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Kgdavid:

i think the majority of posts have been right on point, the likes of queeneve r merely seeking for attention and should be ignored.

Yes Kgdavid!  I agree with u big time on this one but, we also enjoy humouring queenie, esp when the frustration gets too much 4 her to bear, and then u can see shes feeling d need to dramaqueen it! 

Queenie m'dear, pls make u no worry, we feel ya pain too  lol



Another titbit below;

"I feel for both the guy (cos he likes her but is at his wit's end!) and girl (she likes him but is messing it up big time) - I really do.

When I read those things I realise how far I've come in understanding men so I feel sorry for the lady cos she just doesn't get it - he likes her a lot but at that moment, he just likes footie MORE. 

Now that I've understood those things I wish all the guys and girls out there would get it but I guess that's what makes me 32 and not 17,

Ah the drama back then!

Am gonna print out so you can help me a bit with my pidgin.

x"

After all said and done, I got the following perspective below from ma babe, who i've had to refer this very interesting blogline to, we had similar issues in the past but, it didnt go the extremist route that some including queenie here is taking, here goes;

"Ps I think you should write in to advise the guy!

No-one explains it from the girl's point of view - we need to feel secure with our man, esp at the beginning. That's why a guy saying he can't speak can be such a letdown,  Cos you see a woman in the same circumstance would never do the same.  When we like a guy, the whole world can be erupting around us and we'll focus all our attention on him.  So the guy needs to reassure her, tell her he likes her BUT, etc etc"

SO, na wetin she talk be dis.  I suspect some o these people from away, esp the women dating our naija guys have not taken time to understand our men's psyche or pidgin lingo, which is quite worrying, i think,

queeneve:

^^^^^go back to the University and DEMAND your FULL REFUND, they played ya dude!

que?

I wonda who madam queen dey snipe at now o? Any idea guys? We no need degree to join nairaland o, thank God!

Wen i say make ya man ex-communicate u, i no no say d guy go take my advise seriously o, abeg, no vex!

Guys, make un a helep me beg queen man, make e take am back, abeg guys, D mata don serious pass joke o,

State creation, is just another way to break down states into something more like functional local governments. Abi, wetin una think?  And, come to think of it, if possible, turn the so-called (lame) local government councils we have now into district areas or councils.  It could be a (very effective) way of bringing government closer to the people.

Its not all doom and gloom i think.  Just a bit more creative thinking can make the most of a tricky situation.  Lets face it, the politicians have notthing good in mind, when they talk about creating states to meet the yearning of the people.  Most of the so-called people have no idea how states work, or are meant to raise finance to function.

What u think guys?

queeneve:

OSYC,


I am glad YOUR SO CALLED GIRLFRIEND didnt have open heart surgery with FIVE MONKEY SPEAKING FRENCH!

U sound a bit frustrated queenie, take am easy now, is all in good humour!


YALL MEN DISGUSTS ME SOMETIMES,

And, am happy its only sometimes we MEN disgust u ooo, otherwise, we would summarily ask yer man to ex-communicate u or something,

Jakumo:

This story reminds me a bit of the one a few years back when the Pentagon was billed a couple of grand a pop for aircraft toilet seats and ashtrays. Supposedly much of that added cost arose from the need for all airborne systems to be accompanied by hefty reams of Mil Spec and Mil Standard documentation, all written and compiled by highly paid engineers and technical writers.

Oga mi! Please speak english o, we no say u feel am well well, Some of us only understand the one approximate to what you have in (any) dictionary,

chika98:

What is HND equivalent to in the West?

Chika, dont ALWAYS belive everything u read ooo.  However, for reason of clarity, i advise you to (re)define what you may mean by 'the west'?  Here in the UK, it used to be (and still is) = HND. There is also HNC (certificate) version, which takes 6 months shorter to do. In RSA (Southey), it is equivalent to ND (national diploma).

My mates who did BSc with me at uniport, and found themselves in the UK subsequently, could not get jobs. Why? Inferior quality, and am talking dem days when naija degrees were kosher! Those who did HND in naja, where did it get them here? NOWHERE! Why? Samething - inferior quality, so that Oronsanye nonsense is what we call;

a NO BRAINER!!  (rubbish, frivolous talk, thats neither here nor there!)

It wouldnt have been a problem worth discussing and highlighting on here, if it wasnt that this man was (and still is) saddled ith the responsibility of making the Naija Civil Service better. So, he should be expected to be circumspect with words and ideas. Things like that will affect a whole generation!

In more advanced climates, he would have been asked to RESIGN, for such frivolous talk (please see Obama vs Gen McChrystal).

Why so? Because, he effectively sabotaged the government policy of Yar'Adua, which he swore to obey and deliver on, while taking the job as top dog in Civil service, when he accepted the directive to equalise HND and BSc, but instead sat on it and did jack!

A bit like, government saying, from today everything will be done on due process, and the civil servants (like they all do!) say yeah, yeah!

We wont leave the cave we find ourselves in Nigeria, if we continue like this, are we?

Those who use the SUBJECTIVE criteria of one is harder, or easier to get into, have been long ago left behind by the modern world, who have (also) long ago cottoned onto the idea of using better, more OBJECTIVE criteria to set their policies and targets.

The lady above is a youngster who has chose the route of entry theough tecchie skills and, will rise to the top like any uni engineer, both pay and job progression-wise if she does everything else right and, is lucky!

ABsolutely no Arrow will come and keep her (or a he) down, simply on acount of some backwatd and irresponsible civil service rule or mentality.

Imagine how much our civil service brings us back in Naija, and we listen to them when they make these silly decisions?

Na wa

Naija, wakey wakey,

I am so happy thay u guys have really taken time to vent ur ideas about this issue big time!

~Sauron~:

Of course, HND is inferior to University degree. . . . .Stephen Oransanye is very correct!!!
The entry examination that takes you into a University is much harder than the cheap exam that takes you into a Polytechnic.
Under no circumstances should the two be compared.
It's like comparing Ferrarri to a pregnant donkey on a race-course.

But, i think a lot of the people here seem to be missing the point. The penny hasnt dropped yet for guys in Naija.  I suspect we would remain backward, for as long as we continue to reason that, your aptitude, and how useful one could be to society, has anythink whatsover to do with how easy, or difficult it may have taken one to enter (or even exit) an institution - uni or poly/techo.  Guys, thinking like that is simply incredible!

Meanwhile, in rational socities, where they respond to trends in a proper, balanced-thinking manner, heres a clue;

'Bob the builder' tech schools for practical teens
Tim Ross, Education Correspondent
23.06.10


Ministers are backing a new generation of technical schools to train bricklayers, plumbers and mechanics.





Students aged 12 and 13 will be encouraged to think about "learning by doing" and given the option to quit mainstream comprehensives to study at the new university-sponsored colleges.

Under the apprenticeship-style plan, pupils who prefer practical subjects will spend mornings with "a hammer in their hands", and afternoons studying English, maths, science and IT.

The programme for up to 100 University Technical Colleges, each with 600 pupils, has been drawn up by Margaret Thatcher's former education secretary, Lord Baker, and has generated keen interest from the Government.

It would mark a dramatic revival of the system of the Fifties and Sixties when children attended schools geared to either academic or practical learning. But critics fear the new colleges will create a two-tier system that denies teenagers a broad education. In London, moves are already under way to set up a college for 14- to 19-year-olds, sponsored by the University of Greenwich, with another being considered in Brixton. Skills Minister john Hayes said: "I am very interested in what Kenneth Baker has said. We have a very clear academic pathway which we respect. We need a vocational pathway which is just as rigorous."

Lord Baker said: "We are massively short of technicians. If we are going to build nuclear power stations, high-speed rail links, Crossrail and wind farms, we need technicians.

"We used to have technical schools in the Fifties and Sixties and they disappeared. Germany did not make the same mistake and their technical colleges are among their most popular schools. David Cameron likes [the colleges] because they help with his 'broken society'. They can catch youngsters at 13 or 14 who are fed up with their local comprehensive where they are not studying much practical stuff."

But Christine Blower general secretary of the National Union of Teachers, said: "Attempting to separate 'technical' or 'vocational' education from mainstream schools will lead to a two-tier system with technical schools being seen as the poor cousin. While the colleges will teach English, maths, science and IT alongside 'technical studies' they will not teach languages and creative subjects."

* Despite A-grades at GCSE, Natasha McDonald, above, found academic study too deskbound. The 27-year-old from Tottenham said: “I didn't like sitting in class the whole day. I had to do something hands-on.” After an advanced apprenticeship in plumbing at the College of Haringey, Enfield and North East London, she won the Edge charity's vocational student of the year award, and now renovates social housing for Homes for Haringey.

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~Bluetooth:

The man is very correct.it's better to have a bachelor's degree than hnd.even in the civil service,the grade level of a bsc older is [b]higher than hnd

In the UK, what you often find, is job ads for tecchies or engineers generally making it very clear, they prefer someone who has gone though the apprenticeship system (which more often than not, is twined with a poly or local tech for validation - as in HND --> BSc), rather than the tedious and generally stuffy BSc-only route which we copied, but has been left behind in the real world.

~Sauron~:

Poly Students are trained to be technicians. . . . . .University students are trained to be engineers(in lay man's explanation).

That's the difference. . . . . .I don't need to know how to solder a copper wire to a micro-processor. . . .I draw the schematics, a technician(Poly Student) gets the job done.

Now, please guys, dont get me wrong, i am in no way saying BSc Eng is not good or significant. It is but, it generally is for armachait engineers. These are better suited for engineering work related to design, not implementation, and also for engineering work in a society that has matured, in terms of development and infrastructure.

BSc Eng cannot be set above HND, simply on acount of entry and course rigour, thats mad!

The Higher National Diploma (HND) is not equivalent to a university degree, the Head of the Civil Service of the Federation Stephen Oronsaye has said.

Answering questions yesterday in Abuja, the head of service said: "It is not the same curriculum; that is the truth."

He said the Federal Ministry of Education was currently working on a scheme to enable HND graduates to spend an additional year to obtain "something that will be equivalent to B.Sc or B.Ed."

"Let me also say this to you, that there is a body, the National Council on Establishments where this thing was tabled.

"And unanimously, all of them said it cannot be equal; and that is the highest body to take this decision," he added.

However, the head of service, who said he knew of a white paper mandating the equation of both qualifications, advised HND holders to "better themselves".

"I know that the Ministry of Education is already doing something through the NUC.

"The holders of the HND or OND should actually avail themselves of that opportunity to better themselves so that they can aspire to get to grade level 17.

"I am not one of those who will shy away from saying it the way it is," Oronsaye said.

He said it was not true that the civil service system had created bottlenecks for those who wished to improve themselves.


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After reading this moronic statement, by no other than the so-called top dog, in the Nigerian public service, any wonder we are where we are today in Nigeria?

The older generation in Nigeria and Africa, used to be the powerhouse, the driving force, and demanded / commanded respect from the younger ones. Unfortunately, that time has now long gone. We now have the Oronsanyes and IBBs demanding and looking to hold us to ransome, based on seniority. And then, we have to take this kak from them? These people have destroyed us in Naija!

Na wa ooooo

Please guys, what do you think of this silly statement and belief?

Coming from a man, who was saddled with the responsibility by President Yar'Adua (bless him), with changing this (very) backward philosophy of our public sector to impede the progression of workers from reaching (or aspiring to reach) the top hierarchy of the civil service, those ones who have graduated from polytechnic and colleges of technology, on account of being academically inferior, inferior to university graduates, which university? for where? universities in Nigeria? Na wa ya!

Over to you guys,

The Higher National Diploma (HND) is not equivalent to a university degree, the Head of the Civil Service of the Federation Stephen Oronsaye has said.

Answering questions yesterday in Abuja, the head of service said: "It is not the same curriculum; that is the truth."

He said the Federal Ministry of Education was currently working on a scheme to enable HND graduates to spend an additional year to obtain "something that will be equivalent to B.Sc or B.Ed."

"Let me also say this to you, that there is a body, the National Council on Establishments where this thing was tabled.

"And unanimously, all of them said it cannot be equal; and that is the highest body to take this decision," he added.

However, the head of service, who said he knew of a white paper mandating the equation of both qualifications, advised HND holders to "better themselves".

"I know that the Ministry of Education is already doing something through the NUC.

"The holders of the HND or OND should actually avail themselves of that opportunity to better themselves so that they can aspire to get to grade level 17.

"I am not one of those who will shy away from saying it the way it is," Oronsaye said.

He said it was not true that the civil service system had created bottlenecks for those who wished to improve themselves.


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After reading this moronic statement, by no other than the so-called top dog, in the Nigerian public service, any wonder we are where we are today in Nigeria?

The older generation in Nigeria and Africa, used to be the powerhouse, the driving force, and demanded / commanded respect from the younger ones. Unfortunately, that time has now long gone. We now have the Oronsanyes and IBBs demanding and looking to hold us to ransome, based on seniority.  And then, we have to take this kak from them?  These people have destroyed us in Naija!

Na wa ooooo

Please guys, what do you think of this silly statement and belief?

Coming from a man, who was saddled with the responsibility by President Yar'Adua (bless him), with changing this (very) backward philosophy of our public sector to impede the progression of workers from reaching (or aspiring to reach) the top hierarchy of the civil service, those ones who have graduated from polytechnic and colleges of technology, on account of being academically inferior, inferior to university graduates, which university?  for where?  universities in Nigeria?  Na wa ya! 

Over to you guys,

Only the hypocrites on here, continue to insist on condom usage for those who have a steady relationship, we know most of u people dont use condoms, please stop pretending.

I can understand the suggestions so far, and i thank you guys who have have made them, but contraception is what makes those in western societies have only one or two kids even when in a marriage or relationship - pikin dey expensive ooo

Ujujoan:

Don't you know how to use a Condom?

a bit beside the point, this is meant to be slightly less narrow minded as u may think oo, no vex!

not sure wot u mean? is a bit like comparing food and drink and asking to choose from either

all d babes who hav use conny conny to apply, i am (also) using conny conny to apply o,

I have in recent times become concerned at the rate of abortion  that have happened to my knowledge (i was also guilty a few times!) in our society. It makes me wonder whether our women consider contraception a useful tool in preventing pregnancy?  Or is there some other thinking about it?

Recently, i decided to break off my relationship with my gal in PH, for the simple reason she was TOTALLY opposed to taking contraceptives. Infact, the strength of her opposition to my suggestion came as a very big shock!

I would like to hear from both male and females, what the real situation is, or  more like what the real thinking is out there.

I was in the same situation with you not long ago.

I went, i saw, i conquered (my fear)!!!

And yes, they all saw me as that guy that has just returned from where they harvest money from trees on the street.  It took a bit of thick skin, saying NO to ALMOST all of them, and being given a bad name - stingy bast**d, poser, e no get money, bla bla bla. But, now i have been back to Naija three times since that time 18 months ago.  Although, now they still see me as a JJD, but they no longer take me (or think am) a SOFT TOUCH.

I kept on turning them back after the lucky few who penetrated me the first week of arrival. Try as much as i wanted that first week, each story of bad or hard times kept on getting them what they wanted - including money for credit (usually women!),  food for children etc etc.

My bro, just ignore them.  Nowadays, i tell them they should make sure their wives use CONTRACEPTIVES.  It doesnt get me any scores on the popularity stakes but, at least my money dey remain 4 my pocket!!

Good luck!!

Luckily for us ordinary Naija people, this CRIME was committed in a civilised society. Where, it is more likely that the due course of law is followed in a case like this, right up till the end.

So, Mr J Ibori (which kind yeye chief?), an accused, cannot just wake up from sleep one fine morning, maybe on the side of his bed where the sun shines best, and say he does not accept the verdict!   Who gives a toss, whether or not he accepts?   With all the money at his disposal, the civilised thing expected of him, is to appeal on behalf of his ex-convict sister (or whatever the relationship).   Its called putting his money where his mouth is, and stop trying to act as if he is in his Oghara village, near London!   We are definitely not deceived,

They did not convict the rest, because they were NOT GUILTY, maybe since they were mere workers, clearly, Jameeees did not have any blood (is-thicker-than-water) relationship with them, and did not feel he should enrich or empower them (typical Naija ELITE thief thinking!).

Jameeees, give yourself up and face the music!  Stop showing yourself up as the COWARD you are!  No mater how many ducking and diving and delys, you made a fatal error in thinking you could escape the criminal noose awaiting you in Naija, by escaping to Dubai, yeye dey smell!!

I have noticed our people (male and female) always expect something from you. They believe it is quite normal for you to owe it to them, to give them something (definitely not the other way round!). As if it is their right to expect from you a la - "wetin u bring back for me now!"

With our women, it takes a whole different dimension; After a few exchanges, either they are already asking for recharge, or even money, or the usual - "wetin u bring for me, or wetin we go take do weekend!"  bla bla bla.

Our girl finds it perfectly normal to flash u, and expect u MUST ring her back but, never does it occur to HER, that if she places any value to relating with you, she must somehow find that N50 to call and at least speak for a minute?

Now, whenever you try turn the tables, and ask first, they think u are a pest! Where did this selfishness originate?

Ladies n gentlemen, please, over to you, why, when, how, wetin be this, e dey right?

Paeceful(ness) is relative, isnt it? I would say that, throughout most of my time there, save for the incidences I recounted here (maybe some more I may have forgotten), it was as peaceful as I have experienced when I lived in Lagos, P Harcourt, London etc.

I lived over 20 years in Lagos, about 5 years in P Harcourt and long enough in London.

Some ppl who come here to sell, should know this place is a forum for EXCHANGE of ideas and information. Not a billboard for selling items. In which case, they should always try to answer reasonable questions about whatever they may be peddling.

Being tone deaf, or acting so, does not really help there cause.

nice-guy10:

Are you kiding me? That 95% of jo'burg cities are peaceful? Are you a South African?

I am Nigerian. I lived in Jo'burg for 5 years. In this time, I frequented Alex a lot, for the simple reason there were loadsa beauties there at the time! All this time, I also frequented Berea, Hillbrow, CBD and Soweto.

The only time I faced significant crime, was in Hillbrow, when a large rock was thrown on top my car roof, one particular 24th December nite, must have been a few doggone years ago. Other than that, I cant really say I have been done by criminals. Mind you, there was always an almost invincible undercurrent of crime whenever I went to Hillbrow, it always spooked me - Hillbrow.

Also, once in Alex, on a particular saturday morning round about 11am, I was following a car driven by a black guy, he parked middle of the road, and started talking to a mate, i beeped angrily and made to overtake him, then he moved off in a screech!  Suddenly, he stopped again very abruptly, then, got out spoke to a fella on the roadside, I was getting exasperated by this time. Then, he suddenly went round the back of his car, faced me, while leaning on his boot, he raised his t-shirt, to reveal a gun tucked in, for my attention.

He then pulled his T-shirt back, got in his car, and drove off!  Phew!!!

That was that! And, that was as far as crime came close to me, all my lovely time in RSA. I do miss it. I lived mostly in Wendywood, Sandton by the way!

RSA is a hard place, especially Jo'burg, if you keep your head down and get on with it, you should be fine.

However, without your research BEFORE you head up, you are likely to roast to death in RSA.

Ok sorry! PH, its anything from N5k but, all rooms with a/c etc

@MrPrsdent

Thanks mista! But, from my experience with emails to companies (especially if it is to an awkward email addy like sales@ bla bla. or info@bla bla), no company in the US, UK or Naija answers them.

I wonder why they bother to have them then.

Funny enough, your response here suggests you may not be entirely sure of your ability to keep it or not. Personally, i dont think the oath will make you go mad, simply because u go against it but, if you're unsure of yourself, have u thought about getting another job?

Try springhill hotel, rumuomasi. If u are happy with rumuomasi, an area roughly off the aba rd around rumuola-ish
i dont have their phone numba to hand but, am sure u can google it, theres another one, smaller, same price-ish but, cant remember their name, will let u have it when i remember

I recently tried calling Metro, a hotel (in can@@n city) from my workplace a few times on a particular day but, whoever was at the reception wouldnt (or didnt ?) want to answer the call, and kept on willfully turning the call off. Which was a bit infuriating.

In the end i gave up and tried other hotels, which gave me the information i was seeking. I then sent a text to the metro hotel (mobile) number i called, suggesting that i heard a number of good things about them but, was mighty disappointed about their telephone (non) response.

No response - surprise surprise!

Customer Service gone AWOL (or is it gone MAD, ?!!!)


I discussed it with a friend and, he suggested it may have been because my workplace does not display phone number most times, it just says PRIVATE or whatever.

But then, it begs the question: would this make it right that a hotel with such a big reputation as (i am told) metro has, chose to adopt such a backward and retrogressive attitude to a potential customer, for fear of a nuisance call or calls?

Wow! Interesting stuff.

Or, could it be that the person at reception, must have chose to treat the hotels phone as they would their personal mobile?

Please guys, what do you think of customer service in Nigerian hotels and businesses (big or small ?).  Is it not true we are not even aware what is mean (GOOD) Customer Service?

What do you think?

Goddex:

New hotels have sprung up in the last few years to
beat Metro and Mirage. Try Amber Tinapa hotel, Mega hilton,
Channel View or Monty Suites.

I specifically recommend Amber Tinapa. The scenery and
facilities are awesome.

Thanx Goddex!

Incidentally, i tried calling metro from my workplace a few times yesterday but, whoever was at the reception wouldnt wanna answer the call, and kept on willfully turning the call off. Which was a bit infuriating.

In the end i gave up and tried other hotels, which gave me the information i was seeking. I then sent a text to the metro hotel (mobile) number i callled, suggesting that i heard a number of good things about them but, was mighty disappointed about their telephone (non) response. No response - surprise surprise!

Customer Service gone AWOL (or is it gone MAD, ?!!!)


I discussed it with a friend and, he suggested it may have been because my workplace does not display phone number most times, it just says PRIVATE or whatever.

But then, it begs the question: would this make it right that a hotel with such a big reputation as (i am told) metro has, chose to adopt such a backward and retrogressive attitude to a potential customer, for fear of a nuisance call or calls? Wow! Interesting stuff.

Or, could it be that the person at reception, must have chose to treat the hotels phone as they would their personal mobile?

Na wa