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Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 10:59pm On Oct 14, 2020
Looks like I must've triggered something up there. Now take a very deep breath and say these words: “FearlessOG is not the cause of my frustrations.”
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 10:44pm On Oct 14, 2020
Fact1:


Your coming wife,,,,,,,grin

Op of course,,,,,,,,grin

Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 10:32pm On Oct 14, 2020
Fact1:
Og which level are you guys bringing in,, abeg no fight,,


You're my next couple,,,,,, and the ship must sail,,,

But tiana what i noticed about you is that you like guessing or concluding many things in your mind,,,,, hmmmm you have to be careful because not all things goes the way we always th☹️☹️,,,,,,,,,,wink

This guy, abeg who be "tiana" cheesy cheesy cheesy
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 10:28pm On Oct 14, 2020
Lol!!! For essays that were less than a 3-minute read each, you literally complained about their length and even suggested “keeping them short.” You seriously expected one or two line responses to explain things to a mentally challenged person?
Glad to see you admit your delusion.
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 10:04pm On Oct 14, 2020
I am equally courageous enough to use my one and only moniker to disprove your weak arguments. If you think I have more than one moniker, or you are erroneously mistaking me for someone else, you are sorely deluded.
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 9:48pm On Oct 14, 2020
And unicorns exist. I learned from the best (you). If you aren't tired yet, why should I be? Two can play that game tongue
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 9:22pm On Oct 14, 2020
One and only "Main" is the one tormenting you cheesy
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 8:42pm On Oct 14, 2020
Lalasticlala, let’s go to front page. We need to teach people what suffices for a cogent argument and what doesn’t cool
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 8:03pm On Oct 14, 2020
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Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 10:37am On Oct 14, 2020
MhisTahrah:
I'm sure you're an oldie like I expressed in my last reply.I won't be replying you anymore, bye!

Lol!!! Just don’t go around accusing people simply based on your gut feeling. You could land yourself in very serious trouble that you never bargained for.

I also wouldn’t be replying you anymore, if you keep to your word.

Bye bye cool
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 12:15am On Oct 14, 2020
Fact1:
Original gang star,,,ago biii the best man,,,, ,,, please this ship must sail,,,grin

You two get similar characteristics,,,,,,,wink

But shey you don break up with dat yaa girlfriend nii,,,,,,, (okiikii's sis) wink,, grin


Don't mind me oo,,nah one thing I dey sip for here ,,the thing strong,,,,,,grin

Lol!!! This guy. Make sure say no be “local” you dey sip ooo!!! The day wey I drink jedi and monkey tail, I understand the condition of blind men wey their eyes dey open, but them no fit see. It was a complete visual blackout... grin
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 12:13am On Oct 14, 2020
MhisTahrah:
I was right about Zini.And it must be tiredness because I def saw the pink f next to the moniker.

I'm sure you're an oldie with a main.The only thing probably was doing in that sentence was to emphasize that although I feel you engage in these vices(women bashing and double standards), I might be wrong. Very wild guesses I know, because you indulged me, I'll give you some more.Your style of writing feels familiar, you are probably an acquaintance who was too chicken to use their main.Don't blame me, I have an overactive imagination.Lol...
Your essays aged my bones, causing the tired feeling.

Yes, you were right about Zini, and I acknowledged that.
I am definitely not an oldie with a main. You are free to believe or disbelieve that, it won’t change anything. But, take a look at some of the words that you’re using, that contradict the assertion that you are trying to make about me being an oldie with a main:

“I feel you engage in…”
“…I might be wrong.”
“Very wild guesses I know…”
“…probably an acquaintance…”
“…I have an overactive imagination.”

You used all the above phrases that indicate probability, rather than certainty, yet someone is supposed to take your claim that “I am an oldie with a main” serious? Have you ever considered a career as a stand-up comedian? cheesy

Do get some rest for your weary bones. You deserve it. My “essays” dem get as dem be true true…
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 9:56pm On Oct 13, 2020
MhisTahrah:
Gerrard was the one I had in mind.He also quoted damnnigar.

You know, that sidestepping thing you accused me of.I'm a learner at it compared to you.
I put it to you that this is your alternate nairaland account. You have a main which you probably use to do all vices mentioned on this thread.This is just a thought from a hyperactive mind who has indulged in too many crime dramas, you needn't reply.

Well, how does it feel to realize that you were dead wrong? You even quoted Lordfave98’s post and said “My point exactly.”

Lol!!! You put it to me that this is my alternate Nairaland account, yet you use the word “probably” in your very next sentence. Taking wild guesses, aren’t you. Well, you are definitely free to revel in your assumptions. Obviously, this back and forth isn’t starting to tire you out like you claimed in your last post.

You needn’t also reply cool
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 8:28pm On Oct 13, 2020
MhisTahrah:
The male moniker corroborated his claim.

From my meager knowledge on law, I know sometimes circumstances surrounding a crime/criminal and background are considered. I could be wrong.Honestly, all this back and forth is starting to tire me out.You will never agree some males are more guilty of generalizing and double standards, I also will never agree that females who do it are often ignored by other women.Can we give it a rest?

Goodluck achieving your goal.

Do you talk so much in real life? angry

I am referring to Lordfave98’s comment. No, he didn’t corroborate his claim.

Lol!!! I cannot accurately answer the question of whether I talk so much in real life, since it largely depends on the topic being discussed. If one is discussing combat sports (UFC, MMA, Bellator, Boxing, One FC, Glory Kickboxing, etc), I can discuss it from now ‘till the Lord’s second coming. I play the role of a listener for most other topics, since I am largely uninterested in them.

I am also not necessarily a fan of conversing on social media, as can be evidenced by the fact that my account is several months old and I have been a viewer/guest for over 6 years, yet, all the posts that I have made on Nairaland are on only this thread and can be counted on the fingers on one’s palms. I cannot count the number of times that I have wanted to create an account on Nairaland or log into my account after creating it, just to counter or refute someone’s claims, but I always end up convincing myself that there is definitely a better use of my time. I cannot even remember when I logged into my Facebook account last.

Ciao!!!
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 7:03pm On Oct 13, 2020
Fact1:
Og giiii dem,,,,,,


Original gang star,,,,, osorire omo mii,,wink

Lol!!! This guy. Your matter na something else. You go like “e-fights” die!!! cheesy
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 7:02pm On Oct 13, 2020
Magnoliaa:


You were making sense oh. And treading in the right direction...

Don't start making claims that goes against everything you've been saying since morning about hypocrisy with this...

There's no 'rarely' and 'more' and 'never' here. Women excuse their genders; women bash their genders.
Men excuse their genders; men bash their genders.

There's no case of (who does it) more or less here. Keep it at that (energy).

Or unless, you'll be guilty of being more biased towards your gender...

And you used females/men? undecided I'll take offense at that. Why?? (P.S: Iz MY *anger and offense*)

Lol!!! Fair point, I must say.

I am not specifically concerned about the female/men usage and/or dichotomy. Just as equally as I wouldn’t worry or even take note if someone uses boy/female, woman/male, lady/man, etc. I can understand why, as a feminist, you would take offense at that. I also find that people who are not just particular about such usage, but are specifically offended by it (not necessarily you, because I wouldn’t know for sure), are easily among the people that come up with very weird gender theories et al. Like feminists saying that air conditioning is sexist, spelling women as “womxn” or “womyn” because including the word “man” in the spelling is sexist, or trying to rename the word “history” to “herstory” to mention a few.
Ultimately though, to each their own.
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 6:57pm On Oct 13, 2020
MhisTahrah:
Obviously we still have some right thinking people on this section.It doesn't DISPROVE the fact that some excused cheating married men, just shows that some don't subscribe to their biased views.It is also interesting to see that the 2nd most liked comment on that thread is by kekereekun with 347 likes and there was no single word of condemnation from him.It is quite disturbing to see so much congregated stupidity in that comment.

Well, I didn't see any male quote that zini guy with his '100% of threads created by girls on nairaland are bullshit' comment and the damnniggar dude with his defence of the hypocrites either.
I believe nairaland misandrists didn't actually start out as misandrists.They got tired of defending and calling these alfa males out so they started launching their own attacks on the male gender in retaliation. I can remember a time on this nl when females were attacked for airing their views on sex-related matters.Take a stroll to the sexuality section and compare the male and female ratio.

Just as there was no single word of condemnation from the 2nd most liked comment, there also wasn’t any single word of support, excuse, or rationalization for cheating from the most liked comment.
You are correct that no male has quoted the “zini guy’s” comment. As for the “damnniggar” dude, a male moniker actually quoted and responded to his comment on page 2 (whether the reply was spot on or off point is an entirely different argument altogether).
The point that Nairaland misandrists didn’t actually start out as misandrists doesn’t cut it for me. We can equally start mentioning how people like Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, etc, didn’t start out as dictators, terrorists, etc. What they were before/initially is by the way, what they currently are is what matters. In local parlance, “I get am before no be property.”
You are right to acknowledge that I have kept my posts largely devoid of personal insults, just as you have done yours. You are very wrong to say that you ignored the “carefully sheathed polite ones.” On the contrary, you have also responded with some subtle ones.
My moniker is new, but I am definitely no stranger to Nairaland, since I have been viewing as a guest since 2014, as I have stated previously. And just as you have your gripe, I also have mine – I cannot even begin to count the number of threads or comments that swing in the opposite direction of what your thread is about, that’s why I decided to play the Devil’s Advocate on this thread like I stated in my very first comment. I could also decide to play the Devil’s Advocate and swing in the other direction, essentially lending credence to this thread.
Ultimately, my lifelong goal is to be as unbiased as is humanly possible, simply because I realize that people support or disagree with viewpoints primarily because of their inherent inclinations (be it gender, race, religion or political affiliation, to mention a few), and not necessarily because those viewpoints make sense or are lacking coherence. Whether I will actually achieve this feat is a different ball game on its own.
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 4:32pm On Oct 13, 2020
fati2001:


IS THAT ALL?


lolz, ur post is funny.

Lol!!! Cat got your tongue? tongue
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 4:24pm On Oct 13, 2020
fati2001:


YES THEY KNOW EMSEVELS.

I didn't generalized!

so what up in writing this?

Lol!!! Whether you generalized or not is beside the point that I made. I used it as an example to buttress my claim that females rarely ever call out other females that make disparaging comments about men, whereas men do call out other men that make disparaging comments about women, in response to MhisTahrah's claim that I was making outrageous statements without backup (evidence) tongue
Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 4:02pm On Oct 13, 2020
MhisTahrah:
Weight of evidence approach indeed!If I did not put that link there, someone like you would have called for my head, now the evidence is staring you right in the eyes and you're bringing up 'weight of evidence approach'.It must be tiring having to defend nl Alfa males.Now, did some males on that thread justify cheating or not?This is not an assertion but a fact.Some DID justify cheating.
What does the 'some', my starting word on this thread stand for then?Let's not forget that the amount of likes they got is directly proportional to the number of those that agree with them.
'Oppressor' in the context in which I used it refers to the men haters. And I was referring to your first counter claim(number 1, remember?)
Funny how you make outrageous statements without backup (evidence) and try to invalidate my claims despite the evidence.You are the one trying to prove this delusion, the onus is on you to provide evidence.The way you're going about this, one would think I disputed that there are no nl misandrists.Everyone would agree however that there are far too much misogynists on nl compared to them as evidenced by their silly comments.
Of course it goes both ways.
I wondered how getting a taste of your medicine would feel.Kindly note that 'you' and 'your' do not refer to yourself directly but the hypocrites in question.

Would you please try to keep your replies short as they're getting quite lengthy.

Your point is moot. If some males justifying cheating on that thread proves your assertion, then some other males condemning cheating on that very same thread disproves your assertion. And if the amount of likes that they got is directly proportional to the number of those that agree with them, then it is my pleasure to inform you that as at the time of typing this response, the highest number of both likes and shares on that thread is 353/19, coming from the moniker “thesicilian” who condemned cheating, and even went further to point out that, irrespective of where it happens, cheating is cheating. If you like, you can go ahead and add the number of likes for those that supported cheating and compare it with the number of likes for those that condemned cheating. The choice is yours!!!
I love the fact that you specifically said that I make outrageous statements without backup. Here’s for starters – I do not even need to start littering this thread with links, simply because some of my assertions are literally evident within this thread itself. Here’s an example - this comment: “MEN.... I MEANT ZOOGERIA HEGOATS THAT ARE HIDING UNDER THE GENDER MALE ARE SENSELESS, THEY ARE MANY ON NAIRALAND.... THEY KNOW THEMSEVELS” was made by the moniker “fati2001 (f)” on page 1 of this very thread. This thread is currently on page 7 and not one female has called out that comment or tackled her, despite the fact that many females have commented on this thread. Not even you who is supposedly trying to point out double standards. On the contrary, there have been momentary back and forth arguments between male monikers with dissenting views of females on this very thread. If I have to start putting up links to prove my claims, it’ll literally be an “overkill.”
You haven't disputed that there are no Nairaland misandrists - this statement is true. You also haven't pointed out or called out any Nairaland misandrists - this statement is also true.
I also love the fact that you agree that comments being hidden/reported goes both ways, despite the fact that when you mentioned it initially, you only stated it from the context of males reporting females.
You still haven’t addressed the fact that the title of your thread is actually a generalization of Nigerian Men. I’ll give you credit though, because you specifically made a clarification by using the phrase “some men” in the actual write-up. That does not, however, negate the fact that your title is still a generalization.
Lastly, it very strange, and dare I say, uncanny, that you are actually trying to suggest to me what the length of my replies should be. Do you realize that you can decide to reply with a lengthier post? You can decide to reply with one word or even one letter (K)? You can even choose not to reply at all – your options are literally numerous. But specifically suggesting to me what the length of my replies should be is an entirely different ball game altogether. In local parlance, “I cannot can” cheesy

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Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 1:05pm On Oct 13, 2020
MhisTahrah:
I failed to state clearly that this thread is based on just one example and its evidence; the 'cheating' thread which I provided the link for, I apologize.I do realize that the double standards and hypocrisy meted out on women by their male counterparts extends beyond the cheating example I gave.This thread will address only cheating as it is the only one I have provided evidence for.
If you would be honest with yourself, you'd see that the instances where females are the oppressors are few and far between.One thing worthy of note is that these females are almost always tackled(even by other females), insulted and have their comments hidden/reported while the males guilty of the same offence are cheered with many likes and quotes.Herein lies the problem.
Defend as you may, you cannot deny the fact that a lot of male nairalanders are hypocrites and exhibit double standards on sensitive issues such as infidelity among married couples, that should be condemned by all and sundry.

Lol!!! I can now see and understand why you chose to restrict the premise of your argument to “just one example.” Superficially, it seems to lend credence to your argument and perhaps, may make sense to you. When examined deeply though, it fails woefully to establish cogency. There’s a very good reason there’s something called a “weight of evidence approach.” Otherwise, anyone can just come up with an assertion/hypothesis, provide one or, at most, two examples, then give themselves a pat on the back for a job well done.
Secondly, the link you provided does not necessarily do justice to your argument, since, as a couple of commenters have rightly noted in this thread (including one with a screenshot for proof), there were also lots of comments from men that condemned cheating in that thread. Furthermore, it is imperative to realize that continuous back and forth between a few monikers with dissenting opinions on a subject matter, thus stretching the thread into several pages, is distinctly different from a preponderance of one gender wholly supporting one specific opinion/school of thought. Learn the difference between the two!!!
When you say that “the instances where females are the oppressors are few and far between” are you again referring to just one specific example? And what is your definition of oppressors? It’ll be important to know these, before I even reply to that statement, so you do not start “side stepping” again, as one Nairalander accurately put it.
Your comment – “these females are almost always tackled (even by other females)” – goes both ways. And permit me to state boldly that there are actually fewer instances where females tackle other females. But I’ll make it even more interesting – In threads with the most vile, hateful, and misogynistic comments from some men, there is no shortage of other men who are tackling them. In threads with the most vile, hateful, and man-hating comments from some women, it is a rarity to see other females tackle their own. A quick example that is very common on Nairaland: When a man makes a downright degrading comment about women, there are other men (and definitely women) that tackle him and apply that same comment to his mother/sister/female relatives. On the contrary, would you be kind enough to show me a thread on Nairaland where a woman makes a downright degrading comment about men, and other females (not men) tackle her and apply that same comment to her father/brother/male relatives? I’ll gladly wait…
Talking about comments being hidden/reported, it also goes both ways. In fact, the last instance of this scenario that I witnessed was a female that reported a male on a “SARS-related thread” and the male’s comments were hidden. This happened just a few days ago. I have chosen not to mention the monikers involved. Do not even dare think that reporting/hiding of comments is a one-way-street.
Lastly, would you be “honest with yourself” (using your own words) and kindly address the irony that the title of your thread (The Hypocrisy of Nigerian Men) is actually a generalization on its own?
Thank you.

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Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 5:06am On Oct 13, 2020
angelfallz:


Nice side stepping.

Lol!!! That lady has the genes of Diego Maradona, Abedi Pele, Ronaldinho and Jay Jay Okocha combined together. Her dribbling prowess is legendary. All of a sudden, she's only interested in one specific example (cheating) of generalization, double standards and bashing of Nigerian women by Nigerian men. Absolutely nothing else matters asides that "one, specific example."
And, isn't it interesting, yet ironical that the title of her thread is actually a generalization on its own? I mean, take a look at the title: "The Hypocrisy of Nigerian Men." How exactly does one try to point out something that they are supposedly displeased with, while at the same time they are literally committing/doing that very same thing? It beats logical reasoning...

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Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 8:29pm On Oct 12, 2020
MhisTahrah:
I'll be replying only number 1 as the rest are irrelevant as far as this thread is concerned.
I personally have never seen such, post the link if you have.I don't see the females going on about how cheating is second nature to us.As a matter of fact, their comments on such threads are usually about advising the wife to pray, be patient, endure, meet a cleric for counselling and so on which I find somehow but this is a topic for another day.I'm not trying to prove misogyny or disprove misandry, my point is why the double standards?Judge an unfaithful wife with the same yardstick you use for unfaithful men.

Lol!!! This is typical. Your title is: "The hypocrisy of Nigerian men." Then you go on to talk about how some Nigerian men generalize and bash Nigerian women whenever a lady makes the news for something bad. And then you cited an example of such a case (the key phrase here being "an example"wink. Then after I have played the Devil's Advocate to show you that such generalization and bashing goes both ways, also citing other examples of scenarios analogical to yours (key phrase here being "other examples"wink, you decide to "restrict" the core of your argument (double standards, generalization, and bashing of women) to only cheating, which you only cited as an example.
Pray tell, is your gripe with double standards, generalization, and bashing of women restricted to only cheating (I seriously doubt this), or you realized that there are far more instances of double standards, generalization, and bashing of men committed by women that you are either not aware of or have chosen to ignore? More importantly, do you realize that "an example" (which you gave) is only one out of numerous other instances (examples) that supports an argument?

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Romance / Re: The Hypocrisy Of Nigerian Men by FearlessOG: 7:05pm On Oct 12, 2020
MhisTahrah:
Some Nigerian men are always quick to generalize and bash Nigerian women whenever a lady makes the news for something bad for example, a married woman having extramarital affairs.But one will never see this set of hypocrites judge cheating married men in such manner.They make senseless comments and the really dumb ones go ahead to insult the wife for her husband's inability to remain faithful.

You might want to go through this thread and see for yourself
https://www.nairaland.com/6174273/cheating-some-men-something-else

Lol!!! The same can be said of "some Nigerian women" on this forum. It's imperative to realize that "both genders" are largely biased in favor of their own gender. However, if you sincerely think that your post and the link that you put up there suffices for a cogent argument supporting your assertion, then I'll gladly play the "Devil's Advocate" and let you know the following:

1. I can provide links on Nairaland showing you where the reverse was the case i.e. some Nigerian women being quick to generalize and bash Nigerian men whenever a man makes the news for something bad for example, a married man having extramarital affairs. But one will never see this set of hypocrites judge cheating married women in such manner. They make senseless comments and the really dumb ones go ahead to insult the man for his wife's inability to remain faithful.

2. I can provide links on Nairaland showing threads where a man was at the receiving end of female brutality (either the man was maimed or killed) and there were very few comments from females that condemned the woman's action. But that's not all; I can even go further and provide links on Nairaland showing threads where a man was at the receiving end of female brutality, and there was NO comment from even a single female condemning the woman's action. Not even from the so-called gender equality advocates (feminists). And to make things more interesting, I'm referring to threads that have at least 3 pages of comments or more. Just imagine that.

3. In contrast to point number 2, there is no single thread on Nairaland that I have come across since when I started viewing as a guest in 2014, that reports male-on-female brutality/violence, and has at least 3 pages of comments or more, that I didn't see men condemning the action of the man. Even if it is just a handful of men that condemned the action of the man.

4. I'll make things more interesting though; I can provide links on Nairaland where the thread is about male-on-female brutality/violence, and the only people that commented and condemned the action of the man were men, despite the fact that this is one of the topics were females and Nairaland feminists usually abound. Contrarily, there is no thread on Nairaland that reports female-on-male brutality/violence and the only people that commented and condemned the action of the woman were women. I haven't come across even one of such threads in my 6+ years as a Nairaland guest/viewer.

There is so much more I can say, but it's definitely not necessary. The bottom line is that if one person is trying to prove misogyny and another person is trying to prove misandry, there are more than enough links, even within Nairaland alone to prove either case.

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