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magicjack:
I have noticed a certain mentality dat the yorubas n some northeners have, i went to ibadan recently n alot of people were calling me 'omo ibo' wen i correct them im not igbo, im 4rm rivers state, they will say 'ehn its the same thing', some will even follow you to argue your own tribe,lol, they will say that there are 3 major tribes in nigeria and as far as they know all edo, niger delta and calabar pepo are igbo.
Please I didnt open this thread to quarrel with anybody or cause disunity o, we are all brothers in nigeria, i just want to know what gave them(especially the yorubas) that funny mindset

its like the way many southeners see all northeners(besides kogi, kwara and benue)as hausa,

try and see it from their side, give many pepo(nt just yorubas) names like nkanga, ozioma, ufuoma, awulika, ajunwa, onodugo, umukoro, 75% wont know which is igbo n which is not, for the yorubas i think their lack of travelling experience also plays a role

sarrki:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/11/herdsmen-say-all-lands-belong-to-buhari-attack-rape-chase-delta-women-from-farms/

where d youths of the land, where is d town vigilante, where the niger delta militants, the rugged warri boyz, they sud step up n deal with dis buharists lyk i no dey can, this is rubbish now

TAO11:
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Thank you Opiletool for your time, and I commend your curiosity even more.


On the Yoruba-Egypt link, the standard submission of modern historians and anthropologists is what I summarized above. They all agree on a North-East Africa [precisely ancient Egypt and ancient Nubia (a colony of ancient Egypt)] origin for the people of Southern Nigeria (the Itshekiris and the "Yorubas" to be precise).

*They examined the oral traditions of these people (which admits they are from that North-East region of Africa) and corroborated them with archeological evidences, written documentation from other parts of the world (e.g. Egypt itself).

For example, I myself once had a similar discussion with a friend from Ethiopia (North-East Africa) in which I told him about Oduduwa. Guess what! He was shocked at hearing the name, and he himself shocked me when he informed me that the word "Oduduwa" (same spelling, same pronunciation) is a word in his own language (Oromo language), meaning "One who speaks" probably on behalf of others.

We talked further, and I mentioned "Oromiyan". Again, there was similar reaction from both of us, because he told me that "Oromiyan" (which they spell using English letters as: Oromiya or Oromia) is the name of the district or region of Ethiopia he hailed from. He further told me that Oromo people are not restricted to Ethiopia, he said they are found in other parts of East and North-East Africa.


*They examined the culture and religion of these people (the ancient "Yoruba" people and the ancient Egyptians) and found striking resemblance (which further bolsters other available evidence such as the fact that the ancient Egyptians and Nubians were Negros, etc.). For instance, many pre-dynastic Egyptian deities are still been worshipped in parts of "Yoruba" land up till today. they also are present among the Itsekiris till today.

(A) Some of the deities include: "Adumu" (known among and the Itsekiris and "Yorubas" as "Adumu" or "Adamu" ); "Hepi" (known among and the Itsekiris and "Yorubas" as "Ipi" ); "Ausar" (known among and the Itsekiris and "Yorubas" as "Ausa" ); "Horise" (known among and the Itsekiris and "Yorubas" as "Oritse" or "Orisa" ), and "S'mi" (known among and the Itsekiris and "Yorubas" as "Smi" or "Simi" ); "Nam" (known among and the Itsekiris and "Yorubas" as "Inama" ); etc.

[The Itsekiris had great religious influence on its immediate neighbors (including the Binis) by initiating them into many of these gods and belief systems. From the "Umale-Okun" worship by the Edo, to the "Agban" ancestral worship by the Urhobos recently in 1949, as well as the "Ipi" system by the Urhobos even more recently in 2005.].


(B) Bronze/Brass casting (using a method known today as the "lost wax process" is another unique and distinctive aspect of the culture (art) of the Yorubas (the Ifes precisely) that is strikingly similar to that of the ancient Egyptians.

[Although some may contend that the Binis also casted metal, it is important to remind them that the Binis' oral tradition admits that casting was taught to them by Ile-Ife. The Binis tradition mentioned that Igue-Igha (or Igueghae) was sent from Uhe (Ife) (at the beseech of Oba Oguola to his spiritual overlord, the Ooni) to civilize them into the art and science of metal casting. The purpose was to enable the Binis start producing themselves, instead of being entirely dependent on importation from Ife. Igue-Igha is still venerated in Bini up till today at his shrine at the house of Chief Ine].


[Also, others may contend that the excavations of artifacts in SouthEast Nigeria shows that metal casting was not unique and distinctive to the "Yorubas". It is important to remind such people that the Igbos, according to their own admittance, are not autochthonous to their present area, their migration (most likely from outside Africa) came later after their present area have been visited by earlier migrants (the "Yoruba" and Itsekiri migrants from Egypt).
In fact some evidences which proves this to be the case include: (1) The presence of places called "Ife" in the South East Nigeria (which appears to corroborate Ile-Ife's tradition that there have been many Ife's before Ile-Ife such as Ife-Oodaye, Ife-Oyeelagbo, Otu-Ife, among others); (2) The claim found in some Igbo people's traditions that Oduduwa left to Ile-Ife from Nri; (3) The fact that some of the Igb-Ukwu artifacts (glass and carnelian beads specifically) have been found to be strikingly identical to those of Old Cairo (Egypt); (4) and lastly, the dating of the Ugbo-Ukwu artifacts shows a earlier date as compared to those excavated at Ile-Ife. All these shows that the Bronze and other artifacts from the South East were remnants of a civilization (The "Yorubas' " ) that had earlier visited the area centuries before the Igbo's arrival. The Iwo Eleru burial artifact (South West Nigeria) with a radiocarbon date of about 12,000 B.C. also further bolsters the evidence of the "Yorubas' " earlier presence in Southern Nigeria].


(C) Dance is another aspect of the unique and distinctive cultural similarity between the "Yoruba" and the Egyptian cultures. Those who have watched the Zar ritual dance conducted by special women among Fellahin in Egypt saw the replica of Yoruba dance during religious activities. A place called "Owodaiye" in today's Ethiopia (of which Egypt was at some point in history a colony) also further strengthens the link.


[Many experts have argued that the different batches of migration from Egypt to the Atlantic coast which started as early as the Hyksos' invasion of Egypt (2,000 B.C. to 1,500 B.C.) signifies different home-coming migration of a group of people who knew that their ancestors had migrated northwards from this "Nigeria" area. The evidence adduced by these scholars being that archaeological finds shows that the "Nigeria" region have been continuously occupied from around 40,000 B.C. to 65,000 B.C. by the Nok culture who have been argued to be of course the original inhabitants of southern Nigeria some of which first migrated northwards and then later southwards in the different waves of migration of the "Yorubas"].

(D) Some scholars have considered the direction of burial of the ancient Egyptians as evidence of Nigeria as the original home. When the ancient Egyptian died their corpses are buried with their faces facing South West (the direction of West Africa --- home of the "Yorubas" ).

(E) It was only recently I found out from a friend doing their PhD in Biostatistics in a U.S. University that the sickle cell disorder is generally known in medical discourse to be a trait peculiar to West Africans. However, a recent analysis of the genes of a minority Negro people in Egypt shows the presence of the trait.

(F) Another evidence of link is the landmark figure known as Shango, the Alaafin (arguably Olu-Afin) of Oyo whose mom is Tapa. Shango actually not only ruled a West African empire, he also ruled in the North of Africa.
(I almost couldn't believe my eyes when I first saw this information been confirmed in sources outside Africa. What led to my perplexity when I first saw this was the very later date that has usually been speculated for most of these figures: Shango, Oromiyan, Oduduwa, etc. for instance the staff of Oromiyan is shown by radiocarbon dating to be centuries earlier than the date generally speculated to mark the start of the Oduduwa dynasty. The corrections and revisions are just being made only recently).

Shango according to this source was well known beyond Africa. Stories were told about Oba Koso (an ethnonym of Shango). Pedral quoted Morie's work in the Coptic text - "Obba Kousso" as he was known, noting that he "was King Shango and a king of Kush who ruled north and west of Africa but was born in Ife". Morie had no idea where Ife was.


(G) Another evidence is a Yoruba Osun serpentine staff crowned by a bird, and carried by initiates of Obàtálá which bears striking resemblance to Caduceus, the traditional symbol of the Greek god Hermes. But the Greek pantheon and theology itself was influenced by no other than the Egyptian's.


(H) I will close out by adducing linguistic evidence. There are very many word-word correlation between Egyptian and Yoruba languages which not only sound similarly but also having similar/identical meanings. The similarity/identicality are too striking and too numerous to be simply explained away by coincidence.


The following are few examples:

"Ere" an ancient Egyptian word for "Python/Serpent" is the same as "Ere" an ancient Yoruba word for "Python/Serpent".

"Horise" an ancient Egyptian word for "a great god" is the same as "Orise" an ancient Yoruba word for "a great god".

"Sen" an ancient Egyptian word for "a group of worshippers" is the same as "Sen" an ancient Yoruba word (especially Ijebu word) for "to worship".

"Ta" an ancient Egyptian word for "sell" is the same as "Ta" an ancient Yoruba word for "sell".

"Sueg" an ancient Egyptian word for "a fool" is the same as "Suegbe" an ancient Yoruba word for "a fool".

"Enru" an ancient Egyptian word for "fear" is the same as "Eru" an ancient Yoruba word for "fear"

"Kun" an ancient Egyptian word for "a brave man" is the same as "Ekun" a Yoruba title for "a brave man".

"Osiris" an ancient Egyptian word "water god" is the same as "Oshiri" a Yoruba word for a "water god".

"Oni" an Egyptian title of "Osiris" is the same as "Ooni" the Yoruba royal title of "Ile-Ife kings".

"Omi" an ancient Egyptian word for "water" is the same as "Omi" ancient Yoruba word for "water".

"Dudu" refers in ancient Egypt to the "Black" image of Osiris and is the same as "Dudu" the Yoruba word for "Black".

"Ash" an ancient Egyptian for "invocation" is the same as "Ashe" an ancient Yoruba word for "invocation"

"Budo" an ancient Egyptian word for "dwelling place" is the same as "Ibudo" an ancient Yoruba word for "dwelling place"

"Kot" an ancient Egyptian word for "build" is the same as "Ko" an Yoruba word for "build"

"Horuw" a middle Egyptian word for "head" is the same as "Oruwo" an ancient Yoruba word (especially Ijebu word) for "head".

"Kurubu" an ancient Egyptian word for "round" is the same as "Kurubu" an ancient Yoruba word for "round".

"Khu" an ancient Egyptian word for "to kill" is the same as "Ku" an ancient Yoruba word for "die".

"Ak" an ancient Egyptian word for "male" is the same as "Ako" an ancient Yoruba word for "male".

"Ro" an ancient Egyptian word for "talk" is the same as "Ro" an ancient Yoruba word for "talk".

"Edjo" an ancient Egyptian word for "cobra" is the same as "Ejo" an ancient Yoruba word for "snake".

"Anubis" an ancient Egyptian word for "an evil deity" is the same as "Onubi" an ancient Yoruba word for "a evil person".

"Kan" an ancient Egyptian word for "one" is the same as "Okan" a Yoruba word for "one".

"Shekiri" an ancient Egyptian word for "a water god" is the same as "Shekiri" a Yoruba for word for "a water god".

[It appears the name "Itsekiri" comes from this Egyptian god "Shekiri" especially considering the migration acknowledged by the Itsekiris' oral tradition which I made reference to in my earlier reply]



There are even more evidence, but the foregoing ones are sufficient (I believe) to establish firmly that there is an Egypt-Itsekiri-"Yoruba" link; or more specifically that the "Yorubas" and Itsekiris migrated from ancient Egypt; or even more specifically that the migrations southwards from ancient Egypt relates to different home-comings by a group of people whose original abode was the "Nigeria" region.


Thank you for your time ...

oboy! this is good, even in warri I didnt know all dis, well i dont know how true this but there's definitely many strong points, so with this I guess its really likely that itsekiris are probably from yoruba after all, u do well

but, im nt sayin ure wrong, look at it dis way, the fact that the yorubas came from egypt but we cant say the yorubas are egyptians, they came from there but are seperate culture now, same thing, as close as they may ve been once, the current itsekiri culture is far diff from yoruba(even d ilaje of ondo), so i feel if we are going to see itsekiri n yoruba d same then its jus lyk seeing bini/esan/etsako as the same

Adminisher:
Very corrupt guy Okotie Eboh.
Niger Delta should should also face the truth, he was a partner to Northerners and a key institutor of the current state of things they are fighting against. Very corrupt, bribe taking guy.
Nzeogwu talked about corruption during his coup speech.. he had people like Okotie Eboh in mind.

see as u talk, so sure, as if u knew him personally, didnt u read bout d way we read, why r u so sure he was corrupt

nams77:
My brother God bless you. At least we still have honourable people around. Look at how you enumerate some of uduaghan's projects even though he didn't perform to expectation and he also embezzled money.
One bellicose imp by name dogmanation or dog man couldn't even list one single project. Rather he was busy hurling insults. I decided to allow him wallow in his childish ignorance and misery.
No matter how u try to clean a pig, it will still wallow in muddy water. I have kept quiet to allow him bask in his ignorance.
A Randy, ill-educated oaf.smh

Lol

TAO11:
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oh, is dat what i wrote? i meant "im not one of those pepo dat lyk claiming right"

nams77:
For the last time dunder head, give me list of things okowa has done. You have not been able to mention them you little imp.
Since you can't mention any verifiable project, I refuse to respond to you henceforth.
Bellicose imp

uduaghan projects dat d whole state new about
-Free schooling and health
-Asaba international airport
-ban of okada, n introduction of 'uduaghan bus' n Brt buses
-st patricks college asaba, nana college warri n many other schools
-bringing shoprite to warri

what is okowa's general acheivements besides d SmaMedSca businesses which is too small a project for an oil state

Mind you, i said 'projects known round d state' so dont come n tell me 'come to agbor and see' u didnt ve 2 come to warri b4 knowing uduaghan gave free health care n all those other acheivements

not saying uduaghan was good o, but that okowa is better? well! if u can prove it

scholes0:
Itsekiri relationship with Urhobo and Ijaw is ephemeral and lateral in nature. i.e it is as a result of the virtue of them being neighbors. It can also change at any time depending on the prevailing circumstances. Consider a scenario where itsekiris became a province in Western Nigeria, their visible culture would significantly shift more towards what you are referring to as the general Yoruba culture now, even if they will still retain some uniqueness. Take for example, even now, despite the fact that Itsekiris are not in the SW, many Itsekiris already wear Agbadas.....

What you don't know is that to a large extent, people's material culture is also shaped by politics and regionalization, especially in a country like Nigeria. On the other hand, The Itsekiri relationship with Yoruba is more nodal/ vertical in nature...i.e (direct descent) and can never be changed. All the primordial villages and clans in itsekiri land came from Yorubaland, except perhaps Ode Itsekiri and the Royal Court.
Itsekiris will simply be like their Ilaje brothers after 30 years in the SW, believe it or not. Apoi a lost Ijaw clan in Ondo state have become fully assimilated as Yorubas, and You think Itsekiri is so different from Yoruba culture, because they eat banga and starch, while Yoruba eat Okra and Eba? Or because Itseke women wear heavy coral beads while Yoruba women tie gele lol

Now all that being said, when comparing Yoruba and itsekiri, the mistake you are making is comparg Itsekiri to OYO which is the face of Yoruba culture, being the hegemonic force in most of Yorubaland for centuries. That is understandable. The relationship between Itsekiri and certain Yoruba groups are much more obvious that others. Compare Itsekiri and Owo Or Okitipupa for example it becomes much more visible.

Moreso, Itsekiris do not come from Ginuwa, unless you are suggesting that ginuwa is older than Itsekiri as a people.
Also what is the Yoruba world view pls? You seem to be suggesting that Yorubas as a people have a set world view.... Traditionally We have monarchies, they have a monarchy, infact the traditional titles of more than a few cities in Yorubaland are Olus, Mushin, Ilaro and Igbokoda immediately come to mind. Clan chiefs in Eastern Yorubaland are known as Olojas, same in Itsekiri as Olajas. Our traditional religion believe in Eboras, Imales, Ifa/divinition Ogun, Olokun, Ayelala (in Ilaje and Ikale)... Etc. SAME obtains in itsekiri

Those are the bone of a culture (LANGUAGE, Societal structure and Traditional RELIGION) , , every other thing you see are just meat.

the problem with many of these theories is there is no real proof supporting them, they are based on logical guesses which maybe true or false, there is no proof that itsekiris came from yoruba, they may be diff people who lost their language to yoruba for some reason, if you know the south south you'll know its not uncommon for tribes to lose their culture for a foreign one

nams77:
Why are you resorting to insult na. Give me empirical evidence of what he has done and stop being petty.

U are still a child from the outrage of your post. Go play with sand abeg.

I won't even dignify you with a response again, as this will suffice. Bye little lad

me i just need names of d projects okowa did, dats all, i can bring pics of uduaghan's own, but okowa is lyk no one can name his projects, projects u do dat d pepo dat see is dat one project?

TAO11:
Regardless of what the average Itsekiri person today thinks, his own tradition claims they are part of the Olukumi folk and as such they are sons and daughters of Oduduwa.

A quick google search on the internet will show u that the Itsekiri language is regarded as

"a major branch of the Yoruboid group of languages".

In fact, from my research I have come to realize that the Itsekiri dialect (as well as other Eastern flank Yoruba dialects like Ekiti, Yagba, Owo, Ijebu, Kabba) and to some extent the Ife dialect are the most ancient Yoruba dialects.

We can discuss this further if you're interested

im does pepo dat lyk claim right so ill like 2 learn further

but i just want 2 state that we sud not rely on google for info cuz google can to be misleading on these type of issues, and again nigerians(especially yorubas n igbos) need to change the mentality that the same language automatically means the same tribe or ethnic group or pepo

scholes0:
I'll come back to you with details because right now, I can't type long notes.



You are knocking yourself out, seriously.
You started it yourself, by making a list of ethnic groups that ARE NOT the same but share close kinship, and then are getting confused over same issue. The strongest links itsekiris have with any other ethnic group are with Yorubas.
Is Epie Urhobo?

thank God u know i said ethnic groups with CLOSE simliarities, ive lived in warri so i know dat apart from language (which is not even that close) they is no other cultural similarity btw itsekiri n yoruba. itsekiri are believe to come from bini lead by ginuwa, their customs are edo related, in terms of other aspects of culture, (food, dressing, dance, way of life) they re FAR FAR CLOSER to ijaw n urhobo sef than to yorubas

Sinistami:
Thank you o. Epie is more farther apart from Urhobo than Itshekiri from Yoruba. other than that I my self still think Itshekiri isn't Yoruba because language isn't the only thing to define an ethnic group. They entire culture and Traditions and worldview is very different from Yoruba and Closer to Its Neighbours Urhobos Ijaw and Edo etc.

epp me remove epie, its a slip of fingers, its based on what sagbama urobo grl told me, but 4 tsekiri I lived in warri so i ve first hand knowledge

its only in this nairaland that i hear that itsekiri is yoruba o

abeg okowa has not try, he has done anything the whole state enjoys, at least under uduaghan the whole state enjoyed free education n health care but uduaghan sef nor try, as for ibori maybe i was too young to remember any significant thing he did

scholes0:
And who told you that?
Also who told you that?

Urun ti Oritse se gbe ene.

What God has done for us. (even though you compleltely mutilated the spelling)

What you don't understand is that Yoruba is a series of dialects and cultures, from coastal to upland from north to south, east to west, not a monolithic language, although we have general Yoruba. While Itsekiri may not be understandable to certain sections of the Yoruba populace, it is very much understandable to others.

ok u got it, it seems ur well versed on the subject so i'll lyk to enlighten us on the other similarities btw yoruba n itsekiri, bcuz dressing different, food very diff, music n dance diff, customs(edo lyk), so if u can teach us cuz i dont how do they relate 2 yoruba again o, n ive lived in warri, but we learn evriday

scholes0:
lol faulty.

It should be Yoruba/Itsekiri.

All the others are legit.

i dont think so, cuz besides language itsekiris ve nothing else in common with yoruba o. Even the languages just sound the same but in truth one cannot understand the other

ill prove it, i dear any yoruba here to interpret d itsrkiri phrase "uruntioritse segbe neh"

magicjack:
see how they are just facing urhobo when the pepo critizing okowa here r nt even deltans, d ethnic distrust in SS annoys me.

well d way i see it i guess diff governors performed in diff areas, coupled with d fact dat deltans r tribalistic is the reason for des mixed opinions.

from my own side o, i dont think okowa tried at all, he is busy doing roads, how can an oil state like delta be doing inner state roads and SmaMedSc business as your only projects for 4 years,

they say uduagan didnt try but he renovated over 100 public schools, roads in warri, did 2 standard hospitals, did asaba international airport, briefly brought brt, flyover in asaba n warri, brought shoprite, an uncompleted oleri n ogwashuku aquatic n wildlife park which okowa could not continue, not to mention prposed warri industrial park, free education n health care, the only bad thing i remember from uduaghan regime is dah shell left warri(though i heard okowa has brought dem back, e do well)

wat ibori did dat urhobo pepo r hyping o, i cant remember. maybe uduaghan was useless in other places but in warri his work was felt. okowa sef im not seeing his handwork, an oil state should ve beta projects dan inter town roads.

In all though, all delta state governors have messed up for allowing selfishness n tribal n political sentiments prevent good governance

Hmmn, for the sake of our own education, someone sud list okowa's acheivements let me know how to vote next year.

with pics if possible

scholes0:
Saying Warri is "owned" by three tribes is just people trying to be politically correct and neutral in an ethnically volatile region like the Niger Delta. Unless people are referring to Warri township plus all the places around it for up to 20 miles.
To your 2nd Q, are ijaws allowed to contest major offices in Warri south? that is news to me, although i wouldn't be surprised if it were so, after all Igbos that are not even from South-West can contest for elective posts in Lagos talk less of Ijaws living in Warri South that are from same state, same region, same environment.

yes, but there was a time only indigenes could run for some offices and ijaws were strongly eligible even back then

nams77:
My brother I have no personal interest in this but the bitter truth is that okowa has failed abysmally. I am 200% on ground here and I know what is going on. I interact with the average person on the street and the report is shocking. I have it on good record that some core PDP fans won't mind voting the opposition in Delta state. A lot of persons have told me that and someone even mentioned Same on this thread. As for me, I'm still sitting on the fence but I'm looking for a credible alternative to the incumbent.

abi, all politicians r d same, hated by people from all tribes even their own(weve many urhobos dah hate ibori, tsekiris dat hate uduaghan n agbors dah hate okowa, not to mention ijaws dat hated jonathan) its only God dat can epp nigeria

but truth is with all dis tribalism, delta still try for spread development o, if you know rivers state b4 2016 its was 100% port harcourt until wike started branching out small, even edo is 90% benin

utenwuson:
With the allocation delta state receive monthly plus 13 percent derivatives, one will think that delta will be very develop in terms of infrastructure and great development, but come to asaba.... It's like lokoja, apart from rivers and akwa ibom, no Niger delta state is develop according to money received

delta could do beta but saying its not developed is a huge lie, delta is d state with the most spread development not concentrated on one city, i cant count up to five states dat are better than delta in dat aspect, and warri is very nice for a city dats not the state capital

overall delta is more developed 85% of d country, if u doubt lets do one on one comparism with ur state

Excellentmind:
Warri is not the only city in Delta State. There are other places that need attention and that is what the government is doing.

i heard he brought shell back to ogunu in warri, datz good, but nwanne which airport r u talking about?

bigfrancis21:
Rather than giving an objective answer to the question posed by the poster, especially as it relates to possible cultural and ancestral reasons for the denial observed, you instead decided to take it personally and throw tantrums, especially coming from you known to behave properly on this forum.

nor mind dem, later they will claiming dat its igbos dat are immature, nonsense entities

well dis adds to d endless list of pepo with very close culture but r still diff tribes like:

hausa/fulani
igbo/ika/ikwerre/ukwani
efik/ibibio/oron/annang
urhobo/isoko/epie
ogoni/eleme

n now
yoruba/okun/ilorin

good to know

elbringo:
Your piece is quite inspiring but there are countless amount of places in the world named by the British that still exist to today. Port Harcourt is a lovely name and shows its a place for anyone. The name Igwe Ocha sounds Igbo and more so they named everything else to suit the English language like Bonny, Okrika, Buguma, Abonema, Ikwerre and we all loving the names.

yah i prefer d name port harcourt too, for one it sounds sweeter and again i dont think giving a multiethnic city an igbo name is a good idea, it may make ijaws n ogonis feel overshadowed, giving how tribal sensitive rivers state n the niger delta as a whole can be

i dont know if they are ijaws in warri south LGA, but ogbe ijoh, okerenkoko are all part of warri city even though they may not look like city places. warri city is not restricted to warri south LGA anyway, and these days even uvwie, udu n agbarho r trying to claim to be part of warri

magicjack:
the thing is since my yorubas n hausas think SS is igbo, when they see a fine ishan, isoko, ijaw or ibibio girl they will say 'see fine Igbo girl' Igbo will get the praise.

I remember in lagos when one yoruba guy was calling names of fine famous Igbo girls, i was surprised he was calling names like:- Ini edo, agbani darego, ruth kadiri, mercy aigbe, belinda effah, nancy isime, eva alordiah, amanda ebeye e.t.c, as Igbo girls? thing is many things people respect igbos for is actually cus dey confuse SS with SE. i didnt say this to bring fight o

LOL!!!!

i remember my days in uni ibadan when we did cultural day, we were grouped into four groups: yoruba(SW), igbo(SE), south south(include igbos in SS), and Hausa + northern minorities(including igbo n yoruba in benue, kogi n kwara).

based on yorubas thinking, they thought all those crazy ekombi n owigiri dance were owned by igbos, so they always mocked SS thinking we have no culture cuz they felt if we had they would ve known, but they knew our culture, they were just mistaking it for igbo. To confuse them more, while north, west, east were speaking hausa, yoruba, igbo, SS was speaking pidgin due to different tribes so they felt we didnt even have our own languages, we were the real underdogs, or so they thought?

going to the cultural day the SE were the favourites, on the day itself, SS killed the show

in dance, combining the acrobactic ishans, with the efik ekombi dance, the urhobo kiki dance, n the ijaw quick waist twisting, we won the dance competition

in dressing, a male dressed as an ibibio man, and a female dressed as a bini woman, we took fashion too

in food, our arsenal of afang, banga, bini groundnut soup, ofe nsala(so it doesnt like we are sidelining the igbos from SS) eaten with rivers' onunu, itsekiri's gun bobo, delta's starch n general akpu, we took food

in folklore dramatizing, we didnt need an interpreter since we were speaking pidgin, though strong warri kind of pidgin, and we acted the drama in form of a comedy, we won it handsdown too

Four competitions, 1st in all four, they are only two regions in nigeria, South South and others

viscerion:
i think d problem of warri n ph is dat both cities are multiethnic

what of benin and yenagoa, these are monotribal cities

ariesbull:
Please bear in mind that we have Irish names and English names ...these are not it


And these are not Irish names they are English names

Irish and English are completelydifferent languages. They are members of different branches of the Indo-European language family, Irish is Celtic and English is Germanic. Irishvocabulary is very different. The Irishalphabet is smaller.


Please, Irish don't speak English as a first language....they speak English as a form of second language just like us due to conquest ...don't mistake this


They are completely unrelated. Irish is an ancient Celtic language closely related to Scottish Gaelic and Manx and more distantly related to Welsh, Cornish and Breton. It is completely unrelated to English except at the level that English, Irish, Russian and Sanskrit are all Indo-European tongues.

dis guy, is like ure from all d cultures in the world o, d way u know so much bout almost everywhere, its good though, a major we ve in nigeria is we know almost nothing bout ourselves n dats y an average yoruba man in SW will say urhobo, efik, ishan, ijaw are all igbo, n he will be so confident in being so wrong

magicjack:
abi na, man pikin go joo dey kama kama like junky, dats how they will spoiing d gud name of wonderful Igbo pepo

Lol, of course in reality SE n SS dont quarrel, its only online dat some people will be saying rubbish, a pig will always be a pig but doesnt mean the owner is dirty

4rm d niger delta we say, igbo kwenu

viscerion:
at least akwa ibom we still try for pidgin pass SE and SW, small small we go pass warri sef

lol, no p, but u pepo sud not end up like warri and port harcourt dat speak pidgin to the extent that theyve lost their normal languages

viscerion:
at least akwa ibom we still try for pidgin pass SE and SW, small small we go pass warri sef

lol, no p, but you people should not end up like warri and port harcourt that speak pidgin to the extent that theyve lost their normal languages

Shugavee:
SS Can mean different things,,

well know you know, im sure u also know wat SW and SE mean

Shugavee:
sapele Abraka is riverine,, just because there is river crossing it’s coast don’t make it a riverine tribe,,, don’t confuse urself!! U maybe right about Izon being like urhobo because I really don’t know there for sure! But ijaws n urhobo hv less than 5% similarities in anything!! Periwinkle ain’t eaten by Igbos?? Or by Yorubas so how is using periwinkle n crayfish in banga soup make their meals dominated by sea food! If that ijaw music u mention sound urhobo that means they used the urhobo style.. Hv u ever been to a cultural party where pure ijaw music r played?? Their language n sound don’t mix. I hv a river in my village too! what of Asaba people very close to the big 9ja river will u call the oshimil people riverine people? Urhobo is not a riverine tribe!!

ok u ve a point, but remove sapele n abraka from the list, i put them there for their great rivers, not to mean their people are riverine, but gbarigolo, ofoni, oduophiri, anibeze are some of many urhobo communities whose people and way of life is just as riverine as the ijaws and itsekiris