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I thought Rohr is intelligent |
[quote author=Joebie post=68008660]That's why I've been asking questions. Nwakali in top 35 is a no no.. These players have to earn their ratings based on club performance.. Now more questions, was Usman, Eduok and the other two also in the top 35? Rohr definitely has some sentimental people around him. [/quote I think we are reading too much meanings into Rhor's response to d press about Nwakali. This man is very diplomatic in responding to questions and u must be on d same page to understand some of his comments. Firstly Rhor did not invite d team B against A.madrid but Salusi did. All d players that are in Rhor's WC program has been invited at one point and some got dropped along d line including promising players like Chidi Nwakali, Victor Oshimen, Musa Mohamed, Emma Daniel etc. D newest inclusions to d team are d ones that performed extremely well towards d end of d season and Nwakali did not fall into that Category. So l believe that Rhor was trying to claim a vast knowledge of Nigerian players, but having untested and unproven player in his 35man list that should be submitted to Fifa for WC can not be a reality from a conservative coach like Rhor. This man has been fair in selecting our best legs. He has listening ear to recommendations but he knows exactly what he want in a player and does not need many games to identify a player with d quality he needs. Lets support this team |
Neimar:But this thread is for SE supporters. Now respect yourself and leave. We already have difficulties arguing with negative supporters everyday so pls dont add to d distraction. WC is around d corner and we only need constructive analysis of d selected players and d team in general. |
I sympathize with Simon Moses. He really deserve to be in Russia. Maybe his enemies and those journalists writing trash about him should be satisfied now. Meanwhile Etebo should be his best replacement for d LW position for now. Etebo played d LW position at d Olympics and was very dangerous there. He has no business in d middle of d field for d SE, LW should be d best position to utilize his energy, defensive n attacking abilities. But if we need a winger that offers something different, then Onyekuru should be invited if he's fully fit. As for Musa, we know he cant start any match, we also know he cant make any positive difference from d bench yet nobody is talking about dropping him. |
komekn:Is any one still doubting that this guy is the same Forgiveness? |
Some people are just seeking for argument attention but it seems every is busy |
Nobody should talk down on Kayode's potential because of Forgiveness. Majority of us here were disappointed that he didnt make the list. Personally i felt for him and Onyekuru because they really fought hard to make it but Nigeria has many options in the attacking department. We must recommend Rhor for helping our players (bench warmers) change to new clubs and get game time before now. We must also commend him for selecting the best we have without favouritism. This is d fairest selection we've had in a long while and we should all drop sentiments and support this team. I am only afraid that about 5 of our players are still injured or recuperating few days to the world cup. Balogoun, Ndidi, Ebuehi, Joel Obi and Etebo. l therefore call on all SE fans to remember this players in their prayers that God would grant them a speedy recovery. |
Everybody talking about Musa and nobody even mention Sylvester Igboun who also scored and assisted a goal in d same league today. This guy is really a quality player that shud be in SE first eleven. Better than any winger we have except Victor Moses. I wish someone in NFF should put away sentiments and watch this guy closely. |
And Simy scores again. This guy should not confuse Rhor, Kayode has been selected |
[quote author=Kog45 post=67502763]My 23 man list Goalkeeper 1.Daniel Akpeyi 2.Ikechuckwu Ezenwa 3.Francis Uzoho Defender 4.Leon Balogun 5.Ekong Troost 6.Kenneth Omeruo 7.Chiedozie Awaziem 8.Shehu Abdullahi 9.Bryan Idowu 10.Ebuehi Tyronne 11.Ola Aina Midfielder 12.Mikel Obi 13.Wilfred Ndidi 14.Ogenyi Onazi 15.John Ogu 16.Oge Etebo Attacker 17.Victor Moses 18.Odion Ighalo 19.Kelechi Iheanacho 20.Alex Iwobi 21. Simeon Moses 22.Ahmed Musa 23.Kayode Olarewaju.[/quote Likely d final team list, though I wish it includes Joel Obi and Henry Onyekuru. Kayode is a better asset than Musa as he can also operate from d frank but i dont see Rhor droping Musa. |
Silver Igboun with an assist for FC Ufa |
kentebemoney:Your point is very clear and understandable. Being d same kind of player does not mean being in d same class. Again we should stop berating a player because of d league or club he plays. Its good to play in a big club but not every player has d opportunity. There are Nigerian players that are better than Dembele that didnt make it to Europe. If a player like lwobi is not related to Okocha and plays for a lower league like Israel am sure he wont be anywhere near SE. |
If you can not drive your interest without making your tribal sentiments obvious to everybody, then you maybe educated but definitely not intelligent. Is the NFF chairman an igbo man? Is his vice (Akunwumi) an igbo man? Is our coach or his vice an igbo man? What is the insecurity all about? What if the coach or the NFF chairman happens to be igbo? That we ignore some of these comments for peace to reign should not give some people the sole ticket to tribal e-warrior here. Everybody here belongs to a tribe but SE is not a team of tribe representatives. Let everybody respect himself here |
forgiveness:Why are u not berating Simon Moses in your quest to promote Olayinka? Is Onyekuru and Kalu the only Nigerian strikers in Belgium? Do u actually think everybody here is stupid? |
I watched fc Ufa vs CSKA and Sylvester Igboun was actually the player that caught my attention instead of Musa. Am surprised that nobody is talking about that guy here. This guy is very fast, strong, dribbles past defenders with ease, crosses ball well and can shoot with both legs. I think this guy can be another version of VM from the wing And it wont be bad if he's invited among 35 man list to fight for a shirt. he's definitely better than most wingers we parade now. |
Martz101:There you go again. Igbo people influence some part of Rivers. I think you are actually misunderstanding Tribe for state. The indigenous people has lived so many years before the creation of states, the creation of states by the Military Government divides tribes into different states thereby causing a lot of identity crisis in Nigeria today. Are you surprised that there are Igala speaking tribe in Anambra state today? Please dont misunderstand states as boundary for tribes. |
Martz101:Bro i think you're actually d cause of this debate. How is Olisaeburuwa a Benin word? That imo and abia people dont use d word does not make it a borrowed word. Igbo dialects, cultures and gods differs. You can tell which part of igboland someone is from by his attire and secondly by his dialect and I beleive all these dialects are influenced by d language of their neighbouring tribes, its just vice versa. So dont tell me the tribes that influenced igbo without telling me how igbo influenced them. |
ChrisKels:You are very correct. Osayi is a very common name with Okija people but normally a nickname for names like Samuel and Simon. |
The moment l read this news i knew it was agent fighting another agent. Tony Harris wont be unconnected to this rumour because of his failure to impose his players on Rohr d way he did with Keshi, hence he believed that any other agent that is favoured must have played d corrupt game he used to play. However, we must monitor all the players that are indicted in this rumour and cry out against any of them that does not merit a call up. forgiveness: |
tbaba1234:Nobody can argue that bro But i vindicated myself when i said except for a special talent. So any player u can mention falls into that category lol. Meanwhile I mentioned Serbia as one of d teams that is parading matured players not really because we lost to them. However, l can argue that if we had to play Serbia again with d same squad, they will beat us over and over again. |
tbaba1234:Which argument are u talking abt. I said "left for me" meaning if am in control of things that the best age for WC shud b 24 n above....You also repeated what I said that the mixture of youth and experience would give us d balance we need. |
This issue of our players age debate should be checkmated. Whenever d age of our player is mentioned there's always a debate of d player being Older than his age. Criticising the form of a player is part of d game but we should stop embarrassing them to the outside world because many foreigners and journalists visits this thread. Pls lets take the right attitude to protect our image that has been so wonderful. For me, the right age for WC should be 24 and above, except for a special talent like Mbape. Any average player below 24 should be playing in U23 competitions, Team B, Olympics and stuffs like that. Check out d age bracket of d Brazilian team that beat Germany in their last friendly match, check out the age bracket of the Serbian team that just beat us, their age bracket is between 25-32 and that should be d right age for WC. There wont be any trophy for parading d youngest team In Russia, experience and Youth should be mixed to give us the right balance. Look at how ordinary our team looks whenever Mikel is not playing, this same Mikel would find it difficult to make the first team of other teams going to d WC. Also this so much emphasis on league than players performance is nonsense. I just watched Torino vs Inter and I can tell that some Belgian teams can comfortably beat any of those Italian teams. We are one country that lacks what we have in abundance. We have good players in lower ranked leagues across Europe but we will ignore them and start pursuing small small boys that are still learning d rudiments of d game just because they are born abroad. As for u guys that are bent to display tribal sentiments on this thread, just the same way the Nigerian presidency from one region has not make that region better than other regions. Likewise, having the majority of our team from one region can not make that region better than others. If we can defend Nigeria the way we defend tribe, i can tell that we can rebuild d image of this country by ourselves. |
Is this highlight your only reason for calling him a finished product? Then show me the great keeper that has not conceeded a worst goal. Enyeama? Buffon? De gea? Neuer? GKs they say gets better with age so lets support or criticise based on current form. tbaba1234: |
Obafemi Martins with a hatrick Aaron Samuel with a brace Sone Aluko with a goal. Forgiveness just told his clients not to fall his hand and they are really working hard to support his ministry. Meanwhile d clamour for invitation of new players has just began and we are expecting more |
forgiveness:If we are looking for experience, Ejide is more experienced than Ayenugba. That he was inactive for a season does not cancel d fact that he is active and in form now. Playing in 2nd division should not be an issue afterall Ayenugba was also in 2nd division 2 seasons ago. If being in 2nd division is equal to poor quality then u should stop clamouring for Championship players and dont forget that Uzoho is in 3rd division. That we are saving for tomorow does not mean we should starve to death today. Fifa will not give us any trophy for parading d youngest team in d mundial, we must mix experience and youthfulness to get d needed balance. Ejide's club is on d verge of gaining promotion and he has been one of their standout player. He has years of experience in d Nigerian league, Tunisian league, French league, Israeli league and National team. In addition to his experience, He has good height and composure that could instill confidence in our defenders. I am not actually suggesting players to a coach that understands d game much more than me, but what am saying that if need be, Ejide would be d best option to fall back on. |
I didnt watch d match against Serbia live, so I was not under any pressure when i watched d replay and my observations are as follows; 1. Serbians has size and physical fitness advantage over us. (You will always struggle when challenging someone bigger than you. E.G d disallowed goal. Awazie was struggling to stop d player from heading d ball but d player was taller and stronger than him) Advise- We shud not go into physical battle with a team physically stronger than us. Imagine playing 3 DM/Tacklers (Ndidi, Onazi n joel) in such match, u dont expect such match to be free flowing and entertaining. Winning such match can only be by a slim chance as d case of Poland. We must approach such game with a different formation n tactics to outsmart them like our 2nd half approach against Argentina. 2. The Selection. I think d choice of Onazi in front of Awazie is wrong. Onazi is a kind of tackler that moves to wherever ball is available thereby leaving lots of space behind, In any case he misplaces passing, the opponent utilizes d space he left thereby exposing Awazie who is not experienced enough to handle such pressure. Advise- We should have a commanding CBs that would always call d DM to order or shout on another player to fall back whenever d DM is caught out of position. As for Onazi I think he should be coming in as a late subtitute for maybe a striker whenever we are defending a goal. 3. There are many areas to improve in this team before WC, so i wont be surprised to see any of these players gatecrash d team. 1-Sareren bazee. GR will like to use d NT success of these German breeds to lure others. 2- Isaac Success. GR likes him. If his form picks, he has edge over Musa and Simon. He can be another version of VM on d left. 3-Austin Ejide. He is d best option to fall back on. He has d experience. No issue with NFF like Enyeama and he has no terrible past working against him like DeleAyenugba. 4-Chinedu Obasi. His move to Bolton is simply to showcase his quality to avoid criticism when invited. He is eager to start playing and we all know what he can do. So dont be surprises that after 2 matches d call for his invitation will start (maybe Mikel's Connection). 5-Onyekuru. This guy wants this WC more than others, its d easiest way for him to return to Everton and so he can do anything to prove himself. If he recovers on time, he will definitely work harder than ever n increase d fan's call for his inclusion. This remaining 2 months will be very intense for players fighting to be recorgnized and others fighting to retain their place in d team. My prayer is that non of them will be injured and d injured ones would recover quickly. |
I doubt that Komekn is a different person from Forgiveness. I took time to read their messages, they have one common interest no matter how much they try to cover it. The tone of their messages and argument is the same. Always on opposition side of every single topic. Always expressing a mindset of insecurity and inferiority complex. Always presenting statistics to pull one player down in promotion of another. Always responding to every comment with questions like " where did u hear me say.....? Answer me this that YES or NO? All these similarities cant be coincidence. But it will be a big shame if its actually one person that is misusing his talent and time to cause nuisance on this beautiful thread. We should not over emphasize on the importance of comments on nairaland. If Rohr have time to read all these comments, l can bet u that he can never be successful (Those that make news dont really have time to read news) We have a foreign coach that is giving us good results, lets all support this team and enjoy it while it lasts. If d sentiment of not having your favourite player overshadows d joy of d team victories, what will happen when d team looses? Taking some issues personal, arguing from morning till night and starting all over again tomorrow might indirectly affect our reasoning and emotional life for nothing. Too much of anything is bad. Happy new week to everyone. |
Akpeyi is not a good goalkeeper and can never give what he dont have. Siasia brought him as one of d overaged players in Olympic and d poor Emmanuel Daniel still benched him. I watched d match against Colombia live in sao paulo and I can say that Akpeyi's performance affected d whole team because everybody panics whenever ball is coming towards our post. He has been given enough time to redeem his image but its obvious he has nothing better to offer. I thought they said he's very solid GK for his club but all I see is d same Akpeyi. His continuous invitation is actually injustice to many other Goalkeepers who are praying for an opportunity. |
You have started again. You are actually attracting criticism to this young man. Pls allow Kayode to play this game n let his game speak for him. forgiveness: |
forgiveness:You argue everyday because you're devoid intelligence n sufficient points to win argument. I don't need to know u in person to know that you're not a successful person and u think everyone here is on d same page with u |
forgiveness:Drop d mentality if defending your own, our own is SE of Nigeria and not tribe. we are talking about Nigerian football here and Nigeria is not made up of 2 tribes. Talk of defending my own, i personally prefer Kayode to Nacho due to my love for pressing strikers. I hate to see Nacho make those elementary first touches that puts his team under pressure whenever he loses d ball. But we have a foreign coach that has invited both of them to camp n observe them closely n choose who he feels that suits his game plan. Pls lets support d coach n respect his decisions. If others start making list of their favorite players that should be invited based on performance u will find out that u dont have anybody. U complained when your favorite player is not invited and when he is invited you complain that he is not given a chance. Then i asked myself was d player not given a chance to train with d rest of d team? Note that there are over 50 Nigerian players doing well abroad that has not been invited, some were invited n dropped (Imoh, Esiti, Aaron samuel, Alampasu etc, while some that are always invited are still waiting for an opportunity e.g Ogu, ebuehi, Agbo etc. You dont even mind if Musa is invited but u dont want to hear that name Nacho, Nwakeme, Onyekuru etc. Bro with all due respect, i will advise u to drop hate for a tribe because u cant beat it. Free your heart from hate and stop hurting your emotion for something you cant change. I really wonder how you sleep and wake up with d same argument. This is 2018, I am sincerely expecting u to change and support our dear SE so u can celebrate and be happy with others when we will be winning in Russia. |
How old is this Forgiveness actually? I always regard his comments as one of those jobless youths that has made nairaland an uninteresting forum. People that has nothing positive to offer but only reasoning everthing through tribal perspective. Why has he refused to drop this particular topic of measuring n comparing yoruba players with their ibo counterparts? Is being better than ibo a yardstick of measuring success? I noticed that whenever he starts throwing a name of player around in his topics, people starts loosing interest in that player and d same player starts losing form E.g Aluko, Aina, Kayode, Raheem Lawal, Ajagun etc. I think its high time d real elders of this forum call him to order or ban him since he's not making any positive contribution but sowing d seed of division, running our players n coaches down, wishing our dear team failure just to prove a stupid point. I have been following this thread for a very long time, I am far away from home but this thread keeps me updated with everything happening in Nigerian football. It's my first time comment and I wish to appreciate u guys for ur insights, analysis n contributions to Nigerian football. Its d best of its kind n source to many foreigners and Nigerians in diaspora. Pls dont allow few individuals to kill our fun. Happy new year to you all. |
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