₦airaland Forum

TAO11:
Lol. Who informed “the whole world” that Igbos casted bronze earlier?

Long story short: No, it is NOT a fact.

Between Igbos and Ifes, who casted bronze earlier?

Igboid:
MNK and IPOB need to do more on the media to prove to us that IPOB and ESN has no hand in UGM.
ESN is beginning to gain total acceptance in Igbo land before this UGM saga. If IPOB and Kanu don't do enough to dispel rumours of UGM being ESN, many people who are passively supportive of ESN in the East will withdraw their support.

We have to tell ourselves the truth, most times when UGM attack police, I see many IPOB associated handles in Facebook rejoicing on individual capacity.
It might just be they are happy that the police men who were unfair to them are being bullied by an Unknown enemy, a case of Schadenfreude. But to neutrals, the line between seeing IPOB members merely rejoicing over UGM activities and UGM being an extension of ESN is already blurred.

UGM is a group formed by Chimezie Biafra.

ESN lives in the bushes and we know their uniform.

Compare the uniform of the 16 UGM boys that were killed in Aba few days ago with those of ESN.

Nothing spectacular about Kaduna.

Arewwa overhyping made me visit the city again and I drove from TV garage to Kawo, I saw nothing impressive.

I drove again the next day from Kawo to Zaria, but nothing again.

ESN has no link with unknown gunmen.

But enemies of IPOB will always try to link them to IPOB.

One stupid Chimezie Biafra has always claimed he formed the group.

He is the leader of Radio Biafra Israel, MNK is the leader of Radio Biafra London which was restructed into IPOB, with RBL becoming their official communication channel

macof:
You worry about how you need the Ooni to teach you your history. Don't you worry how you have no history to tell?
Anyway, that's your business

No history yet the whole world knows that Igbos casted with Bronze 100 years before Ife tried it.

We are always 100 years ahead.

FACT

Sammy07:


No start what you can't finish
I dey warn you.

From
Education
Health
Economic
Companies
Road developments
Influential people
Entertainment
Human development


No ibo state can stand shoulder to shoulder with Ogun state in the above statistics.

Well, maybe Housing
If you disagree you can start it

I am glad you admitted we TRUMP you guys in housing.

Simple economics - housing is directly proportional to development.

So, there is way Ogun will be more developed than a state that has a more better individually provided housing facilities.

FACT.

Yemi can continue deceiving your guys but realities don't lie.

EDUCATION

It is useless to have all the universities but can't educate your populace. Anambra performs better than Ogun education-wise.

You can have the number of universities while we have the education.

HEALTH
I can't say anything here because I don't have any data.

ECONOMICS
70 percent of Nigerian imports terminate in Anambra.

Anambra is more fiscally responsible than Ogun.

Anambra has a better Gini Coefficient, meaning riches is spread in Anambra than Ogun. Wealth in Ogun is held in few hands.

Anambra has lower debt burden than Ogun signfying more capacity to internally source and generate it funds.

Anambra has the biggest market in WA.

Anambra is solvent while Ogun is not.

Ogun has more vulnerable households than Anambra.

Anambra has a better standard of living than Ogun e.g in housing.

Anambra is home to the city with the largest number of billionaires per capita.

ROAD DEVELOPMENT
Ogun has better federal roads than Anambra.

COMPANIES
Onitsha main market alone employs more than all the companies in Ogun combined.

Anambra has far more self employed people than Ogun.

INFLUNENTIAL PEOPLE
Even you know this is a lie.

ENTERTAINMENT
Nollywood is the biggest player in Nigeria entertainment sector.

Anambra has more notable musicians than Ogun.

Anambra has contributed more players to Super Eagles the largest sports brand in Nigeria than Ogun.

Movies, sports and music, Anambra trumps Ogun.

HUMAN DEVELOPMENT
Anambra leads here.

You will only argue this if you don't understand what HD means.

OGUN is only better than Anambra on Yemi Kwale Statistics.

FACT.

Sammy07:
No state in the yeast is as developed as Ogun state.
Or has achievements as Ogun state
Or has important / Influential people as Ogun state

No lemme start with you

Yet Anambra has the largest number of billionaires per capita.

Yet no city in the entire Ogun stands a chance against Aba and Onitsha in term of personal real estate development.

Yet Ogun dominates the social register of most vulnerable households.

Just name one city that is more developed than Aba and get N5k.

Sammy07:

Oga, companies in shagamu alone will swallow those of Anambra and abia together.
Don't be ment bro.

According to what Yemi Kwale told you nah abi. Yet they have more vulnerable households in the social register than Anambra

Anambra alone has three indigenous airline and 70% of imported consignments target at Onitsha.

Go figure dude.

FrLukas:
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I know you aren't Igbo anyway, you must be one of those aboki children stolen from the North and trafficked to Anambra because I know a real Igbo won't be spewing sewer stuff from the recesses of his mind, capable of endangering his kith and kin in another man's land.

Feel free to stop quoting me now. I've already lost some brain cells trying to understand the degree of your ailment.

I am not Igbo but yoruba.

You yorubas need help

macof:
Doesn't it feel sort of embarrassing to desperately look for yourself in other people's history?
First with Jews, now with Yorubas

Do you know more than your Ooni?

Sammy07:


Name any of your state that is doing better than Ogun state.

Let's remove Lagos state.

Anambra is far ahead of Ogun in all indices

Abia is far ahead of Ogun in FDI, human capital, and Commerce. Aba is more developed than all the cities in Ogun.

Imo is far ahead of Ogun in literacy rate.

Ebonyi is far ahead of Ogun is rice production.

It's an insult to compare Ogun with Enugu in terms of beauty, development and serenity. I won't do that.

Ogun is only great on Yemi kwale Bureau of Statistics datasheet and in taxing their improvised citizens in the name of IGR.

bobowaja:
Season of denying ones heritage. Ipob are not always proud of where they came from cos it is worst than a slum.

I have N5k to spare and if you don't need the money, you could use it to subscribe to Airtel 20GB bundle for N3000 and give out the remaining N2000 to an indigent family celebrating Easter,

Just name ONE non-capital city in the entire SW except Lagos that is more developed than Aba.

If you could name any that is more developed than Onitsha, then I'll give out another N10,000.

Every time LAGOS, LAGOS as if na their papa get am. If you guys spend half of the energy dragging for Illorin, by now it should have been unconquered from the Fulanis.

But no, they won't. They are looking for an already made city while their true cities are decaying on daily basis.

Cc:
Monogamy
Simplyleo
bobowaja
SuperBold
Sammy07

Obamaofusa:
He who owns the land,sells the land.
But na Yorubas only dey sell land in Lagos. Why sir?

Fulanis are allocating and renaming lands in Jos and Ogun, do they own them?

Barryseal:
Does ile ife have a Yoruba meaning? It actually does have a perfect meaning in Igbo. That should be a pointer that an Igbo man actually named that town. This information is hidden in plain sight.

Seunmsg

Resurrection212:
I have been wondering how you guys claiming to know everything headed up of mocking yourself. The likes you got here just show that average of igbo people are stark illiterate.

In the 18th and 19th century, the standard rule was to say ‘an historian’, but over the course of the 20th century, American English has tended to shift away from that and say ‘a historian’. But British English still tends to say ‘an historian’. Even despite that Nigeria are using British version .I grew up watching a lot of British television shows and apparently this somehow crept into my English, because ‘an historian’ simply feels natural to me and ‘a historian’ feels clumsy. Every time I try to say it the American way, it just feels ugly and wrong.

Werey dey disguise

FrLukas:
I understand your obsession with everything Yoruba.


It's just like the black man's obsession with everything American.


The tendency to always try to piggyback on your betters is overwhelming in your case.


If ever the Ooni mentioned something like this, then here is who he was referring to:



The Ugbo people that now currently inhabit a part of Ondo state close to the riverine area.


They were a part of Ile-Ife and their father was the chief consort for Oduduwa, Oranfe the man who brought out fire from his mouth.

Till today, his house is called Oranfe, onile ina (House of Fire)


The first born of that chief consort behaved badly and sought to inherit his father while he was still alive but on a journey with Oduduwa. The son had thought his father would die on the journey but his father came back and banished him forever.


He left Side and began to inhabit the surrounding forest close to Ife. That's why they are called Ugbo or Igbo people. Note that Igbo in Yoruba means bush or forest. So in other words, they were the bush people.


The man became their first king, i.e the Olugbo of Igbo/Ugbo kingdom which kingdom still exists somewhere in Ondo state today.


It was these same Ugbo/Igbo people who used to carry out raids on Ife people, whom Queen Moremi defeated and wrote her name in gold forever.


Sorry to disappoint you expansionist land grabbers and land thieves, the Igbo or Ugbo mentioned in connection with Ife is not the Biafrans of today.

I rather believe your Ooni than you. In the fullness of time, we will come for our land.

Bad news for Fulani terrorists

And this is the Akure they are comparing with Aba.
Yoruba cities are just too ugly.

Kayberg:
Bros… I have no idea, but she is really good about these stuffs. I smell royalty about her/him. I really do smell royalty.

Ok

seunmsg:
Yeah, same way Igbos own 90% of Lagos.

Lagos is not Yorubaland. That one na confirmed fact

seunmsg:
Ife was never Igboland. The ethnic group currently known as Igbo migrated from Ile Ife so many years ago just like other groups.

Go and tell that to your Ooni, Prof Obayemi and our history.

Ife is Igboland.

Blacklion3:
So you don't know he is silently subbing the igbos?
How come a tribe with no history will now be a Percussor of a tribe that is able to trace it's history to Sudan

Is that what Yoruba media tells you?

Blacklion3:
Tell them what they want to hear.... (Even if it's not the truth)

Ife is Igboland - History

seunmsg:
Obatala was the head of the 13 clans that made up Ile Ife before the arrival of Oduduwa. He was defeated and driven to Ugbo. Ugbo is still in existence till today in Ondo state. Ugbo has nothing to do with Igbo.

Obatala is Nri Priest and Igbo King in Ife before Oduduwa the usurper came.

Ife means light in Igbo

Blacklion3:
So you don't know he is silently subbing the igbis

Ife is Igboland - Ooni

Resurrection212:
You can't deny me my igbo heritage. Come to owerri junction let us have this discussion there.

Nothing like Owerri junction, Adewale.

From Orlu, to Mbaise and now Owerri Junction.

Is God not wonderful?

Resurrection212:
you are right I'm an historian and I know what you're saying. Ugbo have been in existence before arrival of oduduwa. But oduduwa chase ugbo out of ile ife ,after the death of oduduwa ugbo people almost conquered ife but moremi safe them But oluorogbo her only child was used as a sacrifice.

But because of supremacy of power ife will not accep this

Only Yorubas say an historian.

It's actually a historian. Yorubas find it difficult pronouncing letter H.

seunmsg:
You have only confirmed Yorubas historical account that Ile Ife is the source of mankind and centre of creation. You have also confirmed the historical account that Igbos and indeed lots of other tribes migrated from Ile Ife to their present settlement.

Prof. Banji Akintoye has previously argued that the Yoruba and Igbo languages are variation of a proto-language spoken at Ile Ife so many years. With the position of the OP, I think the prof is right.

We are not arguing that. What we are just letting you guys know is that Ife is abroginal Igbo land and the Obatala you people worship is an Igbo man.

Be grateful to your ancestors - ndi Igbo

hotwax:
Ife aboriginals were Ugbo, not Igbo.

Its like saying Sunday Igboho is Igbo because it has 'Igbo' in its pronunciation.

Thats what you get when you crown yahoo boys.

Oba Iwo already claimed Iwo is a fulani land..

Next Osogbo belongs to Ijaws

And we have Onugbo of Ugbo.. The king even claimed they are the real Yorubas. He claimed Yorubas already existed before Oduduwa came. Oduduwa met Yoruba culture.

No ooni yahoo king is claiming Ugbo people are Igbo...what the hell

What about Prof Ade Obayemi whose research also found that Ife is Igboland?

Kayberg:
TAO11 please come in here.
Your attention is needed.

Is she the Ooni PA?

So, Yorubas, learn to respect your host

illicit:
Ok now....

Always respect your host or will pursue your people back to Ogbomosho