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odumchi:
Nwannem, I still dey.

I threw my support behind you o!

[b]MASSOB [/b]take note!

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We are ready for them in the East. Let them try that in Anambra or Abia.

https://www.stephanfaris.com/Nigeria/graphics/Bakassi_Boy.JPG

Dem OPC boys are not playing!

Up OPC!  

Nice show of force.

Na wa o! On the other thread I was in the running, but now I am not.

PointB, come hia now! 

What happened to all my support? Did it evaporate?

The Aro delegation is not happy o!

Aigbofa:
Cry baby, you have the right to mourn and I have the right to my opinions, you may not like them. But that is the way it is.

You have not added anything of substance to thread instead of insults. Is that what you call an opinion? Change your ways and grow up.

Musiwa I have grown to respect you. Even though we have disagreed to where the oil is located, you have my deepest respect for your objective opinions.

Moderators - Can you please clean up this thread and warn Aigbofa not provoke a people who are in mourning. Thank you.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-817124.0.html

Onlytruth why are you arguing with a fool? 

The unbiased article is for all to see. The rantings of a madman who has no credibility should not make you lose sleep. History is already looking favorably at Ojukwu and his actions. He is being vindicated daily as we speak.

The Economist and The Times has made favorable references to Ojukwu and have stated that he has been vindicated. No need to fret.

Aigbofa history is looking very favorably at Ojukwu. Look at this excerpt from The Economist. A reputable unbiased source for information.

[b]Secession was surely not what Colonel Ojukwu had in mind when he became governor of the East. Just five months before Biafra broke away he was arguing for a looser federation, and he got the promise of it, even though his fellow military governors soon backtracked, realising they had been outwitted. [/b]The colonel was clever and more educated than his counterparts, which may have been why he would not defer to his antagonist, Lieut-Colonel Yakubu Gowon, the federal supreme commander; or perhaps he was just proud and obstinate, as his critics had it.

Of course, the general, as he soon made himself, had a difficult part to play. He wanted to show that Biafra was a serious country, self-reliant, efficient, able to take its place as the “first nation-state south of the Sahara”. He also had to present it as a victim, a plucky little population of about 13m, reluctantly taking on a bully with nearly three times as many people and all the resources of an established state. He had to be both bulldog and underdog.

Soft of voice and sad of eye, he played the part brilliantly. Pausing before he answered questions, drawing on a State Express 555 cigarette and talking in tones of measured reasonableness, he came across as the thinking man’s soldier. Despite his youth, his bulk lent authority, his beard, grown as a symbol of mourning for the massacred Ibos, lent gravitas. Yet he could also be arrogant and authoritarian, ready to adopt the very practices he affected to disdain—by, for instance, appointing his father to chair two regional corporations.


http://www.economist.com/node/21540986

Even though Ojukwu is remembered for Biafra, I believe his lasting impact is Igbo unity. He united us with firm will and determination. This is much deeper than what he did during the pogroms, during the civil war and after it. It a higher way of assessing his impact on the Igbo people.

lagcity:
Honestly, I understand the love Igbos have for Ojukwu. Ojukwu is the real Igbo leader, not Zik.

This is something we can agree on. Thank you for that candid response.

Aigbofa:
LOL Idiotic ehn?

I'm patiently waiting for the seven days compulsory wailing for the dear leader.

People mourn the death of their leaders. Is it that hard to comprehend? Benazhir Bhutto was mourned in Pakistan, when she was assassinated. Americans mourned the death of Ronald Reagan. The list is endless. Please stop arguing for the sake of arguing. It is getting very OLD.

Aigbofa:
What is the basis of this love? That millions died just to make a point?

History is looking favorably on Ojukwu. As the obituaries from The Economist and Times Magazine are doing. Looking at the war from an objective lens instead of the biased lens that most Nigerians look at it. Including Igbos such as myself and groups that fought for the Nigerian side.

The title of my thread should be the answer that you are looking for why Igbos love Ojukwu.

Aigbofa:
Of course I do, not the way I love my Dad though.

I love Ojukwu as the father of a united Igbo people. Are there different degrees of love?

Aigbofa:
Calling someone papa in Yorubaland is a sign of respect. It does not translate to loving them as you love your own father.
Papa Awo
Papa Ajasin
Papa Adesanya and so on, and we respect them all.

Do you not love Awolowo? Do you not give the greatest amount of respect and admiration. Do you all not defend him like your life depended on it? I am just trying to tell you to stop being so hypocritical. Igbos love Ojukwu, similar to how Black Americans love the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr.

Sagamite:
It is their silly platitudes you vomit time after time, so it is obvious they are the influencing source of your values. One thing any average Joe can spot is you have no original thinking.

So answer the question: how come polygamy is banned in the West despite it being clearly protected under the articles of the UNHCR list as a "fundamental human right" you are referring to?

You pose a great question like always my friend. I have tried to wrestle with that question. The polygamy laws in the West are based in morality. Our law concerning same-sex marriage is based on morality. They should lift their ban on polygamy before trying to dictate to us about our laws.

Aigbofa I see that you have conveniently ignored my post.

Do the Yoruba not have Awolowo? Is he not considered your Baba? Please refrain from your hypocrisy, and let the Ndigbo refer to Ojukwu anyway we want. I do not understand why some people have a hard time doing that. Worrying about other people's leaders. It is not normal.

buzugee:
yes you are trying to say that you are a fisherman by profession

Well the good Lord told us to follow him and be fishers of men.

Aigbofa:
^^^^^^

You guys are sounding more and more like North Koreans!! Scary!

How so?

Every people/nation have a leader they consider the father of their nation. The U.S. has George Washington, China has Mao Zedong, India has Ghandi, France has Charles de Gaulle, the list is endless.

Ojukwu was a symbol of Igbo unity. No one can deny that. He led a fractious group that became a more cohesive group.

buzugee:
Oh but my brother you are fishing in shallow pool. The whole black world is my people and i have love and adulation for all my black brothers like malcolm x, nat turner, toussaint louverture, lumumba, mandela, steve biko, All these are my people. i am fishing in deep sea

The shallow pool is what is close to my house. There is a prized fish that can be found in this shallow pool, which can nourish the village. However, we keep that fish since it is our most prized possession. When I am in need of a great quantity of fish, I go to the majestic river that is farther away, to feed my village. Do you understand what I am trying to say?

Nigerians from other groups, wonder why Igbos love the great Ikemba, and the answer is simple. He was truly the symbol of Igbo unity. Everything he represented was a manifestation of what Igbo unity entails. Through Iron will, this man forged the destiny of the Igbo people. Before Ojukwu and Biafra, the Ndigbo seen ourselves as a people of various clans. However, during and after the war, the Ndigbo had a type of unity that was never seen in our entire history. Instead of seeing ourselves as Aro, Ngwa, Mbaise, Nri etc, we seen ourselves as simply as IGBO.

Ojukwu is the manifestation of Igbo unity. That is why he will always remembered. It goes more deeper than simply him being the leader of Biafra. The Igbo unity that he helped produce will be his lasting impact for generations to come.

One Igboland, One Igbo people, for the greater glory of Ojukwu and his children. The father of our people has died, but he will be remembered for generations to come. I love you Ojukwu as a son should love a father.

He provided unity for the Igbo people, which was never seen before. That is one reason why he will always be remembered.

buzugee:
you guys have an adulation for the 'what could have been'
you have adulation for an illusion
this is all you have an adulation for.

If that is your "objective" opinion, so be it. The Igbos will continue to adore the man and nothing can take that away from him. You would never understand that, because you are not Igbo. To be loved by ones people is the highest gift anyone can be received and he will always be remembered by his people. A perfect tribute to his greatness. Ojukwu the Great. The leader of a united Igbo.

Onlytruth:
Ojukwu never committed any of these, rather he "committed" SELF DETERMINATION which is legal in international law.

Let me provide information for that ignorant child Buzugee who doesn't understand that self-determination is found in Article 1 of the Charter of the United Nations for all to see.

Article 1

The Purposes of the United Nations are:

1. To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace, and to bring about by peaceful means, and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, adjustment or settlement of international disputes or situations which might lead to a breach of the peace;

2. To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;

3. To achieve international co-operation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character, and in promoting and encouraging respect for human rights and for fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race, sex, language, or religion; and

4. To be a centre for harmonizing the actions of nations in the attainment of these common ends.

I really love the title for this article from Time Magazine.

The Gentleman Rebel

I am glad foreigners are able to speak the truth, while many Nigerians are afraid to hear the truth. History is looking favorably on the Ikemba as we speak. He will always have the love and admiration of his people. God bless Ojukwu and God bless Biafra!

I do not support Same-sex marriage, but did the Senate really need to focus on it, while there are other problems plaguing the country such as Boko Haram and no constant electricity? What the Senate should do is declare the North a State of Emergency, which they should have done a year ago. Topics such as this can wait till Nigeria fixes more pressing matters.

Like I said Buzugee, your statement are not being seen as objective. Maybe you should learn the definition of objective before using a term that does not describe you. I have noticed that problem with Nigerians. They have a hard time understanding the definitions of words. Therefore, I am going to give you the definition should I can provide light to your ignorance.

Objective Opinion - Dictionary

1. not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased: an objective opinion.

Now Buzugee, reread your statements and see if they appear to be objective. Compare it with the various articles that have been written about Ojukwu by foreign reporters and experts. A Nigerian will always have BIASED opinion about Ojukwu. A person who has no relation to Nigeria, can look through a more objective lens.

While we are at it, let me provide you with some more definitions that you have a hard time comprehending.

Self-Determination -

1. Determination of one's own fate or course of action without compulsion; free will.
2. Freedom of the people of a given area to determine their own political status; independence.

The fool is telling me that I am too emotional. Of course I would be emotional you dunce buzugee. My father was a proud soldier in the Biafran military. I lost many family members in that war. What do you think I am suppose to feel? Not emotional? We are talking about a Civil War, which left over a million people dead.

I am tired of arguing with an . Read book and learn something buzugee, before you try to argue with me.

Referring to the Civil War as just an "Ego fight" does a great injustice to those who were impacted by it, including my own family.

The Civil War was a reaction to the secession of the former Eastern region, because people of Eastern extraction (I say Eastern extraction, because not only Igbos) were impacted, by the pogroms that were occurring in the country.

nanidee:
@ Eze Uche, don't be too harsh. . . Lol. He just  doesn't understand the story well enough.

If he doesn't understand the history, he should stop typing. Only a fool would talk about something he knows nothing about. It is like me telling a farmer how to plant his grain, even though I do not have a background in farming. I have sense not do that.

Kizilala:
Ojukwu's hand in events that helped create a perception of Africa as a place of endless suffering is a mixed legacy. Although the image is humiliating, and increasingly inaccurate, it was that same image that gave birth to the idea of international humanitarian intervention. Inside Nigeria, Ojukwu's legacy is viewed more positively. The Biafra war cast a mold for much of Nigeria's subsequent internal strife. The dynamic of north-south rivalry and authoritarian state vs. secessionist rebel persists to this day in the conflicts between the government and rebels in the Delta and Muslim militants in the northeast. By the stance he took, Ojukwu personified the understanding that Nigeria is often a nation often divided, sometimes violently, by genuine grievance. That insight led President Goodluck Jonathan to pay him an unusually nuanced tribute. Ojukwu's "immense love of his people, justice, equity and fairness," said Jonathan, "forced him into the leading role he played in the Nigerian civil war." For many Nigerians, and certainly for the Igbos, Ojukwu will be cherished as someone who refused to compromise on freedom to an overbearing state. "He will be remembered for many things, top of which is freedom and emancipation of our people," said chief Ralph Uwazurike of the Movement for the Actualization of the Sovereign State of Biafra. "The Igbo can never forget him for that."

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2101162,00.html

This is what Ojukwu represents. He is the man that shown the world that Nigeria is not a united nation. And each day, he is being proved right.

History looks favorably on those who speak the truth, even though they may not be taken seriously in their present time.