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[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=227275.msg3447935#msg3447935 date=1234206912]You must be very intelligent.
I am sure we would be talking about another manager in the next 6 months.
Football is not a game of dice. . . . .It takes years of perseverance to get to the very top level.
Why wasn't Martin O'Neill or Moyes sacked all this while?? They didn't get where they are today by default.
It took a considerable number of years.

He was gagging for it, mate!!![/quote]you must be freaking joking? Chelsea is not Everton, not Aston Villa for shitness sake.
The owners are different. RA philosophy his different. I'm not sure even if he has one.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=227275.msg3447890#msg3447890 date=1234206278]Do we have an oracle that says Scolari will not win the Champions League??
Had Benitez gotten a sack letter in February 2005, would he have won the Champions League??
Scolari has not even completed a season yet and u guys(Ibime-led petition) knifed him.
I hate that geriatric Ibime. . . . .What a self-righteous Arrow. [/quote]and what oracle says he will win it?
A manager that could not beat any of the top 3? someone who turned the fortress to a playing ground?
The moment Bellamy scored against chelsea, he hasnt stopped scoring since then.

No worries Criz. We love this game of footie and we follow it 24/7. Maybe you folks need an extra mod? 
And thanks mucho for editing the poll & topic.

PS: Have you gotten them account numbers?

Chelsea sack Luiz Felipe Scolari: 10 reasons why he had to go

Chelsea’s sacking of Luiz Felipe Scolari has stunned the Premier League – but to many Blues fans the decision came as a blessed relief. Here are 10 reasons they wanted the Brazilian out.

1) He’d lost the fans
At the end of Saturday’s dismal 0-0 home draw with Hull – a game which the Blues should have lost – an unusually quiet Stamford Bridge crowd got very vocal. They booed and chanted "You don't know what you're doing” as two fans unfurled a ‘Scolari Out’ banner which also called for the return of Gianfranco Zola and Steve Clarke from West Ham. With characteristic understatement, Scolari’s understudy Ray Wilkins called it “a tad out of order”.

2) He’d lost the dressing room too
Supporters were dismayed in December by claims that senior players had questioned Scolari’s substitutions in matches against West Ham and Arsenal. It was also alleged that John Terry and Frank Lampard had confronted the manager to ask for the intensity of training to be stepped up in a bid to return to the high-tempo football of the Jose Mourinho era. Some players privately grumbled about wanting a return to Jose Mourinho's rigid 4-4-2 system and moaned about the manager turning up late for training. The lack of respect ran both ways: Scolari simply didn’t seem bothered after a humiliating 3-0 reverse at Manchester United recently and his players echoed that with their resigned body language at Liverpool and against Hull in the games which sealed his fate.

3) He turned Fortress Stamford Bridge into a fun day out for visitors
Not only did the Blues’ 86-game unbeaten home record go against Liverpool in October, but the Scolari era saw 16 Premier League points dropped at home out of a possible 39.

4) He got his tactics wrong
Scolari’s firm belief in the lone striker – either in a 4-5-1 or a 4-3-3 formation – meant Didier Drogba and Nicolas Anelka never got an extended run together. Moves from man-to-man to zonal marking and the late addition of Ricardo Quaresma were too-little-too-late acknowledgments of Chelsea’s killer flaws at set pieces and out wide.

5) He struggled against the minnows
Home draws with Hull, Newcastle, Southend and Burnley – the latter made even worse by a 5-4 penalty defeat which knocked them out of the League Cup – would never have happened under Jose Mourinho. Neither would poor near-misses against Stoke and CFR Cluj.

6) He struggled against the big boys too
For once, Anelka wasn’t just sulking when he moaned last week: 'From the start of the season, we've lost our tests against the biggest teams. Whenever the biggest matches in the Premier League come along, we have just not shown we know how to perform at the 'real' Chelsea level.'” So far Chelsea have just one point in total to show from two games apiece against Liverpool and Manchester United and a home match against Arsenal.

7) He put his faith in the wrong players
Scolari bought Deco on the back of a terrible season at Barcelona and persisted with him until recently despite the Portuguese midfielder’s evident struggles to keep up with the pace of the Premier League. He also kept Drogba out of the side in favour of Anelka – who might be the Premier League’s leading scorer but has only netted once in eight weeks… and that against Southend.

He’d stopped communicating with the fans
It’s bad enough when a manager stops attending pre- and post-match press conferences – even worse when in his stead he sends out human Valium Wilkins in his stead. Scolari’s struggles with the English language didn’t help him in his struggles to win over an increasingly frustrated Chelsea crowd.

9) He’d turned into an unlucky manager
Major injuries to Michael Essien and Joe Cole and fitness problems for Didier Drogba, John Terry and Ricardo Carvalho – not to mention the farcical gazumping of Robinho by Manchester City after Chelsea had offered fans the chance to buy a shirt with his name on it - conspired to wreck Scolari’s hopes of continuing Chelsea’s flying start to the season. Roman Abramovich's reincarnation as a credit crunch Doug Ellis and subsequent reluctance to perform major surgery on an ageing team didn’t help either. If only Big Phil had endured this kind of misfortune against England in the 2002 and 2006 World Cups and the 2004 European Championship.

10) He wasn’t even as good as Avram Grant
His haul of only 49 points from 25 games is 15 worse than the 64 Jose Mourinho managed in his first season, 17 worse than Mourinho hauled in the following year as the title was won again – and five worse than the seemingly hapless Avram Grant got last year. Grant’s team scored 48 goals in those games – Scolari’s could only manage 44.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/02/09/chelsea-sack-luiz-felipe-scolari-10-reasons-why-he-had-to-go-115875-21110652/

I think this sums it all.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=227275.msg3447838#msg3447838 date=1234205614]Rafa Benitez has been here for how long now?? Has he won the domestic league??
Why is he still  [i]unsacked/i]??[/quote]becos he has managed to win the CL.

asides tactics, LFS could not inspire and motivate the boys. They were just not playing for him.
Like nateevs said, we can rant over this till. . .you know when

Question is, who is coming in?

nateevs:
How can you guarantee we would do this?

There is never no guarantee.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=227275.msg3447742#msg3447742 date=1234204612]Are they worse than Man Utd in 2003/4 season?
Having led the table till the 1st of January. . . . .We fell 12 points behind league leaders(Arsenal) by February.
We lost to Wolves at OT, lost to Pompey, lost to Liverpool. . . We lost NINE games that season.
Did we sack Ferguson??[/quote]was it not in the same season AF contemplated resigning as a reason for his side's loss of form?

Cristalz:
Lemme send you my account numbers so you can stash the money for our drinks in there. . .we prefer to buy them ourselves

@Criz: we are supposed to be talking football and not drinks.
meanwhile send your account number. I will wire it via SGBN

Mukina2 & Criz: clap for yourselves .
Well done Drinks on me. 
PS: one more thing. could you also edit the poll. Jamaica or not Jamaic[b]e[/b]
typo

Zola, RM, FR, Steve Clarke
I'm ruling Di Matteo out.

Cristalz:
See this man. . .nor be you post thread?

Okay,I'll find it and post here. But then you'll have to modify the thread title so people can see the time and date at a glance. Welcome to a little bit of modding,lol

I'm used to modding no be today we they do am.
Cant modify the title. aint no mod.

@nateevs, we both want the best for this club and I understand your point. To say I don't feel for LFS will be false. I do but sentiments and emotions aside, LFS did not convince people and fans alike with his tactics.
Even when things were rough for JM, he always found a way to win the fans over again.
Grant made subs and the fans were screaming rubbish, but it worked and I tell you no single chelsea fan can forget that. Now tell me, can you remember any memorable match with LFS?

If you ask me, I say get rid of RA & Kenyon. RA wanted instant success, JM brought them and the fans have grown accustomed to this (can't blame though ) but for some stupid reason they fired the best manager ever.

No one can realistically tell you where to start from if the next manager fails. The point is, keep trying till you get it right.
History and success comes with time and until Chelsea can get owners that are ready to write their names in the rocks and not on sand, I'm afraid it will be a rollercoaster for the club.

sorry Criz. could you do that for me?

nateevs:
Oh! We will all celebrate! . . . . Now you answer my question. . . . what if he fails?

I'm sure you understand the meaning of IF. i.e it can go either way. Why not wait to see if he succeeds.
LFS has shown what he could do. He is not a game tweaker.

BlueDiva:
Its one thing to put in your best as a manager and then end up with poor results (case of bad luck, if u like).
Its another thing to be tactiaclly inept as a coach.
Fans are calling for his head, our skipper has to keep apologizing to the fans after every match.
Its obvious the players had lost confidence in him.
They was no way LFS was suddenly going to wake up with a winning formular. Better now than later.

I'm not one to suggest coaches but the likes of
Hiddink, Rijkard (hate him or luv him), Mancini could be given a try.
With a good EPL coach as an assistant to any of these folks, i'm sure something would happen before the season ends.

This is not to say we don't need to overhaul the squad at summer, bring in some kindergarten kids like Arsenal and even United is currently doing.

@Bluediva I concur wholeheartedly.   minus what Arsenal is doing. Their kids aint performing either.   we should be better off than them. heck, what is the academy for?

nateevs:
what if we employed another world class manager and he doesn't succeed again?

and what if he succeeds?

What is this firing a manager mid season is bad management? something that should have been done earlier.
RM did it and they have not lost a single match since then.
Where is all the emotional sentiments coming from?

1. RA's idea of style over substance has failed. It doesn't always work anyway. Let him sell the club please.
2. The sack of JM (who by the way would have brought success, fame and history) is his doing, and he just got served.
3. Kenyon should be sacked. He was never an honest guy. Says one thing one before you know it, a manager gets the SACK
4. Ray W is not a coach.
5. LFS lacked the motivational and inspirational factors needed. Tweaking a game was not his turf.
6. Chelsea's chances of a silverware this season is under a big question mark?

But hey, its Chelsea, we are renowned for the NEVER SAY DIE ATTITUDE.

The thing tire me o. why play jamaica when there are more quality top oppositions? no wonders our rating is not really going up.
The whole NFF/NFA should be sacked.
Time-20:45 (Nigerian Time)

mukina2:
In other news.Roman has seriously been checking NL recently and has decided to put the following up for consideration

Ibime
nateevs
FBS

mukina2, I didnt see your name on the list?  
well, I think LFS was the wrong motivational factor Chelsea was looking for.
If you ask me, I will be happy if someone else buys chelsea. RA ain't it.
He must be regretting sacking JM. Style over substance doesn't always work.

Chelsea sacks LFS. . .

there is no country called nigeria. its justa figment of our imagination.

they should have won that game.

Yes, its international friendlies again and its the mighty super eagles of Nigeria vs Jamaica in London.
Among those already in camp are Taiye Taiwo and the blazing hot sibling pair of Kalu and Ike Uche.
Sorry not much information at the moment but will definitely update those interested, meanwhile you can make your predictions.

1 missed chance,
1 trademark cross from outside of boot.
overall=below average.

follypimpi:
@FBS

How come u r the only 1 laughing?

@follypimpi, I have no idea why you are not laughing. the season has long been over for arse, isn't it?

why did she ever take the job in the first place? she lost all the respect people had for her. I mean the masses.

debosky:
We will turn things around - at this point last season we were #1 so there's a lot of footie left to play.  

@debosky, can you remind us where you ended?  

Its either this guy is just critical of LFS or he is damn just right.

The Brazilian is not yet matching the achievements of the unpopular Grant, who took Chelsea to the Champions League final and second place in the Premier League last season, despite a terrible run of injuries.

"Over that 16 game period last season when they had no [Petr] Cech, no [John] Terry, no [Frank] Lampard, no [Michael] Ballack, no [Michael] Essien and no [Didier] Drogba, they only dropped 11 points - and that manager didn't know what he was doing, according to the fans.

"He couldn't win the big matches - apart from the wins over Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United," Lipton joked.

"Things that Scolari, for all his money, for all his experience, has singly failed to do.

"Yes, it's a new experience - but he should be getting more. He's got enough top quality players in his squad to be doing better than he is.

"Scolari does not appear to be able to alter games. For instance he went away over Christmas and came back with a Plan B and a Plan C - except they're just the same as Plan A, there's no difference.

"They can't change a game and people have worked them out."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_4901956,00.html

The point is this and that what all sane minded and lovers of the club are echoing. No one is against him (LFS) but clearly, he needs to improve.

"I can't see him staying beyond the end of the season now. I don't think he'll go before the end of the season - that would be very foolish, pointless actually. But unless something happens very swiftly I can't see it turning around. There is a massive overhaul required."

"You can't talk about it being a short-term blip," Lipton said. "In the last 16 matches they have dropped 22 points, which, for Chelsea, is an inconceivable thought.

"They have lost 16 points at home this season, which is the worst season at home since the Abramovich era began. If they lose any more points at home it will be the worst since 2001 - that's how bad it is."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_4901956,00.html

This is the point I have been stressing on.

BlueDiva:
I luv Chelsea.
No time to waste, we don't have patience in our dictionary.  

but seriously, i think we do if only we can see the same passion from the players and gaffer.