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There will never be a united push for African supremacy without a common cultural platform to launch from, and there will never be common cultural platform unless it is forcibly created, forged in blood and stamped indelibly in the minds of the younger generation


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boko haram with someone like buhari as president for like 30 to 40 years?

shymmex, i read ur response, so how is south sudan fairing today? coz they did split along those lines u are advocating, and do u think anything will change in south sudan in the nearest future? and i think u took that nuclear line out of context. the ability to do such things on ur own would mean you've grown in other areas of science and technology, which unfortunately no african country or negro nation is yet to show such know how. a lot of the things u rely on for survival or to compete on the global stage, u cannot produce. so how are u going to make progress? i don't see it coming anytime soon no matter how culturally cohesive u divide a nation up.

and also, how is somalia fairing? they are culturally cohesive with one language and religion. why have they not progressed?

i think you are still saying the same thing. you’ve been on this forum long enough to know that there are groups of people who feel they are in their present condition because they were merged with other groups of people they have nothing in common with from language to religion, and until they are separated to have that cultural cohesion/consciousness to make progress at their own pace, nigeria will not make any significant progress as a nation.

so in order for such people make progress, you have to first give them that identity that will make them "nation build" and that will mean breaking these nations in Africa as they are today to be culturally cohesive in order to have the soul and consciousness you are alluding to – then before you can start talking about working together as the same racial group of people to compete on the global stage.

what im saying is that if you are thinking identity/consciousness is the problem, then you have to start from the bottom – up, not from the middle – up, because nigeria is the “middle” and not a creation of nigerians or africans or the black racial group.

i honestly dont think identity is the problem but if thats what u believe is the root-cause of the problem, then i guess many african countries including nigeria should be dismantled for people to have the identity that will make them "nation build", biafra?

and dismantling nigeria is not going to come at the stroke of a pen. and i guess that defeats the whole "african solidarity" of the thread, which like a said initially was just a bunch of whines. see u around.

shymexx: However, Europe had to create an identity for itself through religion/culture(Christianity) and that was how the renaissance started. No matter how you look at it, everything they achieved today was built on Christianity. Without Christianity, I don't think there would have been anything like Western civilisation, to be honest.

For nation building and advancement to happen, you need identity/culture. And that identity/culture is what enhances your consciousness based on necessity within your community.

people who make technological advancement are usually not religious people. in fact, religious people are usually against technological advancement but when the technology becomes available and is practical, then religion can be used as a tool to unite people to use that technology for whatever purposes it serves. so christianity or no christianity, i think europe would still have advanced to the stage it is today coz they were technologically ready to move fwd.. christianity was just the available religion they had and they built around it.

Lmao @ developing a nuclear weapon. You need to win against the generational psychological warfare that has made your people empty, before you can start thinking about taking on world powers in a war of attrition. You can use China as a case study - and how Chairman was able to turn China around, by creating a Chinese identity.

I'm not in the mood for long essays tonight, but you can google how Chairman Mao turned China around from poverty and emptiness - to where it's today.

but the chinese have nukes tho, abi?

and i used developing nuclear weapons as an example because it is technological advancement that builds a people. so it could be any other thing ranging from computers to what have u

and how was china turned around? by embracing chopsticks and noodles?

shymexx: ^^^Using your culture(s) and tradition(s) to guide your consciousness albeit you've to bring it to the 21st century... With that, you'll be able to create an identity for yourselves; know what you want; and what path to take to get there. Right now, we're just everywhere like headless chickens...

If I may ask; what's the Nigerian/African identity? Europe has an identity, America has an identity, China has an identity, Russia has an identity, Iran has an identity, and even the Brazilians had to create an identity for themselves by fusing all the cultures in that country.

culture is a way of life and african/nigerian indigenous cultures were not technologically advanced enough to resist foreign dominance. technology is what advances a society and religion unites them. and unfortunately those two things you (africans) are not in control of or advancing.

europe was a considered a dark continent until it had the technology advance to the shores of africa and took control of the land and its people. so no matter how hard u hug ur culture without making technological advancement independently, ur predicament will not change and always be at the receiving end.

and it is not about identity but about how seriously that identity is taken. so instead of all these essays, for example, if nigerians or any black african country is able to develop a nuclear weapon they can launch from their country independently and will land anywhere in the americas or europe, then lets see if the world will not start taking negroes seriously. and when u tell them shango or ogun is the real son of god, they might believe when their existence is under threat.

Africa will continue to be the dark continent - until we go back to our roots and use methods that worked for us in the past albeit in a way to make fit properly into 21st century.

in what ways, pls.

odumchi: No replies?

lol, coz no one cares about ur whines, cry for help, and kumbayah ish.

the world is tuff place, suck it up!

to the left, to the left....

[quote author=*Kails*][/quote]the video girl is a 10. something u are not.

now, u walk on!

[quote author=*Kails*]Walk on.[/quote]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtgWFBw96xg

btch.

[quote author=*Kails*]i know say it nor be by force to stay but still.[/quote]fixed. there is no "it" in pidgin English.

whiners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zH9wHWMi_k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4cmzgdjcJw

wa kpe obo ne

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somalia5: no thanks, i just got oral a few hours ago.

and i hope u got that bucktooth fixed.

PhysicsQED: And I didn't get the 'Abd Al-Abdulla' joke. What was that about?

i think the joke is the name is laced with "abd" the arab name for slave

Stranglehold: Everyone throughout history was blinded by religion...Your point? At least Mansa Musa was not doing any witch hunts like the Europeans, which even lasted in the Americas. At least he didn't destroy civilizations like Aztec which the Europeans thought of as 'unholy'. At least Mansa unlike European kings, didn't kill anyone who was a 'non believer'. That's what I call blinded by religion.

what you call witch hunting made europe great and they are still enjoying the benefits till date. and arabs/muslims have destroyed more civilizations than any other group of people. just look at what they have turned africans to in northern nigeria. muslims and boko haram do not even give christian a breathing space not to talk of the pagans amongst them who want to stick to indigenous culture. look, im not against religion but im against people who are overly religious because that religion may blind them from using a lot of opportunities that may come their way. musa was a conqueror and is the richest gatdam human to ever grace planet earth and i don't see anybody taking that spot from him at least not in the next 100 yrs. but what did he do with all that wealth outside his immediate environment of west africa? apart from a trip to mecca and a spending spree in egypt and god knows where else. damn, dem negroes were making it rain in egypt back in the days.

And you got it backs. Mansa was not eagered to learn from OTHER Muslims. Other Muslims were eagered to LEARN FROM HIM! Since Timbuktu at that time had the most advanced universities in the Islam world!

so what was the purpose of his pilgrimage to mecca? and im talking about today. it is those same universities abi na mosques that current muslims are gradually destroying. so why are they not earger to learn from the oldest universities abi na mosques from the islamic world, but instead they are tearing it down?

lol..i found it on youtube. and it is from anambra


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgEfrF4_3yg

there was this worm-like masquerade that comes out of a flat box and rise well over 10 feet. i don’t know what part of Nigeria that masquerade was from but it was on TV back then and i have seen it live my own two eyes. before the masquerade comes out, the handlers will slaughter a native fowl and then shoot a gun into the sky and then open the box, and the masquerade will rise out of the box and start dancing and performing. then it comes to a point when the masquerade will become completely flat on the ground and the handlers will sit on it. then it will rise again and start performing. and after performance, the masquerade will fold back into the flat box and the handlers will carry the box away. illusion or no illusion, that worm-like masquerade was quite fascinating to watch back then. too bad i cant find it on youtube tho but it should be in NTA benin archives.

[quote author=Texas.Cowgirl]What's your tribe: Yoruba

Period.[/quote]you too like boju-boju matter.

pleep: ... rebels are destroying parts of the ancient mosques.

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musa was blinded by religion and was earger to learn from other muslims who are not eager to learn from him.

them rebels who are muslims btw, do not give a shyte about islam but only want one thing... otor

so the ancient mosque gats to go... no time!

interesting thread. and i understand the point of view of the op.

an army of 60,000 able-bodied men is a bit too much to transport across the sahara solely for religious purposes and not a military expedition. i guess nothing blinds the negro more than religion.

violent: --

lol, see sermon.

@op, posting of personal pics is the new trend on nairaland. so when are we going to see ur own? instead of these google pictures. biko, we are waiting for ur pics.

the party never start, thats why.

GotNoBrainsYo: So you think the Sultan of Sokoto, will carry his Shokoto and go and wait for HRH. Or that the Shehu of Borno
will go and wait for HRH at an airport without royal aides?
Please let me hear word. The Oba denigrated his Office as far as I am concerned. Carry GO!

so because the oba did not behave the way you would approve, means he "denigrated his office?" as if everybody must behave the same. i dont understand u people, always looking for some ignorant shyte to say. abeg carry ur wahala go front jor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J43T8rEOg-I