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imran147:
Religion / Re: Muslims Storm Emir's Palace As Bishop Sam Zuga Preaches At The Palace In Lafia(p by Glycolysis(m): 1:20am
imran147:







This bible verse should help you Bible
Never called Jesus A God but a prophet who wait for he’s lord command and he’s a man as bible describe

Only unah love for him to much and you always see or qualify him with One God


Bible says that God is not man
‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19)
‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9)
Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible
‘a man who has told you the truth’ (John 8:40)
‘Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)
‘He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed’ (Acts 17:31)
‘the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5)
The Bible says that God is not a son of man
‘God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23:19)
The Bible often calls Jesus ‘a son of man’ or ‘the son of man.’
‘so will the son of man be’ (Matthew 12:40)
‘For the son of man is going to come’ (Matthew 16:27)
‘until they see the son of man coming in His kingdom.’ (Matthew 28)
‘But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority’ (Mark 2:10)
‘because he is the son of man’ (John 5:27)

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Jesus is a prophet in a sense that, a prophet is a messager and Jesus is a messager to his father.

So if i may ask.

You have a son, and you send the son and errand to your friend.

1. Who is your son to your friend at that moment?

Ans: messager

2. Does it change the fact that the child is still your son?

Lolz. One God indeed, Can you show me where in the Bible the word "ONENESS" is? Even the word oneness never exist in your quran, so what a shame.

The only time the word One is been use in the bible is use as 'unity' nothing like oneness.


Lolz. You people always claim you know something meanwhile you are the most illiterate being have ever come across.

As i said, unless you want to show me verse that said part of God cannot be a man otherwise those verses you misquoted and misinterprete above is invalid.

And next time you want to Learn, Carry the Holy Bible and Read with Understanding instead of yedding to copy and paste.

Jesus Is Lord.

Peace

imran147:
Religion / Re: Muslims Storm Emir's Palace As Bishop Sam Zuga Preaches At The Palace In Lafia(p by Glycolysis(m): 1:20am
imran147:







This bible verse should help you Bible
Never called Jesus A God but a prophet who wait for he’s lord command and he’s a man as bible describe

Only unah love for him to much and you always see or qualify him with One God


Bible says that God is not man
‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19)
‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9)
Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible
‘a man who has told you the truth’ (John 8:40)
‘Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)
‘He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed’ (Acts 17:31)
‘the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5)
The Bible says that God is not a son of man
‘God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23:19)
The Bible often calls Jesus ‘a son of man’ or ‘the son of man.’
‘so will the son of man be’ (Matthew 12:40)
‘For the son of man is going to come’ (Matthew 16:27)
‘until they see the son of man coming in His kingdom.’ (Matthew 28)
‘But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority’ (Mark 2:10)
‘because he is the son of man’ (John 5:27)

Lolz. After alot of my question, you comeback to show your dumbness by ignoring all of my question but go about copying and paste. What a waste product.

Well i should be expecting you to refute the fact the Jesus is not the son of God but here you are talking off point with your copy and paste. Well let me educated your ignorance.


1. Your first point is that God is not a Man. Well that verse didn't say that part of God cannot be a man, you dumb.

2. The name son of man is a title that Jesus use to qualify himself while on earth, I called my self son of God, does it mean am a God?
More evidence that the word son of man is just a tag.
Matthew 16:13-20 New International Version (NIV)
Peter Declares That Jesus Is the Messiah
13 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”
14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”
16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.
How can he be asking who son of man his, if that word is not just a tag
3. The day you people will start using your Brian is the day you people acknowledge the Jesus Christ exist even before he was born as human. He said that himself.

4. Take note verywell anytime you want to discuss with make sure you know that Jesus is the son of God, and he is a Prophet.

Jesus is the Son of God because.

1. God the father said so

Luke 9:35 ►
Verse(Click for Chapter)
New International Version
A voice came from the cloud, saying, "This is my Son, whom I have chosen; listen to him."

Matthew 17:5 English Standard Version (ESV)
5 He was still speaking when, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my beloved Son, [ a ] with whom I am well pleased; listen to him.”

Mark 9:7 English Standard Version (ESV)
7 And a cloud overshadowed them, and a voice came out of the cloud, “This is my beloved Son; [ a ] listen to him.”

2. The angel that brought the Good news to Marry said so.
31 You will become pregnant, give birth to a son,
and name him Jesus.
32 He will be a great man
and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his ancestor David.


3. Demon&Satan acknowledge his sonship
◄Luke 4:9 ►
Verse(Click for Chapter)
New International Version
The devil led him to Jerusalem and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down from here.

Mark 5:7 ►
Verse(Click for Chapter)
New International Version
He shouted at the top of his voice, "What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? In God's name don't torture me!"


4. He refer to the Most high as his father
John 8:54 New International Version (NIV)
54 Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me.

5.He accepted been the Son of God.

Matthew 16:15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”
16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.

So who is your Muhammad and his family idol(Allah) to deny him his sonship?

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imran147:
Mumu pple.... Jesus son of God u Dey there when God Dey make love to Mary.....Unah lunatic act never stop from 2000yra ago died for your sin
Continue in bad act and feel God will not ask you what you use your life do this current life and make u Dey wait for Jesus blood to clean your bad act deed yeye pple loving human being than the real One god who create heaven and earth

Jesus is human being eat and cheet in toilet and even sleep how will that be a God ?

Lolz. I dont know why you people are so pained because some people choose to disbelieve in your gigolo muhammad, what a shame.

Well i only have one question for you.

1. Can your Allah hear you?
2. Did your Allah have ear?
3. How can your Allah hear without having ear?
4. If your Allah can hear without having ear, why is it impossible for him to have a son without a woman?

I guess you illiterate dont even know that Jesus exist even before he was born as human.

And to your question about Blood.

1. Why did you people kill ram every year and a form of sacrifices? Or i guess you want to dispute that. Lolz.

And to your last question.

How can a human being exist before the world was created?

Lolz. Muslim self.

Princeofnigeria:
[s][/s]all this Muslim bloggers trying to insult the church but you all will fail as your father Satan failed in Mecca and Medina.
Your religion is a problem to the world, you people want other religious group to respect Islam but you people are out there killing Christian and Jews but benefits from the western Christian world through education, science and technology.

I spit on your religion of pieces

I spit on Mecca

I spit on Medina

I spit on all the califate

Bombs and terrorism shall be on all your land


That pic is from a movie shot in Benin

Dont mind those useless atheist and Islamic nairaland mob that won't want to see anything church they will just jump and put it on Front page.

They should continue disgracing themselve.

JALINGO—Christian Association of Nigeria in Taraba State has raised the alarm, alleging plots by some politicians to plunge the state into further crisis by destabilising the 2019 general election
The state Chairman of CAN, John Aina, raised the alarm, noting that the killings in some parts of Lau and Ardo Kola Local Government areas of the state were parts of the plans, which, according to him, have led to the displacement of about 15,000 people in 49 towns and villages.
He said: “Information reaching us indicate that there is a renewed plot by some sponsored elements within and outside the state to destabilise peace and cause people to flee as 2019 elections draw closer.
“This time around the plan covers the whole state, unlike in 2015 when southern and central zones were the targets.”
Responding, Taraba State Commissioner of Police, David Akinremi, explained that the command, in synergy with other security agencies, have mobilised enough personnel to the affected areas.
He noted that flash points have been spotted and safeguarded ahead of the polls for quick response to distress calls.
According to the Police boss, “we are firmly in control and working with other security agencies in the state to ensure that security in the state is not put in jeopardy.
“We want to appeal to CAN, as a religious body, to cross-check their facts before making hasty statements.
“If there are things CAN or any other religious body in feel are not right, our doors are always opened to them for consultation and input on how to improve whatever situation they feel could lead to breach or threat to security in any part of the state.”

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/08/taraba-can-alleges-plans-to-destabilise-election/

IbnAbdullah1:
Allah is an Arabic word for God.
And as ignorant as you are you don't know Christain Arabs use the word Allah in their bible. SMH.
When all you know is how to insult people how will your free yourself from yourself imposed ignorance.

John 8:54?
When you think you can select verses that support your narrow ignorance neglecting other verses that expose your lies you end as a fool who suffers from continuous deception.

You think I am deceiving you? Your eye go soon open.

Read John 20:17 when Jesus reportedly addressed Mary Magdalene after his alleged resurrection from the sepulchre of Joseph of Aramathea ;it reads:
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

I am asking why is Jesus generalising the use of the word 'father' for himself and his disciples which you claimed in John 8:54 was specific to only Jesus.
why? why? why??
Like I said metaphors.

You will only end up clashing verses which will make you look silly and uncoordinated in your arguments if you don't relate all the verses in the bible together not cherry picking verses to suit your belief and end up soundly beaten because you failed to carry out simple research of your faith.

Lolz. This Muslim troll again accusing me of quoting one verse what an ignorant mumu, why dont quote the other verse to show that what am saying is wrong. Mtcheew.

Lolz. Even a day old Christian know how the word Allah take enter bible, i guess you forget history where the first person to translate bible to Arabic was beheaded by a jihadist because he fail to use Allah(Muhammad family idol) as God. Lolz.

Unless you want to show me prove that early Arab reffer to God as Allah before your Muhammad create Islam.

Lolz, you people are still trying to like your Allah to yahweh, that's interesting. Well i guess your Malaysia brother says otherwise.
https://www.reuters.com/article/malaysia-court-allah/malaysian-court-rules-use-of-allah-exclusive-to-muslims-idINDEE99D00M20131014


confuse people.


Lolz. So you can now quote the verse of the resuration of Jesus Christ even when you didn't believe in the verse. Hopeless been.

Well i will explain that verse for you.

1. Mary was a Christian because she believe in the resuration of Jesus Christ and believe that Jesus is the Son of the most high. So through Christ God is our father and we can call him father, so how is that verse a metaphor to Muslim is interesting.


Lolz. Indeed Satan(Allah) is the greatest deceiver.

I guess you can stop stressing yourself on weather Allah is use in the bible or not. Even Arab bible is now been reviewed so that they can remove that muhammad family idol name(Allah) from it.

Or can you tell me the reason why Muhammad father name can be translated as slave of Allah eventhough his an idol high priest?

I guess you are the one that need to research and stop worshiping that supreme idol(Allah) and stop following a gigolo that call Jesus a lier. Lolz

IbnAbdullah1:
Your problem now is, Jesus referring to God as his father.
SMH.

I have had several debates and dialogues with Christians the more they claim they have a point to prove the more they end up confused.

And again you must agree with me that you are DEEPLY ignorant about the use of metaphors in the bible.
The word father denotes a relationship between an obedient son to a father ,hence Jesus reportedly used the word 'father' to establish that relationship between God and a righteous servant of His.
The word father here does not mean a biological father in that sense it means a relationship.

If you claim Jesus used the word father to qualify God as his earthly father what about David whom God qualified as His son? what does that make him? his enemy?

Like I said the more you throw this mud the more sling shot you get.

I am expecting more insults since this is all you know how to do.
next question?

Lolz. Devil(Allah) is indeed a great deceiver

ok oo, Mr metaphor why dont you explain this verse since your own quran said the word Father in the bible is a metaphor. Lolz interesting

John 8:54 New International Version (NIV)
54 Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me.


I guess that verse correlate with your explanation of metaphor.

You cannot be a Muslim and still be sane

IbnAbdullah1:
When you run out of points your resort to insults.

You call me brain dead because you have no brain in your head.

All of what you are doing today tell me anyone Jesus did.
What is Jesus's church?
Did he sing praise and worship?

We are so much like Jesus that if you place the portrait of Jesus and that of Muslims including his mother you will see we are more like them and they are less like you.

Christianity was a religion started by Paul of Tarsus not Jesus.
Alla what you are doing have no bases in your Bible neither in the lifestyle of Jesus Christ.

lolz i guess you should check your comment and see how you insult and abuse Christian, lol so i guess you dont know that you are braindead if not you won't be asking me where is Jesus church after i explain what relate church and Jesus in my first reply which you fail to reply.

Lol. Now i understand how braindead you are so you have the portrait of Jesus that resemble Muslim, am so sure that portrait must have a black spot on his forehead. Lol

lols, i cannot waste my precious time on an educated illiterate that dont want to learn but to argue blindly. Lol, i tell you to go and learn about Judaism so that you will come here and tell me that Jesus didn't sing because last i check Jesus use to visit synagogue maybe they are slamming head too for ground there. What a shame.

Lols, Paul create Christianity but was busy killing Christian before he was converted to Christian. Lolz now i give up.

Lolz, i never raise a point before am only answering your useless point which seems to be the most dumbest thing have every seen.

Lol, am telling you if i raise a point for you, you will run away or you resort in using your Islamic tactic.

You cannot be a Muslim and still be sane.

IbnAbdullah1:
Your problem now is, Jesus referring to God as his father.
SMH.

I have had several debates and dialogues with Christians the more they claim they have a point to prove the more they end up confused.

And again you must agree with me that you are DEEPLY ignorant about the use of metaphors in the bible.
The word father denotes a relationship between an obedient son to a father ,hence Jesus reportedly used the word 'father' to establish that relationship between God and a righteous servant of His.
The word father here does not mean a biological father in that sense it means a relationship.

If you claim Jesus used the word father to qualify God as his earthly father what about David whom God qualified as His son? what does that make him? his enemy?

Like I said the more you throw this mud the more sling shot you get.

I am expecting more insults since this is all you know how to do.
next question?

Lolz, just a simple question show me anyone that called God as father apart from Jesus and Christian in the bible but you fail again, resulting to metaphor, lol

well i guess you can call you Allah as father since it is a metaphor ooo last i check your Islam forbid you to do so. What an hopeless being.

Lolz, yes just like God called David as in son but David never use his mouth to called God as father.

Am a yoruba man and i remember every well that anytime i greet an elder the answer the man use to give me is "How are you my son" and never have i called that man as father before. So stop showing your ignorance about the sonship of Jesus, even when you are trying to deny the truth, it never change. Not only metaphor naa figure of speech, why dont you show use other people that use the world father to refer to God since it a metaphor and it can be use by any one. What a shame.

Lol, i tell you go and call your imam come mister metaphor, just a simple question now you cannot answer. How did you even pass jamb.

Lolz

IbnAbdullah1:
Compare your John 3:16 to this and tell me if the word begotten that was used for David means something else.
Psalm 2:7
"I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, 'You are My SON, Today I have BEGOTTEN You.
The more you try to defend the lies you tell people the more you dig a hole of lies that will eventually swallow you.

Tell me if begotten that was used for David is different from that of Jesus. Even if you say 'only' was used to specify Jesus it still leaves us with the nagging question what about the the other son God 'claimed' to have begotten?

Mumu, i thought you are even Intelligent but you prove otherwise.

I guess you dont know that the verse is a prophesy of what will happen and that verse is not talking about David. But what did i expected from a Muslim braindead.

I guess you can answer this question too so that you won't shame your allah more.

1. Who apart from Jesus and Christian in the bible refer to God as father?

IbnAbdullah1:
Oga,I am asking one more time is teaching different from lifestyle?
how can you teach and preach what you don't act? Is that not hypocrisy?
And you expect Jesus the teacher and master of his message to act different from his teaching. i.e have a different lifestyle from his message?
Did you think at all before talking this rubbish.

When it comes to religion it seems Christians lack the comprehension and understanding of English language.
To you blood is wine, flesh is bread ,son is God, son is human and Human is God.

You think you can escape from these lies you've being peddling up and down on Nairaland today I get una time.

Jesus is influential how?
You don't keep to any of his teachings and yet you claim he his influential more than a man whose lifestyle is being exemplified day in day out.

If you really want to have a discussion with me go back and tackle my response the way i disgrace your Allah.

Hopeless illiterate, telling me i dont follow Jesus teaching even when he cannot mention any of Jesus teaching fool.

Lols, you want to know how Jesus is more influential?

Just another question.

Are you guys(Muslim) following Jesus teaching or not?

IbnAbdullah1:
Oga,I am asking one more time is teaching different from lifestyle?
how can you teach and preach what you don't act? Is that not hypocrisy?
And you expect Jesus the teacher and master of his message to act different from his teaching. i.e have a different lifestyle from his message?
Did you think at all before talking this rubbish.

When it comes to religion it seems Christians lack the comprehension and understanding of English language.
To you blood is wine, flesh is bread ,son is God, son is human and Human is God.

You think you can escape from these lies you've being peddling up and down on Nairaland today I get una time.

Jesus is influential how?
You don't keep to any of his teachings and yet you claim he his influential more than a man whose lifestyle is being exemplified day in day out.

Lolz, i use to deal with your imam back in the old days.

1. You fail to answer my question but come here to result to logic. Lol hopeless Muslim.

Actually if we are to talk of lifestyle and teaching, then you should be going about telling how how muhammad use to Bleep his twelve wives at one and you Muslim are not following him by fucking and marrying twelve wives. You braindead.
So i guess you left your prophet lifestyle alone and go about mentioning his teaching because it cannot be follow by a sane man.

Well let me educated your foolishness.

Why dont you mention any of his teaching since you claim to be knowledgeable but braindead.

So funny when you fail to tackle by question the way i tackle your foolishness.

You know what hypocrite mean?

I hypocrite is when you last knowledge of something but claim to know it. Illiterate. Go and called your imam come.

queenbetsy:
What's your own sef


Iyyaf spoil parol for me na it's because they don't understand Yoruba and they know they won't be able to sing the song whenever it's played

4601CE:
Sai APC until pdp ipod get sense
E pain am. Enemy of progress

Lolz. I guess you can enjoy you ban.

fatymore:
Rubbish post and nonsense comments by two people up there

mokt

another green light.

mokt:
Why nau? So mo age mi ni? I just checked your profile you this small thing

Guy you no know sign at all?

The girl dey use style tell you say she dey interested

Lolz, i dont want to reply you before but your ignorance is unlimited so i have to atleast because of those that are reading your comment.

1. You said comparism between Jesus Teaching and muhammad teaching but you are hear telling us about Jesus lifestyle, or is that what you are reffering to as teaching?

Lolz. I thought you people said you are following the teaching of Jesus Christ more than Christians do, no wonder you cannot mention Jesus teaching but you result to listing his lifestyle.

IbnAbdullah1:
Let's compare the teachings of Jesus and that of Muhammad (peace be up on them both) and see who amongst then as really influenced humanity, though we Muslims hold that they brought the same primary message of worshipping One God and following their way of worship.

Lolz, i really find it funny when Muslim are talking about worshiping one God in the bible as if the One in the bible is talking about oneness nor Unity.

1. Can you show me where in the bible where Jesus use the world "Oneness of God"

2. Nothing in Jesus way of worship relate to your Muslim way of worship, not even a single one, unless you want to show your ignorance again.

IbnAbdullah1:
During Jesus life time we know from biblical reports that he did the following:
Believing God sent him (read John 5:30)

Lolz, you mean your own biblical report right?

Because the verse you just quoted make it know that his father sent him.
Or are you know agreeing that God is his fathers. lolz


John 5:30 King James Version (KJV)
30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

IbnAbdullah1:
He believed he was a messenger of God(but you call him God)

Lolz,

just a simple question please.
If you have a son and you send that son an errand to your friend who is your son to your friend at that time?

Does it change the fact that he is still your son?

That answer your question.

IbnAbdullah1:
He did not do any miracle by himself (You will be surprised, even the resurrection of Lazarus proved that he did not do any miracle by himself)

Lolz, but he forgive sin by himself... Lolz. Even in Lazarus resuration he only glorify his father before doing the miracle. Or can you show me where he said God please wake Lazarus? Lolz

IbnAbdullah1:
He never eat pig.

Lolz Jesus i guess you are talking about the clone version of Jesus your gigolo muhammad created. Or can you show me a verse in the bible that said Jesus didn't eat pig?

Gush i thought you said you are comparing Jesus teaching lols

IbnAbdullah1:
He never built a church where he collects all forms of tithes and sowing of seeds.

Yes he never build church but he give one of his prophet the mandate to do so. Or what did he said to Peter about church

IbnAbdullah1:
He never asked for tithes from the congregation whether poor or not well to do.

Lolz and he never speak against given tithe infact he even honor the given of poor to the house of God than the rich.

Mark 12:41-44 New International Version (NIV)
The Widow’s Offering
41 Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts. 42 But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a few cents.
43 Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. 44 They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on.”

IbnAbdullah1:
He never did songs of praises before or after preaching with choir masters and mistresses (which you people do in the name of God)

Lolz, am now wondering what they use to do in synagogue. I guess they are there to slam there head on ground. Mtcheew, is better you check the mode of worship of Judaism now before showing your ignorant. Mtcheew

IbnAbdullah1:
He never shook hands with women (which you people do in the name of God looks at the heart)

Lolz i guess that's another assumption from you people. Or less i forget your Muhammad never use phone before so why are you using it?

Illiterate people, i guess you now know the different be between teaching and life style.

Even Jesus teaching influence your Muhammad. Mtcheew

And please get a copy of Holy Bible to know the teaching of Jesus Christ.

Jesus is Lord... Peace