₦airaland Forum

sjeezy8:
lol whos marginalizing igbo? Not yorubas we dont care about marginilizing people - thats not our style but we know if igbo want to be president they cant do it without vote from the yprubas(christians and muslim) and middle belt Kwara Kogi and Niger states.

Nigeria can stay like this- I dont give a shiot Afterall The SW has been quite fine to me and most yorubas I love it

Chineke!

Yorubas marginalize others and themselves. That is your style.

Do not get me wrong, I respect Yorubas for their rich heritage and culture, but as a people it is hard to work with you all. I can party with your people, I can have relations with your people, but when it comes to politics, there is no way I can join forces with you all.

Either way, since this nation is bound to fail. I am simply trying to save this nation.

You Yorubas and the North can shoot yourselves in the foot.

Marginalize the Igbo at your own peril, Nigeria will not last as a nation. Point blank.

US Army Prepares for Nigeria’s Possible Break-up (2015)

NewsRescue- The article below and related articles raise pertinent questions- 1. Is the United States promoting a breakup, in what’s known as the ’tissue scarcity scare’ scenario, where the suggestion and promotion of a concept leads to its manifestation. Nigerians skeptical about the possibility of a breakup get reassured that best analysis from the US suggests its high possibility of success and parties in favor of this go ahead in full force to make this so-called expert analysis a reality? Or is a natural breakup indeed the reality?

The US has been known to be at the center of important breakups in the past. Countries like Vietnam and Korea had the US play a major skewed role, and when these Nations divided into North and South, the US stationed its troops at the border to defend usually the Southern territory, and the Northern usually became a rejected, isolated rudiment.

In Nigeria the North, currently the power holding block, which is majorly Muslim, and lacks petroleum resources will almost certainly be turned into an Arab aligned, possibly terrorist ‘axis of evil’, Nation. While the US will according to experts defend and instill puppet rule over the resourceful South, which it is believed it will assist in secession if a breakup war occurs.

The US will likely favor such a breakup for obvious reasons- the current leader of Nigeria thumped his finger in the US nose, clearly rejecting the installation of US AFRICOM military command in Nigeria. Nigeria’s government has also of recent signed deals with Russia and Iran for major resource, military and power(Nuclear generation) mutual ventures. This alliance possibly does not sit well with the US. In addition, Nigeria has been promoting development, not by serving US interest but by cooperation’s with so-called third world Nations like Brazil.

http://www.newsrescue.com/2009/08/us-army-prepares-for-nigeria%E2%80%99s-possible-break-up-2015/

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=500758.msg6626006#msg6626006 date=1282584195]Sad to see that yall aint learned from the mistakes of your fathers! You really think anyone is "begging" yall?! Sad to see that u guys are really terrible at political calculations! I guarantee, 2 years from now the Ibos will be crying "Marginalization" again as the Hausas and Yorubas share the posts amongst themselves![/quote]And you know what would happen. There will be another civil war. Keep in mind that the East has never been pacified. And the world will not come to Nigeria's aid. Better believe that when most Western Nations are predicting that the country will break up anytime soon.

Do you want me to show you the report. How they mentioned the Igbos being marginalized will lead to the break up of this nation? How 30 + million people cannot be kept away from power?

sjeezy8:
@ Ezeuche-

appeasing the EAST? LOL
The COUNTRY not even the North Only but the Whole COUNTRY appeased the West when they had a yoruba vs yoruba election in 1999- to make sure a  yoruba was president- THATS WHAT YOU CALL APPEASING

Northerners dont give to shitz about the East- what does it have offer- Most of the Oil they like is in the SS which is why the favor the Ijaws and non igbo niger deltans-

If they did like the igbos wouldnt they have favoured an igbo VP in 2007 Instead of an Ijaw?- The put an ijaw ahead- when Obj told them he wanted an igbo- soludo.

lol- the north doesnt have to look at the yorubaland as his equal it doesnt matter to yoruba people

Your post shows me even more how OBJ (Yoruba traits) deceived the North and now they are angry. Thank you for proving my point.

OBJ double crossed the Igbos and the North. If more people talk about this, you will find a realignment in the politics of Nigeria. Northerners only care about their interest and I do not blame them. They will happily ditch the Yoruba if they know that there interest (oil) will be given to them from the Igbo.

We Igbos only care about business. We do not care who deal with. As long no one messes with our money, everything will be alright.

Yorubas threatened secession when Abiola did not get what he 'deserved.' Nothing happened. Yorubas did not do anything when Abacha who was a well known northerner who despised the Yoruba was killing your people. Nothing happened. If Abacha didn't die, more Yorubas would have died. And nothing would happen.

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=500758.msg6625970#msg6625970 date=1282583851]Dude, Im talking about the United States, what the hell r u talking about? R u blind? Instead of foaming in the mouth, eager to reply, try to calm down, read and comprehend! Did u miss where I said : Children of Influential Norther Nigerians?[/quote]Why are you talking about the U.S. when we are talking about Nigerian politics?

You rarely find a Hausa in the U.S. unless he is from Ghana. I bet you never even seen a Hausa in America, because they are rare to find.

This is common knowledge and everyone knows this. Hausa go to Egypt or Arab nations, not the U.S. lol

chyz:
I LOVE IT, LOOK HOW MUCH THE NAIRALANDERS ARE BEGGING US TO SIDE WITH THEM.

I enjoy it as well. I keep on saying that OBJ is the gift that keeps on giving to the Igbo. North is upset with the Yoruba and the south-south, and the Igbos are in the middle while each side is trying to woo our votes. Very interesting.

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=500758.msg6625915#msg6625915 date=1282583389]I've heard children of influential Northern Nigerians speak of the Ibos and its always with nothing but venom, fire, and brimstone! Dude, they hate u guys with a passion. A simple way to know this? Even in everyday life, the Yorubas and the Ibos always bond. I've met Ibos that come around so much that for years I thought they was Yorubas cus they spoke the language and acted just like the Yorubas (they even "hated" if their Yoruba friends let other Yorubas know they was Ibo). I also met Yorubas I thot was Ibo cus they spoke the language. . . . Now, I've also met Hausas that was close friends with Yorubas and vice versa. But an Hausas with a Ibo. . . . ? lemme play Tony Soprano for a quick second: "FUGGEDAHBOUIT!!!"[/quote]What are you talking about?

There are plenty of Hausa in Igboland. Go to Aba and you will see Hausa who have been in that town for at least 3 generations. The Hausa that live in Igboland speak Igbo and intermingle and some marry our people. There was a thread created to show how the Hausa feel comfortable in Igboland. They respect us in our land and do not attack us in our land.

Enugu's first mayor was a Hausa, not an Igbo.

While in Yorubaland, they attack them in Ekiti, and fight with them in Lagos. They would not do that in Igboland, because they respect the keepers of the land.

No Igbo man is scare of the Hausa and vice versa. That is why we can be found in huge numbers in the north. We are found everywhere in Nigeria and not only in Nigeria, but Africa in general.

sjeezy8:
youre clueless- a dumby and obviously never met a northerner- not even sultan of Sokoto can convince an Hausa to vote for a non muslim- Northerners are not clueless and are very smart but what they care about is MAINLY religion not ethnicity.

If anything what gives Jonathan the upper hand is that there are governors who need PDP to win to get second term in office.

You just hate the truth. It is quite funny. Thinking that a Hausa man sees a Yoruba as his equal. You all are just house boys. That is why no northerner fears a Yorubaman. Don't even trust you all.

They do not trust the Igbo in the north, but they definitely fear us what we are capable of. That is why they haven't allowed us to get closer to power. We gave them a shock to their system.

People are looking past the southwest. OBJ is the best thing to happen to the Igbo since the 1st Republic. So you are right. I can thank the man for making the southeast as the darling in this election. Everyone is trying to woo the East.

Dede1:
I do not pay attention to traitors and cowards such Alabo Tonye Graham-Douglas and Edwin Clarke especially when they wallow in a sea of arrant stupidity. The North region of Nigeria gave rise to nonsensical south-south. It is laughable when a punk such Tonye Graham-Douglas talks about north’s intimidation as he has ever stood up against the northern region of Nigeria.

I see that I am not the only one who thinks this 'south-south' region is complete and utter nonsense.

I'll rather be green.

sjeezy8,

Northern people do not vote for someone because they are Muslim, they vote for people who their leaders tell them to vote for. POINT BLANK

If the Northern leaders say vote for the Igbo man, because he will have our interest in mind as well over the Muslim Yoruba, then they will vote in droves for the Igbo man.

Win over the northern elite and they will deliver their people. It is as simple as that. The Hausa do not differentiate who they are killing. In Jos, the Hausa killed more Yorubas than they did with anybody from the East. Many of these Yorubas shared the same religion as them, but they still killed them.

The North do not consider you Yorubas as true Muslims. That is why I laugh when you think they are your friends.

OBJ burned that bridge and the north is looking for new allies. The north calculates better than any other region. Why not make their former enemies as their allies?

Appeasing the Igbos is a way of taming the East.

sjeezy8:
LOL you really made me laugh- you think Obj is the head of yorubas- LMFAO? There is TINIBU MUSLIM, FASOLA MUSLIM, MIMIKO MUSLIM, ADAMS OSHIOMOLE MUSLIM( Half bini, half yoruba) DIMEJI BANKOLE MUSLIM, - all of whom are WELL LIKED BY THE CORE NORTH AND Southwest.

If anything Obj is the most hated guy in the SW- even me sef im waiting for this guy to be gone,

OBJ seriously burned that bridge. Listen, he is still a Yorubaman to the North and what he did to them has made them very upset. Do you actually think they will support someone who backstabbed them.

The North view people through their political leaders. OBJ is seen as a Yoruba leader by the North and there is nothing you can say that will change their mind.

Interesting enough, we all know how Abacha did not like the Yorubas and outright assassinated many Yoruba political leaders. He did not do that in Igboland.

Beaf:
No problems Charlie, there is only one way to find out why he is called maradona.
. . .Negotiating with serial mr promise and fail.

I'm almost falling on the floor in laughter!

Don't understand why you laughing when your land is being exploited.

IBB does not forget those who help him. During his tenure and Abacha's tenure they were not enemies of the Igbo.

And the North does not trust after the southwest anymore. 

OBJ burned that bridge for the Yorubas to unite with the North. That is why they are looking at their former allies. Remember we Igbos did join forces with the north to go against Awolowo and his double talking plans.

One thing that can be said is that the north has no permanent allies. It only has interest. The North does not have any affinity for the pseudo-muslims found in the southwest.

You be deluded to think that a Hausa man considers a Yoruba a true muslim.

Can't trust many people from the south-south when they turned against their own brothers. Sort of a Cain and Abel saga.

I can tolerate the north acting the way they do, but when people like the Ijaw and Annangs turned against the Igbo, that was unforgivable.

THE AMAKA:
identity crisis

Come again?

Beaf:
In a democracy, minority voices (like yours) are allowed.
War ke! Negotiate with Jonathan so that the federal presence can be felt in the SE, cos what is going on there is a disgrace. But the only way out is to negotiate and join the political mainstream. Jonathan, you call a minority is almost certain to be victorious in 2011, he is the same person that worried about Igbo language going into extinction. Abi no be so? Why should anybody think they can't do deals with the guy? Talk of shooting yourself in the foot.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/07/20/jonathan-charges-ndigbo-on-threat-to-igbo-language/

The Igbo language will not be going extinct anytime soon when the language if the lingua franca of the East. He needs to worry about Ijaw and the other minority languages that will be going extinct. If Igbos goes extinct, the minority languages in the East will also go extinct faster.

And why should we negotiate with him? I'll rather negotiate with IBB who has not been an enemy to the Igbo.

chyz:
There will be a break up of nigeria possibly as projected by the U.S. Hoowever, didnt the niger delta say they are going to break off if GJ is pushed out of office and didnt they threaten war?

Gbam!

No one listeans when the South-South threatens war, because they would not last a week.

Beaf:
Go and sleep! War because the presidency isn't zoned?
Be wise, zoning is dead and buried. It was only brought in to apease the Yoruba for the the loss of MKO.

War, because my people who are the majority in the East continue to be treated like 2nd class citizens in this nation. You think an Igbo man will support some minority from the East to be given a chance to lead before us? You must be kidding.

Numbers matter and we have the numbers. When we talk, people listen.

[quote author=na_so link=topic=501992.msg6625367#msg6625367 date=1282579026]^^^^^^^^

I somehow agree with you. So in your opinion when realistically will the SE produce the president?[/quote]If the Igbos do not do not get the presidency zoned to usby 2015, it will surely lead to break up of this nation.

Are we not the only people who are able to disintegrate this nation? When the Igbos are on the war path, all the other groups have to unite to defeat us.

Discontent is rising in the East. We do not wish to play 2nd fiddle to anyone. Can't keep down a population of 30+ million plus people and think they will be happy.

naijaking1:
Right on the money!!!
That's the reason to remove any inflammatory personality from both the SS and SE side before any meaningful talk can start. You see, strategically a loose for GEJ would be a loss for all eastern Nigerians, however, the earlier Ijaw people stopped boasting about how they co-operated with Hausa people to kill and defeat Igbos the better.

Yet these same Ijaws are being blown out of their creeks by the JTF. They deserve what they get.

seanet02:
SO YOU EXPECT SOMEONE TO SUPPORT YOU WHEN YOU ARE CLEARLY ALWAYS REASONING WITHOUT THINKING

When did I give you permission to talk to me?

ChinenyeN,

Go back to defending Igbos as a whole and you shall have my respect again. I find some of your post very divisive when we Igbos are trying to unite.

Obiagu1:
I see. Why is he so forceful about his lone voice/view and overly divisive? Still weird to me.

Some older NL members once said the reason why he is so foreful about his lone views, because he interacted with his clan when he was younger and not with other Igbo clans. That is why he looks inwards. His views are very weird to me as well.

You can tell he has never lived in Igboland.

ChinenyeN:
Actually, yes, I have, and this topic has already been covered, earlier this year, by you, 006, asha 80 and I.
Well, not entirely. I admit, he does get ahead of himself in many of his claims, but I wouldn't really say that he stands for nothing, but lies. There are many instances where there is truth in what he says. . he just has to learn to word it.

LIES!

You told us all you have not visited Alaigbo! And you included that you have never visited your village.

ChinenyeN:
. . . and he continues the lies. . . the states part is true though.

Tell us ChinenyeN, have you ever visited Alaigbo? If you haven't, then you cannot talk to someone who was raised in Igboland about the situation on the ground.

Most of the Igbos commenting on this thread have lived in Igboland. Our experiences shape our views.

ChinenyeN:
Lies, lies and more lies.

What is a lie?

You have not visited Alaigbo. TRUTH

You were raised in the states. TRUTH

You do not know what you are talking about concerning Igbo issues. TRUTH

This is why people get upset with you. Because if you were raised in Alaigbo, you would know that we do not talk in such a way.

Obiagu1:
Who is this ChinenyeN sef? He seems to be a weird Igbo boy if actually he is Igbo. I’ve never seen or heard any Igbo from the 5 SE states sound like him so I’m suspicious of his identity. So weird!

Gbam!

But do not pay him any attention. He is a confused Igbo boy who was raised in the U.S. and never visited Alaigbo. His words can only be taken with a grain of salt.

Beaf:
Please go to your usual tribalistic threads. What muscle does any group in the South South or South East have aside from the sort of knuckle headedness you regularly display?

Beaf, my nemesis. There was nothing tribalistic about my post. Just trying to understand the muscle that the fictional south-south has. Anything East of the River Niger will forever be the Igbos domain.

It is time for us to flex our numerical muscle.

Get used to it. GJ dream of becoming president will remain a dream if the Igbos are not on-board. Let "Chief" Edwin Clarke beg the Ndi Igbo for our support. Let him grovel on the floor. I would enjoy that very much.

oludashmi:
where did you get your highest degree frm? frm the war front? have you forgotten that yorubas are the most educated in Nig cos our elders stated with free education while your elders where investing war.
At the same time, wht have you too done for your tribe?

You all cannot compete with our intellectual prowess. Shall we flex our intellectual muscle? Igbos v. Yorubas. Always a nice competition. We know both war and education. It is good to know both.

hehehehehe Ngwaland o!