₦airaland Forum

Please let's end this kind of argument on nairaland, it's obvious both sides are just saying what they feel and not facts

chiipink:
Igbo ladies can cook very well to u can't say they are taking other peoples glory.
Most of the popular saying soups people know belong to IGBOS, ..(oha, okazi, ugu, bitter leaf)
There are all popular igbo soups and igbo ladies know how to cook them...
Afang is popular too and it belongs to AKWA ibom, I have Neva seen anybody call Afang soup "igbo soup".. Unless that person is unexposed. Even the name don't sound igbo anyway.. Most NIGEIRAns know Afang soup belong to AKWA IBOm,...


Igbo dances are quite different from ijaws dance, the acrobatics dance I know belong to IGBOS(anambra and abia)
Where people will be dancing and jumping untop one another until they are tall like a tree.. I think its call ATILOGWU... How ever ijaws may have their own acrobatic dance too.

But what we are talking about here is generalization, popular to all Nigerians(not individual experience)
Rather U are giving ur personal experience, which only u have experienced, it's different from what we are talking about his here.
Where everybody in nigera see IGBO bride as the most expensive, which is not totally true.



U are becoming very mischievous here I don't think u are even from AKWA ibom u claim to come from(u might be a Yoruba) .
Because u just told lies right now.
If u say that NIGEIRAns credit oil to IGBOS then u are a liar
We read it online everyday how yorubas and other SS tell IGBOS that , the oil belong to them and how igbos want south south because of their oil.
It's now shocking to me how u turn around to say Nigerians credit the oil to IGBOS.. Oga pls fear GOD

Even though IGBOS have oil in part of IMO state called ohaji(u can google it)
I have never seen other nigeria calling Nigeria oil "igbo oil".. What they always say is Niger delta oil.

Pls u are a liar

The thing is for you to understand the point he's trying to make, you've to understand that only easterners, southerners and those from the middle belt axis understand that nigeria has minority tribes, to majority of yorubas and hausas(no offense to them o) they believe the minority tribes in the middle belt are sub tribes of hausa and the ones in south south are subtribes of igbo, so they will see any good or bad calabar thing as an igbo thing

Even me that is urhobo I tot igbo list was more expensive o, from the pics it seems Igbos ve many items on the list but not necessarily expensive items, for the urhobo list i can tell you few of the missing things der, cigar for the youths, more drygin, starch, dryfish, banga spices, canoe(monetized), e. t. c

Shoe making and chain/wrist watch selling

outside the topic I like to ask a question, the Jonathan chain usually added wen sewing 'senator' can it be regarded as part of an urhobo/isoko attire?

YourNemesis:
That is interesting.

Examples pls.

Which external languages have the greateat influences on urhobo-Isoko in your opinion?

in my opinion o, urhobo/isoko are more connected to the edo languages, next to the ijaw and igbo languages

however I personally ve not blived d story dat urhobo came from edo cuz i don't bliv language is the only factor that determines a tribe, there is so much diff btw urhobos and the edo currently, as the urhobo/isoko seem more (to me) lyk aboriginal niger deltans

ozalogbo:
Let me enlighten some people on the PDP power rotation structure in Delta State: it is not on tribal bases; it is on the basis of senatorial districts. It started with Ibori (Delta Central - 8years), Uduaghan (Delta South - 8years), Okowa (Delta North - 8years...with this reelection). In 2023, it will presumably return to Delta Central if PDP sticks to its own rotational arrangement. Under this scenario, Isoko and Ijaw are not in the picture because they are both in the Delta South Senatorial District. However, if the Ijaws and Isokos push for representation, it might signal the beginning of internal rancour and maybe a jettisoning of the senatorial rotation in favour of tribal rotation.

we forget even delta central is not 100% urhobo, there are Ijaws in ughelli south, tsekiris in sapele n ethiope west, maybe even ndokwas, isokos n binis in some parts

YorubaBigot:
my friend stop misinforming people

Patrick Ifeanyichukwu Utomi is an Igbo man from Anioma

I'm urhobo, bcuz of massive immaturity on this forum, I just felt I sud commend you on your mature way of correcting that statement, simple without involving insults or starting e-war , u do well, we are all learners

Chidifyn77:
. Please where's the intlairport located in asaba. Cos the airport i know cant land big flights (aircraft) ...

It may not be ready to contain heavy air traffic like lagos own yet, but it still takes international flights at times, when my aunt was going for pilgrimage they flew from asaba

Efewestern:
If you actually pay attention you might be able to pick one or two from a Bini speaker, but I don't hear shii when those from Esan speak.

I have actually heard similar words btw esan and urhobo,

in urhobo/isoko you'll hear edo words, ijaw words, tsekiri words, igbo words, even some Portuguese words

we just beg u guyz not to derail this thread now, every thread on nl must not be igbo vs somebody, e nor dey tire una?

SamgoldBaba:
What is the meaning of Oniovo doh in Urhobo language and the response to that??

Oniovo means brother/sister/family member

Doh- can mean well-done, welcome, sorry, please, thank you, greet you, e. t. c

so oniovo doh can mean many tinz

magicjack:
Rivers state

This will be easy cuz i live in rivers presently and tbh, though I wont argue that PH is better developed than Warri, i disagree that rivers as a whole is better than delta as a whole, the only diff btw d two is dat in rivers 90% is concentrated in PH while in delta it is spread, oya let's do the comparism
Rivers
-one international airport
-one local airport
-two refineries
-two seaports
-loads of international oil companies
-GDP per capital 3,668 dollars
-IGR 85billion
-Over 5million in population
-High standard of living
-Good stadium(liberty stadium)
-80% of the major higher institutions in rivers are in PH
-recreational(SPAR, other malls, pleasure park, Isaac boro park, the zoo, buguma beach,hotels like presidential, novotel, e. t. c)
NB-These are mostly in PH while in delta

Delta
-One international airport, asaba
-one local airport, warri
-one refinery, warri
-two seaports, warri n sapele
-loads of international oil companies, warri n sapele
-Steel making plant, warri
-Transcorp power company- ughelli
-Glass making company, ughelli
-IGR 49billion
-GDP per capita 3,990 dollars
-over 4 million in population
-High standard of living(though not as high as rivers)
-Warri and Asaba stadiums
-only 30% of the major higher institutions are in warri, they are evenly spread across asaba, abraka, oghara, agbor, ozoro, ogwashuku, patani, e. t. c
-recreational(shoprite in warri n asaba, other malls, abraka resorts, kwale game reserve, escravos beach, hotels like Wellington, golden tulip, excel)

Result: well Im not sure which is better but as you can see its a close race no mata d winner

zinizta:
ijaws most def followed by the tribes in cross river / akwa ibom

After getting to know more about the language, I discovered that the languages in akwa/cross are not as hard as we think they are, it's cuz they rush wen speaking it dats why it seems hard, it's actually even easier to learn than edo

ure making a big mistake if ure using asaba to judge delta state as a whole, the fact that it's the capital doesn't mean it's the best city(see anambra, abia n even Nigeria as examples)

Last time I checked there are flyovers at Effurun roundabout, Refinery area, Ajamimogha area, then i think one in ughelli, so ure wrong to say delta has 3 flyovers, we don't even see flyovers or skyscrapers as achievements anymore, don't make others look down on us, we are not exactly the best but we're far better than alot of others

I still maintain that someone should mention the state they feel is better than delta let's do one on one comparism if they are sure

they are many more wonderful tourist sites in Nigeria, our leaders are the only reason this country is not better than dubia

Not writing to mock anyone or tribe, of course any name given by your parents is beautiful and most of them have wonderful n divine meanings, but you must admit many of them are hilarious to hear especially by outsiders, I'm looking at nigerian native names and asking which tribe has the "most powerful" names(lol). I listed the ones I feel take it but u can contribute the ones you know.
The nominees are:

Edo - I remember one Ehingwawuanghuan Irebhosenobulua from primary school, one of my neighbors is Aigbhovuleghe Imonikheyeleh. I hail o

Urhobo/Isoko- Some of their names need strength to call, Chief Dr. Osonobrhuvwenyerhovwoh Akpogheneriomiehmieh, Zesus! Even some of their English names are funny, Survive Umuokoro, Highway
Utuama

Ijaw- I wonder how they write "Ebitamaraseiyeifah Akpotuboekilebitamarau" on an ID card, na wa, and like urhobo they use to have funny english names, Current Tamunoforiyeh, Market Akpoebi

Efik/Ibibio- the chinese of nigeria, the language as strong as their names, Eminiabasieniacot Ikotobongitoroabasi, it's enough to bleed your tongue but they call it with ease like saying ABC.

Like I said if you know any other tribe with stronger names(cuz I know the northern tribes have powerful names too) mention them with examples if possible



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I'm just hearing of this, if it's true then must be due to some misunderstanding in the past, not bcuz omoku pepo or igbo pepo r bad, but even blood brodas have disagreements once in a while, no tribe is saintly

I'm Waiting for the first Urhobo governor of bayelsa state

ImperialYoruba:
What language do they speak?
What food they eat?
What name do they bear?
How do they dress?
How do they bury dead?
What is their marriage rites?
What deities do they believe in?
How does their king dress and what title does he bear?

I'm guessing ure not a south southerner, if not u'd ve known it's more complicated than that

Dis is why I think identification sud be based primarily on nation than tribe, everyone sud b a Nigerian first n 4get all dis yoruba, igbo, urhobo e. t. c because grouping pepo into tribes is going to be tempered by politics n regionally perceptives

darfay:
In my home town olomoro very close to Oleh. Everybody can speak isoko but it's not imposed on anybody. They answer you in the language you speak

The elderly,women, girls of all age, early teen boys and children use isoko to communicate amongst themselves while male youths of certain age code switch between both mostly favour pidgin... I was in oleh not quite long, people there speak also I saw some children and labourers speaking tho but not like us

The reason why our languages are dying is because the youth don't see it as fashionable since there is no new slang(yoruba has a lot thanks to their agberos ), no movies,or music(modern music like olamide and phyno o) but warri pidgin alone is very creative and has a lot of trends that youths like..

I don't know about asaba but I think they should be fully igbo speaking o.

What tribe are you btw

I b urhobo o, currently live in port harcourt, but i grew up in warri, anyway even when i was in warri i was not going to the village like that we only drive past them when travelling, me sef my urhobo na cut n nail

anoda problem I've noticed is the mentality of not only urhobo n isoko pepo, but all south southerners(save for akwaibom/crossriver pepo). Unlike the Yoruba n Igbo, the youths of the SS see their language as sumtin meant 4 d old n undope. It's normal to go a mall or youth party in lagos, ibadan, Akure n hear teens speaking yoruba or to a restaurant or club in enugu, onitsha, owerri n hear teens speaking igbo but u can't go to those places in warri, port harcourt, Benin n hear them speaking their language or even other tribes(yorubas, Igbos, etc) speaking their own language, it feels local to the SSners. Mentality problem, I use to feel that way too until i started travelling and saw that the major tribes didn't share this our menality

Probz:
Ndi Asaba no longer speak Enuani Igbo? You sure about that?

I've only visited asaba, so what i say may be my opinion and not the fact, but what i've noticed is that the people who speak igbo in asaba are the Igbos coming from the east, the enuani people themselves mostly speak pidgin(especially youths) or speak their dialect when they want to talk to eastern igbos. However in general u'll notice the igbo speaking in asaba is far less than the eastern cities(like onitsha, owerri n enugu the only ones i've visited)

like I said, my opinion

darfay:
Speak for yourself. Everybody in isokoland can and actually speaks isoko

really? well i only visited oleh n ozoro once long ago, and the oda few villages i've visited in delta it's only the elderly dat speak d language d youths roll pidgin,
.While in cities warri, asaba, sapele local language is almost extinct(lol)

south south and it's people have always been overlooked by the major tribes, the lack of population makes many people even unaware of their existence not to talk of their contributions, I've met many people who confuse famous south people for Igbos or Yorubas, don't be surprised to find out 40% of traders in lagos markets or in corporate firms are southerners who learnt to speak yoruba or igbo for better relating with the people

but in truth d south contributes as much as the other regions, if you want to really see them look at the entertainment industry

my top 5
1.) the minority tribes of the north(most pepo overlook dem cuz deir culture is not well known but u'll be wowed to see the beauty)
2.)the niger delta tribes(just like northern minorities des pepo r also overlooked)
3.)the crossriver/akwaibom tribes(yet anoda overlooked ethnicity, we know of their food n their bed skills, but they have a lot more than that)
4.)The Igbos(unlike the former 3, the beauty of this tribe is well known, i love personally love the culture so much and they were my favourite ethnic group for a long time until i started looking in depth at the other cultures)
5.)The Edos(we know of their beautiful clothes n rich history, but there's also a lot pepo dismiss them for that you'll be surprised to know about them)

If you don't agree with the list, you're free to convince me otherwise, but with good points

yeah right! The name warri was originally given to warri north, warri southwest, n warri south LGs. It's development that brought uvwie, udu n likes to d fold, so many people have forgotten that warri is even more ijaw n itsekiri, and though of the 3 tribes urhobos are the most popular outside delta, they actually have the least claim to warri

Hybridz:
Now,you're talking about ruggedness in people and not in places.if it's that,then the Igbos get the nod over others.

To your point,well,I've not really mingled with ample south southerners to buttress your point. Majority of the few ones I've encountered or befriended were "bread and buttered" outside their region of origin. Aldou,d few minority showed tenacity and lots of instincts to survive but it's a small sample size if you ask me.

we're talking of ruggedness in states not people, don't put words in my mouth

I think its cuz you've not met many SSners (most people don't even know who we are talk less of what we can do) if not you'll know who taught Igbos how to be rugged. Jus try n visit PH or Warri and move round you'll see what i mean

Hybridz:
You dey mind them!
Personally, I'd define ruggedity to mean having instincts to survive harsh economic, social, marital and even financial conditions without having to get involved in cultish and other social vices. That's ruggedness and not the robbing,pickpocketing,maiming etc slangs being thrown around to describe ruggedness on here.

I get ur point, but even at that you find that those that grew up in south south easily cope outside when compared to how outsiders cope in the south south

I always dey hear say benin nah one of the oga of pidgin for naija. i know strong port harcourt slangs, warri slangs, even bayelsa ge wicked slangs, but when I reach bini na normal pidgin i dey hear, so Benin peeps make una defend una position, con stone us with beta b-syd slangs

Oil money should go to Port harcourt, Warri, Uyo, Yenagoa and Asaba. It should be used to provide 24/7 power supply, good drinking water, build 10 lane roads, multi-flyover bridges, international standard schools and hospitals, build international airports, employ millions of people, build world class tourist centers, e. t. c, infact dubai should not be up to places like Delta, Akwa-Ibom, Rivers, Bayelsa.

But sadly because of deep corruption, the reverse is the case. SMH 4 nigeria

ChiefAlex:
Yea there are companies in anambra but ibadan is more productive. What people don’t understand is that productivity is not only about industries. What of private enterprises. Research institutes. There are so many professionals in Ibadan. So many. You may not know because ibadan is big.

Even some ibadan indigenes don’t know some places in Ibadan. I told someone, my boss who said there is no place he doesn’t know in Ibadan. I asked him if he knows where rcc is in Ibadan. He said he doesn’t know rcc has office in Ibadan when the same rcc has been in Ibadan for so many years because there mechanical plant is in Ibadan before moniya. You see that’s one of my points. There are some places that if you don’t ask, you wouldn’t know even if you have been in Ibadan for 20 years.

Modified: anambra can’t be more bustling than Ibadan.
Do you know the activities that go on around challenge, ring road, oluyole axis to oluyole extension?
If anambra is more bustling, then it should have population more close to Oyo State. But it doesn’t

do you know what is population density? oyo has more population than anambra cos it's size is bout 6times that of anambra, but for it's small size it's very populated, that's why it's more crowded