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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:58pm On Jul 24, 2020
Leyqute:


I don’t think so bro.

Players get injured all the time. Pogba was also injured early on in the season and that has negatively impacted our season.
True players get injury all the time but the way and manner also matters, in Rashford's case you'll agree with me that he was being overplayed despite carrying some knocks because he was our main man then. Although part of the blame goes to Ole, but his hands were tied.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 9:59pm On Jul 24, 2020
GloryIsaac:


Giroud played the role of a typical Target Man - as a Wall to keep the opposition center halves occupied,to win and spread the aerial balls either side, use his tall frame to hold the ball for a few valuable seconds longer so as to give the wingers time to make a run, create and clear danger during set-plays. Giroud took up the role of a selfless ‘Forward’ whose job is to offer a big-tall presence than to score goals or create direct scoring opportunities. The fact that he didn’t even attempt a shot on goal in all those minutes makes clear the role he was asked to play for the team.

Great analysis...

Just ask yourself this simple question "apart from this playing style you describe above, what other style can Giroud play?"
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:00pm On Jul 24, 2020
Did y’all even watch France matches at all? undecided

Not everything has to be argued about abeg.

If Rashford is to get into that team, then he has to bench Griezmann (in a 4-3-3) or Lemar/Payet (in a 4-2-3-1).

Giroud’s role was Target Forward (bring others into play and keep the opposing CBs busy).

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:01pm On Jul 24, 2020
Expert17:


Great analysis...

Just ask yourself this simple question "apart from this playing style you describe above, what other style can Giroud play?"




Cross and Nod.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:05pm On Jul 24, 2020
Leyqute:


No agenda jare. I’m just not happy with his performances. I recognize his strengths but baba needs to work on his weaknesses.

Thank God he’s not on freekick duty anymore. He’s played like 25,000 of them and scored just 2 or 3. wink
He's a confidence player and you know how they do, also on his off days he's absolutely horrible to watch. We need a dead ball specialist like Mata in that first team, we waste many free kicks it's so frustrating.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:07pm On Jul 24, 2020
GloryIsaac:


Cross and Nod.

GloryIsaac:
Did y’all even watch France matches at all? undecided

Not everything has to be argued about abeg.

If Rashford is to get into that team, then he has to bench Griezmann (in a 4-3-3) or Lemar/Payet (in a 4-2-3-1).

Giroud’s role was Target Forward (bring others into play and keep the opposing CBs busy).

cool cool

You don't expect Benzema or Rashford to be in the team and Deschamps will suscribe to Target Man football by opting for Giroud....

It's simple.....when we had Lukaku we played to his strength (crossing and high ball) now we have Martial we are playing to his strength ( quick exchange of ball),.....

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:08pm On Jul 24, 2020
GloryIsaac:


Not everything has to be argued about.

Can Rashford play as a Target Man?
Rashford, Mbappe, Greizman. Mpabbe plays as the target man.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:10pm On Jul 24, 2020
DeadPresidents:


Official United article as source.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.manutd.com/en/amp/news/detail/how-marcus-rashford-game-is-evolving-since-lockdown

The source is Statman Dave, not Official United. Man Utd quoted the tweet.

So, if Rashford has created 5 big chances in his last 5 or thereabouts EPL games and 9 overall...do the math.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:11pm On Jul 24, 2020
Expert17:




cool cool

You don't expect Benzema or Rashford to be in the team and Deschamps will suscribe to Target Man football by opting for Giroud....

It's simple.....when we had Lukaku we played to his strength (crossing and high ball) now we have Martial we are playing to his strength ( quick exchange of ball),.....



Toor.. weren’t you the one saying Rashford will walk straight into the France team Martial could not enter?

Or you want to now compare Benzema to Rashford?

E b things o
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:12pm On Jul 24, 2020
handelex:
Rashford, Mbappe, Greizman. Mpabbe plays as the target man.

In France?

Oluwa wetin dey happen grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:13pm On Jul 24, 2020
handelex:
He's a confidence player and you know how they do, also on his off days he's absolutely horrible to watch. We need a dead ball specialist like Mata in that first team, we waste many free kicks it's so frustrating.

I think Bruno is trying sha, a la free kicks. We just need everybody to gel and get goals.

They’ve done an incredible job so far but more is needed. They are still far from competing for the league or UCL.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:14pm On Jul 24, 2020
See, don’t stress it. I know you don’t support Martial and whatnot, but you goofed by saying Rashford will walk into the France starting team.

That’s not true.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:15pm On Jul 24, 2020
handelex:
True players get injury all the time but the way and manner also matters, in Rashford's case you'll agree with me that he was being overplayed despite carrying some knocks because he was our main man then. Although part of the blame goes to Ole, but his hands were tied.

Youre right. One good thing about Rashy is that he is always available for selection. Same as Maguire. Heard Maguire played through injury in January when Ole was under fire. And it benefited the team.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:20pm On Jul 24, 2020
handelex:
Rashford, Mbappe, Greizman. Mpabbe plays as the target man.

Simple 4-3-3

Matuidi Kante Pogba

Griezman Mpappe Rashford.

Which big club rely on that outdated target Man role?

It's simple that is the most effective way Giroud can play same as Peter Crouch and Andy Caroll.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:24pm On Jul 24, 2020
GloryIsaac:


In France?

Oluwa wetin dey happen grin
Like Expert said, why Giroud is playing is cos of Benzema banishment from the team, else Giroud go chop bench tire. But kudos to Deschamps, he made the best out of the situation. I still believe Rashford starts for that French team.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:28pm On Jul 24, 2020
Expert17:


Simple 4-3-3

Matuidi Kante Pogba

Griezman Mpappe Rashford.

Which big club rely on that outdated target Man role?

It's simple that is the most effective way Giroud can play same as Peter Crouch and Andy Caroll.
Exactly, if anything sef, Giroud can come later as an impact sub.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 10:31pm On Jul 24, 2020
If Rashford can be in the first 11 with forwards like

Danny Ings (Saints 1st choice)
Jamie Vardy ( Liecester 1st choice)
Kane (Spurs 1st choice)
Madison ( Liecester 1st choice)
Sterling ( Man City 1st choice)
Sancho ( Dortmund 1st choice)
Abraham ( Chelsea 1st choice)
Grealish ( Villa 1st choice)

Mount, Odoi, Greenwood, etc

Then you need to respect him more.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:31pm On Jul 24, 2020
Leyqute:


Youre right. One good thing about Rashy is that he is always available for selection. Same as Maguire. Heard Maguire played through injury in January when Ole was under fire. And it benefited the team.
Yah, Maguire played through pain killers, much respect to him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:45pm On Jul 24, 2020
Shey you guys saw the update from Skysports that United won't be renewing Sanchez and Smalling loan deals. Skysports are Tier 4 on United subreddit though.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:47pm On Jul 24, 2020
handelex:
Like Expert said, why Giroud is playing is cos of Benzema banishment from the team, else Giroud go chop bench tire. But kudos to Deschamps, he made the best out of the situation. I still believe Rashford starts for that French team.

Can you compare Rashford and Benzema?

Martial even went for Euro2016 (after his impressive first season), but Deschamps still played Giroud ahead of him.

And the when he played, he actually played alongside the same Giroud.. didn’t bench him, he played alongside him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:49pm On Jul 24, 2020
Expert17:


Simple 4-3-3

Matuidi Kante Pogba

Griezman Mpappe Rashford.

Which big club rely on that outdated target Man role?

It's simple that is the most effective way Giroud can play same as Peter Crouch and Andy Caroll.

Lmaoooo.. If Deschamps wanted to play this way, he could have easily used Dembele nah, or even Lemar or Coman.


Dembele - Mbappe - Griezmann

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:52pm On Jul 24, 2020
Expert17:
If Rashford can be in the first 11 with forwards like

Danny Ings (Saints 1st choice)
Jamie Vardy ( Liecester 1st choice)
Kane (Spurs 1st choice)
Madison ( Liecester 1st choice)
Sterling ( Man City 1st choice)
Sancho ( Dortmund 1st choice)
Abraham ( Chelsea 1st choice)
Grealish ( Villa 1st choice)

Mount, Odoi, Greenwood, etc

Then you need to respect him more.



Stop comparing France and England. They are not the same teams.

There’s a reason one won the World Cup while beating strong teams, and the other was eliminated by the first strong team they faced in the competition.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:56pm On Jul 24, 2020
See, Benzema is an exception.

Rashford is not an exception. If Deschamps wanted to center Mbappe, he could have easily put Dembele on the right to cover that position perfectly.

Even when Martial played for France, the attacking three were

Payet - Giroud - Martial, not

Payet - Martial - Griezmann

Players dey ball for France o, don’t let English hype deceive you abeg grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DeadPresidents: 11:05pm On Jul 24, 2020
I like Rashford but I don't think he makes the France national team.

His skillset is easily available and not sufficient enough to justify a systems realignment.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:06pm On Jul 24, 2020
The horror tackle on Mbappe is exactly what Southampton tried to do to Greenwood angry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:07pm On Jul 24, 2020
DeadPresidents:
I like Rashford but I don't think he makes the France national team.

His skillset is easily available and not sufficient enough to justify a systems realignment.

Exactly. Simply put.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 11:13pm On Jul 24, 2020
sylvalord:
You are feeling? Okay Pheels Mr producer! I also feel that with more investment, Ole will dominate the league.
This Ole that rely on two very slow central defenders and midfielders will dominate league? Even if we sign him CR7, Messi and Mbappe, dude will furk it all up with rubbish team selection and tactics..... Anxiously waiting to see who we sign, we need a strong and pacy central defender, a real holding midfielder (Partey) and a strong, tireless and pacy striker too (Wouldn't mind Josh King at this point)..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 11:19pm On Jul 24, 2020
patrickmuf:
Well, I expect them to invest in their defense and possibly their midfield before the close of the window...Signing Ziyech and Werner for less than 100m leaves them in a strong position to sign more players.
This got me thinking if it was United that went for either Ziyech or Werner, we probably would have signed either for more money that Chelsea did. A good example was when we wanted Haaland, see the crazy money being quoted until Dortmund signed him for less that £20m.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 11:35pm On Jul 24, 2020
GloryIsaac:


Lmaoooo.. If Deschamps wanted to play this way, he could have easily used Dembele nah, or even Lemar or Coman.


Dembele - Mbappe - Griezmann

Dembele = Martial

Talent without hardwork or any atom of seriousness that you won't find in big games
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 11:40pm On Jul 24, 2020
GloryIsaac:


Stop comparing France and England. They are not the same teams.

There’s a reason one won the World Cup while beating strong teams, and the other was eliminated by the first strong team they faced in the competition.

World cup or no world cup.

So Messi or Aguero won't make France team because Argentina didn't win World cup?....which kind analysis be this abeg.

Coach use Target Man as their plan C or D when the main plan don't work or they don't have the players they want.....that is the reason you will see Fellaini playing like a striker for us, you will see Pique and Ramos playing close to opponent box when Barca or Madrid are looking for goal late in games....

Abraham is benching Giroud, Rashford won't bench Giroud cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:42pm On Jul 24, 2020
TrebleChamp:
This got me thinking if it was United that went for either Ziyech or Werner, we probably would have signed either for more money that Chelsea did. A good example was when we wanted Haaland, see the crazy money being quoted until Dortmund signed him for less that £20m.

Everyone knows United have huge cash, so hike the price once there’s an interest.

Sancho really needs to be in this team anyway.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:44pm On Jul 24, 2020
Expert17:


World cup or no world cup.

So Messi or Aguero won't make France team because Argentina didn't win World cup?....which kind analysis be this abeg.

Coach use Target Man as their plan C or D when the main plan don't work or they don't have the players they want.....that is the reason you will see Fellaini playing like a striker for us, you will see Pique and Ramos playing close to opponent box when Barca or Madrid are looking for goal late in games....

Abraham is benching Giroud, Rashford won't bench Giroud cheesy cheesy cheesy




Messi, Aguero.. see the names you dey call because of Rashford argument.. Chai grin

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