ilosiwaju,9jaganja, airdig et al. . .

first thing first. pat didn't say the earthquake was a punishment from God. he referred to a historical event and commented why haiti is cursed. the holy bible says stand boldly and that's what pat did. pat said what needed to be said (2 Chronicles 7:14). when the haitians devil worshippers turn from their wicked ways God will heal the land.

to those wondering why the believers died with the non believers: - many times those who have a relationship with God suffer for the action of the wicked folks (I am sure you have thought the same of your life sometimes when nothing seems to be going right. . .right? ) however, what we fail to realize as humans is that death is more serious to us than it is to God. the Lord God knows what is on the other side for the believers but to us who are left behind, death is very painful and heart broken.

God could have stopped the earthquake because He is in control but like i said before God allows certain things to happen. He is a forgiving God, a jealous God and a God of compassion BUT He is also capable of judging the believers and the non believers. The people of haiti (not all) are very dark hearted (deep deep into voodoo and witchcraft). . . more than most african countries if not all. The earthquake is an eye opener for them. They need Jesus just like you and me and they need it ASAP.

BTW, pat and his organizations have donated money and are in haiti with relief and help for the suffering. How many of us have donated?

pat is 100% correct.

to us pat timing was not right because it doesn't sound good to the world (people grieving) but to God it's the right time. i think God use pat as His avenue to get the world's attention.  voodoo, sorcery, witchcraft and devil worship is very strong in haiti.  in fact president aristide declared voodoo the official religion of haiti and the majority of haitians see voodoo as ominous and through difficult times they practice black magic instead of praying to God.
i think God let things happend to bring people to repentance.  the majority of haitians practice voodooism and yes the country is cursed.
one island, containing two nations of dominican republic and haiti. one prosperous with rich fertile land (dom. rep.)
the other (haiti) is poor with infertile land.  the continuous blood rituals (blood soaking in the soil) and the cutting down of trees for whatever is weakening the soil.  As pat said "it's a blessing and a curse"

the blessing:  with all the help haiti is getting right now (so far 35 billion) haiti is going to be three times better than before.
the curse: we already know

i hope this catastrophe serves as an eye opening example to the people of haiti. (noah and the ark)

Christmas Story Of Jesus - Churches (Traditional) teaching verses God truth (The Bible)

1) Let's look at this verse: Does it say three wise men?

"Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem. Saying where is he that is born King of the Jews? For we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him." Matt 2:1-2

The Bible itself does not specify the number of wise men visited Jesus Christ, so why do we Christians say three (3) wise men rather than the wise men? Is it because only three wise men gave gifts (gold, myrrh and incense)?

2: House or stable?

"And when they were come into the house they saw the young child with Mary his mother and fell down and worshipped him and when they had opened their treasures, they presented to him gifts; gold and frankincense and myrrh." 2:1

Why do Christians say the wise men visited Christ on the night of his birth. Matthew Chapter 2 vs 11 clearly say the wise men visited and worshipped Christ in a house where Mary and Jesus were staying. Also, Matthew chapter 2 depicts Christ as a young child and not a "babe"

Please, let's correct the errors associated with Christmas especially those Christmas plays (inaccurate teachings) at church.

Abuzola:

Hmmm
@hauwa- may God guide you to the right path amin, a prayer for you,'In the name of Allah, Oh Allah this stupid slave of yours seems to be highly infiltrated by shaitan, have mercy on her and guide her, if not she is already a lost sheep, thank you Lord for i know you will answer my prayer, thank you'

i have read some of your posts and it's obvious that you cannot answer any kind of question that is being asked. you need guidance from your elders

abuzola:

again, why would a prophet from god teach hate? why should muslims love only their kind and no one else? where is the love abuzola? why the hostility towards christians? are you motivated by this verse? what are your thoughts on muslim behavior on this forum?

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrongdoers." (5:51, Quran)

this is my bible on love

"Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another; love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous; not returning evil for evil or reviling for reviling , " (1 Peter 3:

read the bible abuzola, the truth is there. my friend, let go of the quoran and let jesus in

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=love+one+another

why would a prophet from god teach violence

Qur'an:47:4 "So, when you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle , smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam."

Qur'an 2:191 "And kill them wherever you find and catch them. Drive them out from where they have turned you out; for Al-Fitnah (polytheism, disbelief, oppression) is worse than slaughter."

Qur'an 5:33 "The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and His Prophet and make mischief in the land, is to murder them, crucify them, or cut off a hand and foot on opposite sides, their doom is dreadful. They will not escape the fire, suffering constantly."

Qur'an 48:27 "If the Muslims had not been there, We would have punished the unbelievers with a grievous torture."

Qur'an 9:5 "When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

Qur'an:8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land."

Qur'an:7:3 "Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them."

Qur'an:33:26 "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before."

Qur'an:59:2 "It was Allah who drove the [Jewish] People of the Book from their homes and into exile. They refused to believe and imagined that their strongholds would protect them against Allah. But Allah came at them from where they did not suspect, and filled their hearts with terror. Their homes were destroyed. So learn a lesson, O men who have eyes. This is My warning, they shall taste the torment of Fire."

the bible is "confusing" to some because we christians are not sure whether or not to follow the old or the new testament. god sent jesus and made a new covenant. mine you, i am not saying the old testament is obsolete or irrelevant (it is still necessary for us to use as examples); it's more like we have a better deal (new testament) for us.

meine

read isaiah chapter eleven verses one to sixteen

poster

follow his teachings not man. the bible is about relationship with god not religion.
am i wrong to say judaism is the only and first "religion" (notice i quote religion eh) in the bible?

Lorddozzy:

It is never new that it is now a custom in our churches to give offering in every single service. I 'm not against the offering cos most churches gives more than five times in every single service. What marvels me is WHERE DOES THIS OFFERING GOES? DOES IT GOES TO GOD OR TO THE PASTOR OR REV. FATHER? WHO EATS MY OFFERING? NOTE- (God is not a man, neither does he dwell in the gifts of men, he delight in our praises)

on judgement day we have to give an account for our lives.

Epi:

I had the pleasure to meet and speak with Joel Osteen and he appears to be a very nice and sincere person not to mention very handsome (charming smile). My "mum" didn't want to let go of Joel's hands because that's her favorite preacher.

thanks for the pictures. what did he say to you and your "mum"? do tell.

hubreality:

@poster, this is not a scandal. Take note! The Gospel is a saving Life not a Religion. I pray that God will continue to guide him(Joel Osteen) in all wisdom and understanding to stand strong in Love and the Power therein.

with you on this

davidylan:

Of what relevance is this to the gospel?

don't mind her. she sees not listening

Abuzola:

You slowpoke expect us to be quiet when conquered or oppressed ? You must be dreaming, didn't jesus said turn your other cheek, why did U.S invade Afghanistan after 9/11, christianity my foot

Abuzola:

If G. Bush a christian had not conquered Iraq would this have happened, yesterday an army Major shot dead 7 people in texas,
.'verily they (the christians) are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not' Quran 2:12

luvola:

islam means peace ! lmao . foolish slave of allah

please help me to understand you

dayokanu:

His own version of Jihad. This is someone who was sponsored by the US government to school now turned around and fed them with bullets.

The dead included a pregnant woman who was preparing to return home, a man who quit a furniture company job to join the military about a year ago, a newlywed who had served in Iraq

May his Soul burn in hell and roast on the electric chair or lethal injection

very well said.

how come the "peaceful" muslims not speaking out against his actions? their silence is deafening and so i wonder if he was motivated by his religious zealousy.

Why Muslims always yell "Allah -u-Akbar" before they kill?
Isn't Allah a God of Peace?

http://spitfiremurphy./2009/11/06/ft-hood-shooter-hassan-shouted-allahu-akbar-before-opening-fire/

olabowale:

Is it possible that before it becomes skin, bone, and flesh, that it bcomes coagulated/congealed, clotted blood first?

you are correct.

In America, if a wife leaves Islam "they" disassociate themselves from the wife. Her parents, His parents and close friends will turn their back on her. Eventually she is forced to go back.

Interesting topic, I'll be back

On Christ the solid rock I stand

davidylan:

My sister . . . this is the endtimes,

at davidylan:

The Bible (1st Peter 5:8 ) warns us about christians like David, Be clear-minded and alert. Your opponent, the devil, is prowling around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour.

Lovers of Themselves (2nd Timothy 1-5)

But mark this, there will be terrible times in the last days  >>>>>>>>>>> slanderous, without self control, brutal, having a form of godliness, yet denying its power >>>>>>>>>> HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM.

Generally speaking - It's relevant for Christians to focus on the word of God because satan is out there trying to get you any way that he thinks will work.

My brother David, read James 4 verse 7

at Pasa

I say Christians not Nigerians. James 3:10 "Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be"

I have seen some Christians be uplifting the words of God while still resorting to four letter words. Hope I am clearer nor

at Tudór

You act like you have ants in your pants

at poster

You are so misinformed

It is rude for someone to interrupt a conversation. It is also rude to turn your back on someone. And it is also insulting to turn your back on someone, agree?. Isn't insulting a sin? Could that be the reason why Muhammed asked for forgiveness?(he knew he had sin)

In fact, I like felis reply:

fellis:

For the sins he committed unintentionally; by mistake or out of forgetfulness. He was a man of high standards and when he asked Allah for forgiveness, it was not at all because he was a habitual sinner, it was for unintented wrongdoing.

I know my Bible has scripture(s) about insults (James 4: 1-12), so I am sure there must be a Quoran verse about insults

You need Jesus ASAP

Abuzola:

I am learning rapidly on how to handle this people. If i get the co operation of one of them then am through with them all.

So far i have understand that the christians are zombie and gullible, they follow any kind of idea attain and disperse by one of them without tangible reason not to talk of hypothesis. They follow like a driven cow to where ever you drive them to.
No wonder this phoney pastors keep playing prank on them. What a shame !

You should be baptized in order to take communion. Maybe, he is not

Have you ever wonder why some Christians praise God on Sunday then tear someone down Monday through Saturday?

Yes because God helps those who help themselves

Sharing this song

Excuses by the Kingsmen Quartet

Excuses, excuses, you'll hear them every day.
And the Devil he'll supply them, if the church you stay away.
When people come to know the Lord, the Devil always loses
So to keep them folks away from church, he offers them excuses.

In the summer it's too hot. And, in the winter, it's too cold.
In the spring time when the weather's just right, you find some place else to go.
Well, it's up to the mountains or down to the beach or to visit some old friend.
Or, to just stay home and kinda relax and hope that some of the kin folks will start dropping in.

Well, the church benches are too hard. And, that choir sings way too loud.
Boy, you know how nervous you get when you're sitting in a great big crowd.
The doctor told you, "Now, you better watch them crowds. They'll set you back."
But, you go to that old ball game because you say "it helps you to relax."

Well, a headache Sunday morning and a backache Sunday night.
But by worktime Monday morning, you're feeling quite alright.
While one of the children has a cold, "Pneumonia, do you suppose?"
Why the whole family had to stay home, just to blow that poor kid's nose.

Well, the preacher he's too young. And, maybe he's too old.
The sermons they're not hard enough. And, maybe they're too bold.
His voice is much too quiet-like. Sometimes he gets too loud.
He needs to have more dignity. Or, else he's way too proud.

Well, the sermons they're too long. And, maybe they're too short.
He ought to preach the word with dignity instead of "stomp and snort."
Well, that preacher we've got must be "the world's most stuck up man."
Well, one of the lady's told me the other day, "Well, he didn't even shake my hand."

Excuses, excuses, you'll hear them every day.
And the Devil he'll supply them if the church you stay away.
When people come to know the Lord, the Devil always loses
So to keep them folks away from church, he offers them excuses.
So to keep them folks away from church, he offers them excuses.

My God is real for I can feel Him in my soul