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patrickmuf:
Baba no use style run, pick your starting 3 from that list with Rashford as an option...

Rashford Mpappe Greizman.....fluid forward like that of Liverpool

GloryIsaac:
Expert has been knocking Martial since he started posting here.. to the extent that he has to elevate Rashford just to knock Martial again.

Criticism isn’t bad, but going overboard is a different issue.

If Martial was English, their media would have done a great job on him.

Salah, Hazard, Aguero, KBD, Van Dirk, Mane are English players

We all watch games, no need to say what's not there....

Didier Deschamps gave all the forwards chance to prove themselves..... Martial will bone face and play rubbish, you won't see him in games, Lacazete, Demebele and co will do their own....Giroud won't score much goals but will display his hard working mentality and set platform for others to thrive....don't tell me Didier Deschamps loves Target Man.
Giroud does better than the rest.

Rashford is also hard working and will score and assist...

If Martial scores, assists or atleast play well for France when called up, Giroud won't be the top 9..

afrodoc2:
Does Deschamps coach Liverpool? I am telling you that he believes in playing with a target man and does not load his team with too many flair players especially in big games.
Is Matuidi a better winger than Dembele or Coman or even Lemar that he kept benching them before, during, and after the world cup?

It is not even a matter of what is right or wrong, but what that particular coach wants.

JM was benching Salah and KDB for Oscar and co. It is what he wanted based on his tactics. Likely the wrong move but that was his call.

Some players will make you change your believe and style of play.

KDB and Salah were still learning their trade when JM benched them.........

Giroud is a better asset in big games than the current forwards available for France....
Rashford is a bigger game player than Giroud and the rest.

Using a target Man is not even among the top 3 ways to win a football game.....which big club rely on that shit.... Who don't want a flexible forward line like that of Barcelona and Liverpool.

patrickmuf:
Mbappe
Griezmann
Giroud
Dembele
Coman
Martial
Dembele (Lyon)
Thuavin
Lacazette
Nabil Fekir


You don't start with 10 strikers so, if I must pick 3 to start with Rashford as an option, Mbappe and Griezmann are obvious choices for the 3rd option, I'll go with Giroud/Lacazette that's assuming Dembele is out injure or Martial is off form.

You even picked Martial and Dembele

Weldone Sir

afrodoc2:
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Forget matter. 1000% Deschamps will bench Rashford for Giroud, especially in big games. The space for Rashford in that team is on the LW.

It is a tactical thing with Deschamps. Someone that went to call Andre-Pierre Gignac from Mexican league cos he wanted another target man.

If Rashford will start it will be on the LW not in place of Giroud.

You play according to what you have and to the strength of your players.....

That's why Giroud is playing.....so a front 3 of Mpape, Rashford and Griezman can't win big team

Who is a bigger game player btw Rashford and Giroud??

Who is the target Man for Liverpool?....which big team will beat them

patrickmuf:
England have more quality forwards than France? The English press are doing a great job marketing average players, your position on their forwards is the result of their hype game...

Mention 10 France forwards, let's see them

dubylhover:
Griezy doesn't play as the striker at barca and mbappe has icardi who occupies the 2 central defenders

So Icardi plays similar game style to Giroud?

Suarez plays similar game style to Giroud?

Bros, no coach will bench Rashford for Giroud......same way Abraham will start ahead of Giroud

patrickmuf:
It's easy to ask now that Lemar is off form. France have too much quality up front. Rashford won't start for France...

France and England who has more quality forward players??

You just dey fall my hands.....

Lemar is not even first choice at Athletico Madrid......Nketiah is starting ahead of Lacazete...

Unlimited22:
Lol.

Have you seen Mbappe play 9 and how ineffective he is when he has two CBs on him constantly and no space to run into?

Didier Deschamps would rather play Sebastian Haller to accommodate Mbappe on the wing than play Rashford.

Because you served under Deschamps to know what he would have done......

If Rashford can start in England, he will start in France......

So who is the target Man and who is making runs for Griezman and Mpape at club?

Panther7:
More goals than martial with a difference of just 2 goals every season, mind you Rashford makes more appearances than martial with at least 10 more games. Hope you don't have any agenda against martial

2 goals is just?

Who started playing for Man Utd team first?

Who is older?

Martial was benched and stripped of his no 9 jersey by Ibrahimovic and later Lukaku, and Rashford was still playing in that same team.

patrickmuf:
High ball, Lukaku's strength? The same Lukaku we all know? Okay o!

It's not part of his strength?

Left to you Martial is better than Messi.

patrickmuf:
Rashford will make it into a French team where Lemar, Lacazette and Martial are struggling to get into...Man, you've got jokes...

Who the fvck is Lemar, LacaLaca and Martial?
Why don't you say Gignac and Joelinton...

If you think these 3 players are better than Rashford you've got bigger jokes....

Panther7:
They have the same goal but how many goals does rashford have from open play? Baba has scored 6 penalties and martial has none

Is that why Rashford always end the season with more goals and assists than Martial for the past 3-4 seasons??

If Martial is good in taking PK, he will surely play

GloryIsaac:
These are exceptions. Exceptions.

Rashford will not walk into the France National team starting eleven. Eod

Rashford was in the team when we had Ibrahimovic as our top 9 and when Lukaku took over......

Giroud will deny him the chance to play in France line up. I agree

GloryIsaac:
Messi, Aguero.. see the names you dey call because of Rashford argument.. Chai

That boils down to what i have been saying since....... Formations, style of play depends on the players you have.

Imagine a style of football where you want your striker to have 0 goal, 0 assist and 0 shot on goal.....

GloryIsaac:
Stop comparing France and England. They are not the same teams.

There’s a reason one won the World Cup while beating strong teams, and the other was eliminated by the first strong team they faced in the competition.

World cup or no world cup.

So Messi or Aguero won't make France team because Argentina didn't win World cup?....which kind analysis be this abeg.

Coach use Target Man as their plan C or D when the main plan don't work or they don't have the players they want.....that is the reason you will see Fellaini playing like a striker for us, you will see Pique and Ramos playing close to opponent box when Barca or Madrid are looking for goal late in games....

Abraham is benching Giroud, Rashford won't bench Giroud

GloryIsaac:
Lmaoooo.. If Deschamps wanted to play this way, he could have easily used Dembele nah, or even Lemar or Coman.


Dembele - Mbappe - Griezmann

Dembele = Martial

Talent without hardwork or any atom of seriousness that you won't find in big games

If Rashford can be in the first 11 with forwards like

Danny Ings (Saints 1st choice)
Jamie Vardy ( Liecester 1st choice)
Kane (Spurs 1st choice)
Madison ( Liecester 1st choice)
Sterling ( Man City 1st choice)
Sancho ( Dortmund 1st choice)
Abraham ( Chelsea 1st choice)
Grealish ( Villa 1st choice)

Mount, Odoi, Greenwood, etc

Then you need to respect him more.

handelex:
Rashford, Mbappe, Greizman. Mpabbe plays as the target man.

Simple 4-3-3

Matuidi Kante Pogba

Griezman Mpappe Rashford.

Which big club rely on that outdated target Man role?

It's simple that is the most effective way Giroud can play same as Peter Crouch and Andy Caroll.

GloryIsaac:
Cross and Nod.

GloryIsaac:
Did y’all even watch France matches at all?

Not everything has to be argued about abeg.

If Rashford is to get into that team, then he has to bench Griezmann (in a 4-3-3) or Lemar/Payet (in a 4-2-3-1).

Giroud’s role was Target Forward (bring others into play and keep the opposing CBs busy).

You don't expect Benzema or Rashford to be in the team and Deschamps will suscribe to Target Man football by opting for Giroud....

It's simple.....when we had Lukaku we played to his strength (crossing and high ball) now we have Martial we are playing to his strength ( quick exchange of ball),.....

GloryIsaac:
Giroud played the role of a typical Target Man - as a Wall to keep the opposition center halves occupied,to win and spread the aerial balls either side, use his tall frame to hold the ball for a few valuable seconds longer so as to give the wingers time to make a run, create and clear danger during set-plays. Giroud took up the role of a selfless ‘Forward’ whose job is to offer a big-tall presence than to score goals or create direct scoring opportunities. The fact that he didn’t even attempt a shot on goal in all those minutes makes clear the role he was asked to play for the team.

Great analysis...

Just ask yourself this simple question "apart from this playing style you describe above, what other style can Giroud play?"

GloryIsaac:
Not everything has to be argued about.

Can Rashford play as a Target Man?

Must they play that way?

Before Giroud started playing for France, which style of play where they using?

Giroud won't smell line-up with Rashford in the team.

Leyqute:
Free kicks like this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-0qOnfjtoA

There’s more where that came from.

Do you know how many free kicks that guy has wasted? And no, I’m not counting the one that he hit against a fan on a wheelchair.

Why was freekick duty immediately handed to Bruno when he arrived?

Furthermore, we keep seeing him misplacing easy passes on the pitch. Don’t you see it when you watch matches or are you a livescore guy?

It’s not compulsory to quote me, dude.

Dey your dey make I Dey my Dey. Biko.

I can show you CR7 and Messi freekicks also....
When was the last time CR7 scored a freekick?

Close freekicks belongs to Bruno or Mata..

Long distance belongs to Rashford.

You should know this

GloryIsaac:
The French National team manager has a style of play that Giroud fits. That’s why he selects him.

Giroud played all matches at the World Cup as the French starting striker and did not register a shot on target.

If Rashford was French, the manager would have still selected Giroud ahead of him. It’s about style of play, not quality.

Country don't buy players so you make do with what you have......

Benzema can't play for France because of that Sex scandal.....and I don't see any other serious France striker.

Again, don't tell me any coach in this world will pick Giroud over Rashford...mind you statistically Abraham is the first choice for Chelsea this season.

DeadPresidents:
How many of those penalties did he win? I don't see how shooting down a player for scoring penalties he won makes any sense? It's ridiculous at this point.

Misplaces simple passes and "lacks creativity" but still second in chances created since lockdown to only De Bruyne?

I'm seeing a lot of lazy cliche Sky analyst narratives bandied about Rashford just as I see cliché "lazy Arrow" narratives spread about Martial.

Martial fans can be like that

---When you see something like Martial is a better team player than Rashford...you should be laughing and rolling on the floor.

-The same Rashford is better than Martial in making same passes...

Highest Goal Scorer for us in EPL= Rashford ( tied with Martial)

Highest Assist for us in EPL= Rashford ( tied with Bruno)

Highest Goal contribution for us in EPL= Rashford.

Roland17:
Kudos, you are the only one who kind of understands the direction of my argument when I droped those attachments. If we scored more and still finished outside of the top 4 for 3 consecutive seasons, shouldn't that be a pointer as to where we need to improve upon? We are an average team overall, we lack quality in numerous departments and that is buttressed in our results. Consequently, expectiing us to score more than 3 goals a game to assure a W is desperately unachievable!

How many goals are our competitiors (Spurs, Leciester, Wolves, Sheffield, Manchester United and Chelsea) scoring per game and how many are they conceding per game? I said this before that I am worried we have successfully absolved the clowns we parade at the back of their blame and now sholdering it on the midfielders. The midfielders are now to blame for issues with our attack and defense. The fact that you even think our defense is average makes all the case.

"No one ever lost a football game for not conceding

Food for thought

Leyqute:
It’s not slander, it’s the truth. How will a 22 yo find it hard to successfully make a 10 feet pass

He should stop serving rubbish. If you can’t score, at least help in another way. Draw defenders away from the ball. Create chances, etc. Don’t turn into a Willian fcs

.... someone that plays almost all out set-piece don't know how to pass the ball?

Show me a set-piece taker that don't know how to pass the ball.

It's easy to see the guy is not fully fit and I will blame Ole's lack of man management skills.

GloryIsaac:
No.

Yes.

If Rashford can start in a team that has Harry Kane, Raheem Sterling, Jordan Sancho, Madison, Vardy, Ings, Abraham...... He will start in a team with just Mpappe and Griezman only.

Don't tell me Giroud will bench Rashford

Oasis007:
Anyone of them ain't deserves the Spot?

Henderson for Alison.

Vardy or Ings for Martial.

sylvalord:
I have been seeing some Rashford slander flying around here. So I decided to post this to tell you guys that you need to calm down. The boy is only 22.

The same Rashford always gap Martial in goals contribution ( goals + assists ) every season since his debut (4-5 years now)....

Rashford is more matured and you can rely on him in big games.

The same France team that Martial can't enter, Rashford will walk straight into that team...

So funny whenever I see statement like this
" Martial will bench Rashford at LW"..

Martial is in form this season and Rashford is playing rubbish, at the end they have the same goals with Rashford having higher assist ....make una calm down, it's just injury effect