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I want former Barcelona coach i.e Rijkard to take over Chelsea before the champion league will start again because zola don't have experience on champion league.

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Aaron Osikhena, Nigeria, 08/2/2009 13:47
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scolari must go he is clueless,we lost at home to burnley,struggled to qualify in champions lge,falling down the lge we need a overhaul young hungry players,plus we need to know what roman wants we need some answers.i would get rid of big phil and get swen in at least he is more tactical.
- david wheatley, arlesey beds, 08/2/2009
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1138824/Roman-ruins-Fans-turn-Big-Phil-Russian-owner-sees-Chelsea-drop-title-race.html

Except there is a turn around he will not be with chelsea next season.

seriously I feel for LFS. It seems everyone is against him.

@debosky,
last time I checked, arse is still lagging behind and may never make the champions league spot.
leave us alone. we will deal with the situation.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=227275.msg3440171#msg3440171 date=1234036961]ROFLMAOWPIMP. . . . . . . .What do u mean, Akola??
Tune your TV to SKYSPORTS1 now and listen to what Chelsea fans calling in are saying.
They all know the players are not playing for the manager. . . . . .Nuthing to do with Scolari. It is the attitude of your prima donnas.[/quote]question is why are they not playing for the manager?

The good news for me today is that JM's Inter won today 3-0.
Even Figo scored.  

@ Sauron,
you see what I mean by having the kwarect manager. RB pulled off a stunt. brilliant.
Adams was never a coach.

I dont like RB but shait, he just did it. 3 points in the bag.
PS: he must have bribed Crouch

Cristalz:
FBS I thought you were going to bed

@Cristalz, I was not until pompey scored the second goal. I just lost my appetite.

oh what the phuc.K

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=227275.msg3439992#msg3439992 date=1234034265]How do these wack managers get paid??

Kuyt scores!!!![/quote]oh, now you know managers can be wack? Adams aint no different from LFS.  
Even you behind your computer/TV know what needs to be done.

rubbish. . .
I'm going to bed.

what a cracking goal from the man they call the terminator.
Pompey 2-1 l'pool.

if pompey no win this one?

shait. . .o pe o Kyut was offside.

BlueDiva:
Really u guys are funny, we face the risk of not finishing first 4 and u're discussing about Barca, United and FR?
WTF is this? Is this a Blue thread or what?
FBS, Nateevs, wetin dey happen?

we dey. . .feelings just dey boil over but nuffin dey happen. the season is not over.

what was crouch thinking. . .why the stupid backpass?
l'pool are level?

Ibime:
@FBS

Rijkaard is rubbish mehn. There is no difference between Rijkaard and LFS. Too much pass-pass, not enough aggression in their football and not enough pressing, plus defencely they were a shambles. Thats not the kind of manager we need in the Prem, otherwise, we might as well call Ruud Gullit to come back and manage us. Rijkaard was just lucky to have the best players in the World at his club at a particular time. It is absolutely criminal that he did not win more than he did. As soon as Henk Ten-Cate left, Barcelona fell apart. The players lost fitness and sharpness. As Ronaldinho and Deco said, Ten-Cate was the best coach they had ever worked with cos he pushed them everyday. We saw the same at Chelsea where he nearly got into a fight with Terry because he pushed Mikel so hard to improve the speed of his passing. Mikel refused to learn, that is why Ten-Cate focused on him. Till today, Mikel is still playing those lazy side passes. It was a big mistake for Scolari to sack Ten-Cate and Steve Clarke. Clarkey was very good at organising the defence. That idiot Ray Wilkins has nothing to offer. He is not intense enough - too much laughter and joke. We need a better assistant.

Ibime, na wah o. . .FR is rubbish? wonderful. what can I say. Did he not manage to win the La liga twice and the champions league?
Did he not take the Netherlands in Euro 2000 Semi Finals where they played some of the best football in their history despite in inexperience?
Was he not the first manager to do a double over Real Madrid at the Bernabeau?
I will take such "rubbish" over a sane LFS.

What the heck are you saying man? luck? uh . . I see? luck is against LFS abi? nonsense.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=227275.msg3439848#msg3439848 date=1234032309]6 Trophies?? I hope you are not counting community shield as a trophy??
United have won it twice in a row now and we don't mention it at all.
Jose won 2 EPL titles, 2 Carling cup titles and 1 FA cup title. . . . .anything else??[/quote]making 5 right? do you call that waste of money? which other manager in the club's history has managed that much?
name any other manager that successfully defended the title in the club's history.

And what about the JM passion and motivational skills? You call that waste of money?

@nateevs, name another player aside ro-dinho?
and going by your theory, barca shouldnt have sacked him becos of continuity.
but the new guy is doing brilliantly well. how about that?

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=227275.msg3439793#msg3439793 date=1234031432]The same JM who lost to Aston Villa, couldn't beat Rosenborg in the UCL opening tie, almost lost to Liverpool until Rob Styles gave a phantom penalty?
Jose was able to assemble a squad of his taste when he came into Chelsea. Many players were flogged, several players were brought in.
He knew what he wanted. He got the players that would suit his style and everything worked out to the t.
Mind you, several hundreds of millions were wasted too in that period of time.

It's a different scenario to Felipe Scolari's era.[/quote]what a way of thinking? Did  you say wasted? 6 trophies in 2 seasons? oh damn right, what a waste!!! rethink pls.

LFS got deco, bose: what has he done with them nuffin.

If a manager does not get result, pls, its not always the fault of his players. Ever thought it could be the managers'?

oh what a day.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=227275.msg3439739#msg3439739 date=1234030346]FBS, can u motivate a disinterested player?? Letz be honest. . . . one look at Drogba, Anelka, Ballack, Deco would tell you they can't be bovvered.
There are 2 different kinds of people in this world. . .The insatiable, "hungry for more" type of players AND the ones that feel "i have achieved enough".
The Chelsea squad is split between these kinda players and until there's a major overhaul things won't get better.
I doubt JM woulda done better in this current climate under Roman Abrahamovic.
The last time Roman told Jose there wouldn't be any transfer. . . . . .Jose cracked and that was when GRADE A and B stories filtered out.[/quote]permission to disagree. JM will do better will these guys. take it or leave, besides, was he (LFS) not aware of the scenario before signing. If you ask me, i think Frank Rijkaard would have done a better job.  

@Cris,
Yes I understand but the point is managers are more liable to these sort of things.
When people go to war and win, it is the Kings that takes the credit, when they fail, it is the people that are shamed.
In football, if the team win, individual players get accolades but most of it goes down to the "geniality" of the manager.
when the mess up like they did today, who do you think should take the blame?

somze:
No club has replaced all it's starting 11 in a season.

No Company has sacked ALL employees as a result of performance.

But perhaps Nateevs knows better.

@Somze:
nateevs and Sauron thinks otherwise. No company will ever sack all its employee except its filling for bankruptcy or smt like that.
What needs to be done, is get rid of unwilling players and if possible the CEO too.
When a team is not performing, its always the fault of the manager. That is football.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=227275.msg3439684#msg3439684 date=1234029185]Scolari is not a bad manager. . . . . .He is only managing bad employees with no passion, drive and hunger to succeed.[/quote]that is his job. to motivate the players. he is clearly not doing that.  I will take half of JM to 3 of LFS. reason: JM is passionate. You see how he tweaks a formation and it works for him.

nateevs:
I watch closely how LFS wants his players to play. . . He wants them to move the ball around and create opportunities. These players played a route one system with everything around Lampard and Drogba. I do not expect them to change just like that.

My Answer. . . . Let's tweak a bit. . find the right players for this system and see what happens. . . !

That is the problem, he doesnt know how to tweak the team.

@Sauro, Nateevs:
Hold on a second. Imagine you are the CEO of a company and the shareholders are complaining about the company performance.
What do you think they will do? sack all the current employees or push for a change in management?

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=227275.msg3439605#msg3439605 date=1234027978]Scolari inherited a shit team. The absence of Joe Cole and Michael Essien made things worse too.
There's no way Chelsea can beat a disciplined defence in the Premiership.
The current crop of players cannot open up sides who put 10 men behind the ball.

Is Rafa Benitez insane?? Torres on the bench??
Babel n Ngog to lead the attack??
Pompey. . . . . .Please make me proud. . . . . .
Mr Tony Adams, i know u have always been a cunt but please prove me wrong tonight. [/quote]@Sauron, even with a new multi-million pound new set of players, LFS tactics will remain same. do you not agree?

RB lost it as well. it is clear for all to see.

He said we need a new team? i wonder what that means. can you explain pls?  

nateevs:
This is what I mean by your emotions taking over. . . . Look at your statement above and look at what I posted only minutes ago . . .



You see wht I mean?

emotions, where? what was emotional about what I said?

@nateevs, come on you cant be this one eyed? are you truely saying its the fault of the players and not LFS?

@nateevs, you have failed to see my honest assessment as well as my question. This has nothing to do with emotions, even though one may argue that football is and always will be an emotional sport.

Not sacking/sacking LFS was not my point, the question was, do we need a total overhaul of the squad or a change of manager or both?

If cos of the fear that the next manager will not perform, Chelsea retains LFS, it is also no guarantee that he will succeed in the coming seasons.
So back to my question, what do we need? You may/may not agree but the team is playing zero football and that my friend, boils down to the manager of the team.

In your own view it is totally the fault of the players and not the managers' and that is where we disagree.

thats if he doesnt sell the club. shait, I just dont know what to say. What a season!!! its will be fight to finish.
even bottom teams no dey gree sef.