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TayserMahri:
I don't have time to argue over a glass jaw nobody by the name Samorobo Peters. Not when Kenya and boxing had been inseparable twins for decades. Kenya were commonwealth games boxing champions in 1982, 1990 and 1994. Back then mention of the name Kenya sent shivers down the spines of the planet. This year alone Kenya has amassed as many boxing titles as Nigeria has amasssed over the past five years.


https://kenyapage.net/commentary/teams/when-kenyan-boxers-were-kings/

Huahahaha!

Amateurs boxing?

You can do better than that.

Gift Cole Chiori - Global Boxing Federation (GBF) World Super Middleweight and Universal Boxing Federation (UBF) International Super Middleweight Title


Show me the boxing titles Kenyans amassed.

alekside:
It is true though.

Iwobi should try improve his end product. His goal contribution in over 50 games is not good looking.

I agree without any reservation.

raindodger13:
I'm of the opinion that Rohr should mix in a SS formation along side ighalo like against Iceland and Argentina in the Worldcup, preferably Musa. He doesn't have to use that exact formation, just give some Ighalo help up there. Everytime he got into the final third he recieved jungle justice from madagascar and there was no one else to relieve him of the pressure. It wouldnt make sense to keep using this single striker formation and magically expect goals to come from nowhere.

I agree with you on this.

Maybe he should try 3-5-2 formation.

gallivant:
Yes, you lost the moment you decided to chase ancient glory like the Romans. Obaboon was shy to the athletic debate and banned me, the Super chickens were feasted on for supper all over Madagascar yesterday! ProblemChild is nowhere to be found! That's why I insist on you boys letting go of this sports thing. Get back to the drawing boards.

See the question your fellow citizen asked.

Obakillah:
I am not joking. Show me a current Nigerian champion today.

See the answer that gave your fellow citizen TKO.

Are these ancient achievements?

Open your eyes soaked with Changaa and see that these are the current champions in boxing.

forgiveness:
Are you joking with me?

Let me show you level that is higher than what you have got so far in your boxing history.

Don't forget Anthony Joshua was the Heavyweight champion in 2019and he is still in the contest.

Aliu Bamidele Lasisi - WBC International super-flyweight champion

Segun The Machine” Wahab - the World Boxing Federation (WBF) Intercontinental super featherweight champion

Larry Ekundayo - African Boxing Union’s (ABU) Welterweight & International Boxing Federation (IBF) European welterweight champion

Lawrence Okolie - WBA Continental (Europe) cruiserweight, British cruiserweight and Commonwealth cruiserweight champion

Waheed “Skoro” Usman became the new Africa Boxing Union (ABU) featherweight champion after defeating Kenya’s Michael “Shaka” Nyawade

Oto “Joe Boy” Joseph - Africa Boxing Union (ABU) lightweight champion

Waheed “Skoro” Usman became the new Africa Boxing Union (ABU) featherweight champion

Rilwan “Baby Face” Babatunde - West African Boxing Union (WABU) Welterweight champion.

Rilwan ‘Real One’ Olladosu became the new West African Boxing Union (WABU) lightweight champion

They are too many boy.

See what Kenyans have achieved in professional boxing since her existence. Bhuhahahaha!

Obakillah:
These Nigerians can't reason even if there lives depended on it!! Heavyweight is a class of boxing among many others stupid. You haven't won any sanctioned bout by the world boxing body. In 2019 alone kenya won these...

Sarah Atieno UBO Super Featherweight Champion

Fatuma Zarika World Boxing Council (WBC) Super Bantamweight

James Onyango WBF International Welterweight Title Champion

Rayton Okwiri ABU middleweight champion

alekside:
No. All I am trying to say is that you can't use his stats against him and at the same time flaunt Iwobi's horrible stats.

I can because a goal scored by Iwobi weight 5 points but Belgium division 2 goals should be -0.2.

The difference is clear.

gallivant:
Stop repeating yourself, you lost the argument long ago. You need to let it go na!

Which argument did I lost? Boxing?

Kenya don't stand a chance.

alekside:
If it was in a better league the story would have been different. Playing in Belgium 2nd division at 26 years is not defendable

But you are defending it na.

Problemkid1:
The kenyans know already Na. Dem Know that ona na for sure

Though they are dreaming to win it.

alekside:
You said he played as a SS, so I focused mainly on the number of games he played as a SS.

He played majorly as a SS but still played other positions.

ThanosKilla:
At the bolded, who would've been the second striker able to use his head? Ighalo?
And again the quality of our crosses in have always been below average - no power, no swerve, no quick dip - the team may still have struggled. Records show that each time we are chasing a game and we start putting in those crosses, more often than not the exercise is fruitless. I think Rohr knows this. Which begs the question - why have both Osihmen and Onuachu in the team?
After stretching play, what I think the team needed was good movement off and on the ball in the final third which was grossly lacking. My thoughts though.

My advice for the team is to score goals early to avoid chasing games.

Problemkid1:
They have Wayanma

Bhuhahahaha!

Problemkid1:
It's also time to support our Neighbouring country today Senegal. It's time for the wack and weak harambees whatever to go back to their shitthol in Tukana

Hahahaha! Na true talk ooo. Senegal will surely win Kenya na.

TayserMahri:
You'll keep repeating this statement like forever Nobody knows who the hell Sammy Petro was. He accomplished very little. Talk to me about Ali, Mike, Frazier, Lewis, etc.

Huahahaha!

At least, it's on record that Samuel Peter was once the WBC heavyweight champion of the whole world.

Show me a Kenyan that ever achieved that feet.

Besides, we had Henry Akimwande, Anthony Joshua and Herbt Hibe who were once WBO heavyweight champion of the whole world.

Show me one Kenyan.

Humility017:
if you want a local coach...
ogunbote will do better...

Lol... Let him do something with other small and unknown clubs in the NPFL and I will take him serious.
kadiri Ikhana achieved winning the NPFL with the highest point ever with enyimba and he even had the highest unbeaten record... you didn't recommend him but go ask for Aigbogun who could not make tactical sub and changes in the last cadet world cup and even read games for the super eagles....

you baffles me....

enyimba is the Barcelona or the bayern Munich of the NPFL...any average coach can achieve anything like the 2nd place team with them....
so that's not a feet.

I don't know about Ogunbote and Ikhana's style of play, the reason I spoke about the ones I know. John Obuh, Emmanuel Amunike and Aigbogun.

If any average coach can achieve anything with Enyimba, then you should not have suggested Ogunbote and Ikhana because winning the league with these clubs were not a feet. But Aigbogun achieved second position with Warri Wolves. I think this is a great feet.

However, let me remind you, Kadiri Ikhana failed to qualify the Nigeria U23 team for the Olympics tournament in 2004. According to you, Ikhana is a failure with the national team.

You baffle me too much.....

TayserMahri:
You lost 2-0 to a minnow and lost top spot which means there's a very real chance of meeting a big team that will whip your shameless ass 5-0 in the next round.

Which big team? Cameroon, Ghana Guinea Bissau or Benin Republic? Bhuhahahaha!

TayserMahri:
Time to support the Republic of Uganja . Let the Nigerians keep on whining when everyone saw their amateurish behaviour in a serious tournament. East Africa is Kenya and Uganja representing. The rest just fake. Tanzania is useless can't represent in any sport except eating competition.

How far with Uganda?

TayserMahri:
You really have no business at all in the matter. The champion was turned into a lil bitchh by the Klitschko brothers. Which champion does that?

Samuel Peter was once the WBC heavyweight champion of the whole world.

Show me any dead or living Kenya that has ever attained that height in boxing. Show me!

alekside:
21 goals contribution in 22 games is quite impressive for a Second striker. Not like I care about the player though.

However, Iwobi's stats need improvement. Saying a player is a winger is no longer a valid excuse for low end products in football these days.

Did you count 22 games on that snapshot?

Humility017:
just imagine... why do you guys like recycling failure?

so Aigbogun is a good coach for the super eagles?

sometimes...I wonder...

Aigbogun still qualified Nigeria to U20 world cup.

I learnt his team placed 2nd in the NPFL and h was crucial part of Enyimba's success this season.

The problem I see with local coaches is selection.

elyte89:
Abdul ajagun ko ,mtweeeeeehh

So if he gets to play and perform well in la Liga next season, you will will still doubt his ability?

Earthquake3:
You like controversial statements, don't you?

Watch his team with clear conscience.

Philosopher1979:
We need kelechi nwakali in that team. He is a good attacking midfielder. Players like lukman Haruna and rabiu ibrahim should have been invited for the friendlies to see if they are still good. The team lacks attacking midfielders and creative players. The problem is the players we need are not playing for top european clubs and we make this mistake of thinking that once a player is not in leicester he is not good. We even have an attacking midfielder in our local league (i have forgotten his name). The creative side of our game needs to be worked and this fixation with European football needs to end.

I also suggest that we need to play with two attacking midfielders and not one. I mean kelechi nwakali can compliment Iwobi in midfield so as to increase our creativity. Our Journalists need to celebrate creative players and not just wingers and goalscorers. The team is not technically balanced. Also, there is a strange dependence we have on Mike Obi which is outdated and based on his performance in 2005. This is dragging back our football. Having the best striker in the world is useless or limiting if you do not have creative midfielders. Players like kevin de bruyne and lucas modric are needed in this team and NOT players like Gabriel Jesus. You dont get good tires when the engine of your car is not working.

Football is about technical depth and balance and not star players. We have lacked creative players since Okocha and this is psychological. We often REFUSE to invite creative players into our team because of "Mikel Obi mentality". This loss is a blessing in disguise. Rohr should have learnt. When the team played with Iwobi as an attacking midfielder for a year, we played well.

We are wasting Kelechi Nwakali right now because he does not have a good club. This is funny. WE NEEd CREATIVITY IN OUR MIdFIELd.
at least for now, iwobi and maybe chukwueze should be encouraged. At lease, they are the most creative players we have. Mikel is a defensive midfielder/deep laying playmaker and NOT A PLAYMAKER. We need to get over this Mikel mentality. If not, he should be dropped. Egyt has won the nations cup with home based players. There is an urgent need to search for, encourage and groom creative players for our national teams. If not even Ronaldo will not help this team. Just look at Juventus in the champions league with Ronaldo.

Kelechi Nwakali who struggled to make a lowly second division Portuguese league yet you think he's good enough to make the Nigerian national team.

Are you for real?

If you are looking for creative players, we have them in abundance but the problem is Rohr who refuses to bring them into the team.

Eze Eberechi and Josh Onomah are the two players that are good enough for the creativity.

If Abdul Ajagun returns to Belgium pro League or gets a better team then he should be given a chance after he must have performed in the new team or league.

Lukman Haruna and Rabiu Ibrahim are forgotten players. We don't seem to need them.

alekside:
The first stat is impressive why the second is poor.

Look well.

Percy Tau played as a SS while Iwobi as a winger. Based on this, Iwobi's stats is far better and because he did it in a very very very very very very very very very very very very very very superior league.

IronGalaxy:
Nope I'm using Tau' s impact on the SA national team vis-a vis your own Iwobi who's always missing on your national games and is nowhere to be seen at Arsenal. Dude is mad overrated and average and that's how I see it, I don't get why I'm vilified for a having a different opinion. Whether Moses or whoever played in Belgium and performed is irrelevant, I'm comparing the two players' ability.

Ekstein chose to play in Azerbaijan because he wanted to, duh!! I'm simply stating that South African players are very choosy where the play in general, maybe they are spoilt I don't know but it's a fact.

Whether Akpeyi is highly related or not it's irrelevant he's still your number one in a major tournament, you are still the ' mighty super eagles" with a whole population playing in Europe aren't you?lol. You shouldn't struggle to replace Ikeme then but alas you chose a South African based player. He's also not rated this side as well btw. Yes, iwobi plays for Arsenal and is two years younger than Tau but didn't he moved there when he was four? Come on now.

Percy Tau stats in lowly Belgium second division - snapshot

Alex Iwobi stats in EPL with ARSENAL the 2017/2018 EUROPA cup finalists (Iwobi scored the only goal) - snapshot

IronGalaxy:
lol, so obvious. Nail a Nigerian in a discussion and he'll bring Xenophobia in the mix. What's next? Your beloved "HIV"? Dude I used Barcelona, Madrid etc as an example, to mean a calibre of teams idiot. All of a sudden " Zambian" players are good.l, where do they play? I thought our league has crappy players? How come is Zambia out and we'll re in? How come we qualified for Afcon without being defeated in a group with includes your overrated team?

Egypt has 8 players in their afcon squad because they chose to select those players duh!!? You honestly think we didnt leave out European players as well? We don't worship Europe or oyinbo in South Africa, we don't call up a player because simply because he plays in some European backwater . Still Egypt and South Africa has most players playing in their respective domestic leagues

Which player did the EPL buy directly from your league?

Yes, Tshabalala moved to Europe at 34 so what? You said he was our " best" player didn't you? Which means he did the business whenever he was called up. You have players playing in Europe but rarely doing the job for the national team so playing in Europe alone is pointless.

As much as you can point out the likes of Aaron Mokoena, McCarthy, Radebe etc I can also point out that you had better players ions ago, the likes of Kanu etc al. Your current team is average.

You don't worship oyinbo but you use Oyinbo's achievement to front your success.

Do you mean Nigeria picked players from backwater's leagues?

Nigeria players don't do the business well but they have won gold silver and bronze in AFCON more than South Africa in her entire history.

Are you joking now?

IronGalaxy:
The ritual killings league...and we all know where that is

You mean lowly Belgium second division?

Mickael2:
I think Paul Aigbogun should be appointed

I like the way he organizes his team but I don't think NFF will give him the job.

John Obuh is the coach I really like his pattern of play.

Emmanuel Amunike is all about attacking football but that's one way traffic for me. He needs to learn how to defend.

Mickael2:
OK first of all I don't think Chukwueze would have been a good fit for this game no.

I think Musa and Kalu were okay, the problem was with the tactics, Musa kept on running inside and Kalu too. Now imagine if Musa and Kalu both stay wide, as in very wide that means they will keep the two fullbacks very honest and they too will shift wide, then add the fact that Aina and Awaziem will be doubling up on the flanks then the Madagascans will have no choice but to push two extra players to the wings, so that means we have effectively pushed out four Madagascans from the middle, with Ndidi and Iwobi pushing forward to support Ighalo that means we will have three of our players against their six players, and if Etebo pushes high up the field too they will have to commit one player to him and that reduces it to 3 against 5 in their box, the bus effectively no longer exists. This is exactly what Manchester City does every single day, it is amazing that a top coach like Rohr does not know this basic bus breaking technique.


But the main problem is that the Madagascans did not exactly park the bus, they played counterattacking football, their striker was always in our half waiting for the ball and they had two players close to him all the time, so they effectively parked the bus with 7 players, for goodness sake Madagascar managed to shut out Nigeria for 90minutes with only 7 players. I think the commentator at some point said they will tire, but what they did was effective, since Nigeria only had one wide player on each flank, they kept on changing their own players that were marking them and their own players had enough time to recuperate, we did not make them suffer for this win, it was a comfortable win. But for Ezenwa's save and anticipation it could have been 4-1 and nobody would have said they didn't deserve it, because the only chance we got was a defensive error from them as well.

The bold was exactly what we did yesterday but it didn't work.

They should have brought in Osimhen or Onuacha for Ahmed Musa. Then you have two strikers in the box able to use their head to score.

Mickael2:
No bro, you need to stretch the team. Crossing the ball will just play into the hands of the defending team.

How?

ChrisKels:
Sorry u brought in Chelsea. U compared their bus parking to that of Madagascar, so watchu saying really?

Musa was there, Ighalo and Simon were there also

There's nothing special about park bus.

Where is Kalu on your list? Wasn't he there?

ChrisKels:
I am a Barca fan, so I know how to break down even the worst parked buses.

BTW ur argument holds no water bkus the players u fancy and the style u fancy to open up the play were all there and could not do nada.


That said, the only guy that could have tried to shoot accurately from outside the box wasn't there - KeleMessi NachoMbapoe

Are you comparing Barcelona's style of play with SE?

Which player can tire pass like Barcelona players in the SE?

Despite the quality players Barcelona possses, they labour very hard to win park bus teams. Fact

Which players? What did Kalu do? Tell me.

We are talking about tactics and the right players to execute them in park bus situation.

Unfortunately, Rohr didn't go with that tactics rather, he wanted to work the ball in from the side and middle.

Meliforme:
I follow Onyekuru's games in the Turkish league. Onyekuru's tricks and style of play enables him to score even in tight spaces. Ask me how.

I saw him did that too but not in park the bus situation.