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truthman2012:
So, to you, Muhammad's contributions are good for humanity. If not for him there would have been no ISIL, Book Haram, Al-Shabab, Al-Queada etc.

What have you contributed to the world yourself? So by implication you are next to Muhammad in being the world's problem because you are a supporter of his evil deed.

The evil deed was the 3.5 million Nigerians exported to the new lands , where 14 million natives were killed to make space by euro centric xtians. Even given slave ships names like Jesus.

Then they colonized African lands. Then they colonized African minds.

And today we got euro centric house niggaz uncle toms etc apologizing for the xtian crackas That messed up yo

I'm feeling a seed of doubt sown in me with regards to tithe being legit, as I'm told by Christians that they DON'T follow the OT.

Pretty sad hundreds of thousands died in Irak cos Jesus told blair n bush to kill iraki women n children

Both George Bush & Tony Blair said they were inspired / told to invade Irak, by Jesus. Christians tell me Jesus is thier God.

How many dead from this Jesus inspired war 5000000 - 1000000? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bush-god-told-me-to-invade-iraq-317805.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-467175/Tony-Blair-talked-God-Iraq.html

Does this mean cos Christians don't follow OT , there is no need to tithe ?

Daesh , al shabab , boko haram etc. Are disgusting barbarians. Hate them so much.

CHEUARIN:
Hi my friend Facheux, did you go through my post? You better swallow pride and accept Jesus before it is too late.

Many have inevitably embraced Jesus Christ as they hitherto fought like Saul (who was arrested by Jesus Himself and transformed to Paul).

Reference recent horrible events in Northern Iraq, where demonic agents are defending a certain satanic religion, quoting verses in their book to support and promote evil...Today, many have simply believed in the Truth...Jesus is Lord forever...the devil knows and believes too (Acts 19:15).

Also kindly note that Jesus does not need the irrelevant repetition of 'peace be unto him'. Vainly doing that insinuates that Jesus needs peace...that is fallacy...How can the owner of a property...the Prince of Peace, be lacking His possession? He (Jesus) is Peace and has it in abundance (Isaiah 9:6; John 14;27; Hebrews 13:20; Philippians 4: 6 - 9). Jesus said clearly He was going back to the Father and ascended, as prophesied (John 14:28; John 16: 5 -15).

Anyone in need of peace is either in Hell or headed there or perhaps does not know how to obtain peace...the peace prayed daily for thousands for years on some people (dead and alive) is sheer wastage if they are in Hell...there is no peace for the wicked in Hell.

Don't worry, the Holy Spirit is in action and soonest you will testify and no devil will threaten you with death for surrendering to Jesus Christ...

I am a Christian from Heaven and surely headed back there...Thank You Jesus.

Still I ask you, was it Jesus peace be upon him, that outlined how to beat your slave?

asalimpo:
Everyman has this singular choice to make on earth. What to do with Jesus.
I hope you,atheists,wont blame God for rejecting His offer of a Substitute for your sins. You've had a life time to make your choice. If you choose to die in your sins,blame yourself.

Was it Jesus peace be upon him that gave instruction on etiquette of slave beating?

CHEUARIN:
From Matthew 5:17, Jesus declared clearly that he is the unification of the Old and New Testaments...He came as God in Human Flesh, as prophesied (Isaiah 9:6), to fulfil the Law and the Prophets.

Forever, the Word of God is settled...no addition and no subtraction...from Genesis to Revelation...

Tithing was, is and will continue to be a doctrine, instituted and upheld by God (Jesus), in every True Church of the Living God.

Note: For every original, there is a fake/counterfeit...There are fake preaches everywhere, as prophesied, that front for the devil, their master and also fake believers/members...Whoever preaches/teaches will sort it out with his Manufacturer (God) in the hereafter...

Simple...

I am a Christian from Heaven and surely going back there....Thank you Jesus.

Can you clarify please for me. Are Christians to follow the OT

I'm told by Christians they do not follow Old Testament. I'm curious about tithe & New Testament. I admit being somewhat ignorant on this subject,


All I could find was Matthew 23:23:

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

My take on this. I admit some ignorance here but here it is:

I Noticed Jesus peace be upon him said, "You should have practiced the latter (justice, mercy and faithfulness), without neglecting the former (tithing)." The fathers argued, that Jesus peace be upon him, word ends the discussion? Since Jesus peace be upon him said not to neglect the former—being tithing

Are Jesus peace be upon him words not applicable to Christians today, because Jesus peace be upon him was under the Law and spoke to those under the Law?

Is Jesus peace be upon him giving an instruction to the Jews so His words are not binding to Christians today?

Please correct me if I missed something or interpreted incorrectly.

asalimpo:
speaking out of point,as usual.
The post is about islam but your rabid tongue just help taking a stab at Jesus! Control yaself and stay on topic.

Straight up house nigga you is . Your minds still in a plantation state. Apologizing for the xtian euro crackers that enslaved raped n pillaged nigeria and all of africa

asalimpo:
At least from those slaves something good came out of the black race. Left in Africa,they'd have wallowed in idol worship, and cannibalism.

When you see a black successful american, thank the slave traders.

Today, you'd snatch up a u.s visa in a jiffy,if offered one.
We queue up at american and western embassies for a chance to go be slaves in well run countries again.

What good has come out of islam?

Another euro centric house nigga. You'd be licking the crackers boot eh

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parisbookaddict:
Abo.ki what does Islamic religious violence have to do with the Trans Atlantic slave trade.

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Another euro centric house nigga uncle toms be everywhere

What about the 3.5 million Nigerians exported during the crusaders slave trade. And who knows how many Nigerians killed by these Christo fascist slavers.

Source: US Library Of Congress
http://countrystudies.us/nigeria/7.htm

Annunaki:
Yes we know your objective is to deceive kaffirs that muslims treat women well whilst the contrary is the reality.

I treat my wife with utmost respect and love. For I will held to account for my actions towards her. Her feelings and well being are of prime importance to me.

I can never accept Jesus peace be upon him , is the Creator. Nor can I accept God has children. There is only one God without partner , without rival, and does not have children. That is the most important thing ever.

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Annunaki:
Hitler comes far behind mohammed in terms of negative influence.

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That's a douchy comment even for you.

mustymatic:
it was the same wine that, according to the Christian bible, enabled the daughters of Lot to seduce their father (Genesis 19:32-33), it was the same wine which the Christian is advised to eschew in Ephesians 5:18- "and be not drunk with wine...".

That's just straight up disrespect for Lut peace be upon him the Bible claiming this

"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62.

"...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).

promisechuks:
Pertaining to salvation and righteousness of God, no amount of right living can give earn it, that's why it's freely given. And you know what? You can't maintain it by works/right living. Your right living/righteousness CAN NEVER maintain what your righteousness couldn't earn . If you are controversial with this put forward any single bible verse to disprove it for proper analysis.


As regards to this verse, we have to explain it, not based on what we think, imagination and tendencies, but on the basis of the FULL knowledge of the one sure foundation provided by God, christ finished work.

There are differences between works of flesh, works of righteousness(self righteousness)and works of salvation. Works of salvation is simply know as our ACHIEVEMENT made by utilising the grace of God. Example; "you won 10000 soul to christ", "you helped 100 poor kids through scholarship", labouring abundantly to express God's love to people around you either by spreading the Gospel or any other grace-empowered way. Another example; Microsoft is accounted unto bill gate as a work of salvation because of the grace of God, if he believes, these works are not restricted to winning souls, no!


Another example: No man will remember kenneth hagin for his work of righteousness/right living, but for sure he will be remembered for his works of salvation which may include; his write-ups, books, video tapes, crusade events, the healing power of God demonstrated by him and many more. You got it?

More example? Yes! from the scriptures. 1cor.15vs10; but by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I LABOURED(work of salvation not works of righteousness/right living) MORE ABUNDANTLY THAN THEY ALL; yet not I but the grace of God which with me."

"......more abundantly than they all", you don't measure right living but you measure works of salvation because they are your achievement made recognisable before God by grace. In that statement paul used "more...than", because he was speaking in comparison to the works of other believers who had lesser works/achievement by grace than his works and achievements by grace.

With the understanding of what I have explained, read that 1cor.3:1-end to understand the full revelation there. Because the entire chapter is talking about works of salvation.


That chapter is an UNVEILING OF THE MYSTRIES BEHIND THE PARABLES OF THE TEN TALENT, because jesus would have said those things in the first place, but because they(jews) were too carnal, he spoke to them in parables. Remember, at a point he said something like "I have many things to tell you, but the problem is that you lack the power to comprehend it" and he started to talk about the spirit of truth that will be sent to help the church understand the revelation he will be bringing forth into the church through vessels like paul, peter, john e.t.c.


Now, according to the parable, we have been given the grace(talent) freely as a GIFT of righteousness(eternal life) to first of all, make us FREELY justified, with NO DEMAND of right living. If controversial, I challenge you to refute it with BIBILICAL verse and not imaginary thoughts or experiences for proper analysis.

And secondly, to empower us, not only to live rightly, but also to achieve greater achievement and works, either in soul winning or promoting the lives of people around us for the kingdom of God. These are main few purpose of grace(talent), especially for our justification, for us.


Now that verse you quoted 1cor.3:14-15 says;"14. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he SHALL RECEIVED A REWARD. 15.If any man's work shall be burned, HE SHALL SUFFER LOSS: BUT HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED; yet so as by fire."

Deduction: in vs 14;".....SHALL RECEIVE A REWARD"
Q&A: Reward for what? For right living? No! You don't build right living because right living cannot be seen as achievement. For works of salvation/achievements in grace? Yes! You build achievement in grace/works of salvation.

Q&A: What is the reward for our works of salvation as expressed in the above verse according to paul?

Now see this, we have gift and reward, this two things are totally different but confuse people a lot.
Gift is for free, no work. Reward is not for free, a work MUST be involved as the MERIT of the reward.

When you believe in christ, you are given a GIFT of eternal life(that grants you heaven), when you utilise the grace of God properly, to achieve your works of salvation for the kingdom of God, you are rewarded afterlife with, what the bible calls, a CROWN OF VICTORY.

Eternal life is a GIFT but crown of victory is a REWARD which is administered based on your accomplished works/achievements of a believer for the kingdom.


As regards to 1cor.3:15, SUFFERING LOSS, doesn't mean a denial of eternal life but a denial of crown(hope of glory). It's a loss because your works, not matter how many years you have been in the lord since you are unserious to labour for the kingdom works, will be considered vain. So paul was not talking about the sins of a believer that has being dealt with, forgiven and forgotten about at the cross heb.10:17.

At the judgement day, we, who believe(not just know, but really believe) in the finished work of christ, will not be judged of our faults, imperfection, sins and mistakes, because it was judged and condemned to death on the body of christ at the cross. And through that sacrifice, we have been made NON GUILTY OF THE SINS AND MISTAKES WE COMMITTED.

So, our judgement will be based on our works of salvation/achievement. The only kind of Judgement that will be passed on believers is the kind expressed in 1cor.3:1-end, and not judgement of sin, because we have been made innocent by christ's payment. There is no sense in judging an innocent man.


But in the case of unbelievers, they are judge of their sins, because they didn't accept the man that was judged and condemned to death for their sins, so they have to pay for their sins with their own life which is by death.


Let me stop here.

No one died for my sins. I will be judged for my sins and non sinful actions & held to account.

Many a xtian have told me Jesus peace be upon him is God

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parisbookaddict:
It difficult keeping up with all the women Mohammed raped or slept with.. I meant to say Sophia, the slave girl he was sleeping with and his wives got angry.. Not Mary the cost..

Demmzy15 if u decide to remain vulgar and rude I will start ignoring ur mentions..

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You take more garbage then a 419er

If Jesus peace be upon him is God as xtians tell me, why did he want the women raped and the littl ones killed

I notice many xtians tell me Jesus peace be upon him is God. I'm wondering if Jesus peace be upon him is indeed God why ordering pregnant women's stomachs ripped open .

openmine:
Its important to take a holistically view of that verse....its also important that you understand who God is and his virtues,den relate it to wat is written by the prophet Hosea.....remember the spirit of the prophets are subject to the prophets 1 Cor 14:32...hence a prophet may misrepresent a statement from God....Or misquote his intents.....

Same misrepresentation took place in the old testament where micah misquoted or misrepresented God's intention towards king ahab by wrongfully saying that God had sent a lying spirit to deceive the prophets in support of king ahab...

same thing is happening today in our generation where some pastors misrepresent and misquote the scriptures just to suit their selfish agenda...

Thats the very reason why God now speaks tru his son jesus christ and no longer the prophets...hebrews 1:1

Question...
Have you found out the nature of God?
From you research in the bible,do you think God is a ruthless killer?

Its important we have a contextual view of the scripture in order not to paint God as a ruthless killer

No I don't believe Allah is a ruthless killer. But I do believe the lying pen of the scribes have altered the Bible.

I noticed in Bible God has sons by the tons. Even satan and his companions were sons of God.

Job 1:6

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

Job 2:1

Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.

Some degenerates get thier panties in a bunch cos I quoted the Bible.

Suck it up buttercup.

eyeview:
Youngman,as you are a fool,if I say because you have become a fool and departed from wisdom,which makes you unfit to excel among wise people in your class,does it mean that I have ordered that any human should fail you in your class?
Try and tell that demon that is trying to stir an anti-christ in you to go and call its elder brothers cos its a small one that presents fallacies and herecies that can easily be flawed

Don't blame me iam only quoting the Bible! Xtians often tell me Jesus peace be upon him is God.

stonemasonn:
Jesus is not the "god" that ordered such violence

So is he a different god? Or a messenger of God