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Mujtahida:
I talk am. E no go pass Egypt. Leave Egypt abeg. Show us sub Saharan civilization.

Egypt was sub Sahara before Arab conquest. You don't have an idea.

It is like saying leave Turkey, and talk about Middle East because they are now part of European union.

Mujtahida:
We were lumped together because we were weak. Enslaved and colonized because we were weak. And we still are. I am not delusional about these things. Many of you try to run from the pain of admitting our people are weak by lying to yourselves.

No wonder we are still backwards. Look at what you are attaching the name of empire and civilization to. I know them - Mali, asante, Songhai, even my people had kwararafa. I know of Aksum, I know Timbuktu, I know of Nubia. All Empires and kingdoms of mud and dust. The value of a thing is known by comparison. If we compare all of these you mentioned with other kingdoms, we will cover our faces in shame.

Black man did not teach the world any civilization! Gosh! Let me give you a small clue. Language and words. When you contribute to anything, even after centuries your words and concepts will outlive your physical empire, presence and contact.

Take the Arab and Persian contribution to European science, mathematics, music, architecture, military engineering, literature, philosophy due to the contact between the Arab and Persian world with Europe from the 7th century through the middle ages, the enlightenment period and the dawn of the modern era.
for example: algebra is derived from al-jabr, alkaline is derived from the Arabic al-qalīy, carat from kirat, alchemy from al-kīmīā, camphor from kafur, Alcohol from al-kuḥūl, algorithm from the great Persian mathematician Al kwarizmi, cotton from kutn, admiral from amir, candy from qandi, caravan from qaīrawān assassin from the deadly marauders known as hashassin.

The catalogue of words and concepts which the Arabs and Persians donated to European civilization is so vast. These are just a few.

Now show me the words from your African languages (as per na we give the world civilization) that is retained in science, in art, in military engineering, in architecture across the world? Show me the Yoruba, igbo, Efik, fante, wollof, fulfulde words that mark our contribution to civilization in all its forms. E no go pass for you to go Egypt.

Please I'm not a rookie on this topic. There was a time I was in my pan African phase. Can't fool myself forever. Nonsense. No make me vex abeg.

Don't deviate from the topic. "Black man does not know how to govern," na big fallacy.

Confusing governance with innovative is the most nonsensical thing to think. It shows you lack the basic knowledge and principles of governance. And I think you got this from your colonial masters textbook.

Innovation does not connote good governance, and the absence of globally famous innovations does not mean that Black Africans do not know how to govern.

Do you understand now? Maybe your village didn't have have any form of good goverance before colonial master brain washed you, but others that had even had ambassadors overseas before that colonial master came.

Let me educate you a little. Mere names and words don't mean some countries singlehandedly innovated something. For example Algebra. Who deceived you it was Arab innovation?

Innovation or technology can spread through imitation, migration, trade, conquest, or incorporation without preserving the original language of the inventors.

Therefore, who developed algebra?, Who preserved it?, Who transmitted it?, Who transformed it?, Who popularized it globally?

It was never originally invented by the Arabs or Persian. Na your salvage colonial master in Europe that encountered the Arab text books adopted the words.

I can mention many mathematical innovation by black man but does that connotes good governance? You are confused.

Now, innovation equals creating or improving technologies, methods, institutions, or ideas.

Meanwhile, governance equals how political authority is organized and exercised law, administration, taxation, justice, security, accountability, succession, public services, etc.

The ability of a government to actually implement decisions and provide services equals state capability.

Economic development equals the ability to sustain productivity, investment, infrastructure, and rising living standards.

Are you saying all these features were not found in African kingdoms of Mali, Songhai, Ethiopia, Benin, Kongo, Asante, Oyo, Great Zimbabwe and other African states that had different systems of kingship, taxation, administration, diplomacy, military organization, law and commerce because of "mud and dust"? Or connotes "Black man doesn't know how to govern themselves? Gosh!!!

Let me shock you, A society can be highly innovative but poorly governed, or well governed without producing world-changing innovations.

You conclusion simply doesn't follow logically.

It shows that all the world were weak because most were colonized. China, India, UK, etc were all weak because they were all colonized.

Your take is weak. I swear.

Compare at what century? Go and read the account of how Benin Kingdom was more organized that London (your lord and personal savior) in the 16th and 17th century.

London was disorganized and full of crime in the 16th to 17 century while Benin City was deliberately planned and had extensive roads/avenues and sophisticated urban organization

"Roads and avenues: Historical accounts describe broad streets/avenues radiating through the city and connecting the royal palace with different parts of the kingdom."

Do you think all ethnic groups in Nigeria had no form of governance or civilization?

Do you think all wore leaves to cover bottom or walked nakedly? You don't have an idea of good governance. Stop confusing yourself.

Napoleon55:

But no single group or region taught anyone civilization rather different ancient societies developed civilized life in different part of the world independently, before some starts to enslave and colonize others.

Apart from historical legacy,does pyramid really add any value to Africa or the world

Okay na. Why do they calm oyinbo brought civilization to the region called Africa?

Make wey dey do as dem do na.

Sugarboyy:
Boss, we are saying the same thing but in different ways. We are both deliberating what would be the best for Nigeria sports. With my idea of how politics and government works, I'm telling you that no matter what, most state governments can partially sell of their clubs, with the state retaining like 10-20% ownership, but they will hardly let go or sell their stadiums. Do you know why? Because firstly they built it with tax payers money, secondly most of these stadiums are used by the citizens in all sports and lastly which would be the number one hindrance, these same citizens might not support the state governments. A case study is what has been happening in Edo State, my State. There is an EDO HOUSE located in V.I Lagos, own by Edo State government. The building contributes absolutely nothing to Edo economy as at today and even when the governor's have tried to sell it off and use the money to build maybe a Benin City Mall in Edo State, it has always been protests upon protests 🪧. Again, I don't know much about Ibadan but you see Edo State? No governor would dare wake up and for whatever reasons says he wants to sell the Samuel Ogbemudia stadium.

Well, they can make arrangement to lease and later develop their own.

Sugarboyy:
State governments can't sell stadiums built for public use because football is not the only sporting activities that occurs in most of the stadiums. Private clubs can collaborate and built theirs or for the main time, government can lease the football field to the private club's.

Do you know the numbers of Stadiums in Ibadan alone?

How many are well maintained?

Diavolo:
Do not let them lie to you. Black man taught the world civilization. -- Just curious do you actually believe this ?

Do I believe or it is fact?

Who built the Pyramids? Do you believe they are whites?

Sugarboyy:
Same government built and established most of these clubs. You don't expect the Godswill Akpabio stadium built by Akpabio as governor using the whole Akwa Ibom tax payers money to be given to a private individual. And don't also forget most stadiums in Nigeria built by both state and federal government isn't only about football, other sporting activities are carried out in these stadiums and they can't sell it to just a football club. That stadium own go hard

Where did you see given? I said buy. That's if they want but all clubs must be privatized.

Mujtahida:
The NFF failed spectacularly gutting the heart out of our football yet he had to be pressured to resign.

Typical black man behaviour. What a race!

At the last world cup, Saudi Arabia,a nation without any football pedigree failed to qualify for the second round. Their FA chairman honourably resigned before the team returned to the country. The same thing with South Korea.

Black man will never resign. And it's all because of the fact that we are a multi ethnic nation because I know deep down Gusau feels he's representing northern interest.

Well, he and his board are gone. That's one side of the coin. The other side is the incoming board. Will they perform? I doubt. Because since I started following Nigerian football from Omehia to Maigairi to Lulu to Pinnick, all effed up one way or the other.

Me, I've concluded that black man does not[b] know how to govern[/b]. Sounds harsh but it's my opinion. I pray I'm proven wrong sha with respect to football administration in Nigeria.

The bolded is a fallacy the colonial master made you believe.

Who governed Mali empire, Oyo Empire, Borno Empire, Ife empire, Ijebu kingdom and several Yoruba city states, NRI Kingdom, Aro Confederacy, Kingdom of Nembe, Kingdom of Bonny, Kingdom of Opobo, Kingdom of Calabar, Onitcha Kingdom etc before the British expenditures?

Do not let them lie to you. Black man taught the world civilization.

Now, ask yourself, why were all these different ethnic groups lumped together to form one country?

For easy manipulation and extortion. That's what you are seeing today.

Sugarboyy:
They will and if there's need to alter the NFF act by the national assembly, Akpabio and Abass are there to alter and pass the bill within 2 weeks.

The NFF act actually the fundamental problem of Nigerian football.

The national assembly should legislation to enact a new law barring state government from controlling and managing football.

All states football clubs should be privatized to 80%. All stadiums should be sold if possible to the new private investors along with the clubs.

Alfryd:
Pls sir can I get your WhatsApp number so that I can send the video

But in case you don't want to send your contact here (public) here's is mine sir

09037535531
I will be waiting for your response
Thank you sir

Noted. Will revert.

andrewbaba44:
For big 2026

Even Alvarez big wey atm reject cost pass osimhen

Abi!!! Barca money na adabracadabra. Today dem get tomorrow den no get.

Enzo5:
where they see money for Alvarez, osimhen cheap pass

Barca, you can't understand their way. Today dem get money, tomorrow dem no go get money.

Enzo5:
Barca no buy osimhn again

Barca get money?

Make Chelsea use the money buy Osimhen, abeg. The sight of Osimhen is enough to intimidate players.

If there is no replacement for Enzo, I don't see the reason for selling him.

Man city just wants to weaken the team. They should have bought him before the deadline.

fredoooooo:
Thats where quality comes in .. you cross in we score 4-2.
You missed the cross , we hold the shirt get a yellow.
A single cross into the box after the shot , they score and draw the game .
Which risk is better.
Quality first and not Quantity .

You think say na game you dey play?

If you like, talk still tomorrow. 3 points first and dis your yan.

fredoooooo:
He did well with the time wasting and end it with an atrocious shot to the side net instead of cross.
In that situation this is a premier league , quality should speak.
Cross is the right thing, it takes the game to 4-2 Game ove4 , when counter comes from it they will hold on to the players shirt for a foul .
Football is all about moment .
9 out of 10 players will cross the ball or shot at Goal. Only you and Neto will play it that way .

Cross am? Make e turn to counterattack...goal 3-3.

Mr, he did well. Na 1 minute remain.

SymphonyRad:
Ghana has Semenyo at Man city already, even Kudus at Tottenham.


No single Nigerian in the Super Eagles set up plays for a top 5 prem team, sad.

What of Lookman and Chuks in Athletico Madrid and AC Milan?

We still get players for FC Porto and Marseille. Since dem dey mention Tottenham and Manyooo.

Napoleon55:
That's what i thought, because either that Charles has the sharpest high IQ,or that we are not sharp enough

His iQ pass Einstein. What do you expect? That's how he usually thinks.

He brings that thing in when he has nothing upstairs to make superior argument.

TheSuperNerd:
Your line of comment was...

"Nigeria had the best defense at AFCON with Ekong and Semi going into the finals against Ivory coast the eventual winners. I lie?"

You namedropped Ekong and Semi alone definitely implying a CB partnership. But you left out the other CB partner in Bassey. There would be no best defence at that Tournament for Nigeria without any of those 3. So mentioning only 2 was not painting a true picture. That is the point.

No, you misunderstood. The subject of discussion was defence and Semi. And for me to differentiate the defence of 2024 and 2026 AFCON, I made reference to Ekong.

The subject of discussion was not the full composition of the defence but for differentiation.

TheSuperNerd:
Semi, Ekong and Bassey were the CBs that formed the core of that defence so Bassey deserved a mention. You were not focusing on WBs and that is why I did not bring in Aina or Zaidu.

As for 2027, Semi is very likely to make the 2027 Afcon if he stays fit. This current EPL season runs into April/May 2027. Afcon is in June/July 2027, so Semi is definitely in the mix provided he stays fit.

Did you see CB in my comment? My focus was defence. Wing back and Center back are considered part of a defence in a 3-4-3 (shifting into 5-2-3 when defending). And that was exactly what we used in that AFCON.

Papi85:
oga you have not outgrown this your tribalism nonsense that made you notorious and infamous here for so many years now

Many here including I myself have hyped and rated players from your tribe. The likes of Aina, Azeez even the said Ajayi when he performs well for the super eagles have been appreciated and showered with praise from the same set of pple you re indirectly tagging to be tribalistic

Bro you need serious help.

Did you read tribalism in my comment? This is a case of the pot calling kettle black.

Can you see that you are the tribalist here?

Were you not the one who called me a tribalist for speaking against dropping Aina from the 2018 world cup final list? Now, you have turned to praise singer.

TheSuperNerd:
Forgiveness you are right on the Experience angle and on the take that Semi is still needed. That is also my stance while also keeping in mind that Semi is not who we expect to see among our defence options headed to WC 2030 and Afcon 2028. Afcon 2027 is a very strong possibility for Semi Ajayi. Personally, I know Coach Eric Chelle wont drop Semi Ajayi in a hurry, and it is not just for experience sake. It is for Defence Chemistry sake.


Now @emboldened... you left out one name. It was not just Ekong and Semi. Saying those 2 names alone does not paint the true full picture.

It was Ekong, Semi and Bassey from Game 2 till the Final. Ekong missed only the 3rd grp game.

Screenshots of that massive trio... all 3 CBs made us the best defence at Afcon 2023 (held in 2024).

✅️Grp stage vs CIV
✅️Grp Stage vs GNB
✅️R016 vs Cameroon
✅️Quarters vs Angola

The purpose of participating in a tournament is to win. If Semi is playing regularly and fit till 2027, he should still be considered.

The subject of discussion was defense and Semi. That was why I mentioned him and Ekong who was the best player of the tournament.

Else, I would have mentioned Bassey and even the 2 WB because I consider the 5 at the back as defense.

Subzero047:
Who said the bolded? Besides everybody that has defended Ajayi used Nigeria's team performances at the Afcon and not his own individual merits which is interesting

My submission is that ability trumps experience everytime and we have young and capable defenders who are ready to take the mantle and that does not mean Ajayi should be discarded

Review your takes again then discepher how it correlates. Ability trumps experience? Let me shock you. Ability doesn't trump over experience based on research in football.

E.g, A raw talented player will fail woefully in a real match that depends on tactical knowledge of the game. Em go fit dribble one on one or 2 vs 2 but put him in a team with tactical understanding, positioning and game intelligent and see him lost.

We see this in training severally. Especially during rondo, one vs one, 5 aside and real match on full field. The difference is clear. Why?

Raw talents lacks these awareness and play street football. While less talented but well trained academy player with several experience in competitive matches will outshine that raw talent with great ability.

There was a time I mentioned that here using my son as an example when he went on trial at Beyond limit. The guy was obviously the best player one vs one and 2 vs 2 but when dem put am for real match, bobo was lost though the coach later acknowledged his raw talent when he was told he was a first timer in a academy. The reason he was given the second chance which he passed but I relocated and that was how it ended.

Therefore, your argument or submission that ability trumps experience has been proven wrong by research. Why you think say our players still have to play for academy when they get transfer to Europe? You don't have any idea.

Kog45:
Semi Ajayi with MOTM award against Manchester United

It doesn't matter. Even an unborn talent is better than him. I am not referring to either of the players they are using to rubbish him but I am stating their mindset. It is nolonger about football matter.

Most takes here are not objective but sentimental.

My premise that Semi Ajayi is still needed does not hinge on today’s performance, rather, it is based on basic football common sense.

You don't buy experience in the market for footballer especially CB player for that matter.

One even lied about the defense at AFCON. He also claimed we failed against Morocco because of Semi. Are you serious?

Nigeria had the best defense at AFCON with Ekong and Semi going into the finals against Ivory coast the eventual winners. I lie?

Same thing with this last AFCON. Morocco even beat us for Semi? No bi penalty settle am? Gosh!!!

I get irritated reading some comments here laced with bias, prejudice and agenda.

Just talk say you wan promote ya own player. That's all.

No sane coach will bench an experience CB for juvenile or upcoming CB. Especially one struggling for game time. Which fitness the player wan take play match?

Abi fitness is not important in football 4 ya eyes? Shoor kelembe tuuuue!!!!

AMINDA:
"You do not build a federation by impoverishing citizens so that Abuja can send bigger cheques to governors. That is robbing households to subsidise governments."

- Alhaji Atiku Abubakar

Do the bigger cheques belongs to the governors or the households?

The Governors are to be held responsible if they can't evenly distribute the money through projects, salaries, free education, cheap transportation, affordable housing, infrastructure etc.

Atiku doesn't understand governance to have made this statement.

The governors are to be held accountable not the executive.

popizaino:
You think if Maresca had won the community shield against Arsenal these people will not be in my mention telling how they always said so?

The only fact constant about Maresca is that he is a fraud.

Winning Conference league with a caliber of Chelsea is not what i will rate him for.

Are you referring to FIFA world club cup as Conference league or you just want to deny he won FIFA world club cup?

Racoon:
-Performance in recent CAF/FIFA competitions and awards: Zero.
-CAF/FIFA Certified referees: Zero.
-CAF/FIFA Certified stadiums: Zero.
-CAF/FIFA ratings; abysmal.

Just imagine! So sad for Nigeria. Nothing works. The NSC, NFF and Ministry of sports have all been a flop under this govt. All they care about is collecting arm-twisting corruption kickbacks and supporting a corruption-ridden FIFA president for re-election.

Is there still ministry of sports? You seem to be ignorant.

The problem with Nigerian football is not only the coach but also the administration and players.

Falcons created chance upon chances against South Africa but Oshoala, Kanu etc threw all away.

What are you expecting the coach to do? They were just missing chances up and down.

Nevertheless, I am not sparing the coach or NFF. Don't misjudge. Just stating the fact.

Besides, until Nigeria enacts a law that forces all clubs in Nigeria to be limited liability, nothing go improve.

All state stadiums could be fully sold out along with the club with clauses to improve or lose it.

Because as long as these state governments are still running the club, don't expect private investors and improvement.

Alfryd:
17

Because of school and location, Sunshine Queen FC might be okay but if she wants try Remo Stars Ladies, I can make enquiry. But post the video let me see first.

The video is what I will send to someone in Beyond limit. Trial is free.

soetanoreoluwa:
Okay nah I'm rooting for you. God will bless it and enlarge it

Amen!!!

Ttalk:
Those who wanted to use it for political campaign won't like it.

Does El Rufai and Malami prosecution have anything to do with reduced banditry?

Since the government have adopted a strategy of arresting the families of the abductors and their collaborators in case of Orire abduction, the bandits now see there is a new Sheriff in town who won't waste time to do to the bandit family what they are doing to innocent Nigerians

I told someone about this idea before the adoption in Orire.

Catch dem family and use them as bargain. Dem no go try am. Because they actually love their own.