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Good move if they ever decide to.

Personally, I bloody don't care!
But if I were to choose then yes, ban the sh!t!

honeric01:
We have players that can do the creative roles, it's just that something is wrong somewhere and i dont know why Amodu is finding it hard to use from the likes of the -20, -17 and u-23 playmakers like Haruna and Rabiu (when they play with the big boys, they will be humbled especially haruna.)

Pls, abeg, don't even go there at all. PLS!

Thank You Father!

^^^You mean good luck?

Ki ni big deal?

"Things got a little heated but we are human and these things can happen to us," West Bromwich Albion defender Meite said after the incident.

"But in the end we understood that we have to preserve the spirit in the squad and so it's all forgotten now."

Chelsea forward Kalou also put the incident behind him.

"Meite is a big brother, I have apologised and he has accepted it," he explained.

"It's a pity that it was between Abdoulaye and myself. We were punished and I have accepted that and that's how we move on.

"You recognise your mistake and you learn - we've talked and its over."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/8364280.stm

The boys are out. So early?

But no shakes, we will try harder next time.

True his achievements and record with the SE is close to flawless and it will be very bad to just get rid of him like that.

Sympathy or no sympathy I don't know who will say he likes the way the boys are playing. It's either the players are way below average (bar Osaze, Martins and VE. Kanu is the KING!) or Amodu is technically Bankrupt or both.

In this case, how do we explain his results. Luck, magic or what?

We of course don't need to hire a foreign coach simply because he is foreign. Heck even a Sudanese is a foreigner.  We need a coach that commands respect both with them boys and NFF.

Besides, why can't Sia1 and Amodu work together. Is it not for the good of the country?

Conclusion:
Amodu/NFF should pls organise some top level friendlies before the ANC if possible;
Amodu should be allowed to take the SE to the ANC.
If he does well, heck, then by all means, he should be allowed to take the SE to SA2010.

PS: Are we to continue with this same line-up? Just asking.

Eastbay:
FBS,
please take action immediately instead of acting confused.
This is a sports thread,not a kalo-kalo forum.
U don stop to be moderator again?

No vex Eastbay . I just couldn't figure out what the heck he was saying.

rasputinn:
No need for the above,Brashy was perfectly in order.I'm sure he wrote more out of dissppointment in the NFA/Eagles than out of a genuine wish that Nigeria would not qualify for the world cup.All of us that have celebrated and are still celebrating the qualification of Nigeria for WOZA 2010,there is NO SINGLE PERSON that can truthfully say he was cock sure that we were definitely going to qualify for the world cup.
BTW.have you not realised that patriotism is such a biitch ;no matter how dissppointed you may feel about your country's poor results,your country is still your country and you are bound to be joyful when she achieves something good;even if by a miracle

I was sure and always knew. Check ALL my posts concerning this.
But yes, it was indeed a miracle.

I think it will be wise to seperate competitive matches from friendlies. It's a different ball game when 3 points is at stake.

Anyways, there should be a friendly with Argentina coming up today, no? Can't find the details though.

For the sake of honeric01  , I'm going to put Amodu's name in the poll. Let the people decide.

mukina2:
My pic . .<gone>

to where? I saw nada!

Baba modupe ni OWO Yin!

Funny thread!

Watch it and you will love it.

honeric01:
Well then, since you don't support a foreign coach, can you as well change these foreign names with local coaches names?

The poll is based on the article itself. Those 3 names were mentioned.

I think there is another thread for other coaches
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-352652.0.html

honeric01:
since you are not clamoring for a foreign coach, why then did you put up these 3 names? and who in your own mind do you want us to employ?

Bros, as you can see on the first post, I made no comments at all. It was an article on www.kickoffnigeria.com

I felt, hey, this will be good for NL. Folks can get to discuss. Geddit?

Emperoh:

FBS
Pally tell me u don't mean this? Its now u will see the sort of apathy that will be between them?
Who will be the boss if i may ask? If its Amodu, i bet u Sia1 will take the walk before the affair even materialises.
If it Sia1, Amodu will feel insulted. If u want to keep amodu, give him John Obuh as Amokachi to me knows next to nothing.
He's better off a Fitness trainer with his muscles and biceps.

As for the post, I am all for what you said
As it stand, some of us don't even know that we don't have a play pattern. We just hit the ball around and hope it falls to a striker to score
If not for a player like Osaze, na only Oluwa know wetin we go dey do by now.

Amodu can't motivate this team, he has lost their respect in my opinion. Technically bankrupt and seem to be bereft of any idea
For those who say he hasn't lost any competitive match, they should show me what he has achieved that is new.
Silver medal my foot. . . . .has the Super Eagles fallen that low to jubilate over being second best?
Thats not why i invest emotionally to watch my country's national team play.
If we play good football and lose, thats a different case just like last Sunday. But what is on ground as of today leaves much to be desired.
So those who think Amodu should stay, should prepare to come back here and type grammar on how uncommited, skilless and bereft our players are.
I dare say that at some point, i even thought Kanu was the caoch!!
He who has ear should listen. Get me a coach who is sound technically, a thorough phycologist like Mourinho and someone who can motivate his team.

Tell me what soo special about the Egyptian National team or even Mozambique, Gabon, South Africa or Algeria?
U don't need superstars to win. U need a team and only a good coach and manager can build one!!!

Padi mi, no vex   but you see, it's a moral (to some extent) and very dicey thing.
Amodu did not lose any match. True and this is NOT bad, yes?
If this is not bad, then he should be allowed to continue with the boys and build a good team. But this is a risk, are we ready to take it?
If he will gel with Obuh, I'm all for it, but question is will they? Ego will set in and we will end up more confused imo.
I suggested Sia1 'cos I felt they could ride together but now that you have opened my eyes. . .wahala dey oo!

In essence this is also my point!

Get me a coach who is sound technically, a thorough phycologist like Mourinho and someone who can motivate his team.

honeric01:
I didn't miss that, i remember what i said and i still hold on to that.

Yes, someone with a rich technical idea should be included to the technical crew. but i heard Siasia said he can't be an assistant to anyone when its time to handle the national team so how do we do it?

Exactly, since Sia1 cannot be an assitant and clearly Amodu is NOT (maybe it's just my opinion) a very good coach. The guy cannot even motivate his players. What do we do?
Are you happy with the way the boys are playing?

honeric01:
Agreed that the first 2 have laurels to show with their CV, but pep never had anything and when he was employed, he lost some virtual matches (before the treble) but was not fired and we later saw what he was able to do (won the treble), so what i am saying now is that we shouldn't just push siasia away just because he did bad with the u-20 (his selections).

Now to coaches handling national teams, the french coach is still there, Egyptian coach is still there and host of others, they perform both good and bad, yet they haven't been fired or replaced with a foreigner, so why do we have to fire a coach yet to lose a competitive match when others have lost more than one? Dunga has lost more matches than Amodu, yet he's taking Brazil to the world cup.

Again, my stand is not exactly going "foreign". Nah, give me ANY good coach and by good I mean a credible track record.

Pep had a very good record with the B team and the reason why he was given that post. It wasn't out of the blues. Yes he lost some matches and was not fired but you should know why.
Was Frank R not fired? Manager get fired easily.
Dunga was under serious fire until he started winning the necessary matches.
France? Give a call to Domenech and ask him wetin dey? I can tell you that he ain't feeling too good about his team. Remember even his captain criticised him. How bad can that be?

honeric01:
Yes, they can as well add siasia to the technical crew, replace Amokachi or simply send him to some coaching courses (short term). Amodu should take the SE to the nations cup and if he performs well, then he should be left to take them to the world cup. he was under extreme pressure during the world cup qualifiers so now that everything is cleared up, he should be allowed to concentrate and then build a team of his dream.

Perhaps you missed this?

FBS:
What the NFA/NFF can do is to bring them (Amodu and Sia1) together and work as one.

So basically we are on the same page, innit?  

But you see, this is something that could have been done if NFF wanted this implemented. I'm not sure they do.
Agreed, he should take the boys to the nations cup and it's a risk we are willing to take though before then, he should engage the team in a couple of friendlies first. . .from there we will see what he is trying to do.

honeric01:
Mclaren took over when it was remaining like 2-3 matches, so it wasn't his fault. what i am trying to say here is that the English people were most successful under a local coach in their entire history so why do some people always bring up the issue of English having a foreign coach, so we should also have one? why's it like that always? don't we know of alot of countries with local coaches during well like Brazil, Spain, Egypt and the rest? must we always follow the English because they were our colonial master?

You know I don't buy that argument!   but the truth is England have performed better lately under a foreign manager! Is this by chance or an objective achieved?

Do we need a foreign coach? I don't know.
Do we need "another" coach? Yes, I think so.

honeric01:
But were they fired? before pep won the ucl cup, didn't he lose some league matches?

When SAF lost the final, was he fired?

When mourinho got booted out of ucl by manu, was he fired since we have to rate them based on their last performances.

When we say a coach is as good as his last match, I sure you understand what that means?  

JM won the CL before and so the belief is there that he can do it again.
SAF is like you know a mini-god. One of the untouchables even he had his own problems.
Pep won a treble in his first season as a manager. Call it luck or whatever but that was brilliant.
Truely they were not sacked but even if they get sacked, you can be certain that they won't be looking for jobs for a long time. Other TOP clubs will snap them based on their TRACK RECORD!

Now do you mean to say that Amodu will be a HOT CAKE should he get the axe?

Mind you, managing a team (League) and a national team are two different thing entirely. Ask LFS!  

honeric01:
12/20 in my books, yes, 2 silver medals, what did most of our foreign coach win for us apart from Westerholf? remember that since Amodu has been coaching Nigeria, he has only lost one match.

Agreed. In fact he never lost a single competitive match which to be frank is commendable.

Just one question though, are you saying Amodu should be retained? I just want to clear up some facts.

honeric01:
How many matches has SAF, Mourinho, Pep and co lost so far? (Important matches), are they still good or bad?

Maybe you don't read the papers. When they lose the get criticised HEAVILY but even at that they have proven they have what it takes. ALL 3 mentioned are CL/LEAGUE winners! Now that's what I call a track record!

honeric01:
Based on his track record, he's rated 7/10 in my own books.

Actually I said on the scale of 20!      

What is his track record? 2 silver medals at a youth level?  . Yep he good.   LOL!

honeric01:
But does one bad performance change a coach from being a good coach?

It was a VERY BAD performance and as such did nothing to enhance his CV. It's the other way round.
Remember a coach is as good as his last match in charge.

What the NFA/NFF can do is to bring them (Amodu and Sia1) together and work as one.

honeric01:
He was only an interim coach, the former coach that stayed more than 4 years with the 3 lions, he was from Sweden and we all know his name, where did he lead them to? and who was their former coach before Steve Goran Erickson was appointed? was he not also a foreigner?

Me thinks the idea is not about going foreign or getting a foreigner. The issue is (my stand anyway) is to get a good one. Anyone at all. He could be from Sudan for all I care. But he should be good and command respect from the boys.

How high/low do you rate Amodu on the scale of 20?

slimshay:
Funny i was mentioning Trappatoni( though i'm not sure dis is possible) to my friends the other day when we qualified and france went one up on them. Like the FBS said, what we need now is a technically sound coach but one more very important ingredient is a motivational coach for whom the chosen players would want to give their all.

God bless you Slimshay. This is more than important sef. You are spot on on this.

honeric01:
then lets take john obuh

John Obuh is not bad but you will agree that he needs to try with the U-20 first. It's a gradual process. I'm telling you, had Sia1 won the U-20, you can be certain that everyone in the country will be calling (if not demand) for him (Sia1) to take over.

It's a matter of choice, innit?