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PoliticsRe: Ijaw Youths Invade Ondo Village, Kill Five by EzeUche2(m): 4:30am On Feb 20, 2011
TewMuch:
ok we predict 50 busloads of Ekene Dili Chukwu busses running for safety to Lagos. That is the Igbe metro rail. People that could not stay home to stop kidnapping will stay to fight Fulani? I dey laugh at original warrior.
Why fight in another man's land? At least we are not running from people on our home turf. Just imagine a minority kidnapping an Oba and causing the people of neighboring villages to flee. I never heard of such.

The Ijaws are coming! The Ijaws are coming! The Ijaws are coming! I can just imagine the chant.
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PoliticsRe: Ijaw Youths Invade Ondo Village, Kill Five by EzeUche2(m): 4:28am On Feb 20, 2011
TewMuch:
Fulani are very ruthless oh, Yoruba have been fighting them for centuries, what will Igbo do? ewo, na wa ooh. Odikwa getting serious. we dey laugh.
They try that mess in the East, we will use their heads for palm wine storage. Yoruba have been fighting them for centuries, and would have been part of the Sokoto Caliphate if it wasn't for the British stopping them from pushing their way to the sea.

Igbos have fought everyone if you haven't forgotten. Egyptian pilots, Hausa, Yoruba, Middle Belt, Ijaw soldiers. Sorry, but we are not afraid of anyone.
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Youths Invade Ondo Village, Kill Five by EzeUche2(m): 4:25am On Feb 20, 2011
Ileke-IdI:
No, we prefer not to act like this is a proclamation of war, then start beating our chest for an unprepared war.

This needs diplomatic solution. If every Ondo person decides to carry their weapons against these militants, be rest assured that it will not stop with only Ondo and Ijaw people.

When you blood suckers decides to start using your brain, you'll stop losing your people to unnecessary "war".
Why so much anger against the Igbos in this thread? If I was a new poster to Nairaland, I would have thought the Igbos have committed this travesty against the Yorubas instead of the Ijaws, by the way you are acting.  grin

You all can use your diplomatic solution, but let us see how well that works. They will probably sending emissaries to demand money from OPC now.   grin

Now you are likening us Igbos to blood suckers? Now that is cute, because we are not parasitic. We do not rely on oil.
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Youths Invade Ondo Village, Kill Five by EzeUche2(m): 4:21am On Feb 20, 2011
TewMuch:
Fulani with bullet proof vest's, massive horse's and AK47's are 2 hours away and coming to a town near Enugu, what do u want to fight them with? Akpu or yam stalkshuh
We are waiting for them then. I am pretty sure that the Igbo communities in Benue State will warn their brethren in the core Igboland states about the oncoming menace. But are your people ready? Fulani pressing down from the North and Ijaws pressing forward from the East.

That is a two-pronged attacked!
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PoliticsRe: Ijaw Youths Invade Ondo Village, Kill Five by EzeUche2(m): 4:19am On Feb 20, 2011
Ileke-IdI:
And killing their son lead them to continue to Benue? LOL Your friends are coming for you  grin grin grin

If they took the king for ransom, then we can say they must have an Igbo man amongst them grin grin

The same ndu_chucks that constantly insult the Igbos too. . . . my my, you're very ediotic. What do you expect, a Noutherner sympathizing with a Southerner? A northener that may as well dislike any southern? abeg, nothing was lost.
Ndu_chuks should not take our kindness for weakness. Since I am pretty sure he was raised in Igboland, because he speaks Igbo, he should understand by now, how we Igbos are able to slaughter many of his people in our region, when pushed by conflicts in the North.

However, you didn't say anything when this same ndu_chuks was laughing at Yoruba people being slaughtered by Fulani in Yorubaland. Where were you then? Misplaced anger my dear?
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Youths Invade Ondo Village, Kill Five by EzeUche2(m): 4:16am On Feb 20, 2011
Some of these Yorubas posters are acting like everything is ok. I guess they haven't really dealt with the Ijaws like the people of the East have. They met a roadblock in the East, so they cannot expand, so now they look West. These people already dealt with the Itsekiri, now they are pressing the Ilaje. These Egbesu boys are something else. Warlike people, but Becomrichn really wants to include them in the new Benin Republic. You did not hear any Igbos complaining about that.  grin
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Youths Invade Ondo Village, Kill Five by EzeUche2(m): 4:11am On Feb 20, 2011
TewMuch:
You would think they would be more concerned about the fulani's in Benue. Afterall Benue is less than 2hrs by road from Enugu. They are here shouting about Ijaw when armed fulani men are advancing towards enugu ready to violation, and kill. See mumu's. They won't mind their business and watch their backyard. They are busy shaking to Fulani massacre's. It should be interesting to watcj them fight the Fulani. It is inevitable.lool.
Fulani dare not start that nonsense in the East. They put their people in jeapordy, in cities like Aba, Onitsha and Awka, where they were massacred. Fulani are terrorizing the Middle Belt and parts of the South-West, not the East. We do not fear anyone. And we would definitely not run on our home turf.
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Youths Invade Ondo Village, Kill Five by EzeUche2(m): 4:08am On Feb 20, 2011
Ileke-IdI:
Why dont you wait and let them encroach on our property again? Why are the Militants with arm equipment attacking a small area where people are unarmed? Why didnt they attack Lagos and Ondo capital?

Its very foolish of you Igbo ediots to expect unarmed ppl to go flying str8 into armed militants. You ppl do not think logically, yet you walk around with war-like mindset. I guess the 1960s was not a lesson enough.

Once again, no Yoruba here is worried about the king as much as you ppl. If ppl do not like their ruler, they will not fight for him/her.  cool
The article already told you why the Ijaw youth attacked that small area. It is, because one of their own was killed in that town. That is why the son of the deceased and his friends attacked the town. It is as simple as that. I do not know why they kidnapped the Oba though, but they probably believe they can make money from ransom.

Are you telling me that no one in that town was armed?  huh That is not very smart, especially in Nigeria. At least one person should have arms to protect the lives of their kinsmen as well as property.

It is not only we Igbos have said that. A Hausa by the name of Ndu_Chuks was laughing at you all. And you all said nothing. Even Eku you fellow Yoruba wondered why the people of the town ran. And not only in that town, but neighboring villages.

It is not about the Oba, it is about the principle. No group should kidnap another group's leader. Don't you see the mockery of it? Or are you trying to save face?
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Youths Invade Ondo Village, Kill Five by EzeUche2(m): 4:02am On Feb 20, 2011
Ileke-IdI:
The same Igbos the Ijaws have dealt with?
Tell us when this happen, because I have never heard this before. Or are you talking out of that donkey butt of yours? I have not heard of anything concerning an Ijaw vs. Igbo conflict. Give us a source, so that we may all see this occurrence.  

Like I said, leave the Igbos out of this. Your own Odua Nation has been invaded by Fulani and now Ijaws. Let us not forget that there are large numbers of Igbos in Lagos.

You must really hate the Igbos now, that you had to insert us into this conflict. Do you think we Igbos are making the Ijaws attack the Yorubas? Do you think we are using them as a proxy against the Yorubas? All these conspiracy theories. Go and save your Oba. Maybe if talk to the Ijaws nicely, they may listen to you.
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PoliticsRe: Ijaw Youths Invade Ondo Village, Kill Five by EzeUche2(m): 3:46am On Feb 20, 2011
TewMuch:
i wonder why you are answering these cowards. They are trying to blow it up so they can knock Yoruba and Ijaw heads together. You know they are still in pain about Biafra and dont have the balls to fight Ijaw even in rivers state, where their cowardly fellow kins men deny them to suck Ijaw balls. They are pushing hard to hope someone can do the dirty work for them. Ijaw have shown them fire before. Just ignore that chyz rat.His threads these days are bordering on psychotic.
I guess you haven't been to Rivers State, to utter such words. I am from Port Harcourt and I can tell you that Amaechi (Igbo governor) has made sure the Ijaws know who are the real rulers of Rivers State. That is why you do not hear about much conflict between the Ijaws and the Igbos. They are even asking for our help to deal with the JTF, but most of their calls for help have gone unanswered. Now do not discuss something you don't know.

Ijaws have met fierce resistance from both the Igbo and Ibibios about encroachment into our land. They know not to bother with the equally warlike ethnic groups in the East, that is why they always fear Igbo domination. You look at any Ijaw forum, and the boogey man is Igbos flooding their region and dominating them.
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Youths Invade Ondo Village, Kill Five by EzeUche2(m): 3:44am On Feb 20, 2011
[b]Ileke-Idi [/b]is trying very hard to make this a majority vs. majority fight instead of a majority vs. minority fight.

Look at how she is trying to insert the Igbo into this conversation. Maybe we should reiterate to her that this is not between Igbos and Yorubas. This is between Ijaws and Yorubas. I know people associate the Ijaws with Igbos, but they are not Igbos.

The question that need to ask themselves, is what will the Odua Nation do about this insult? This is definitely an insult, because you do not allow your king to be kidnapped. I don't care how you feel about kingship, but they went into a Yoruba town, killed 5 people and captured a king? What do you think is going to happen next time, when they encroach into Yorubaland again, because this will not be the last time.
PoliticsRe: Militant Herdsmen Invade Benue State by EzeUche2(m): 3:17am On Feb 20, 2011
I sense sinister things happening in Nigeria that are out of our control.

All we can do is just watch how things settle.
PoliticsRe: Gaddafi Flies In Black Africans To Quell Protests As Libya Descends Into Anarchy by EzeUche2(m): 3:15am On Feb 20, 2011
Source please. . .In the Politics forum, we like to see sources and we do not need to Google it ROSSIKE. You should know this by now. And we do not like to see mere assertions.
BusinessRe: IMF Proposes Devaluation Of Naira by EzeUche2(m): 3:10am On Feb 20, 2011
cap28:
Am actually amazed that many posters are not dismissing these proposals as just another conspiracy theory as they have done in the past whenever i have raised the dangers posed by the IMF to nigeria's economy.
When I say it, it is much more believable. A person who is always saying the sky is falling, will be seen as the village fool. However, when a person with a lot of titles says it, then this is much believable. I hope that helps you understand how Nairaland works. Some of the things you raise are conspiracy theories. However, there are many instances, that can be seen by Africans in how the IMF have destroyed our economies.
BusinessRe: IMF Proposes Devaluation Of Naira by EzeUche2(m): 9:57pm On Feb 19, 2011
manny4life:
Ok Ms. Kobo, you win.

Doesn't seem like you geeting my explanation maybe because I'm not explaining enough or explained very well, well
Arguing with Kobojunkie can make anyone go insane. She has that way, that can piss anyone off. You are not the first and you definitely will not be the last to argue with her and give up. That is the way she operates. Most of the time I argue with her, it is never a pleasant experience. I leave with a migraine headaches.

Her circular arguments are always confusing, that she even forgets why she is arguing.
PoliticsRe: Militant Herdsmen Invade Benue State by EzeUche2(m): 9:19pm On Feb 19, 2011
olabukola:
When did this happen?
I looked at the date of the article, it says Friday, February 18, 2011.

That means this happened recently. This is getting very serious. So much destruction. This is unbelievable. It is like these people are waging war against fellow Nigerians.
PoliticsRe: Mazi Alvan Azinwa Ikoku by EzeUche2(op): 9:14pm On Feb 19, 2011
A proud native son of Arochukwu whose impact on Nigeria is worthy enough to be praised. I salute this man for all of his accomplishments on behalf of Nigeria.
BusinessRe: IMF Proposes Devaluation Of Naira by EzeUche2(m): 9:11pm On Feb 19, 2011
10cirenoh:
IMF = Rich Western Elite.
Gbam!

And some Africans think these organizations are our saviors. It is disgusting to say the least.

Africa will not progress until we nationalize these foreign organization operating within our borders and then selling it to ourselves, so we can develop them ourselves.

We must also do the opposite of what the IMF tells us to do. They tell us to devalue our currency, we do the opposite. They tell us to stop providing subsidies to our farmers, we do the opposite. They tell us to open our economies for trade, we will protect our economy, by protecting industries.
PoliticsMazi Alvan Azinwa Ikoku by EzeUche2(op): 9:06pm On Feb 19, 2011
Alvan Azinwa Ikoku


Alvan Ikoku easily ranks among the most outstanding educationists Nigeria has ever produced. He was born on August 1, 1900 in the small town of Amanaguwu in Arochukwu Abia State. He came from a wealthy merchant family and received good education.

Ikoku was educated at Government School and Hope Waddell College all in Calabar. In 1920, he got his first teaching appointment with the Presbyterian Church of Scotland at Itigidi and two years later became a senior tutor at St. Paul’s Teachers’ Training College, Awka, Anambra State. It was while at Awka that Ikoku earned the University of London degree in philosophy in 1928 through private correspondence.

Ikoku established his own, the Aggrey Memorial College, Arochukwu in 1931. He named the institution after James E.K. Aggrey, the eminent Ghanaian educationist.

Following the constitutional changes in 1946 which allowed for more Nigerians in the legislative chambers, Ikoku was nominated to Eastern Nigeria House of Assembly. He was assigned to the ministry of education. In 1947 he went to the Legislative council in Lagos as one of the three representatives of the Eastern Region.

In government, Ikoku exerted his influence to foster the interest of the NUT and promote education. He was instrumental to the legislative council’s acceptance of 44 of NUT’s proposals for amendments to various educational ordinances.

Ikoku worked for the introduction of uniform education in Nigeria through the NUT. The union made recommendations for the uniformity of education in Nigeria but the colonial government rejected them. Ikoku and his union were vindicated after independence when the recommendations became the foundation of official policy on education.

Ikoku served on various educational bodies in the country. He was a member of WAEC and the council of the University of Ibadan as well as chairman, board of governors of the Aviation Training Centre. In 1965 Ikoku was awarded an honorary degree of doctor of law at a special convocation of the University of Ibadan in recognition of his contributions to the growth of the university. He died in 1971.

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BusinessRe: IMF Proposes Devaluation Of Naira by EzeUche2(m): 9:02pm On Feb 19, 2011
Neocolonialism is alive and well and only a fool would deny that.

Look at what the West has been doing to Comrade Robert Mugabe, when he wanted to give back the land that was stolen from ancestors a hundred years ago. They put economic sanctions on his country!
BusinessRe: IMF Proposes Devaluation Of Naira by EzeUche2(m): 8:59pm On Feb 19, 2011
Onlytruth:
We'll soon start blaming IMF for NEPA. I'm laughing.
It is more complicated than you think.

Even if we have a revolutionary leader who looks on behalf of their citizens, that man will not last long in Nigeria or Africa in general.

Revolutionary leaders:

Dr. Kwame Nkrumah - Coup
Amilcar Cabral - Assassinated
Luís Cabral - Coup
Thomas Sankara - Coup/Assassinated
Patrice Lumumba - Coup/Assasinated
Samora Moises Machel - "Fatal aircraft accident"

The list is endless.

You don't play by the West rules, you are DEAD.

Even Murtala Mohammed (A man I despise) turned his back on the West and he was assassinated.
PoliticsRe: Ijaw Youths Invade Ondo Village, Kill Five by EzeUche2(m): 8:48pm On Feb 19, 2011
That is why we Igbos believe in "Igbo enwe eze." Igbos have no use for kings. We had kings in the distant past, but our ancestors believed did away with them, and formed a more democratic system.
BusinessRe: IMF Proposes Devaluation Of Naira by EzeUche2(m): 8:45pm On Feb 19, 2011
Oil companies only pay the Nigerian government "oil rents." People need to understand the difference. They drill our oil and pay rents to have the opportunity to drill. We do not even refine our oil, in which we have to import our oil that was refined in other countries. What kind of sense does that make? We do not even sell products from oil.

If only I ruled Nigeria. The nation would be a much better place to live and raise a child.

I would turn my back on the IMF and World Bank and blaze our own path. African leaders are COWARDS.
PoliticsRe: Militant Herdsmen Invade Benue State by EzeUche2(m): 8:40pm On Feb 19, 2011
shocked shocked shocked
CultureRe: Are Ukwuani People Igbos(ukwuani People Please Talk) by EzeUche2(m): 8:05pm On Feb 19, 2011
Chyz*:
binjahbo, please if you want to change history please change your own. I am Ukwuani and there is nothing in our history that suggest we develope ANY dialect with the Igbo because of trade or christianity. We have always spoken like this just like other Igbo clans. In fact, SOME of your own ndokwa people are starting to resent being called Ukwuani, instead they want to be referred to as Ndokwa. You can keep the Ndokwa name, you will be a fool not to,but no that we are no different  from the larger Igbo group. You don't have to claim or deny being Igbo. cool
Thank you very much my IGBO brother!
BusinessRe: IMF Proposes Devaluation Of Naira by EzeUche2(m): 7:57pm On Feb 19, 2011
yeswecan:
I never knew there are intelligent folks on here. IMF and World bank have 60% of the poverty problem in Africa today. To support your point on free trade - after independent, Africa agriculture grow-ed with 8% average every year. For instance Hydén (2005) notes that “between 1966 and 1970 net agricultural export from the region averaged 1.3 million tons per year” (148). Agriculture if you remember was the backbone of Africa's growth before the discovery of numerous resources.

IMF and World bank told us that free trade is the answer and we should stop given out incentive. The negative impact of SAP program was coated with unfair trade practices on the part of the EU and the United States. The Structural adjustment led to sequence of policy modification across Africa that favored subsidized U.S. and European Union agricultural dumping and Asian exporters over African farmers. Please understand that even this period America and Europe farmers remain the most subsidized farmers until date. Europe spend billions on subsidies, a British cattle for example is subsidized with 2 pounds everyday.

A chief economist of World Bank accepted that the program was a failure, in his words, “We did not think that the human costs of these programs could be so great, and the economic gains would be so slow in coming”
Thank you! May your lineage be blessed my brothers. Instead of Africans seeing each other as enemies, we have to see ourselves as brothers in order to become a united front against the West conquest of Africa's resources. They used their agents, The World Bank and IMF to push their agenda. Anyone who has not noticed should look no further than our very own nation.

Maybe this article should drive home the point of how the SAPs caused many problems in Africa.


Experience of SAP's

In Sub-Saharan Africa and South America, where these IMF prescriptions have been rigorously adopted for the past two decades, one would be hard pressed to find any country better off today as a result of these programs (22-25). Most of the countries that have adopted these programs have seen their foreign debt increase astronomically, unemployment and poverty rates have risen, the foreign investment that was supposed to flood their countries has never materialized and trade terms have deteriorated (26-29).  Capital inflows in the form of Overseas Development Assistance (ODA) had, according to the IMF, “fallen to a historic low of 0.22 percent of donor GNP by 1997” (30).

Prior to the 1970's, the total outstanding debt of developing countries was approximately US$62 billion. In 1996, after nearly two decades of widespread implementation of SAPs, the foreign debt had risen to US$2 trillion (9). Yet the IMF is still imposing SAPs (8,9,13).

In Uganda, which is frequently cited by the IMF as a success story, the debt servicing in 2000 was almost twice as much as expenditures on health and infrastructure and 10 times more than for the agricultural sector (31). After two decades of SAPs, the debt-to-export ratio is still double the amount deemed sustainable by the IMF (31). The only gain is in the education sector where, in the year 2000, education expenditure amounted to twice that of debt servicing  (22,31,32).  However, the gains achieved in the education sector in Uganda are not representative of the experience of most Sub-Saharan countries that have undergone SAPs.  The WB asserts that compared to the 1980’s, per capita expenditure on education decreased in Sub-Saharan Africa and Latin American countries that implemented SAPs (33).

On the other hand, countries that resisted SAPs have prospered and improved the lives of their population. The Asian Miracle of the past three decades that has put countries like China, South Korea, Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia at the economic forefront was achieved precisely because these countries avoided adopting IMF prescriptions in the form of SAPs (13).

Contrary to IMF mandates, the governments of these countries played a major role in all aspects of development (13). They instituted high tariffs, let state-owned industries flourish, invested in education and health, and adopted trade liberalization after strengthening their industries (13).  The U.S. and Europe followed similar paths to achieve their current prosperous status (9,13).  During the Great Depression, the U.S. disassociated the dollar from the IMF’s gold standard, instituted steep import tariffs and allowed its industries to flourish before opening its doors to foreign competition and the international trading system (9).

This same strategy applied to Europe. At the end of the Second World War, Europe benefited from the U.S. Marshall Plan, which poured over US$13 billion dollars into rebuilding its economy (9).  Europe followed the path that the U.S. had taken during the Great Depression ensuring the survival and prosperity of its industries when it eventually opened its doors to the international trading system (9,13).
BusinessRe: IMF Proposes Devaluation Of Naira by EzeUche2(m): 7:38pm On Feb 19, 2011
Any African politicians who supports the IMF's actions should die a thousand deaths.

The West is not fair in their trade with Africa. That is why the continent remains a bread basket. They always blame corruption, but they do not see how they help facilitate corruption.

Every damn revolutionary leader that Africa has had, was either assassinated or a coup that was backed by the West was planned.
BusinessRe: IMF Proposes Devaluation Of Naira by EzeUche2(m): 7:35pm On Feb 19, 2011
The IMF and World Bank destroyed many African economies through the SAPs. I will never forgive them for this. We are still feeling the effects of their policies that wrecked throughout the continent and cause many Africans to go hungry and lose their life savings. Our money became worthless!

They told us to open up our economies to free trade.

They told us to devalue our currency.

They told us to lower the allocation to our education and social programs.

They told us to stop subsidizing agricultural sectors.

They told us to privatize state owned industries.

Now what do we have to show for this? A county that has retrogressed, in which more people were wealthier in the past than now.
BusinessRe: IMF Proposes Devaluation Of Naira by EzeUche2(m): 7:11pm On Feb 19, 2011
The reason why the IMF is saying this, is because the U.S. is getting worried about oil prices rising as the Arab world is going through a lot of problems. This of course will push crude prices into the sky. That is why they need Nigeria to devalue of currency, so they can purchase our oil cheaply.
CultureRe: Are Ukwuani People Igbos(ukwuani People Please Talk) by EzeUche2(m): 7:04pm On Feb 19, 2011
binjahbo:
Where was the igbo man when the Benin kindgom rule 3/4 of West Africa? And you talk about your fore-fathers. Don't make me type things that will offend people that i genuinely respect
Where did you get that number from? 3/4 of West Africa. I dey laugh. Do you know how big West Africa is?  grin

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Even the Songhai Empire, which was the largest West African empire could not make such a claim. Learn the history of West Africa, before you make such utterances on this forum.

This is a FAILURE of Nigeria's education system.
CultureRe: Are Ukwuani People Igbos(ukwuani People Please Talk) by EzeUche2(m): 7:01pm On Feb 19, 2011
Keep your clan identity. As long as you pay homage in the sense that you recognize you speak an Igbo dialect.
CultureRe: Are Ukwuani People Igbos(ukwuani People Please Talk) by EzeUche2(m): 6:57pm On Feb 19, 2011
binjahbo:
No, You be quiet, from what you've said you simple do not know what happens outside Africa if you are going to use that as a comparism. Now take note, The Welsh man wouldn't say his English, neither would the Cantonese man claims his manadarin neighbour is Cantonese, but they all are Chinese/British to you, cos you are ignorant.
Wrong. English is a different language from Welsh. Welsh is a Celtic language, while English is a Germanic language. There are no similarities.

You therefore used a wrong example.

Cantonese is a dialect of the Yue branch of Chinese, and Mandarin is also part of the Chinese language family as well, so you do not know what you are talking about.
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Ukwuani is part of the Igbooid languages. Even a non-Igbo will say that Ukwuani is clearly Igbo. Do you know what Ukwuani means? It is clearly Igbo. And it means the same thing even in my own Aro dialect. Who cares you do not share the same culture. You still speak Igbo. My culture is probably more mixed than any Igbo clans, but we still see ourselves Igbo even though the Aro Igbo are thoroughly mixed with Ibibio.


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