₦airaland Forum

AdaAde:
The existence of a supreme being. That's the food for the Antichrist

Teacher Vs farmer

Yahoo boys Vs sarz

Bress Vs nyash. By nairaland perverts

Virgins Vs non-virgins

and most importantly, PDP VS APC

Dat Br.... vs ny...... reminds me of slim vs curvy, anoda strong argument

what do nigerians argue(argued)about the most, messi vs ronaldo, or wizkid vs davido, merlin vs legend of the seeker, barca vs madrid, jackie vs jet lee, chelsea vs man u, yoruba vs igbo, okocha vs kanu, ben 10 vs avatar, abuja vs lagos, john cena vs randy orton, avengers vs justice league, nikita vs black widow, vin diesel vs the rock, megan fox vs scarlett johannson(i.e who is finer),usher vs chris brown e. t. c arguments dah more than 10 persons can argue for over 6 hrs

RedboneSmith:
Do not be silly. No one is following you around, least of all me. You are not interesting enough for anyone to keep tabs on. I happen to have a rather good memory. I remember things.

Again, come clean. It is a virtual space; no one will/can beat you here.

nairalanders and their 'i must talk last' character sha

[quote author=RedboneSmith post=71593275]Why are you so invested in this issue? Your Nairaland history indicates this is practically all you post/want to talk about. And one can tell from some of your previous posts and comments that you have already formed a resolution on this - so why do you keep asking? Is this some kind of "tribe-baiting"? You don't need to hide behind the curtain of asking innocent questions if it is, you know. Come clean.

Ehen you ve been foloin me round nairaland? you sef why are you so invested in my nairaland history, i do things like dis to learn more from people's opinion and others who want learn can learn also, ull b surprised number of people that will learn something new, not everything is meant to cause a war, somethings are for fun and knowledge, if uve been foloin my post ull know i ve neva encouraged all dis tribal fights we do on NL, and pls stop foloin me it's creepy

R2bees:
The hat is so enticing.. if you know you know. #RoseCartel.

now back to the topic, Ermm, I only know it is. a south-South Dressing. Edo, Bayelsa.

dah reminds me, i have many friends with names like ozioma, okowa, chiamaka, nyekazi dah always tell me they are not from the east, that they are from south south, i like to know the difference between south east and south south?

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Shugavee:
senseless!! Everybody isn’t derailed by sentiments like you. Okowa is trying for delta simple! The fact u hv chosen to be blind n not state the obvious, is non of my business. Everybody around me says the same, just the ungrateful ones bothered that he is delta ibo that hv problems with him.

millions of people are blind but only you can see bah? no problem overseer. wat consign me whether okowa is delta Ibo or delta chinese, come to rivers state n see wat wike is doing dat make ogonis, ijaws, ikwerres all love him despite his tribe, If you do good people will know and if ure saying something stupid people will know

Shugavee:
i hv said what I hv said whivh is right to me..people who can relate will.

okowa dey see una personally bah?

spreado:
You have stay in delta but not well enough, no difference.

maybe okowa is working in asaba, though that's not what I hear, delta leaders can be very tribalistic

spreado:
Ekete what? Please explain where in ekete waterside.. I will be there on Saturday, i want to check it out

ahan, nbtc to ovwian junction dat used to be full of potholes especially in the market side, the road is smooth now, and it's ekete inland road leading to St Peters that he his doing(well as 2months ago when I visited warri last)

during uduaghan regime(d lata part of his regime anyway) he embarked on projects like

Asaba international airport,
Warri central hospital and completed OTH,oghara
rehabilitation of about 100 schools(nana college, warri and St Patricks college, asaba are good examples)
beautification of Effurun to DSC roundabouts road
transcorp power limited that powers ondo, edo, delta
Delta mall
new DBIR office, warri
free hospital service for 0-5 yrs n pregnant women
free primary and secondary education
creation of jobs for skilled n unskilled
good business wit d oil companies(except shell)
redesign of government house, asaba
enerhen n about 100 other roads got new looks
Temporarily introduced BRT to Warri and Asaba
Bridges to riverine communities
flyover bridges in asaba and warri
sports development
e. t. c........
warri industrial park(uncompleted)
oleri/ogwashi uku aquatic/wildlife park(uncompleted)
e. t. c....

and as at then companies like DSC, Shell, Seplat were not active, now that they are Ifeanyi is doing neighbor to neighbor road n small scale businesses
List okowa's projects let's compare

spreado:
Name the roads, please

very few interstreet roads, I know of two, ovwian market road n ekete waterside road

spreado:
All road in delta is tied, which of em did he tied? Who did he help with business and how exactly did he made warri, sapele, abraka n ughelli look good. I live in warri, school in oghara (i visit sapele almost every weekend) im from ughelli and i visit there also, Abraka i can't say

actually the business part is true, I know Pepo it has helped, and i know he did one or two roads in Warri, but my point is Delta is not a civil servant state, it's an Oil state, we should be thinking of bigger projects than LG roads n small scale business, we the taxes of shell and other IOCs plus oil money to do first of a kind projects

userplainly:
After main Abuja n Lagos...... somebody should please tell me a state more developed n modern than Delta! Delta is like a small country with different cities! people weh never comot for their house dey talk! I doh travel man n I'm still saying it again.... if Delta gets a good government we'll give Lagos a run for her money

haba! delta 3rd after Lagos n Abuja? dah na overhype na. Although I agree dat besides Lagos no oda SW state, not even oyo and ogun can compete with delta, the idea dat we are underdeveloped is d "wrongest" idea in the world, we may not be like Abuja but we are definitely better than 85% of the nation, I knew this when I started travelling outside Warri which I thought was poor until I discovered that many of the places I thought we good were actually far below delta's level.

If you doubt mention a state you feel is better than delta and we'll do one-on-one comparism.

I also agree that with good leadership, Delta(infact all the south south states and even south east states) can, infact WILL overtake Lagos easily.

Shugavee:
not true!! Okowa is trying , I won’t even lie. Way better than Uduaghan,,, , all state road in delta, is tied n I know people he helped with businesses!! My aunties that are government workers r being paid!! It’s only local government workers that ain’t being paid n that’s not his fault. Tho I know he pays late. He isn’t doing for only his people, warrri , sapele n abraka n ughelli r looking real good!! When I went visiting I was impressed.

maybe bcuz im here in burutu, but 4rm my own perspective delta was moving better under uduaghan(at least Warri was), maybe he didn't do much in asaba it's normal for delta governors to favour their tribe, ibori as urhobo favoured the urhobos, uduaghan as itsekiri favoured d itsekiris and dahs why he hammered on Warri, and now if you notice ifeanyi from Ika is stylishly doing same thing. we are still waiting for Ijaw, isoko and Kwale governor dat will help those of us from these places

NaijaNaWaa:
Paper weight. He is going the way of Peterside = FAILURE. APC has zero presence in Rivers State.

besides edo, apc has zero presence in south south

gist2000:
Please we need updates on how the exam went down in LAGOS and ABUJA. Because it was a mess in PH and BENIN.

BENIN? you mean WARRI. or was there a center in benin? cuz it would have been closer for me

Probz:
It’s only on this Nairaland that I’ve heard that claim.

here in the west, they believe it strongly

Probz:
It’s only on this Nairaland that I’ve heard that claim.

here in the west, they believe it strongly

Christistruth00:
Egusi soup is “confirmed”Yoruba Soup , before it went global.

it's like you are yoruba, what makes u guys so sure the soup originated from the west

Christistruth00:
Have you eaten Egusi soup before? Give it a try.

egusi is a general soup na, it's only in the west that I hear Yorubas say "egusi is Yoruba soup"

OK enlighten us, what makes a particular set of people to be the same tribe

selemempe:
nyen nyen nyen noise. U should know this now...as far as we are under one nigeria, ikwere is not igbo...but if any event happens in d future and nigeria collapses, ikwerre and ph would be joined fully with igboland.

Why do u think that after many years, the igbos have refused to stop calling ikwerre ppl igbo? It is because we want to keep the debate alife. If nigeria falls, ikwerre as a distinct tribe falls with it. Thank God igbos dominate p.h

Why u minorities from ss cant hands off ikwerre and p.h is wat i dont know. Its not as if u guys dont have access to ocean.

wey you, we minorities feed this country, so call us with respect

and pH is not Igbo dominated, Igbos don't own a grain of sand in ph, ph is shared between d ikwerres and d ijaws. and I mean main ph town itself, I stay in ph so if you tell me odawise I'll know ur lying

prolog2:
So basically, yoruba and igbo just believe they can go on sharing other people's land. And to the yoruba, it is ok to do it since the igbo are also doing it ?

nor mind dem, they Even said opobo is Igbo land

OlaoChi:
Rotimi is not an Ikwere name
Invalid argument

former rivers governor, Rotimi Amaechi

That is hw they said Uduaghan, name of former delta governor, is not an itsekiri name

OlaoChi:
Rotimi is a Yoruba name... So now are we to say Ikwere are Yoruba because one man you know has a Yoruba name?

Exactly! Since you can't say Rotimi makes ikwerres Yoruba, then you can't say amadi makes ikwerres Igbo

an ikwerre woman, exactly like an ijaw woman

selemempe:
in ikwere's case i can.

This is oil politics

I ask again and again...wat is the difference btw ikwere culture and their closest igbo neighbours in abia or imo?
Just tell me a difference...any difference

I stay in Ph and i know for fact that generally Abia and other eastern Igbos dont understand ikwerre n ukwuani when dey speak, (they may only be able 2 pick out few words) anambra Igbo may not fully understand owerri Igbo, but they understand far more of it than ikwerre. If not tell the meaning of Rotimi in Igbo, or Ighoroya, Ovhunda, epirikom, mbene, ajah, otefe?

Most ikwerre people dress like the kalabaris, and dance like them.

You said ikwerre claim of non Igbo is oil politics, but dont know that an ikwerre man does something wrong Igbos are quick to refute"he's not Igbo o"

And most importantly, ikwerrres n ukwuanis themselves have said they are not Igbo, and I dont see why you outside a house, knows more about the house than those staying inside.

selemempe:
but ikwere ppl have actually mingled more with other igbos than with any other ethnic group.

Ph is filled with igbo people. Ikwere was part of eastern region. So this ur example no follow

But tell me wat is the difference in ikwere culture and abia state culture

MY GUY, I REPEAT AGAIN, YOU CANT KNOW PEOPLE'S CULTURE MORE THAN THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES!

selemempe:
africa can be classified as one ethnic group in a place like america...just the same way whites are classified as one in america....but wen it comes to europe...u get the british and the french...wen u come to british u get the english and the welsh...wen u come to the english...u get the liverpool person and the anglia person etc.

It is like that everywhere. Even in india...there is the kerela and the tamil etc. Indians have one main race, a few ethnic groups and then many tribes.

Now on the case of an ikwere man...i hear him when he speaks his 'ikwere language' more than i hear an abikiliki man when he speaks his 'igbo dialect'. Which shows u that all that are just actually igbo dialects.

U said that to d whiteman all blacks have same culture? That is false. The whiteman encountered different cultures during colonisation of africa and they are well documented.
See wat they said about the ikwere ppl themselves below:

If you understood the ikwerre, it depends on the dialect of the ikwerre. In PH, I know how many Igbos come for the first time and say they can't understand the ikwerre they hear. But apart from language ikwerre n ukwuani have other qualities that shows they different tribes.

And you're seriously bring Google's definition of ikwerre, same google will tell you isoko is urhobo, and efik is Ibibio.

I've noticed only those from the 3 major tribes will say ikwerre, ukwuani, ika is Igbo and itsekiris is Yoruba. Ikwerre themselves always hammer that they are not Igbo, and I've never heard an itsekiris saying he's a yoruboid person.

I STILL MAINTAIN! YOU CANT KNOW PEOPLE'S CULTURE BETTER THAN THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES

selemempe:
this is a typical ikwere dressing...any difference with igbo?
So ikwere dont eat igbo food? Wow.

The problem is that u dont know the meaning of ethnicity and tribe.

Igbo is an ethnicity
While wawa igbo or ikwere is a tribe or otherwise called clan.

What is ethnicity?
The state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition.

Tribe?
a group of people, often of related families, who live together, sharing the same language, culture, and history

Ethnic group is larger and more national while tribes are smaller and more local. E.g the 12 tribes of isreal. Are they of different ethnic group? No.

In England, the man from london and the man from birmingham have different tribes but same ethnic group.

If things are the way its supposed to be...ikwere will be in a larger igbo nation..just as efik and ibibio will be the same nation.

The white men used our head.

I did not say ikwere don't eat some Igbo foods o.

To me, mbaino, ngwa are dialects of Igbo nt tribes, ikwerre too has its different dialects

To the white man, all blacks have same cultural and traditional values, that is why there is no Igbo American, Ijaw american, just African american, so from your logic all Africans are same ethnic group

selemempe:
if it speaks igbo and dresses igbo then it is igbo.

But for my own education bro...can tell me the difference btw an ikwere man in rivers and an nkwere man in imo

Efik speak Ibibio, does not make efik Ibibio
Isoko speak Urhobo, doesn't make isoko urhobo
Many northern tribes speak hausa language doesn't make them Hausa

and again, ikwerre dress more like ijaw(kalabari) than eastern Igbo, also eat more ijaw foods, and dance more like the tribes of rivers state