₦airaland Forum

asha 80:
All this huff and puff in the internet will get you nowhere.I hope also that you are not confusing Ogoni and Saro wiwa.Ogoni have more issue with ijaw than igbo.

Why would I confuse the Ogoni with the Ijaw? I was raised in Port Harcourt! I can tell the difference. And I am not some regular Igbo. I am an Igbo who speaks Ibibio, Aro Igbo dialect and Ikwerre dialect. I am a true son of the Delta.

You probably didn't know that the Annang (Ibibio) do not like the Igbo either.

This huff and puff is necessary. People keep on talking about diplomacy with the Ijaws when they stab us in the back. I never trusted them. The traitorous Adaka Boro blood runs through their veins. And I do not have pity for Saro Wiwa who mocked the Igbo daily.

Whoever said we should be protecting the Ijaw is seriously smoking some strong Igbo. But I will forgive the Igbo man who said that.

Let the Ijaws protect themselves. They already try to kill our people in the Niger Delta, they get no pity from me. Odi was retribution for there betrayal they committed against the Igbo.

If Nigeria was to disintegrate, I would never form a nation with the Ijaws. The Ijaws can have their small nation of Bayelsa and parts of Delta and a small part of Rivers. What major city do they own?

Port Harcourt cannot be claimed by them!

To think that we Igbos are mistreated in our own backyard! The nerve of these minorities.

I BLAME the weak Igbo clans who allow this to happen. An Ohafia, Abam, Aro, or Abiriba man would never allow us to be pushed around like this.

Igbos need new leadership under the guise of the warrior clans. Diplomacy is OVER. I am tired of trying to work with the Ijaws and the Ogoni. As minorities we should dictate to them. If they do not like it, then they can fight us! Lets see who will win.

I cheered on JTF what they were doing in the creeks of the Niger Delta.

ChinenyeN:
Enyi, let us both be realistic, we Igbo generally are neither prepared nor willing to go to war. To push for such at this time would be a grave mistake.

War is what unites the Igbo. We seen the greatest unity during our period at war then in anytime in our history! We need something to unite our people.

The Ijaw can be the perfect scapegoat. Their aggression has not gone unnoticed.

udezue:
Lmfaooooooo@ EzeUche, egwu dikwa oo. BTW!!!! I don't want to digress but did u attend UIU Houston? Yes or no make una carry on with the convo

Uwem-eyo udezue! Aba die?

Mmekom abasi for giving me the opportunity to dispel some of these myths.

I was not able to attend my brother. My boss would not allow me to get off for those dates.

udezue, you have been quiet on this thread, come and add your input. It is much appreciated.

ChinenyeN:
EzeUche, the only legitimate access that Igbo has to the sea is P.H. (unless I'm missing something), and even then, moving out of that port means cutting through Ijo territory. Now, with that said, the reality of the situation is that, although Igbo is technically not landlocked, our access to the sea is highly dependent on our relation with Ijo, and your current mentality will not help Igbo/Ijo relations at all. It would be better if we call on some northern Igbo, who are more competent in diplomacy, to handle Igbo/Ijo relations as opposed to Cross River Igbo. A war-like mentality will be detrimental to the objective (you should know that).

Hello my Ngwa brother. I understand your point of view on this issue, but the Igbo have been leader by the diplomatic clans of the Igbo for far too long. This is why we are in the current state that we are in. There is a time for diplomacy and there is a time for war. Right now we Igbos, all the clans of the Igbo have conceded too much from our enemies. We have allowed outsiders to dictate to us how the East should be run, and these minorities think it is ok to mock the Ndi Igbo. It just burns my blood, oh I wish we could do the things we used to do in the past. Annihilate one village and the people will run for the hills and understand who are the true masters of the East.

Diplomacy is over.

Ezeagu,

Excuse my hostility, but my very own hometown was originally inhabited by the Ibibio. But now it is a fully Igbo town. My town was founded through war. This warrior instinct is in my blood. I as an Aro Igbo that has Abam and Ohafia bloodlines running through my veins and Efik/Ibibio through my mother whose hometown is Calabar.

If these minorities want to blockade us, we shall blow them out the water. We are willing to work with minorities, but the minorities need to understand that they do not dictate to us. And we Alaigbo will not be landlocked. A landlocked Igboland is totally out of the question. I will not even wish to hear that nonsense. Anybody who says Alaigbo is landlocked is declaring war on all of Alaigbo.

That is the way I think.

We Igbos are warriors, our strong sense of individualism even admired amongst the whites should not be forgotten.

My fellow Igbo brothers and sisters, we have to change our way of thinking. To be held hostage by some minority groups is beneath us. We need to start throwing around great numbers.

First the consolidation of Igboland.

Then we should focus on our rightful claim to the SEA! If the minority groups have a problem, then so be it, they can fight us for it, and they can LOSE!

Yorubas and the Hausa need to worry about their own backyard then the East. The interesting aspect is that if the Niger Delta did not have oil, they would not be worried about the region. Then we would not hear a word from these minorities. I wish things we different.

ezeagu:
I understand, but we have to face reality. The old tactics are no longer an option. These towns you call Igbo are partially Igbo because they also contain a high amount of Ijaw and other ethnicities and there are Ijaw villages on Bonny Island. Whatever majority the Igbo had before should have been used to secure some beach, but that obviously wasn't their priority back then.

Frankly, with the population density in core Igboland, which is making our core regions overpopulated, we are going to for other areas in the East to move to in great numbers. Populations do not stay the same, and population changes occur throughout the years. Let us look at the changing demographics of the United States.

Population stresses within in Alaigbo will create new problems and new opportunities. Soon these lands that are claimed to be "lost" will be part of Alaigbo again and also NEW land.

This is the way of the world, the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must. If the minorities have a problem with that, then let them fight and they shall lose and we will claim new land.

If Nigeria was to disintegrate, you think the Igbos will allow us to be landlocked? The answer is no.

ezeagu:
But the British weren't experts, and this is now, many of those inhabitants have probably assimilated. The fact is Igboland has no direct shoreline and has to go to Bonny and Opobo, partial Igbo regions, through rivers cutting through other peoples land.

"Oyigbo" is actually Obigbo after all.

Actually, I do not like to give praise to the white man and the British in particular, but they were experts when it came to administering a population. They learned the history of the people, the language that the people speak and culture in order to control them. This is well documented throughout the entire world.

So what if these towns are seperated from the wider Igbo, they are still our TOWNS! And you think you can tell the numerical superior Igbos who we can claim or not? I am tired of this nonsense, people need to understand that the Igbo make up around 75% of the Eastern population. A CLEAR majority. You think we will be held hostage by minorities?  

People should be happy that the Igbo leadership do not think like me. And they let Aro, Ohafia or other warlike Igbo clans to lead for a change, we Igbos would be in better shape in this country. To think we are held hostage by minorities!  

People also need to realize the ramification of Aro raids led to great upheavals throughout all of Alaigbo. Whole towns and villages were forced to flee. They did not flee north, they traveled south. This cause many demographic shifts throughout the East. Anyone who denies this is a fool.

This is why you find Igbos or people of Igbo descent in the coastal towns. The reason is SLAVERY. It doesn't matter that they were not there from the start, the main things is that they were there and HAVE been there for centuries!

And let us not forget that the Ijaws are not native to the East. And there were no such thing as one Ogoniland when the Europeans came. These people barely saw past their towns.

So there is consensus that Opobo was an Igbo town, not an Ijaw, Ogoni  or Ibibio town. Ijaws and Ogoni have no claim to Opobo, maybe the Ibibio, but it was an Igbo man who founded the city.

Since the history of that town is well documented, it was founded by the world famous Jubo Jubogha also known as Jaja of Opobo an Igbo slave that founded the famous city-state. It doesn't matter where the land orignally belonged to, the only thing that matters is that an Igbo man founded that city.

ezeagu:
Bonny and Port Harcourt are connected through the Bonny River, an 'Ijaw owned' river, Opobo is unreachable without going through Ogoni or some other non-Igbo lands. The main issue here is access to the sea. Igboland seems to be landlocked.

Stop spreading lies.   Igboland is not landlocked. As the British noticed, there were Igbos that could be found along the coast as well. Are you going to argue with British sociologist who traveled throughout the East to learn the ways of the inhabitants.

Colonialism was not good, but one thing the British did very well was take very good notes! They wanted to understand their colonial subjects, so that they can manage them better.

Let them have their Aba State. I don't even care anymore.

Something about this needs to be done.

What is the problem with the Ngwa?

Pat Utomi for 2011!

In a credible election, other parties would be able to run for the presidency fairly!

Beaf:
Abeg go and graze. Let those with brains speak jare!
These days, doctors can do brain transplants from chimps to your type, so you have no excuse 

Just like your mother was giving brain to me. How about that? She did it real well. If you don't know what the slang term brain mean, you should look it up.

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Back on topic -

Anyway, carry on. People have already called you out on your HYPOCRISY. Ok you support Jonathan, while others support IBB, Pat Utomi, Buhari etc. In a REAL democracy, the opinions of others should be respected.

texazzpete:
Religion is at an all-time high in Nigeria. Are the people happy? Please provide us with the answer 

Nigeria tops happiness survey

A new study of more than 65 countries published in the UK's New Scientist magazine suggests that the happiest people in the world live in Nigeria - and the least happy, in Romania.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3157570.stm


That was easy! 

Beaf, I shall call a spade a spade.

You are an idiot. I may play around a lot, but on certain issues, I will back up statements. The same people you demonizing is the same way you are acting. I cannot tell the difference between the IBB supporters and you. Only that you support Jonathan for some unknown reason.

A man who has not even declared his intent on the presidency. So just shut your mouth and stop living in a glass house.

MetalGong4:
Another silly thread by the Hispanic dimwit . . . . . . 

Enough calling the nigga a hispanic. This dude be akata of Yoruba origin. Call him akata and the guy goes crazy.

Beaf:
Muppet.

FOOL. You are no different from the people supporting IBB. Learn to think for yourself instead of riding someone else you fool.

redsun:
I can't believe some people are still wondering whether there is gog or not.Of course there is no god,life is by chance and it can not be compared to nothing.

Seems like you have been in the West too long. Atheism is on the rise in the West and are the people happy? The answer is NO!

Was the Big Bang by chance? Can science explain everything? The answer to both of these questions is NO

We Africans have forgotten our old gods!

Chineke bu eze!

Beaf:
Even Donald Duke will vote for Uncle Joe.
Anything less than 99% for Jonathan in the SS will mean IBB has attempted rigging.

Nobody else is worth the trouble in 2011.

Shutt the HELL up Beaf. There are more people running than IBB or Jonathan so just shut your mouth.

I am getting tired of you!

Amaechi is my governor and I will always support the man. I'll rather have him as president then Goodluck Jonathan.

Goodluck should tread carefully, Amaechi is very popular amongst the Non-Ijaw populations of the Niger Delta.

Jonathan should focus on his own backyard before he stars his wahala in the southeast.

Out of all the Igbo clans they enjoy mentioning the Aro. To the people who say the Aro do not mean anything, look at what they say about the Aro!

Our people were TRADERS and very shrewd businessmen.

And they act as if the Aro were a separate ethnic group. They did not do the same to the Ikwerre or the Ngwa.

Even the Europeans were comparing the Yoruba with the Igbo.

They said our society was not as advanced with the Yoruba but given time, we would be the better race! lol

In addition, they said our individuality and self-reliance made us more capable workers than the Yorubas. Very interesting indeed.

Also, the said we were more courageous, our music was better and artwork.

Lets keep this in mind,

Our economy is growing, but is the wealth of the nation being spread equitable?

The answer is NO

When you have a large amount of impoverished people, then CONFLICT arises. We have no social welfare in this country while the politicians loot loot loot.

The reason why this thread has done so well, because we Igbos ignored all you non-entities who have a problem with the Ndi Igbo. You all tried, but we resisted any attempts.

Every Igbo and Non-Igbo posters except for a few acted in a grown and respectful way.


Now back on topic.