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Afrocatalyst:
Snails are nocturnal animals. Birds are opposite. Those that fly at night don't prey on them.

hmmm nice.

only honourable parents deserve honour. Unfortunately most parents are far from honourable. If parents did their job correctly at home society wont be filled with psychotic narcissistic self hating individuals.

Brap! OP that's a good initiative but how do you address the issue of birds swooping down from above and having a feast?

raypapy:
The infected ones is 30 and I av 100 birds
Thanks all

oh that's not bad. Well in that case i hope u have quarantined the 30 and vaccinated the 70. It shall be well.

op dont give up. I know how it feels because i have been there. I wish i could be of assistance. I am into grasscutter farming not poultry. I have experienced loss in this farming venture so i understand what u r goin through. Learn from your mistakes, do more research and training. Seek advise from experienced poultry farmers around your area and always remember that failure is a part of success. All the best bro.

omooba969:
The question is upon all ur madness, wot av u done to effect any changes concerning ur misguided grievances? In any sane society there must be order of which there must be subordinates who r subject to authorities. The argument u put up there lacks merit & those r rantings of a deluded mad man.

Ok they set d rules which we follow abi, then set ur own rules na. Ode, empty head feeling like he's got knowledge of wotz happening around. You need to get a life since u av no alternative means ok. My advice is dat u shud get busy rather than get bitter, get a job & calm ur nerves mumu.

lol clown. A typical nigga who is scared of contriving and effecting an alternative to the western paradigm. You cant even dare to think of the possibility because your mind has been intensively and extensively fvcked by the pale skin devil. You have been broken hence your docility and unconsciousness. Well here is a news flash; the western standard and model which you follow is not sustainable and it's about to crash so you clowns will eventualy be forced to face your fears and do what's necessary. That i choose to be generous with my time by attempting to enlighten you doesnt indicate joblessness. The pale skin devils(indoeuropeans) knocked us down and are holding us down but it's on us to break loose and rise from the ashess like the phoenix. Yes we can. Nigerians and every other nigga that identifies with western constructs is a clown and what do clowns do? they run circus shows just like the nigerian government. Oya clown on.

omooba969:
Your argument doesn't hold water. I wonder how you reason cos having to inadvertently blame the colonialists for your woes is really beyond me. I put this to you cos I know wot you are trying to imply.

I believe the colonialists put 9ja together for their own gain and it worked for them but since 9ja was handed over to us, what have we made of it? NOTHING! Guy keep that bitterness for your politicians ok.

Lastly, I noticed that you still use words like "colonial MASTER"--are they still your masters? You also proudly used the word "nigga" to address me, the same word we do not tolerate from your masters. I find it hard to understand your argument dummy

You simply show that your head is messed up & your slavery mentality coupled with misguided bitterness have afforded you with a warped mind. Wake up & DISCOVER yourself, rise above your bitterness f*cker !

You are a clown. you inherit a corrupt corperate entity from your colonial master and then proceed to sustain as is yet wonder why you couldnt make sense out of it. it's really funny how you lot are shouting change change change! what exactly are you clowns changing into? so having a better imitation of western political and economic models is your idea of change? i bet you also call yourself either a muslim or christian. Foreigners defined your whole reality and you accept it with pride.You should be ashamed of yourself nigga. In regards to the word nigga, yes it was a derogatory word used by the pale skin devil against us but we have turned it into a term of endearment and in the process keep it alive as a testament of survival. These days when someone speaks the truth clowns like you say they are bitter. whatever. And yes the pale skinned devil is still your colonial master because they set the rules of the game. You are just a pawn in the grand scheme of things. The dorminant global ideaologies which you follow like zombie where set by them.

omooba969:
I am compelled to believe that you are an animal in human skin. Who are the enemies here? And if you are unable to make known the enemy's definition of whom I am, you will have to go back to where you belong(the cave).

I doubt if you really understand the gravity of the words you typed up there cos your argument lacks substance & veracity.

Guy once again you are a nuisance !

your colonial master is your enemy. how, why and when did nigeria come about? did your ethnic group come into existence in 1914? nigga you are a nuisance unto thy self and your ancestors.

omooba969:
Another nuisance.

You accept your enemies definition of who you are. what exactly makes you a nigerian? my nigga you are a nuisance unto thy self.

otitookoro:
the presidency of this country will forever remain elusive to the igbos until the learn to respect the other tribes especially the Yoruba their elder brother. the presidency will continue to remain a mirage until the developed their shallow political pedigree and intelligence, stoop to learn political sagacity from their senior- the Yoruba. the igbos will keep dreaming of presidency till Jesus 2nd coming, if they cannot lay aside their fraudulent practices, hypocrisy, political stupidity and over bloated ego of aggrandizement and nonentity.I rest my case.

fvck your pesidency n1gga! your state is illegitimate.

damn you n1ggas still call yourselves nigerian? That's a slave name. Your "colonial masters" gave you that name. bunch of clowns!

Humulity:
Can I have your contact @fayahsoul am in Enugu, drop your number i will call.

Sorry i dont feel comfortable dropping my digits here but you can email me fayahsoul7@gmail.com

Inside a pen. look closely at the floor.

Cages.

adeblow:
please I need u to shed more light on this as regards the plan or front elevation and why shouldn't they have a passage way since they are to mate thanks. please I need a reply asap because the welder is starting to work. possibly pictures or a sketch I am using iron mesh for the cage

Since female grsscuttrs are induced ovulators, the continuos presence of a male among females could interfere with their ovulatory cycle. Only introduce the females to the male when they are ready to mate. Metal cages are expensive. If you havent started construction then i suggest you use a mix of wood and mesh wire but if you have started or prefer metal cage then make sure the mesh size isnt bigger than 1/2 x 1/2 inches so as to prevent new borns from falling through and also lay another smaller size mesh wire on the floor of the cage to prevent feed waste. Allow about 3-4inches of space between ground and floor of cage for collecting waste. I will try to post a pic.

adeblow:
I want to start with a family of 1male 4 females. what size of cage am I getting that will accommodate them adequately. please I need responses ASAP. plus anybody in abuja or nasarawa that can sell a family. thanks

Here is the cage dimension for a family:
height= 40cm, width= 60cm, lenght= 200cm and four partitions of 40cm with a passage way of abouth 15 x 15 cm. The partition separating the male from females shouldnt have a passage way. Be sure to use the right materials becos grasscutters gnaw on eveeything.

FarmTech:
Sensitivity to cold: bro, it u search for that you'll find it. I dont have time now I would have done that for you.
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Lol i dont need to search for what's right in front of me. Listen, oga stop imagining things. I will continue this discussion with you only if and when you actually start practicals. Anything short of that is an excercise in futility.

FarmTech:
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If I shud go back to my ebooks on rabbits and grasscutter, I'll get all those things u asked. Common sense will also tell u that if the rabbit/grasscutter head can pass through the mesh, then it is unsuitable for the cage. For feeding, u can use a manger, u dont place the feed on the floor bc they'll trample on it and soil it. This can cause disease problem and a lot of wasted feed bc they dont eat soiled feed. If there is problem with foot pad injury due to the floor, u can put a resting pad in the cages. Theory can answer all these questns and more - bc some theories are the experiences of practical farmers in writing, and those experiences contains the natural laws u talked about.
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A saying says that "if u want to hide sth from a black man, put it inside a book". Whoever said this know that it is either a black man will not read, or if he read he'll not believe what he read. So folks, I want to encourage everyone to be a believing and thinking reader.
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Both theory and natural laws (if our definition of natural law is the same) can be adjusted, eg, if ur climate is different from that of the writer, of course the house design and other things have to be adjusted, u may need to cover some sides in cold weathers bc grasscutter are sensitive to cold. The natural law wrt weather in both places are different.
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Revealing or concealing secrets can be a selfish act sometimes, but not at all times. Do you know what glut or oversupply can do to a bizness man? Well, if u discover a secret in bizness, go out and tell everyone. Then wait and expect to keep making profit for the next 4 years. A rich, single player can come in with economics of scale and wipe u out from the biz. I hope u'll understand me better here, I'm not trying to challenge u, but to point out facts we shud do right in order to succeed. U can fail in life if u look down on theory and tell ur farming secrets to everyone. Note: some farming tips are not worth hiding, but those ones that will threaten ur bizness when exposed are worth hiding.

This is exactly the problem. A theoretical grasscutter farmer is here lecturing a practical farmer. You really believe that your ebooks has taught you all you need to know about grasscutter farming. well good luck with that. Your ebooks says a "manger" should be used but you dont know how grasscutters eat. In your theoretical mind you think that they will eat from the "manger" like humans eat from a plate. Will you also put grass in a "manger?". Then you talk about resting pad; what exactly is that? what is it made of? pls explain further. Yes literature will tell you that grasscutters are sensitive to cold but does it tell you what the symptoms are? you cant know exactly how sensitive they are to cold unless you observe their response to it. It's quite amusing that you claim to have read far and wide yet you dont know what natural laws are and how they differ from theory. Quietly go and read up on that ok. You also seem to have difficulty with comprehension. Look, i'm not saying research is inconsequential rather i'm saying people shouldnt follow it like zombie. Dont swallow every thing you read hook, line and sinker. Be analytical and observant. The flaws in any given theory becomes apparent when it's being put to practice. na wa o.

FarmTech:
when I say mesh, I dont mean all those chicken mesh oo, i was refering the those ones with square holes and thick gauge. I'll like to say this again - theory is very important bc when u practice or experiment, you put it in writing and that's theory. If u know how to access the right info there will be no much gap b/w theory and practice. Like I said, read wide and deep, and read the right stuffs.
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And when it come to the part of keeping secrets and being selfish, I'll say that's not totally correct bc everyone and every bizness have their secrets, that's how u stay competitive and remain in bizness. Those secrets cost them sth b4 they could get it and it is not selfish to keep it.

ok but does your theory tell you the exact size of that square holed mesh wire that's suitable for use in cage construction? Does it tell you that is ok to construct all sides of the cage with said mesh wire? does it also say that grasscutters can lie comfortably on the mesh wire? does it mention any possible problems that the mesh wire could pose when it comes to feeding? nwanne like you rightly said; theory is based on observation which is acquired through practice or experiment and this goes back to what i have been saying all along. Only natural laws are constant and universal. Theory on the other hand can be adjusted and improved on through better practice and technology. Mind you grasscutter is not like goat or chicken or cow and so on that have been domesticated for millions of yrs. It hasnt been up to three decades since Grasscutter farming began and a lot is still not known about these interesting creatures. More, since you agree with me that most successfull practical farmers are unwilling to divulge their secrets then it should also be understood that the reason behind it is the desire to monopilize supply of goods. So if the drive to monopolize isnt driven by selfishness then do tell me what is. lol.

cbrass:
Is grasscutter marketable

yes of course but it's a delicacy. It's not as readily available as say poultry or beef because breeders are few hence supply is way below demand. Abi you no dey chop bush meat?

zleemshaddy:
thankz

lol. that's not true o. when one smokes weed for the first time u wont get high.

FarmTech:
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I understand bro. Another tip I'll like to give is that if u want to start sth and u dont have access to a practical farmer, then u must read a lot about it. Download volumes of pdf and sites and read them. From wot u read u write down further questions to do research on. I did the same when i was researching rabbits and grasscutters. My persistance reading helped me to come across documents that says that these animals will eat up wood. If u must use wood, use something like strong wire mesh or flattened tin cans to protect the woods.

lol. first of all it's difficult to find a practical farmer that will divulge all the secrets of his practice even when paid to do so. Yes humans are innately selfish like that. Secondly, you dont seem to understand that there is always a chasm between theory and practice; not to mention the contradictions in literature. I did a lot of research before starting my farm. I was also aware that grasscutters gnaw on wood like you stated hence the wood ought to be covered by mesh wire. In fact that was why my first cage was made of metal all through but still the grasscutters gnawed on it. And mind you there different types of mesh wire and certain types are suitable. So it's only through practice that the weakness of theory can be exposed and then reformulated to fit a farmers unique situation.

jasper7:
it's interesting that we make so many rookie errors in agriculture. I love to see myself as a rookie. some years back when I was running a big poultry farm in my house. it was a farm of very interesting boilers. I wanted to start packaging at 1KG and start distributing to hotels around my area. because I was already supplying them fish at that time. I spent alot of money building pens for them. It's actually a long story, but bottomline was that I ran into crisis, because my cost of production was by far higher than my sale price so I was running on a perpetual loss. I consulted a "professional farmer" on Nairaland. told him my problems and he proffered solutions. Do you know I took his words hook, line and sinker. because of the way he boasted here of the millions he has made from broilers. His "solution" put me into a bigger mess. till today, am still angry about the whole experience. it left a bitter taste in my mouth.

well, as it turns out. the so called professional, had no idea of what he was talking about. am not even sure he knows what a chicken looks like. because the advice he gave me, when I consulted experienced farmers, they said that all the things the guy told me are rubbish. on paper, it looks good. but practically, it's not feasible. that's when I discovered that the young man I have been hailing as a professional is actually an internet farmer, hungry to sell e-book. That's when I discovered that the real farmers don't have time to write e-book, because they are too busy developing virgin lands and breaking new grounds.

same applies, think about it. how many dangote's, adenuga's, bill gates or Carlos slim's of this world have written books on how to be a billionaire or how to run a successful business. None! who writes those books? poor men, who use those books to become billionaires. Look at Robert Kiyosaki (author of Rich Dad, Poor Dad). you'd be surprised that he declared bankruptcy about 3 years ago. but he's the biggest consultant on wealth in the world. How?

Put your mind to reason. if you want to learn about something. go to those who have succeeded in that thing abd observe them. do your own research and you are good to go.

Sorry for the loss but i advice that you expose the username of the "naira professional" that you are refering to so others wont fall victim.

FarmTech:
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While getting information from the internet, u have to mind the site you get them from. Read about the same topic from various sites and also consider the climate the writer is writing about. All these will help u to make necessary adjustment to suit ur particular situation. I must confess that in my practice as a poultry farmer, the internet have served me greatly and I'll advice every farmer to be a bookworm/internet worm. Combine that with information from offline sources and u'll make a great and unique farm. Also note that the level of ur understanding can influence how u interpret wot u read. That's why u shud write down the link of every source of information u get. Reading things u don't understand well for a second time or more can be very helpful.

My broda i'm not saying that internet resources are useless rather my point is that it's only through observing the happenings in the farm and then comparing and constrasting with the informate available on the net that the facts can be separated from fiction. For instance, the dimensions of the very first cage i built was based on what i read on the net. The dimensions were appropriate but the materials i used to construct it wasnt because i didnt take into consideration the powerful jaws of grasscutters which can be very destructive. They gnaw on every every. It's really remarkable. It was when i stocked the cages that i realized the inefficiency of the materials i used. So i had to start rectifying the problem and that cost me much. One irony i have noticed is that the best solutions to practical problems are usually also the simplest and cheapest. Happy new year my fellow farmers may we all reap bountifully this year. tanx.

Farmers learn on the job and making mistakes is not the issue rather it's how readily the problem is identified and tackled that matters. With practice, a farmer will realize that information derived from the internent is like a double edged sword because both fact and fiction are presented persuasively. Likewise seminars and e-manuals tend to be inadequate. I breed grasscutters and the greatest mistake i made was improper housing. The animal house didnt sufficiently protect the animals from cold of which grasscutters are extremely sensitive to. So a lot have died of pneumonia. A true farmer must learn to observe whateva plant or animal culture being grown. For it's through observation that the bulk of know-how is acquired.

Though i am into grasscutter farming i feel ur pain. Agriculture is a noble profession which demands endurance and courage but above all one needs exact knowledge on the dynamics of the animal or plant culture in question; without which failure is certain. Farmers study and apply natural laws. We aint gat time for fancy grammar. It's a hands-on stuff. Ignorance is dangerous.

The european isnt the only enemy of the black nation. The indo-europeans( caucasians, arabs and semites) are our enemy. The enslavement of the black african was a holocaust not a trade so it shall be addressed as such. The indo-european mastered the art of kidnapping; infact they turned it into a multinational industry. The question of traditional african slavery is misleading because the very concept of slavery isnt standardized. Those privileges, opportunities and rights that differentiates a free born from a bond individual variesvdrastically between the traditional african and european society. So before we investigate the existence of slavery in traditional african society we must first define which concept of slavery is to be used. More, i see genbuhari trivializes the use of religion as an instrument of control by the oppressor. Mister man, be informed that religion has been used to colonise the spirit of black people. We have been forced to worship the gods and ancestors of our oppressors. Now how can we defeat our enemies when our gods, prophets and messiahs look like them? The arabian enslavement of blacks(ma'at) was much more brutal and longer than the transatlantic saga. Look at north Africa today who would believe that it was once predominantly black? What do you think happened to the autochthonous black groups in that region? genbuhari are you a muslim?

be that as it may, the proffessionals i deeply despise are lawyers, police, bankers, politicians, staffs of religious organizations(bishops, pastors, reverends, imams etc), legislators, judges, doctors, pharmacists and pharmacologists, magistrates, biotechnicians and monopolistic capitalists. I hope you lot die real slow. Devils!

oga pavemgo it was a pleasure doing business with you. I also want to thank you for the free advice you gave me which prevented further mortality. I could have suffered great loss. God bless you sir. I want to know if you have seen your grasscutters actually mate because ever since i started crossing them i havent caught them in the act. I read that they mate only at night or could their shyness also cause resistance to mating in human presence?

flinton:
Cool to see someone from the same village, I am from Ibenabor village, what's Urs? Intend venturing into Agric but not yet ready, I also stay in Enugu

nwanne kedu. i hail from amaeze villa o.

The four noble proffession: the healer, the famer, the warrior and the artist.

eherbal: hmmmmm.just don't know why everything has to be monetised? why don't these greedy people just put up a free comprehensive downloadable guide inform of PDF for prospective farmers, intimating them of the real cons and pros of the venture,thereby giving the newbie the opportunity to decide whether he wants to venture into it or not
The usual practice is nothing next to a scam.The shylocks lure you to their farms, sells their stock, then send you off your figure it out yourself. Attimes, they tell you to attend their seminars at astronomical cost,leaving a gaping hole in your pockets. They come in the guise to help you,but inwardly, their main aim is line their pockets, and smile to the banks through their guile mechanizations. I don't see Nigeria growing agriculturally, if so called helpers primary aim is to help themselves.
wicked things.

Farming is a skill that is acquired at a cost. Nothing in life is free. One must give in order to receive. Are there universities that offer degree programs for free? Do you know the amount of research work and resources that was and still is being put into standardizing the technique of grasscutter breeding? The issue shouldnt be about the payment made for training rather it's about the quality of training being received. Does the trainee get his or her moneys worth? are the instructions delivered at these seminars adequate to run a successfull breeding program? that is the issue at hand. Too many theoretical farmers posing as tutors while the experienced ones are too stingy with necessary info. They wont tell you what you need to know and that's where greed comes in.