Odingo1: You see Ijaws in reality on their ancestral land in Lagos and you are saying they are claiming land.
There was a time Ijaw and Yorubas clash over the ownership of some waterline communities in Ajegunle Lagos.
The truth is that Ijaws occupied that area before the white people came into Lagos, Egun occupied Badagri axis, why Aworis own Lagos island. Yorubas like Egba and others live in upland like Lagos mainland.
If they were there before the white came, why were they not captured on this census?
Don't forget Ajegunle is owned by the Ojora family and it's under Apapa.
Odingo1: Humans don’t have the capacity to decide which tribe they belong to, nature do that for all humans in the world. Your indigenous language and culture define which ethnicity you belong as human on this planet earth.
Aworis, Ilaje and Egun Languages are not intelligible with Yoruba, so they are not Yorubas but they can choose to align themselves with Yorubas for political purposes. That cannot not be said with Ikwerre dialect of Igbo because every Igbo person hear Ikwerre language when it is spoken and vice versa every Ikwerre person hear central Igbo when it is been spoken offcourse saying they are not Igbos is just for political purposes.
Aworis and Ilaje are not....kkkkkk. something we dey hear wella.
Odingo1: You see Ijaws in reality on their ancestral land in Lagos and you are saying they are claiming land.
There was a time Ijaw and Yorubas clash over the ownership of some waterline communities in Ajegunle Lagos.
The truth is that Ijaws occupied that area before the white people came into Lagos, Egun occupied Badagri axis, why Aworis own Lagos island. Yorubas like Egba and others live in upland like Lagos mainland.
See census in 1891 below. If you like dey deceive yourself.
"He was seven or eight when he first came here. He came with his father," he said. "It wasn’t easy to get the ball off him. He was very small, but he was always playing football. He never stopped. He was always playing, at home as well." Andorinha played mostly seven-a-side matches back then and Ricardo recalls one game in particular when Cristiano was forced off at half-time.
"I don't remember exactly how many he scored, but he was almost always our best scorer," Santos said. "I remember a game back then that we played in Camara de Lobos. We were winning 3-0, Cristiano Ronaldo went off injured and we lost 4-3."
And he added: "Ronaldo was called 'abelhinha' (little bee) because he was small and he was very quick, so we called him 'abelhinha'."
The 'little bee' who always cried - the story of young Ronaldo’s path to greatness in Madeira
Later, Ronaldo would accompany his father and when he was old enough, he himself ended up turning out for Andorinha's youth side.
Cristiano began to play for Andorinha, his first club, from the age of around eight, and even then, his talent was evident.
"We were eight, nine years old," former team-mate Ricardo Santos, now the coach of Andorinha, told Goal. "And at that time, Cristiano Ronaldo was already a great player.
"What I remember about him is that he was a humble kid. And when he didn’t have the ball, he cried. When the team-mates fought, he cried. But he was already a good player. He was faster than average, he already scored a lot of goals and he had great dribbling skills."
"Cristiano really liked winning," Santos added. "When that didn’t happen, Ronaldo cried. So much so that he had the nickname 'crybaby'."
TheGoodJoe: There were things I couldn't do until I learned it by mastering the essentials and training on it repeatedly. So what do you think that was?
There are kids that could not juggle the ball at all. However with multiple training they become excellent ball jugglers.
TheGoodJoe: You are still missing the point. The development. There are kids at 4, they are juggling balls. When they play you wonder how they knew such things. There are some at that age which will work hard learn how to juggle learn skills and later become good.
I see Messi as the first kid and CR7 as the second. What you are posting does not counter that in anyway.
That is why CR7 had to be the most hardworking player of all time to keep up with Messi.
Oga, CR7 was already dribbling at 6 years old. Juggling ball no mean say you sabi play.
TheGoodJoe: Learning football as kid is long before the time you are talking about. At the time Ferguson spotted CR7 at Lisbon, he has finished the development I am talking about.
I used myself as an example. The main growth happened from 10 years to 16 years. By 16 years I was a player. By 10, I could not play ball. Ferguson found CR7 after this period. So it does not counter my point.
You must be joking. You mean CR7 finished developing at 17 years old before joining Manu.
So, Messi didn't grow or develop from 6 years old, abi?
Don't deceive yourself. If you don't have talent you don't have though you might improve but never world class.
TheGoodJoe: What I am trying to illustrate is that Rodri feels and believes CR7 was an unnatural talented kid. He worked his way to becoming one of the extremely most talented players in the history of the game.
He is not saying CR7 is not insanely talented but it came from learning and hard work.
His feelings was wrong. He never watched talented CR7 at 17 years old boy. Everyone knew from then he would become world class player.
You and Rodri opinion are those of Barcelona and Pepsi fans. We know they don't like him.
TheGoodJoe: I think Rodri was totally misunderstood. Rodri believes CR7 was not a naturally gifted kid. I understand that because same was for me. As a young kid, I used to even miskick the ball. I couldn't dribble or mark to save my life.
Then came Amunike. I used to study Amunike intently and tried to replicate the things he did. I used to spend long time on the field training alone.
Then came Celestine Babayaro. I learnt marking die hard from Celestine. I had personally recorded matches. I didn't miss Nigerian games to watch these guys on different periods.
They made me and I learnt so much. The icing was Overmars of Ajax. I learnt and practiced to become a good player. Still regret the offer of Coach Monday Sinclair to work with him today. He personally approached me and said he wants to groom me. I was more the school trajectory and turned down the offer.
So the "unnatural talented kid" became a guy that the person who groomed Finidi George and Richard Owobokiri gave a grooming offer to.
It seems you don't know CR7 when he was in Sporting Lisbon. His talent was very obvious for all to see. The reason he was spotted by Manchester United and we also saw what he did there.
So, say CR7 was untalented was pure gibberish. Rodri must be sleeping when he said that.
CR7 was talented dude right from his young age. He only added discipline to be consistent at the top. The same way Messi was very disciplined.
Amoto94: The cowardice of Maresca strikes again you drop your most creative midfielder against an Arsenal side lacking in confidence and form only to put him on while you're chasing the game, he's fortunate that Arsenal were not interested in playing football otherwise the scoreline would've been humbling.
If Arsenal actually decided to play, they will lose. That was why they played deep and safe.