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Gaming / Re: ... by Fisfrank(m): 5:19am On Aug 19, 2020
preciousgirl22:
60th. I don't have it oo. is 30th I have oo

It 60k for use one now in oshodi lagos for the slim and super slim, wanted to buy for a friend lastweek so I visited there that was where I bought mine, and I don't know where you stay, the bigger ps3 is 35k, but it can start developing issues any moment that why the slim is recommendable
Gaming / Re: ... by Fisfrank(m): 12:56pm On Aug 18, 2020
preciousgirl22:
ohh owk now I understand. thanks

Please buy ps3 he will really appreciate, the difference between 3 and 4 is just graphics, if you have money for ps3 get it for him than buying 4 since things are very expensive now and you can get ps3 for 60k now cause of the covid-19
Religion / Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Fisfrank(m): 3:27pm On Jun 21, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
The babies go to hell, any who dies without Jesus goes to hell.

Not to mention we are born sinners.


If you read your bible well you will understand they are born into sin, so they do not no sin so they cannot go to hell
Computers / Re: Is The ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo Laptop With 2 Screens Worth ₦1.4 Million? by Fisfrank(m): 11:49am On Jun 20, 2020
propsvilla3:
Yes
But I will rather use that money to buy a plot of Land in Ibeju-Lekki and be worth hundreds of millions of naira in the next 10 years, by next ten years this same Laptop will go for 50,000 naira. But you know if you have enough bucks 1.4 million will sound like 140,000 some self it sounds like 14,000.

May God bless you all to have enough money to buy Land in Ibeju-Lekki, Awka, Owerri, Enugu, Ota or Onitsha through me
It not for people like you, it for people that have more than 1acre in that same ibeju lekki and other bigger areas that sees the money as groundnut money.
Travel / Re: Nbc Skye Logistics Not Reliable. 1688 Fake Procurer by Fisfrank(m): 6:24pm On Jun 11, 2020
Coolberry:


Use Tugrow
Please kindly send there WhatsApp number please
Travel / Re: Nbc Skye Logistics Not Reliable. 1688 Fake Procurer by Fisfrank(m): 6:22pm On Jun 11, 2020
[quote author=Coolberry post=90561311]

That's much. I pay 63-64[/quot
It 67 now, wanted to make order and I asked NBC that's the rate they gave me
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Travel / Re: Nbc Skye Logistics Not Reliable. 1688 Fake Procurer by Fisfrank(m): 11:40am On Jun 11, 2020
nurric:

I'm thinking in the same angle. A reliable procurement and shipping agency to use.
How about their exchange rate

It 1 naira to 67 yen
Travel / Re: Nbc Skye Logistics Not Reliable. 1688 Fake Procurer by Fisfrank(m): 12:55pm On Jun 07, 2020
CEO1:
Have used them severally without having any Issue
Please how many years have you been using them now, cause I want to place order worth 60k through them they have send there account details

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Nairaland / General / Re: Help: I Think I'm Too Soft For A Man That I Am by Fisfrank(m): 4:20pm On May 15, 2020
evansjeff:
Recently I've been very bothered about myself. I'm a guy of around 30 but some things that still worry my heart is really disturbing. I will start like this.

1. Something embarrassing happened some time last year when I travelled home for visit. They bought a goat and was looking for who to kill it, me knowing I'm the most senior man at home jejely went into ghost mode, everyone started looking for me, in the end I had to come out but shamelessly told them I can't kill it. They had to call a 16 year old opposite neighbour to do it while my younger ones helped him hold the goat. I couldn't even stand the sight of seeing the goat struggling for life while receiving knife in the throat. I left there immediately.

2. You might think it's normal for goat until I tell you that I can't kill a chicken or rat, last Christmas, I badly wanted to buy a life chicken because I beleive it's more healthy, but who will kill it? Bae was around, I don't want any embarrassment so I jejely bought frozen chicken . There is a wall gecko strolling around my room for weeks now, but I can't kill it, it becomes embarrassing any time I have a visitor

3. The most recent is, there are two birds trying to build a house in my lobby, I kept destroying the house but they didn't give up, it got to a point, I felt bad for the poor birds, what if they don't have a house? what if I'm the one building a house with all my strength and government keeps destroying it? I had to leave them to build. My neighbour said he killed the birds that tried doing that in his house but me can i do that? No. i just tire.

4. Lastly, When travelling and there's an accident, people rush out to watch but I dare not else the trauma will remain for months, I can't stand the sight of blood and body cuts.

Any time I think about killing an animal, I ask myself, what if I'm the one being held by boko haram or killer herdsmen and about to be slaughtered? How excruciating the pain can be.

Any time I think about crushing a cockroach, I ask myself, what if I'm the one trying to cross the high way and dangote trailer crushes me?

So guys, am I normal? Do I need to see a doctor or a psychologist?




Bro I understand you very well, cause we are in the same shoe, I use to kill animals when I was younger, but as i started growing i noticed i stopped, it my elder sister that fo kill any animal we buy, they all know i dont kill animals anymore, I won't even be there when killing it but when it fully dead I can help in other things, I hate blood too especially accident scenes... you just have to let tour people understand cause mine does, if someone beg me to help kill anything my family will tell the person that I can many things but to take life I hate it. I'm around 30 too. So bro cheer up it normal you have a heart of gold
Celebrities / Re: AMAZING!! – Beautiful Pre-wedding Photos Of Military Man Breaks The Internet by Fisfrank(m): 8:17am On Jan 31, 2020
SoftP:
Do Nigerian Soldiers keep beards?
Check the country bagde it
USA

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Romance / Re: He's Having A Problem With His Wife To Be And Her Rich Parents by Fisfrank(m): 8:17pm On Jan 28, 2020
ProtectMyMoney:


Lets imagine bride's father is Otedola, definitely he will want to invite his friends Dangote, Tony Elumelu etc to grace the wedding...he will not want to be seen below standard.

Are you going to say Otedola should not sponsor his daughter's wedding?

OP, find a middle ground if bride's father wants to sponsor, let him go ahead.

It is the marriage that is the most important, not wedding day.
It different, Otedola daughter won't ask her father to sponsor her wedding, her father will only tell them they should GI ahead with there plans and all bills are on him..... In this case the wife to be want to go and meet her father that my dream wedding ooo my husband don't have the money please kindly sponsor us.
Travel / Re: My Experience Living And Working In The UAE by Fisfrank(m): 10:18pm On Dec 09, 2019
promzy555:
Pls I need advise, am about to giv someone money for 2 yr residents Visa, d agent said is beta dan 3 months visiting Visa, dat I can easily get a job in Dubai. Pls how tru is that? After spending my money to get the d 2 yrs resident Visa will my employer hold my passport too? D agent said it will cost me 1.4million naira to do the 2yrs Visa, pls is it not beta I do Europe? Pls I need ur help be4 I do something that I will regret.
Thanks [1quote author=NONNYG post=84768223] Many Americans and Europeans are moving to UAE to work because they make more money here than back home. Here there's no income tax and so many benefits like health insurance, house allowance, paid tickets, phone bill allowance, children school fees, car allowance or free company transportation etc

One funny thing about UAE is that your passport sometimes determines your pay

A Nigerian passport holder and American passport will be doing same job but will be getting different salary
it a lot, I have a friend working there and give job too for 500k it legit ooooo. You can do waiter or work in mall I think they pay between 200 to 250k a month.

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Crime / Re: Can Someone Get Access To Your Bank Account With Only Your ATM And No Password? by Fisfrank(m): 9:33pm On Nov 05, 2019
dubra:
If I may ask why carrying your atm card on your wallet every time? Mine never leave my house except if I want to withdraw money and once am done I return it back home if am close or at worst when I get home I remove it and keep, it's a matter of planning your days well and know when you need to use it or not, but some people made it a habit of moving around with their atm always in their wallet to them I don't say sorry anytime they fall victim

Mine too is always at home until I received 3 alert of 15k that I ordered for bolt/taxify, whereas i'm at Foursquare camp in ajebo ogun state. And it was done in Lagos. The best is always use ATM machine POS is not safe except you know the person very well. Ever since then I stop using the account and block all my ATMs except for that one incase I want to withdraw, I send the little amount I want to withdraw and withdraw immediately. It even GTB ooo....... My neighbor too I'm the one that do help him do transfers he only use POS cause of where he works they debited 12k from his account at mid night he went to report they blocked it gave him another ATM after 2wks they deducted 25k from his account again midnight too ooo same GTB. So please mind they way you use POS.

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Crime / Re: Can Someone Get Access To Your Bank Account With Only Your ATM And No Password? by Fisfrank(m): 9:16pm On Nov 04, 2019
Anskid:



That means your account can be accessed with only your card details?


Yes. Especially using pos is not save too.

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Crime / Re: Can Someone Get Access To Your Bank Account With Only Your ATM And No Password? by Fisfrank(m): 8:14pm On Nov 04, 2019
Not all banking transaction online need OTP. If you use sportybet too u don't need OTP to pay into the betting account
Crime / Re: Someone Withdrew Over 100k From My Account. I Am Depressed Right Now by Fisfrank(m): 5:00pm On Oct 15, 2019
So sorry for that, I also happen to me sometimes in august, I was in ogun state and I received alert from GTB three times that I took taxify/bolt that day and they deducted my money.. Have go to the bank to complain they ask me to wait for 45days rill now my money as not be refunded so I report them to FCCPC they are still on the case. Cause GTB was telling me I use the service or my ATM was compromised.
After 2weeks it happen to my neighbor 2 same GTB 15k twice and this transactions happens at night. If you can afford a lawyer just get one now, or you money don go be that ooo.
Romance / Re: Now People Need To Hear This!!!! by Fisfrank(m): 8:33pm On Oct 05, 2019
[quote author=serosa post=82523495]My name is serosa But can say AE.

So Just early hours of today I had some thoughts on my mind So I needed to share some light on It.

Okay.
First of all let me talk about the ANTICHRIST.

WHO IS THE ANTICHRIST?
THE ANTICHRIST IS ANYONE WHO CLAIMS TO BE THE SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST WHICH WE ALL KNOW HASNT COME.
THE ANTICHRIST ISNT SOME PERSON WHO WE EXPECT TO COME OUT AND JUST SAY SAY AM JESUS OR GOD ( EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE DO THAT )
THE ANTICHRIST IS ANY I MEAN ANYBODY.
THE ANTICHRIST ISNT JUST ONE PERSON THEY ARE MANY.
AND MOST OF THE TIMES WE KNOW THEM.
THE ANTICHRIST IS ANY PERSON WE ABNORMALLY SEE OR SO MUCH RESPECT AS A god WHEN WE ALL KNOW THE MAIN GOD.
YOUR MUM CAN BE YOUR god.
BUT THIS PERSON IS MORE THAN JUST MINI.

How does the ANTICHRIST OPERATE?
HE OPERATES THROUGH HOW DESIRES.
MOST PEOPLE DONT KNOW BUT THE LITTLE THINGS WE CALL GOD IN OUR MOUTHS ARE JUST ANOTHER WAY TO SAY ANTICHRIST.
MOST PEOPLE ARE CRAZY ABOUT MUSICIANS, ABOUT FOOTBALL, ABOUT FASHION, ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS.
NOW THOSE THINGS JUST LISTED ARE SOME PEOPLES god.

SOME PEOPLE DONT KNOW BUT THE DEVIL IS EVERYWHERE IN THE HOUSE , AT THE ROAD, AT WORK. ANYWHERE YOU THINK ABOUT HE IS THERE.

SOME PEOPLE JUST END UP GETTING THINGS WRONG.
NO ONE SAYS YOU SHOULDNT BUY THE LATEST PHONE.
NOONE SAID YOU SHOULDNT WORK.

EVEN THE BIBLE RECOUNTS JESUS AS THE SON OF GOD.
AND HE WORKED HERE ON EARTH BECAUSE HE PRECHED THE WORD.
THAT WAS HIS ONLY WORK APPOINTED TO HIM AND HE DID IT.

EVEN PETER WAS FISHING.
PAUL TOOO WAS A PREACHER BUT STILL WAS A CARPENTER.

THE BIBLE NEVER SAID YOU SHOULD NOT WORK.
THE BIBLE ALWAYS ENCOURAGED US TO WORK.

BUT THE DEVIL IS TAKING ANOTHER LANE.
TO DESTROY GODS PEOPLE.

HE USES WHAT YOU LOVE AGANIST YOU.
THATS WHY THE BIBLE CALLS HIM "" THE ACCUSER OF THE BETHERN.""

MOST PEOPLE DONT KNOW BUT THE DEVIL SPEAKS THROUGH THEM.
NOT A JOKE OR FUNNY ISSUE THE DEVIL ACTUALLY SPEAKS THROUGH THEM.

HAVE YOU EVER WANT TO DO SOMETHING AND YOU TELL PEOPLE AROUND YOU EVEN YOUR PARENTS AND THEY SAID NOOOOOOOO.

AND YOU GAVE UP ON THAT BUT LATER YOU DISCOVER THAT IT WAS AN HELL OF OPPORTUNITY.
SOOO
OOPPPSSSS embarassed
Email For MORE WORDS of GOD. AND WORDS OF FAITH.

[/serosa

Aunty serosa you've post this before na.
Romance / Re: How To Keep My Virginity. by Fisfrank(m): 6:01am On Sep 23, 2019
serosa:
I actually feel lonely And I need a bf.
But the fear of him making me feel bad If I dont have sex makes me sick.

But If I should have a bf is sex one of the most important thing.
For those of you in a relationship.
How is sex being handled.
If you don't want sex don't go into any relationship, the best thing is have more male friends, probably from those male friends you might get one who doesn't want sex too, then you start growing your relationship. I bet you 90% percent of Nigeria guys want sex in relationships. Best of luck
Culture / Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Fisfrank(m): 9:09pm On Sep 18, 2019
Won't comment again on this topic. Thanks everyone
Culture / Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Fisfrank(m): 8:36pm On Sep 18, 2019
serosa:



Orianmiyan or what ever they call him is from BENIN.IFE AND BENIN HAVE NO REALTIONSHIP.
EXCEPT FROM THE RUN AWAY PRINCE THAT WAS FROM BENIN AND LATER BECAME A KING IN IFE.

NOTHING SERIOUS.
Agreed that that the runaway prince is from Benin, didn't the run away prince marry from ife woman ?

Is oranmiyan not carrying ife blood from his mum likewise his children ?

Aunty serosa later you will say you don't know why your mum marry a delta man, you see you have our stubbornness in Your blood.
Culture / Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Fisfrank(m): 7:27pm On Sep 18, 2019
serosa:




grin
They are not one blood oo

You like trouble oooo serosa, Is the current oba not from oranmiyan bloodline ?
Culture / Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Fisfrank(m): 6:38am On Sep 17, 2019
TAO11:


Let me hope that you're truly willing to learn, bro. wink

Please pay careful attention to the following exposition:

For the Yorubas, there is a difference between A ROYAL TITLE and the word "KING" itself.

(a) Throughout all the diverse Yoruba kingdoms, the word "OBA" simply and straightforwardly means "KING" consistently. No more, no less.

(b) However, in addition to this aforementioned Yoruba word for "KING", each of the different Yoruba kingdoms also reserve an exclusive word to describe its own monarch.

(c) These exclusive words or ROYAL TITLES distinguish one Yoruba OBA from the other Yoruba OBA.

While the word "OBA" itself simply means "KING", these royal titles (such as: OONI-IFE, ALAAFIN-OYO, OLUBADAN, etc.) do not simply by themselves mean "KING", although they are used to exclusively describe the respective kings.

(d) For example: "OONI-Ife" simply and straightforwardly means: "THE ONE WHO OWNS Ife".

"ALAAFIN Oyo" (from: "OLU-AFIN Oyo" ) simply and straightforwardly means: "THE SOVEREIGN OF Oyo PALACE".

"OLUBADAN" (from: "OLU-IBADAN) simply and straightforwardly means: "THE SOVEREIGN OF IBADAN".

(e) This practice of reserving an exclusive ROYAL TITLE which by itself does not necessarily mean "KING" is similar, for example, to the ancient Egyptians'.

Although the word "PHARAOH" (i.e. "PERA-A" ) exclusively describe the ancient Egyptian kings, the word itself does not mean "KING".

It means "THE GREAT HOUSE". It is simply a royal title which runs side-by-side the actual ancient Egyptian word for "KING".

(f) Having clarified the practice of having unique royal titles to distinguish one Yoruba Oba from the other Yoruba OBA, I will now turn to the historical analysis of the word "OBA" among the Yorubas and among the Edos/Binis.

(g) To proceed, I put forward the following submission which if proven establishes my position that the word "OBA" belongs to the Yorubas:

(i) The Yorubas have been using the word "OBA" for their kings long long before the Binis ever would.

(ii) The etymology of the word "OBA" for "KING" is not found in the Edo/Bini lexicon; but clearly present in the Yoruba's.

(iii) The Binis have an actual Edo/Bini word in their own language which clearly and straightforwardly means "KING".


Regarding the point (i) on the historical timeline:

It is well known that there have been two different kingly dynasties in Benin.

It wasn't until the beginning of the second dynasty that the word "OBA" first described Benin monarchs. Prior to then, they used an entirely different word.

In the testimony of Oba Ewuare 2 in the video I attached, he admits that the first use of the word "OBA" to describe a Benin monarch was for a man from Ile-Ife called Oranmiyan.

I hope you're gradually beginning to appreciate the reality.

Moreover, prior to Oranmiyan and his ancestor Oduduwa, the Ile-Ife people have been using the word "OBA" to designate the rulers of the different settlements of their collective territory.

Historically, Ile-Ife comprises some13 primary settlements in those early times, namely: Ido, Iloromu, Ideta, Odun, Iloran, Oke-Oja, Imojubi, Iraye, Ijugbe, Oke-Awo, Iwinrin, Parakin, and Omologun.

In these pre-Oduduwa times, these settlements were independently ruled by different monarchs called "OBA".

Some of the most prominently identified of these pre-Oduduwa OBAs whose "names" have come down to posterity together with the settlements they ruled over are: Obatala and Obawinrin.

Obatala was in charge of the settlement known as Ideta prior to his exile from Ile-Ife during the civil war that broke out when Oduduwa rose to prominence.

Obatala and his loyalists re-established a version of Ideta within the thicket of some forest away from Ife. This Ideta was called Ideta-Oko to serve as contrast to the stately Ideta (also called Ideta-Nla or Ideta-Ile) in which they lived while at Ile-Ife.

"Obatala", over time, became the contraction of "Oba Ideta-Nla"; that is, "King of Ideta-Nla".

The etymology of "Obawinrin", in contrast, is quite more obvious. "Obawinrin" became the contraction of "Oba Iwinrin"; that is, "King of Iwinrin".

Among these pre-Oduduwa kingly personages who have all long been deified is Obameri. He probably ruled over a sub-settlement.

All these names date to the pre-Oduduwa era. In other words, long long before Oranmiyan who will later become the FIRST REFERENT of the word "OBA" for "KING" in Benin kingdom.

I hope you see the point here. smiley


Regarding point (ii) on the etymology:

The original, indigenous, and extant "Oba-sounding" word in the language of the Edo/Bini people comes from the Edo root-word "BA".

This root-word in simple, clear, and unequivocal terms means "SHINE".

From this Edo root-word "BA", the derived forms "O-BAA", "NOBA", and "N'OBA" each have the following respective meanings "IT IS SHINING"; "RED"; and "THAT WHICH SHINES".

Even a consideration of the derived form "N'OBA" still doesn't do justice to the etymology, because it simply means "THAT WHICH SHINES", or "THE ONE WHO SHINES" by extension to humans.

This meaning is by no stretch of the imagination one and the same thing as "KING".


The derived forms from the Edo root word "BA" are clearly entirely different words from the word "KING".

The similarity of these derived forms to the actual Yoruba word "OBA" (for "KING" ) begins and ends in the somewhat similar sounds. No more, no less.


Now, what about the Yoruba etymology of "OBA"? Does it mean "KING"? Let's find out.

The Yoruba word "OBA" comes from the Yoruba root-word "BA" which in simple, clear, and unequivocal terms means "RULE".

For example, this Yoruba root-word is found in the Yoruba statement: "Oba BA Lori Ohun Gbo-gbo."

From this Yoruba root-word "BA", the derived form "OBA", therefore means "ONE WHO RULES". No but or if.

It becomes obvious that "ONE WHO RULES" is unproblematically the equivalence of the single word "KING".

In sum, the word "OBA" (for "KING" ) as used today by the Binis is not originally found in the Edo/Bini lexicon, because the etymology "King" is not found from the available Oba-sounding Edo word.

The use of "OBA" for "KING" in Benin kingdom began with the Ife-Yoruba man called Oranmiyan, as rightly admitted by Oba Ewuare 2 in the video I attached earlier. Earlier indigenous Benin rulers were not so referred.

Again, it becomes obvious what this implies.


Regarding point (iii) about the original and extant Edo/Bini word for "KING":

The logical outstanding question in the light of the foregoing therefore is:

What then is the original Edo/Benin word for "KING" since "OBA" has been demonstrated to be originally alien to the Edo/Bini lexicon??

In simple, straightforward, and unequivocal terms, the original Edo/Bini word for "KING" which actually still survives even till date is "OGIE".


Many indigenous Bini historians always acknowledge this, but without realizing its implication.


Cheers
I was taking about the oba title not the meaning, I get your points.
Oba is just king to the Yoruba people why Oba title is for Benin.
Oranmiyan brought the Oba title, before then the Benin use Ogosi.
The OGIE you mention means king but the oba to Benin is a title just like Olubadan Alafin and the rest.

I think it on Wikipedia too you can confirm from there.

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Culture / Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Fisfrank(m): 11:33am On Sep 16, 2019
TAO11:


Both you and serosa are miserably wrong about the "OBA" claim. grin

"OBA" is a Yoruba word which later became a loanword into the Edo/Benin lexicon through Oranmiyan from Ile-Ife.


(a) If you both know anything about etymological derivation, then you both would have realized that IF a word originates in a particular language, then it must have its etymology in that language.

The word "OBA" (for "KING" ) has no etymology from the Edo/Bini lexicon.

If you think otherwise, then provide its etymology from the Edo/Bini lexicon. grin


(b) On the other hand, the word "OBA" (for "KING" ) has its etymology in the Yorùbá lexicon. grin

What does this not mean for both of you?? cheesy


(c) Morover, Omo N'Oba N'Edo Uku Akpolokpolo, Oba Ewuare 2 confirmed explicitly and unequivocally that "Oranmiyan FROM IFE ... became the FIRST "OBA" of Benin."

Refer to time stamp 13:22 to 13:41 of the video below:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXvXupQwaz0

Note that Oba Ewuare 2 did not necessarily say that Oranmiyan was the first Benin (or Igodomigodo) monarch ever --- of course there have been earlier monarchs of Benin (or Igodomigodo) by the title "OGISO" (i.e. "KING FROM THE SKY" ).

Here Oba Ewuare 2 specifically mentioned the word "OBA".

In other words, even though Benin had been ruled by some monarchs prior to Oranmiyan, these earlier monarchs were never addressed as "OBA".

Thus, Oranmiyan from IFE was the FIRST Benin monarch to be known by the designation "OBA", says Omo N'Oba N'Edo, Oba Ewuare 2.

IF this submission of Oba Ewuare 2 is anything to go by, then the valid questions to raise become:

(i) Why were the earlier monarchs of Benin, prior to Oranmiyan, not addressed by the designation "OBA", if the word "OBA" (for "KING" ) truly has always been part and parcel of the Edo/Bini lexicon??

(ii)Why did Edo/Benin monarchy have to wait many centuries for Oranmiyan to come all the way FROM IFE before the word "OBA" would be applied as the designation of a Benin monarch??

Isn't the reality now obvious enough to both of you?? grin cheesy


(d) Regarding "Lagos", the earliest royal title of the kings of "Lagos" was "OLOFIN".

The second "Lagos" dynasty (also like the first) began with an Awori man of Ife royal descent, from Isheri, by the name Ashipa.

* The Binis over time have tried tirelessly to also claim Ashipa as a son or grandson of their then Oba of Benin. grin


Moreover, it was from Ashipa onward that the title "OLOGUN" (from "OLORI-OGUN" ) came to be used as the royal title for the monarchs of the new "Lagos" dynasty because of the war context surrounding Ashipa's ascension.

Afterwards, the royal title came to be popular as "ELEKO" (from "OLU-EKO" ), most certainly after the settlement came to be popular as ÈKÓ --- a Bini phono-semantic matching (PSM) of "OKO", the earlier Yoruba name of the settlement.


In contrast, "OBA" as used in the "Lagos" dynasty and throughout Yorubaland is simply the Yoruba word for "KING" which is used alongside the different royal titles in the different Yoruba kingdoms


This word (i.e. "OBA" ) as has been shown from etymology and from the testimony of Oba Ewuare 2 is originally alien to the Edo/Bini lexicon.

The actual extant Edo/Bini word for "KING" is "OGIE". grin


And lastly, Benin Republic did not get its name from the Kingdom of Benin in Nigeria.

It's hightime people learnt to read. It doesn't kill. undecided lipsrsealed









For the royal titles of the "Lagos" dynasty, refer to: Robert S. Smith, Kingdoms of the Yoruba, 1988, Third Edition, The University of Wisconsin Press, pp. 73 - 74.

We don't need to abuse our self cause of history, if you don't believe today you will believe tomorrow,.

Why is Olu of Ibadan titled Olu
Why is Ooni of ife titled Ooni
Why is Alaperu of Iperu not titled oba
Why is Alaafin of Oyo not title oba
Why is Alake of Egba oba
Awujale of Ijebu-Ode
Even Olu of warri too
The oba just means kings to Yoruba
But the title belong to Benin and Benin alone is the first to start the oba title.
Please let stop abusing ourselves and learn from each other.

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Culture / Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Fisfrank(m): 4:31pm On Sep 15, 2019
serosa:





Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
. OK read about the people of isele ukwu kingdom, even the people of agbo migrated from Benin.

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Culture / Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Fisfrank(m): 4:21pm On Sep 15, 2019
serosa:






I know what Am saying.
Am not an history student.
But I love reading history books.
The fact is that oduduwa came from benin.
Have being my grandmums place which is BENIN.
The call him oduwa which means something like road of wealth cant be sure.
The truth is that most history books that I read in school were written by yoruba men.
So they mostly wrote to favour them.

The truth is that ife people are trying hare to make sure the BENIN people Dont look superior to them.
Even some few history books. Unfortunately I cant get them.
Wrote about one OBA in that time that defeated some yoruba kingdoms .

But yoruba people will never admit that.

Lasgos for example is owned originally by BENIN people.
But yoruba people will never admit that.
Even if You look the word "OBA"is only used for a BENIN king.
But the king of lagos uses It.
Even the OBA of lagos knows that he has his descendants from BENIN.
AND he has said It many times.
I know of a time when past obas of lagos are being buried in BENIN.
I Dont know about now.

So You seee.
Why is It that some places in lagos have BENIN names.
I know of a place in lagos that speaks benin. People there speak benin.


So the fact AND truth is that BENIN has power over the ife kingdom.
AND over lagos.
The problem I have with this people is that They Dont feel bothered.

So thats Why yoruba people are taking an opportunity.



Maybe You Dont know. But the BENIN REPUBLIC that we know got their country name from the BENIN kingdom.
Because of their great kingdom.
But no one want to say this.
But if togo people speak yoruba You will see them praising themselves.

See BENIN people are the people I will love to associate with Because of their humbleness.
Not like the ooni of ife AND alafin of oyo that will Just be speaking anyhow.

I Dont know Why my DAD came from delta cry
I understand you if you check my previous comments you will see that I said I can argue about if oduduwa is Benin or not, cause a lot of people wrote different stories that why ii don't argue about it.

2. You are very right about the oba title Benin owns the oba title they are the first to start bearing oba. Yoruba borrowed it from them, Lagos first king is from Benin the Benin Prince help Lagos in a war then so they decided to make him a king and then he sent for his people to settle down with him in Lagos, even ikorodu in Lagos is owned by Benin too, but they only crown the kings, so they are second in command but it just that now they are all missed upped, you don't know the Benin's they all speak Yoruba.

3. This Lagos king on the throne self is not the true heir to the throne they just compensate him with the throne, even the crown is not the original Lagos crown, it a Benin crown and Lagos king are not called oba beginning called Oloriogun from the beginning.
I also know about the Benin republic too.

Oba of Benin does not visit any one don't forget that, and there is a sacred sword the new oba must go and pick after some few years after he is crowned king in ife, that is the only time he lives his palace ooo. And no oba of Benin that has never said they own ife.


Thanks ma.
Where is your dad from in delta
And also go and read about the isele ukwu people of delta state, that where the Benin dynasty is as wide as.

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Culture / Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Fisfrank(m): 5:52pm On Sep 14, 2019
serosa:




They NEVER begged for a king from yoruba people.

In the BENIN TRADITION NO OBA MUST COME FROM A DIFFERENT FAMILY.
THEIR RULING SYSTEM IS NOT ROTATING.
THE OBAS SON MUST CONTINUE THE LEADERSHIP

THE WENT TO ile ife people because They knew THEIR OBAS SON WAS A KING THERE.

BUT HE REFUSED TO COME BACK.
DUE TO THE FACT THAT SOME PEOPLE WANTED TO KILL HIM.

AND THAT BENIN WAS A BLOODY PLace.

So They begged him to COME BACK.

But instead HE GAVE THEM HIS SON.

SO APPARENTLY.
THE SON IS STILL A BENIN MAN.

Bro according to Ife history oduduwa came from heavens with chains that brought him to earth and according to Benin history the said oduduwa which is the same pronunciation in Benin but different spelling can't remember the spelling was a Benin Prince that ran to Ife on exile. Those two stories I don't argue about it cause Benin knows the Truth but because cause of the way Benin keeps there things scared they don't want to bow to anyone which I admired.
Have you ever wonder why almost Benin traditions about there kings is more of Ife own example when the king dies the return the crown to ife when they are doing the pro and no one will no the king is dead till after 3months or there about before the tell the Prince then the Prince tells the Chiefs before it now announced to the villagers. I'd you notice when the last ooni died the news spread out so quick which is not suppose to be then the abused ife people that it was meant to be secret. What is still helping Benin is because they keep there things secret and respect there culture so much. And don't forget any Benin Prince that is heir to the throne must go to ile ife for training likewise ife Prince too but not as much as Benin Prince.



Im an history student, I'm from delta not Yoruba but my dialect is Yoruba kind of mixed with little Benin and I'm not isekeri. Google Yoruba speaking people in aniocha north delta state

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Culture / Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Fisfrank(m): 4:26pm On Sep 14, 2019
Frankiss44:


LOL.. But you didn't mention anything about the alaofin of oyo.. Historically, the old Oyo kingdom was one of the most fearsome kingdom in Nigeria. And the old king kept insisting that his throne isn't inferior in whatsoever way to that of the Ooni of Ife, that brought a huge beef that both kingdom weren't in speaking terms. It was when this new Ooni came on board that he made a historical visit to the Alaofin to quash the old beef.. But all that is now history. In the eyes of the constitution no first class kind is greater than another, they are all the same and receive the same royalties from the government. Their roles have been reduced tremendously to ceremonial heads. They don't enjoy the kind of influence they once had and what is left of them is history of something powerful and beautiful they once had.

Taking about waging war, who would want to wage war with Benin or Ife if not their own people? And if that war even happens, only the days of old where the kings determines what happens, now it is the security agents that are not answerable to any king that will come in... So forget all those stunts you see in home video, those days are gone for good




1.Can you please tell me where the first Prince of Oyo come from.

2. The answer to the beef.... When a child is behaving like a child the adult shouldn't be so stupid.

And have you ever heard in history that Oyo wage war against Ife ? It not possible, they only help each other in wars.

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Culture / Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Fisfrank(m): 4:17pm On Sep 14, 2019
Youthleader22:


Let me lecture you this kids of this generation.
Incase you can’t grab your hands on the Benin historical book check your Wikipedia from google search, you will find out that the Benin history is dated back 1100, while the yoruba history is dated back 1500. The Yoruba is birthed from the Benin kingdom. The Benin kingdom is the Mother of the Yoruba history. This is fact but pride will not let you people know your source of history. Now know your source and be wise.
You are right, but don't forget that Benin went back to Ife for a new king since they can produce one, that was when oranmiyan moved to benin, Benin then was wide to the very day asaba. That why when they want to crown a new king they always send delegate to ile Ife and the king of Ife send people to represent him. And there is a secret sword oba of Benin use to go and collect from ooni, the recent oba just collected his I think last year or so.
Culture / Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Fisfrank(m): 6:48am On Sep 14, 2019
Frankiss44:


Which while of yoruba land? Is that what they told you? It took this ooni to settle the long lasting beef between the previous ooni and the alaofin of Oyo.. At one time they were not even in speaking terms.. And till date, the alaofin of Oyo doesn't show respect to the the ooni of ife, so where is the control coming from? And what exactly do you mean when u say control the entire yoruba land? Even the Oba of Lagos once disrespected opening by not acknowledging him in a public function.. Are u saying the Ooni if Ife can send a memo effecting a change in a community in Lagos or Kwara? The ooni of ife doesn't even have control over ife, they are ceremonial heads and can thrown aside by any governor for any flimsy political reason
And what happened to the so called oba of Lagos his throne got burn out of nowhere after he disrespected Ooni, mind you Lagos does not have an oba title and even the crown he is using is not an original crown. Oba of Benin and Ife are one blood, Benin can't wage war against Ife likewise Ife too, so if you wage war against any Ife them you are in trouble.

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Culture / Re: Ooni Of Ife, Ogunwusi At Gabriel Igbinedion’s 85th Birthday (Photos) by Fisfrank(m): 4:46am On Sep 14, 2019
serosa:
OKAY GUYS I MADE INQUIRIES.

AND THAT THRONE THAT ONNI OF IFE IS SITING ON IS NOT THE ESAMA OF BENIN THRONE.


ITS A WELL RESEVERED THRONE FOR TRADITIONAL RULERS THAT VISIT THE ESAMA OF BENIN.



AND THE ESAMA OF BENIN IS QUITE HIGHER THAN THE OONI OF IFE.

JUST THAT HE IS A CHIEF.

SO PEOPLE SAYING OONI OF IFE IS SITING ON ESAMA OF BENIN THRONE.
THATS A FAT LIE.

HE IS SITING ON A MERE COMMON CHAIR.
Esama of Benin can never be higher than OONI of Ife if so then Esama is also higher than OBA of BENIN.

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