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[quote author=Hoaxen post=135964718]

1) Iran's leadership wasn't first toppled by USA. Soviet Union along with Britain had earlier invaded and replaced the leadership of Iran in the Anglo Soviet invasion of netural State of Iran

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Soviet_invasion_of_Iran

Read about the history of Iran, it's filled with coups and wars.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Iran

Iran even lost some of it's territory to Russia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Persian_War_(1804%E2%80%931813)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Persian_War_(1826%E2%80%931828)

Even the Soviet Union played the game of sponsoring coups

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_involvement_in_regime_change

First off, I said Iran's first democratic government. Democracy should have immunized them against all possible CIA-led coups, right? Why are you justifying it with the actions of the Soviet Union. You established that we love authoritarians while your heroes are not tyrants. By pointing at the Soviet Union, you're implying that they're just as bad as the evil despots.

And if you want us to go beyond post WW2, you should start by justifying Colonialism and slave trad.

2) I look up the FSA on Wikipedia and I saw that ISIS is one of their adversaries and they were founded on 29 July 2011 by Colonel Riad al-Asaad and six officers who defected from the Syrian Armed Forces. The officers announced that the immediate priority of the Free Syrian Army was to safeguard the lives of protestors and civilians from the deadly crackdown by Bashar al-Assad's security apparatus; with the ultimate goal of accomplishing the objectives of the Syrian revolution, namely, the end to the decades-long reign of the ruling al-Assad family.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Syrian_Army

As for the tailban, read about the Soviet Afghan war where Soviet Union along with the Afghan army fought against the Afghan mujahideen backed by Pakistan, Arab states, Iran, UK and US.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War

Where did the Free Syrian Army get weapons from, and from which groups did ISIS emerge from?

Can you explain the message you're trying to pass concerning the Taliban? It sounds to me like you're admitting that US and UK connived with a bunch of Arab DESPOTS to sponsor terrorists in another sovereign state 😎😎😎

3) Not only the US worked with Saddam, according to Wikipedia: During the conflict, Iraq received an abundance of financial, political, and logistical aid from the United States, the United Kingdom, the Soviet Union, France, Italy, Yugoslavia, and the overwhelming majority of Arab countries. While Iran was isolated.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War

Again, you're admitting that your non-tyrants connived with Shia-hating authoritarians to fund a war (that involved use of chemical weapons) against a sovereign country? Wasn't Saddam Hussein a brutal dictator at that period?

In Nigeria, the Nigerian military was supported by UK, Soviet Union, Egypt, Ethiopia while Biafra was supported by China, France, Israel, south Africa, Portugal and some African countries.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War

You're not saying anything here aside proving that you do love dictators when it is convenient.

5) Vietnam war was a civil war between north Vietnam and south Vietnam. With north backed by Soviet Union and China while the south was backed by US, Korea, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand and Philippines.
According to the UN, there were human rights violations by both sides

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War

If only Ukraine can get the kind of 'backing' that the South got. Guy forget, USA was directly involved. It wasn't Asians that bombed 1.5 million Vietnamese fighters.Ask Muhammad Ali.

10) Iran swore to destroy Israel, funds terror organisations against Israel, launches ballistic missiles and drones against Israel and threatens all states in the region. And you ask why it's ballistic missile programs need to be stopped.

I suppose Israel has been sending flowers and love letters to Iran in exchange.

11) The aim of the sanction is prevent countries that violates human rights such as North Korea from generating income by selling weapons.

Imagine if Nigeria starts buying weapons from North Korea, indirectly giving financial support to the North Korean regime to further oppress it's citizens.

So why not extend the ban to Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Israel since the Human Rights watch has a problem with all of them? Something must be amiss

Are you saying that Japan was just minding it's business and the US just nuked them out of nowhere?

By this logic, Every country should use nukes to sort all military problems.

Is it not Hamas using civilians as human shields by using kindergartens, residential areas, hospitals etc to launch rockets and host their base?

Let's assume this Hasbara talking point is true. How then do you justify the hundreds of videos showing unarmed Palestinian civilians getting killed at close range? How about those being killed while queuing for food? Did Hamas transcend into the spiritual world and possess them?

Before the conflict, there were 2.1 million Palestinians living in Gaza, according to figures about 50 thousand have been killed. That's about 2.38 percent.

Does 2.38% sound genocidal?

That's not how the definition works. Genocide doesn't mean you have to kill everyone off. When you're dozens of people daily, starving them, demolishing every building in their land and talking about completely evicting them from where they belong, it's an ongoing genocide. Now that aside, can you explain why Palestinians are being killed everyday in the West bank? I saw on Twitter that a bunch of Jewish settlers burned a Palestinian village yesterday amids the usual indifference by the IDF. Please defend that.

It's like you don't know about Gaddafi, read about him online.
He made enemies everywhere.
He had political opponents assassinated home and abroad (in Europe).
He took money from people's bank accounts under the guise of equalization.
He took houses from people who had more than one and gave it to those without (robbing Peter to pay Paul)
He was expelled from the oau. Etc
His issues is so much that I can't post them all here.
And then again the West did not kill him, rebels did.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi


Fidel Castro is the same with Gaddafi read about him, he was sending troops to fight in different wars abroad.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidel_Castro

Gaddafi wasn't killed by NATO? Hillary Clinton would laugh at that statement. They armed 'rebels' against him, established a No-Fly-Zone over Libya to hinder his ability to defend himself, and struck his convoy with a drone while he was trying to escape.

The allegations against Gaddafi and Castro are mostly ficticious talking points that your democratic heroes use to demonize their enemies when trying to advance their imperial CAPITALISM. Human rights and the rest are the excuses reserved for dummies to swallow. Isn't it funny that you only start to hear about these 'atrocities' when they start opposing Americans? THINK.

And if they both deserved to die for those crimes, then why are they still friends with Muhammad Bin Salman? Why were they friends with so many brutal dictators like the Soherto regime?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965%E2%80%9366

You have to suspend your thinking faculties to believe the CIA was trying to kill Castor because he killed a bunch of innocent people. It's because of the economic system he'd adopted for his sovereign country, Cuba.

As for the Hague invasion act the US is not an ICC member so it can't be subject to it.

And the solution is to send special forces to gun down the judges? I thought we're the ones that love authoritarians here 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[s]The ICC ruling against Israel was bizarre, imagine if a thief attacks someone with a knife and the person defended themselves and injures the thief in the process and then the police then arrests both the thief and the victim. Does this make sense to you?[/s]

[s]If a police officer kills an armed robber that was shooting at him, can the police officer be arrested for murder?[/s]

[s]The answer is no. The ICC’s ruling was unjust and senseless.[/s]

Solid points. Please email them to Netanyahu and tell him to present them at the court instead of threatening the judges.

WriiterNg:
Whenever they sue for peace, just know they've scraped bottom of their stockpiles and are trying to buy time.

Iran should have continued hammering Israel non stop until they surrender, just like Russia is doing to Ukraine.

Iranians are in a class of their own. Cargo planes are flying to Israel from USA in droves, and there's no question about their purpose. What would Russia do in this kind of situation?

WriiterNg:
But but, i thought US weapons stock were infinite?

Small 12 days war with Iran, dem don gas out. Don run dey find ceasefire lol.

The biggest mistake the US military made was to allow a monopoly to emerge in its arms industry. People just look at America's budget and assume they can't run out of anything

sainttwist1:
your claims......loool,
the US is not a signatory to the Rome Statute, the treaty that established the International Criminal Court (ICC), also israel is not a signatory


according to you, if Boko haram/ISIS want to have nuke Nigeria and the international community should allow them......


Israel was not negotiating with Iran, the US knew Israel was going to attack iran. To prevent such the US enter into negotiation with iran pegged at 60 days but iran was not serious with the negotiation, so................


"Shooting people at close range daily, bombing them at will, taking out their cultural heritage, starving them, and openly trying to displace them sure doesn't sound like genocide:........... which cultural heritage are you talking about or are we taking about another set of people.


while do you diislike the israel?

Then why bother threatening the judges and passing a law that allows you to use force on a court?

You are just a distraction at this point. Let him handle this.

sainttwist1:
brother calm down, breath, I know you are angry but facts will always remain facts


Isreal was not negotiating with Iran, Americans were the one negotiating with Iran and the Americans gave Iran 60 days. And you should know Iran was attacked on the 61 day.......so nobody was negotiating with Iran,

About the nuke, japan and the US were at war.......😂😂😂😂😂 And everyone including the Japanese was using everything for the other to surrender.

The ICC guy was accused of sexual misconduct.....or I should remind his name and his country of origin

The genocide cry 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. I find it funny that apart from the top hamas officials, the people kil*ed during this war are "woman and children", doctors, journalist etc.....even when it was documented that a doctor held an hostage.

What again??

Facts will always be fact bro.....you can twist it to suit your narrative but

Good morning people

Israel must have acted alone without US knowledge.

In your worldview, it must be okay to kill someone you disagree with even before the negotiations officially break down.

If being at war is a justification for using nukes, then every state needs to get them

USA threatened ICC judgeS, not an ICC judge. There is a difference between 'accused' and 'convicted' and let's not pretend this is about sexual misconduct.

Shooting people at close range daily, bombing them at will, taking out their cultural heritage, starving them, and openly trying to displace them sure doesn't sound like genocide.

Maybe you should allow Hoaxen to handle this. At least he is willing to verify my claims before making half-assed denials

Hoaxen:
Some of these responses are just you saying America, Israel and Palestine. These are not real answers.

I asked for the specific instances which they occurred.

As for 1,2,3 and 11. I will read up your claim and give you a response.

For number 12, is it not the same Ayatollah that was sponsoring terror groups against Israel in Syria, Palestine (HAMAS), Lebanon (Hezbollah), houthi.
Are they not the ones chanting "death to Israel"?
Are the ones that stated that their mission is the annihilation of Israel?
Are they not the ones who masterminded the October 7 attack on Israel?
Does the Ayatollah think that he can threaten a sovereign state and not receive threats in return?

By mentioning America or Israel, I mean they are the ones responsible for the crime. Are you denying that America nuked Japan twice or that Israel hasn't been repeatedly caught killing children, journalists, and doctors? Didn't America and Israel attack Iran while they we're negotiating? Are Palestinians not facing systematic extermination?

These are simple words that I didn't think anyone would need an explanation on.

The good news is that i don't have to debate you concerning Ayatollah or the resistance movement. Let's assume he deserves to be killed. Why did Ghaddafi deserve to die?

Fidel Castro survived almost 600 assassination attempts. What was his crime?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_assassination_attempts_on_Fidel_Castro



Read about the Hague invasion act. Even Human Rights Watch was horrified.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2002/08/03/us-hague-invasion-act-becomes-law

Let's not forget the threats ICC officials face for doing their jobs.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/28/israeli-spy-chief-icc-prosecutor-war-crimes-inquiry

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/06/1164136






But they are not tyrants

Hoaxen:
Twelve bullet points.

When and where did these happen?

Easy. I can give multiple examples of each point, but I will try to keep things short.

(1) They might stage coups against unfriendly countries.
(2) They might sponsor terrorists.
(3) They might work with friendly dictators.
(4) They might commit genocide.
(5) They might kill millions of people far away for adopting an economic system they don't like.
(6) They might violate international laws at will.
(7) They might kill children and doctors and journalists.
(8 ) They might use atomic bombs twice on civilians.
(9)They might attack countries during an ongoing negotiation.
(10) They might decide what weapons you can or cannot own.
(11) They might blackmail you with sanctions for choosing who you want to buy your weapons from.
(12) They might openly threaten to assassinate the head of another country…

1) Iran's democracy was first toppled by the CIA

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/august-19/cia-assisted-coup-overthrows-government-of-iran


2) ISIS were originally members of the FSA which were backed by USA to topple Assad's secular government. They also gave training to the Taliban and they're openly in bed with Jolani, the same terrorist they once placed a bounty on.

3) USA worked with Saddam when he invaded Iran. They worked with so many dictators all over the world, including Nigeria esp when they assisted us against Biafra. They are still friends with Arab tyrants in the Middle East. Democracy be damned.

4) PALESTINE

5) VIETNAM + countless unnecessary proxy wars against communism


6) Self-explanatory. At this point, one can only hope to find the International laws that America and its boys have not dumped on.

7) Israel, Israel, Israel

8 ) America

9) America, Israel

10) Just yesterday, a Pro-West individual criticized Macron for saying Iran's ballistic missile needs to be stopped.

11) Read on America's CAATSA. You can visit the African military's thread on this section and see the way Nigerians are complaining about our patronage of American weapons. There are cheaper alternatives that don't come with delays or ridiculous constraints but we buy American due to fear of sanctions.

12) Trump and Netanyahu did that less than one months ago.

No day passes without Israel doing something atrocious to starving Palestinian civilians. Yesterday, they killed a defenceless man carrying flower. Today, an Israeli ran over an Arab residing in Israel. This is the most recorded genocide in world history, but you don't even get a semblance of condemnation from the democratic human rights champions, the same people that worked overtime to let the world know about an inexistent genocide in China. The easiest way to lose your livelihood in the West is to say something against Israel's atrocities...


... but they are not tyrants.

Alamkiir:
And who said that building nuclear weapons guarantees a flourishing economy? Nuclear weapons are primarily for defense. In Iran’s case, its economy will face pressure regardless of whether it develops nuclear weapons. If Iran halts its nuclear program, they will claim it cannot have missiles. If Iran stops its missile program, they will accuse it of funding terrorism. There will always be excuses to kill Iran off. This stems from a deep-seated hatred toward Iran as an independently growing power in the Middle East—how dare Iran rise? It's kinda like the hatred Biden and Europe show toward Russia. Iran will be better off possessing nuclear weapons.

Thank you my brother! It is never about the nuclear weapons. This is all about Iranian resources and control of the Middle East. Venezuela doesn't pose any threat to them but they're complaining about them daily. It's all about control

Hoaxen:
That's the sad difference between my camp and your camp.

We don't love any leader. We only appreciate the fact that they are not tyrants.

Of course. They might stage coups against unfriendly countries. They might sponsor terrorists. They might work with friendly dictators. They might commit genocide. They might kill millions of people far away for adopting an economic system they don't like. They might violate international laws at will. They might kill children and doctors and journalists. They might use atomic bombs twice on civilians. They might attack countries during an ongoing negotiation. They might decide what weapons you can or cannot own. They might blackmail you with sanctions for choosing who you want to buy your weapons from. They might openly threaten to assassinate the head of another country...

But they are not tyrants

Hoaxen:
What happened to that your "I love Putin more than life"?

If you cannot say the truth about someone you love then it's no longer love. It becomes worship

olutund:
religion bro, religion clouds the brain

Indeed

WriiterNg:
Imagine an ordinary citizen threatening a seating President of a country.

I'm enjoying the fallout so far.

Listen, anything that'll bring about the fall of America, count me in.

I laughed like mad when I read Trump's post. Guy was indirectly saying America would be better off without Elon Musk 😂😂

Mikasaobi:
@kingsnairaland
You keep calling USA and nato evil, but your god ( when I say your god I don’t mean the Christian God because a lot of Christians don’t support the evil Israel is doing or believe the European Jews are special)is using this evil country and association to protect Israel. It’s also important you know Russia relationship with Israel is due to Putins personal relationship with Jews and the fact a lot of Russians are part of the European Jews in Israel. Even when the polish guy Netanyahu came to Russia he was talking about Jews and Amalek in his speech. Putin told him that was a different time with different people. A lot of Russians see Russian Jews as traitors because instead of defending Russia during SMO they went to kill babies in Palestine. All am saying is Russians are not Zionist and don’t be surprised if after Putin that friendship will end because Israel has stabbed Russia in the back a lot.

I will never understand how he does it. US/NATO= evil, but Israel= perpetually good. I cannot can

WritterNg:
That thing Putin did irritated me. Imagine your supposed ally being targeted right left and center and being bombed to shit.

You still had to come to talk about Israel being a Russian speaking country bla bla bla. I think Putin has a sentimental attachment to Israel.

Come to think of it, Russia paid the ultimate price for Jewish freedom today, so there's no way that won't mean something.

Anyways that is that. You all may have to look at it from another angle. What if Russia is refusing to transfer those weapon technologies to Iran because they're afraid of it falling into the wrong hands. Into the hands of terrorist groups.

Iran does not seem like a country that can carefully guard state secrets.

Are you sure you're the real owner of this handle?

It is true sha. The statement was ill-timed and it suggests Putin has no problem watching his allies get preyed upon as long as the aggressors speak Russian.

You guys need to cut Russia some slack. War is expensive and anything they do could be retaliated upon through Ukraine. Iran has not come out to deny any of the things Putin said during the war, and member that Russians are assisting Iran with nuclear tech.

Remember also that Iran never requested for help and even if it is true that Iran tried to buy the S400, Russia has a legitimate reason to be anxious about the deal. This is Iran we are talking about. A country where the Mossad established mini Nevatim airbases and can assassinate anyone at will. Turkey was kicked out of the F-35 program for buying the S400 due to similar reasons. You can't just risk having your IP stolen due to a careless ally.
(On the flip side, why sell the S400 to a NATO member if you care about the secrets so much?)


Iran could have protected its airspace better, but they still performed well. Iran knows their main adversary (USA) will always have air superiority over them even if they buy S-10,000 and they built their military accordingly. Their key assets are underground and many of the IDF 'hits' were actually decoys (don't take my words for it. Use Google or watch some of the videos yourself). Iran could have continued for months, unlike Israel and its gang members.

Iran is already working on the nuclear sites. They have removed the surveillance cameras and banned the IAEA. They have vowed to maintain the program. They are busting sleeper cells daily, they have criminalized starlink, they have ditched the GPS for Beidou, and they are trying to buy Chinese jets now. If you ask me, I'd say they have much more under their sleeves and they might now go for a weapon's-grade uranium

Hoaxen:
ATACMS are tactical ballistic missiles.

Ballistic missile classifications are
1) Tactical ballistic missiles
2) short range ballistic missiles
3) intermediate range ballistic missiles
4) intercontinental ballistic missiles

ATACMS travel at Mach 3 or less. And have a maximum altitude of 50. Any average missile system can shoot it.

Even the Patriot shot down several kinzhals missiles.

How does it fare against Iranian Khorramshahr, sejjil, shahab 3, kheibar sheikan etc intermediate ranged missiles, some of which are eco atmospheric and can reach speeds of mach 15.

And Israel shot some of them down using thaad.
Can the S-400 do the same?

Fixed.

As for your question, we will have to see how it will perform when the time is right. The THAAD was good on paper until 2 THAAD batteries failed to deliver despite collaborating with a wild array of multi-layered air defense system and jets and ships

[quote author=Jovi10 post=135943010]Lmao some are saying Israels air defence systems had an 80 to 90 % success rate 😂🤣😂🤣😂 so what did the USA , Jordan , Germany and France et all help intercept?

To know how use....less the iron doom is, can you imagine when Iranian missiles leave Iran, Israel and their big uncles in NATO get the notification that Iran has fired their missiles towards Israel, so they are given enough heads-up and time to prepare for the incoming missiles. Despite all this, irans missiles still did a lot of damage to Israel. Let's not when forget the fact that 5 other countries where still helping to shoot down Iranian missiles. Imagine if it was just Israels air defence without external support from their big uncles? Israel would be like Gaza by now.


Iron doom and David Sink and whatever system that's left of their air defence should be thrown into the trash can. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂[/quote]Maybe they were taking out the boosters 😂

And come to think of it, those Onana systems only needed to protect a country half the size of Kaduna.

Hoaxen:
80-90% success rate is considered a woeful performance to you?

Those are figures from the IDF, the only mortals that get minor injuries from direct rocket impacts.

shoodboi2:
That is their so-called world order. A world where they cheat, steal, and maim others and then use their control of the media to claim they are the good guys while their innocent victims are the evil ones. The UK was even confident enough to tell Iran not to retaliate after Israel murdered its generals and civlians. We can imagine what would have happened to Iran if it didn't have those missiles.

A quick look at what is happening in Gaza can give you an idea. They'd look the other way as Iranians are starved, mass-murdered, and displaced while condemning Ramaphosa and co for jailing a couple of journalists. The surest way to safety is to either fall in line or get armed to the teeth.

Hoaxen:
Who fired the ballistic missiles?
What kind of ballistic missiles?
At what altitude did the S-400 take out the ballistic missile?
How many ballistic missiles where fired at that S-400 in that singular engagement?
How many ballistic missiles did it take out?
Where and when did this happen?

My apologies. I forgot about the 'ballistic' part while writing the post. The S400 hasn't seen many ballistic missiles in combat yet, but its record against other types is exceptional.

Here's this though :

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/19/europe/ukraine-russia-atacms-biden-strike-intl

Modified.

I didn't even say 'ballistic missiles' in my post though I agree that it gave that impression. I have made necessary adjustments.

shoodboi2:
Iran is already smart enough to not agree to such deal. The very thing that terrifies the bloodthirsty "free" countries is the very thing Iran should get more of. Saddam dumped his ballistic missiles at the insistence of the west in 1991 and we all know how it ended for him in 2003. Iraqis are suffering over that very decision today.

They make my skin crawl

I and my friends can have the means to exterminate you in a second, but you must not be capable of landing a jab on me.

Hoaxen:
1) No Israel doesn't make such a claim.

2) I heard the claim about the S-400 being used for exclusively for ballistic missile defense from you.

Good. So you agree that the Iron Dome cannot be used to stop ballistics. Now events in Ukraine and India have proven that the S400 intercepts advanced missiles efficiently (unlike the thaad, judging by its performance in Israel), and it has been tested against ballistic missiles before.

So even though you can use the S400 to take out ground targets, cruise missiles, and aircrafts, you'd still in safe hands if the primary threat to your country is ballistic missiles. I don't think it can get any simpler than this.

Hoaxen:
No you can't. Imagine buying an iron dome to stop a ballistic missile.

I have two questions:

1) Does Israel claim the iron dome can be used as a ballistic missile interceptor?

2) Does Russia claim the S400 can be used as a ballistic missile interceptor?

DeathParade:
How in the world are you going to take down Starlink? You can't shoot it down, you'll have a Kessler syndrome on your hands. And even capture is impossible with that many satellites. Insane delta v budgets will be needed.

This is the real reason Starlink is a massive threat. And now the Chinese are making their own. Stuff of nightmares.

They are only banning its possession. Of course stubborn people can still use it secretly.

LordAdam16:
Like, it's shocking.

It's no more about hypothetical, theoretical matchups.

We've had two wars to appraise their AD performance.
E kon b lyk say d 12 day war no happen.
Or the 3 year Ukraine war na tv show.

Show us evidence, you dey quote spec sheet.

-Lord

There will always be excuses. You can see how theyre patting the THAAD on the back despite it working with jets, ships, and other sophistocated AD systems within and outside Israel and failing horribly.

The Indians just dropped their latest excuse too 😂

Crayfish09:
The AK47 was never intended to be a sniper by its manufacturer. Its accuracy range proves that. But the S-400 was made with ballistics interception + other tasks in mind . You are comparing apples and oranges.

What the AI says remains an opinion. There is no proof that the thaad or arrow does a better job at intercepting ballistic missiles than the S400, but we know that it has a longer range, meaning it could stand a better chance of dealing with superfast missiles.

That sums it all. I have never heard of a professional sniper attaching a scope to an AK and using it as his primary weapon of choice, but you can buy the S400 with the sole aim of stopping ballistic missiles.

LordAdam16:
Precisely.

Iran drew down its stock of aged missiles.
They served a strategic purpose. To deplete interceptors and gain valuable insight into how Western ADs functioned.

After 3 years, Ukraine is almost exclusively firing precision missiles at Russia.
We've seen the S-400 perform admirably.

I don't understand these western bots.
We saw the failure of Western ADs in Ukraine.
We saw a repeat with a denser network of Western ADs in Israel.

But, but, THAAD is better than S-400.
How? Where is the evidence?

-Lord

The evidence is that USA said so 😂😂😂

While reading about the J-10c jets a few days back, I saw several Indian articles and videos describing the superiority of the Rafael jets over the J-10c. Few months later, Pakistan obliterated the Rafael and other jets with the same aircraft. There is nothing you can do about propaganda