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PBundles: I remember back in the 80s they were saying it was a fad and would go away and woul NEVER lead the sales, fast forward and its the leading sales leader.

and niggas are cashing out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9mfuifkZgc

edo - the heartbeat of the nation, and the state holding nigeria together.

....and a cocoyam can never be mistaken for yam, no matter how big it claims to be.

oh, i get osamede now. so i will edit my post about the name.

'Ore Umunode eee
Ore Umunode zaghara gua
Evbo mwan ni maye eee.......'

Satis?

no.

lol a link about 'folklore and the challenge of national integration'. the name says it all.

google master, i guess to failed to comprehend this part:

"The chiefs contention is that the bearers of such a name should be great cultivators of cocoyam, and yet there is no evidence to show they are — indeed. Umunede is rather known for their yams, not cocoyams."

so how and when did cocoyam become integrated into the history of the people instead of what they are known for, yams?

You were wrong. Next.

so says ezeagu, and unfortunately for u, i dont take u seriously.

bokohalal: So you agree that it would make more sense for it to bo a proper name and the place named after such person.

Give me an Edo name(proper) that is N'ede?

mr. edo (proper) master, what is ur definition of umunode? let me see how u define that word.

bokohalal: Umunode is the Edo name for Umunede. There goes your carry and fall not theory.

how does this make umu nede meaningless in bini?

Ede is crown.

ede also means day, and also a shortened form of n'ede answered by binis.

bokohalal: If 'isale' has an Edo meaning , if at all, does not make the 'isale' in Isale Eko Edo. You see the point now.
In Edo language the noun nullifies the 'ghe' but nut so the verb. Here;
La ho ghe gui
Damwen eho ghe guan

Kpakpe gha khian
But
Ekpen ne (ghi) de
Omon ne (ghi) d

so if ala has meaning in igbo does that also mean ala is land in alaghodaro? hypothetically speaking?

when u try use ur knowledge of english to define edo, is where u go wrong. ekpen-ne-de is clear to me in meaning, just like umu-ne-de is also clear.

ghe - dont
ne - not
neghi - never
ghi has no meaning on its own

La ho ghe gui - please, dont be angry
Damwen eho ghe guan - listen to me, dont talk

so, 'ekpen ne de' in english translation would mean 'leopard that will not fall',
while 'ekpen neghi de' means 'leopard that will never fall'

Ede is a name. Infer 'umun'. She did.

but since u agree ede is a name, what is the meaning of ede?

bokohalal: Umunede,I repeat,has no meaning in Edo language the way it is unless you stretch it and is a long stretch.

umu - u carry
nede - not fall

i dont see how that is a stretch

bokohalal: Ezotik,the OP wrote a name'Ede'. The OP is not Edo. Ede is a proper Edo name. Umu is the Igbo word for children. You do not have to stretch it. One can find numerous interpretations in any Nigerian language to suit them. Isale-eko is a combination(in my opinion)of Edo and Yoruba. You could equally attempt 'isale' to mean something in Edo.

if isale has meaning in edo that i am aware of, i will state it. that will not add to or diminish the meaning of isale in yoruba language. but to state that isale has no meaning in edo because it has in yoruba is an injustice to edo language.

and stretch what exactly? 'umu' or 'nede'? 'umu' is igbo for children, and according to ur definition 'umu' is 'you carry', how is that different from what i wrote?

Do not fall- ghe de.

so that will mean 'ekpenede' is 'leopard of ede', abi?

The Op's history is in order not 'children of cocoyam' or 'carry and not fall'.

the OP never defined the meaning of umunede.

bokohalal: It does not have to be stated. If 'Ede'is a proper Edo name and the OP stated that he was an Edo prince(which you unknowingly admitted after attempting'carry and not fall') there is no Edo language that would make sense if you added the verb 'mu' and the preposition 'n'. It could only have come from another language.
If you had attempted 'u mu ne ede' (you carried for Ede') you would have had a point.

if it does not have to be stated, it also does not have to be assumed. i translated the name according to my knowledge of bini, and i dont actually dont care where ede is from. the people say he was from benin, he could as well have been a cocoyam from nnewi, it doesnt add or remove from my argument. but to say the word 'umunede' has no meaning in bini is baseless. what is 'not fall' in bini?

bokohalal: Do not know where Ezotik got his translation from.
Umunede is in Edo folklore and folksongs.
In Edo language only 'ede' makes sense as a noun and a verb. 'U mu' means ' you carry' but adding 'e de' to it will not make a proper Edo language sense. I am inclined therefore to lean towards the op's meaning of a combination of 'umu'(Igbo for 'children') 'n'(Edo for 'of') and 'Ede'(name in Edo). Especially because most of present day Anioma is a cultural and liguistic
melting pot

when the first 'e' in umunede is accented, it makes complete sense. i dont know how to add tones with my keyboard that was why i wrote it as umu n'ede.

and where was the bold stated in the OP? can u quote it coz i cant find it.

ifyalways: I think umunede means "the children of ede" which would bring the next question; who is ede, where is he from?.

u think? and i have also given my thoughts on the meaning of umunede. and ede according to the people was bini.

Ezotic, to fall in igbo is "Ida or daa" . Not that I get your drift though.

thanks. and i wasn't 'drifting' to ur lane.

ezeagu: I can randomly put up a website claiming that my whole family have the direct lineage from the Pharaohs of Egypt, in fact many of these websites have claimed they migrated from Egypt. We only use these website to get what we already know or to find out information that we can somewhat verify from more reliable sources (like I have a published source which Umu na ede means children and the cocoyam). You honestly want me to believe everything anyone puts up on the internet, especially when there's people making up things like umu means to carry in Ika?

Again you are 100% sure of nothing, just like you weren't able to properly decipher the name of Umunede, and just like you're refusing to accept that Umu in Ika definitely means children just like it does in many other Igbo languages. Give this mission up because it has been shot down.

let me get this straight, people like u put up websites only when it substantiate ur assumptions but when a website doesn't, u push it aside because it does not support ur assumptions? how is that objective in any way especially with regards to history? i didnt need to put up any website to break down the meaning of umunede with examples for comparison. u were the one to put up a website , so the only thing u are shooting down is ur foot since u are now arguing against websites. and oh yeah, i am 100% certain are not from there. deny ur origins all u want.

It would be better to decipher what your own ethnic group is mixed with because it's clear you have wondered into where you are an ignorant outsider. That there are people who migrated from neighbouring elements into the general population whose culture is overwhelmingly similar to the communities on the opposite side of the Niger, does not mean that these elements make or brake the general culture. I bet you don't even know why Onitsha is known as Ado N'Idu or where eze Chima even reached. Fact. There is no Anioma town known as Bini bi na uzọ or Ishan bi na izọ. There is no Ọgwa Bini/Ishan Ukwu. There is no such thing as Umu eze Erediuwa. Again. Stick to the investigation of the origins of your own people.

no, it is better u face east and go worry about the people u are mixed with instead of corrupting the history of others. from ika being under umu eze chima to the nonsense u have written on this thread, it shows u are clueless about the people. btw history professor, why is onitsha known as ado n'idu? let me here ur version and u can also put up a website to support ur claim.

However, later migrations to Umunede were well documented. For example, there were other immigrants from Ishan, Benin-speaking areas and Yoruba areas of the west between the 16th and 19th centuries and their quarters are well known in Umunede. Also, there have been large number of immigrants from the Eastern Igbo-speaking area since the last quarter of the 19th century

i personally think the other tribes ika are mixed with are way too quiet over this issue especially esan. if proper research is done, it will show they have way more in common with others than they do with igbos who discovered them thanks to lugard.

ezeagu: Your arguments have no basis. For you to suggest that Umu in Ika doesn't mean children of,.

The proposed Bini origin of the name doesn't even deny that Umu means 'child of', instead that ede is a Benin prince.

umu may or may not mean children in ika, does not mean umu has no meanin in bini like u igbos had earlier insinuated. and since the history of the people states that ede was bini, i see no reason why the meaning of umu should be defined by ika language and not bini.

when much of Ika are under Umu eze chima, just makes all your arguments even more of a flop.

where did u pull that out from? ur azz? yeah, i thought.

Your arguments using alaghodoro or whatever is laughable since that has nothing to do with Umuede, children and the cocoyam.

of course it has. it shows how people can exploit words to suit themselves, especially when 'umu' and 'ede' does not mean children and cocoyam.

You don't know where anyone is from. Let us see who knows more about Anioma languages.

i am 100% sure u are not from that area unless u want to start denying ur origins. and why the hell would i be in competition with u on who knows more about anioma languages? i wouldn't even rely on ur so-called knowledge.

afam4eva:

abadabidi no gbuen gbugbe. e evbin hia atalo yi.

abysirius: Pls let's av ur views.

kuetin, eya mue afieran vbe ogievan na!!

wetin dey shack am for body and wetin dey there wey e never see before. abi e nor conquer the territory before e make am his colony? if he didn't, too bad for him especially when the territory would previously have been overran by a buncha niggas.

[quote author=tpia@]I thought ezotik used to be benin.[/quote]well, the OP wanted to also know if it happens elsewhere. and yes, the gizzard was always reserved for my dad by my mum. kinda funny thinking about it now.

it is true though. i remember the gizzard was always reserved for my dad.

[quote author=Lovely empress ]Lmfao hmmm so your woman can walk around bald as far as for you right?[/quote]of course who cares, as long as she is good looking. in fact, black women with bald or low cut are generally seen as sexy by mainstream society.

[quote author=Lovely empress ]Lol that's a foolish comment cause no man wants to have a woman on his arm whose hair looks like it's trying to run away from her head.[/quote]but as long as the hair is decent and u are not looking like wily wily, men dont give a fvck, he is ready to roll. men believe u spend too much time on ur hair anyway.

im only interested in the kitty hair. keep it well shaved but dont shave it all off to become abolo. make something remain wey i go play with. and most importantly, keep it clean and not funky.

any man paying attention to a woman's hair is gay or a hair stylist.

blogger2tooker: FAITH IS ALIVE AND NOT DEAD. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS PLACED ON GODS WORD. GENOTYPE OR NO GENOTYPE MY BLOOD GROUP AND THOSE OF MY FAMILY IS CALLED JESUSTYPE.

bros, nor be lie and i believe u. after all the same bible that the catholics believe in says, with ur faith u can move mountains. so wetin be common genotype.

lol @ the christianity vs science debate.

the catholic church in nigeria are bloody hypocrites. so because it is now scientifically possible to know ur genotype, they are demanding for test before marriage. but what is not scientifically possible, they leave it to faith.

it is not scientifically possible for a man given birth to by a virgin to die and rise after three days, and then ascend to the high heavens never to be seen again without being a lost astronaut. but i guess we should leave that to faith? ...yeah right!

but one thing i wonder though, how did our forbearers cope with the disease before oyibo man discovered sickle cell gene in the black man barely a 100 years ago? did they also do selective breeding like we have been advised by oyibo?