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Okudiover: Please don't shoot them, they are also human beings for they know not what they do.

Not again!!! Not again!!! Una matter don tire me!!! Haba... No more words to even say to you...

barcanista: We are in same boat. I'm a very liberal person. No "god of man" can deceive me and non has deceived me. As a sharp guy, I am aware of their "format" . Left for me, Religious Clerics will get no single recognitition from government and churches/mosques/temples etc will PAY TAX!


Btw: I don't PAY TITHE

By the way who needs your tithe

russello: Based on the purpose for which it was formed, CAN is expected to be more political than be religious.

CAN is expected to "seek and fight" for the political and economic interest of Nigerian Christians worldwide.

Ayo as a Pastor in his local assembly (church) or any Christian gathering is expected to be more religious than being political.

Ayo as a CAN President in any meeting or gathering is expected to be more political than being religious.

A CAN must not be ignorant of the politics of the nation.

CAN is not your regular church organisation or worship centre (like CFN).

CAN is expected to be more vociferous as it continuously fights against any political or economic arrangement that is birthed to the detriment of Nigerian Christians in the country.

Of course! CAN believes and uses all the "spiritual" weapons (Prayer, Fasting, Word etc) known to Christians as they pursue their purpose (the Political and Economic interest of the Nigerian Christians).

Godbless the hands that typed this!!!

Cool... I think i am getting to love this set of army!!!

atlwireles: The head of the churches? I am not Stephen, James and Peter. If you slap me, I will cut off your hand here on earth. When I meet my make, i will explain myself. Just imagine, if the church waited for Christ to come and defend it. Your Islamist friends, would have wiped the church off this planet 500yrs ago. They took up arms and met that challenge. That's where we are in Nigeria today. You and your household, can lay your heads down for Shekau and friends to cut them off, just allow me and my household use our arms to defend ourselves. Is not complicated

I concur... Slap me and loose your hands, simple.
They should go find out her Christianity came to Nigeria through Free town Sierra Leone... They should go to turkey and learn. Turkey was 98% Christian and others took 2%, the muslim fought, wiped out Christian through blood bath, cos they where waiting for God to help... Now Muslim are 95% in turkey, while Christians and the others share 5%... Rubbish!!!

TribalEAST: dont misquote the bible. Why did jesus stop peter from continuously attacking the soldiers who were attacking jesus and the rest of the disciples? Why didn't. Paul, peter, james, stephen tc arm themselves before they got killed? Answer these questions or stop quoting me. @bold. Let the head of the church-jesus christ- decide if we defend ourselves or not, not some oritsejafor.

dont misquote the bible.
From what i can see here, it obviously seem you're the only one knowledgeable with Scriptures because all of your statement's you claim everyone is misquoting the Bible... Or are ypu among those that wrote the Bible Since yo have the original intentions of the writer"!!!

Demdem:
U have just given reasons why the bling bling fool need not be trusted. A whole CAN president lied shamelessly to the public.
How come a pastoral jet meant for pastoral work like he earlier explained when he purchased it suddenly become a business venture moving arms funds illegally
Why should I ever believe anything that comes out from his mouth ever again.
The jerry curl paator is a fraud.

bling bling fool

Demdem:
CAN didn't buy the jet. Bling bling fraud claimed his members bought it for him strictly for his pastoral duties.
The question I expect u to answer is...... Using jet to purchase arms in SA, is it part of his pastoral duties?

Pastoral duties or not... He made it clear and sources confirmed it, both the consultant firm he gave the jet to for business, the federal government and other responsible and appropriate bodies confirmed same... Why the hate
Please lets promote peace and support those in authority. This insurgency needs maximum unity from us to succeed in eliminating it

Demdem:
What's sacred in a useless man that does nothing all year long but ffucks ffucks Ffuck and Ffuck in his palace. U see the fool as ur god and yet u still gat room to still suck both bling bling cocck and Jonathan cocck.
Ffuck sls, i however don't have any issue with him as against the fools u see as ur heros.
By the way, what drug did u say ur papa is currently taking?

Me have warned you, until you explain the meaning of bling bling i dont wanna hear that word again or i kee u!!!

TribalEAST: what do you think will happen at the end time? The satanists will rise up against christians, killing them for not renouncing their faith. People like you who go about arming themselves are those that will be lured to join the anti-christ when you realize they have more weapons than you. The best way to battle such people is to preach peace(remember turn the other cheek) The inability of oritsejafor to do that is the reason why he is arming himself to the teeth. Why didn't paul, peter, james, john, stephen etc arm themselves? You don't use violence against violence as a christian; leave all of that to God and his angels who will bring massive destruction on the devil and his followers in Armageddon.

Speaking of the end time scripture records that there would be an Antichrist army, true, thesame Scripture records that they will wage war against israel(the people of God) .... You know the rest... War is fought with guns and the people of God (Bible describe as israel) will stand in battle and God will see them tru by smiting the enemies...
Also, we look at Zerubabel in the Bible, building back the walls arming themselves just to make sure the work of God progresses... Abegi, leave dose matter jor!!!

TribalEAST: and you think jesus christ would be happy that s so-called disciple of his had plans to load a plane with ammunitions and weapons of destruction which are against the peace he came to preach to mankind?

Firstly it was a country that ordered for it, secondly it wasn't his idea, neither was he aware, thirdly even if he was aware and directly in charge i would still hail that decision cos its overdue

TribalEAST: @bold is elijah the author and finisher of our faith that we must live like him? We ought to live our life like jesus christ who, when soldiers came to arrest, showed we his followers how to react, when he healed the ear of one of the soldiers whom peter chopped off. If it was elijah, violence would have been encouraged. I don't believe in CAN neither do I in oritsejafor; I base my trust in jesus. If you like let your love for GEJ and oritsejafor blind you to your destruction...na you sabi. Just know they won't be there when calamity befalls you.

Get something right, do you know that the destiny of Jesus originally was to die for the sins of the world Inasmuch as that was his destiny he even still fled and avoided them until it was his time... Now you expect us to die untimely and be killed for Nigeria sake when its not our destiny nor our time to die SMH* its a pity!!!

Demdem:
What useless news?
What is a pastoral jet that ought to be doing pastoral work doing in SA to purchase arms?

Bros, you are the one labelling it a pastoral jet oh and also CAN's work isn't just pastoral but ensuring the peace and safety of this country... My question for you, why do you hate or have been brainwashed to hate CAN and her PRESIDENT

brownlords: Retardemdem,I know you no Muslim, but my question to you is, since you lick SLS here day and night does that mean you are a Muslim? If the answer is no, and you you calling me a pagan because I asked idiat like you to respect the sacred throne of the Oba. Then you need to return to yaba and complete your medication. Btw did you skip drugs?

Demdem:
Brownfool, am no muslim and I lick no one the same way u succk jonaadaft, ur useless oba and now bling bling fool. U only stand for fools.

Am so sure nor be here una issue start... Make una gather una village people sitdown settle this una matter abeg!!!

MarshRiley: I was disappointed yesterday when some christians came here to rant about the CAN president
Its because you people can dress and go to church without any fear that's why u dnt knw his value...for we in the north that need battalions of soldiers to guide us in church because of our muslim brothers,we respect him and support him and he's so permitted to support whoever he wants to support,he's not a toy boy CAN president for the muslims

Godbless you and ypour children.
Because they can still talk and hold the Bible they have no idea what CAN resident is doing and the battles he is fighting
Plus God be with you and protect all you christians in the north

brownlords: Ignore him, he's yaba patient

Very soon they will understand that northern Christians and southern Christians are different...
We won't just die for nothing... Not without a fight!!! Haba...

atlwireles: Nigeria continues to be the most dangerous nation for Christians—where more Christians have been killed last year than all around the Muslim world combined. In one instance, Boko Haram Muslim militants stormed the home of a Pentecostal pastor and secretary of the Christian Association of Nigeria, and opened fire on him, instantly murdering him.


http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3904/nigeria-christians-murdered

Can you imagine... And they will tell me i shouldn't defend myself because God wants me to die... Smh*

Demdem:
[s]Bling bling fool is a murderer for trading in arms albeit illegally. Did Christ encourage his ever ready disciples to pick up harms despite huge persecution?Go to qouted passage[/s].

Do you listen to news at all

atlwireles: There is a reason God put him in CAN's leadership at this time. The more they cry about him, the more heat he gives them.

Inshort... I am following you...
ThankGod we still have sane Christians...

TribalEAST: you jonathanians have sold your soul and conscience to the devil. Just for GEJ to rule again, you throw caution to the wind. What you are saying in essence is that christians should pick up arms and fight, right? It's either you are not a christian or jonathan has blinded you. We christians are to suffer thesame faith as jesus and his disciples. Only lazy christians are afraid of such so they pick up arms, join political parties etc not knowing that such battle tactics belongs to the devil who's the god of this world and the one that appoints evil leaders. Listen to what jesus christ said when he could have defended himself- John 18:36 - Jesus
answered, My kingdom
is not of this world: if
my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants
fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is
my kingdom not from hence.

[s]. We christians are to suffer thesame faith as jesus and his disciples[/s].
Sire do you know about Elija the apostle of fire in the bible Why didn't he allow the armies to capture and kill him?
Please show me biblical proof where scriptures says we should die
Am not a die hard fan of GEJ yet am not the Christian that sits and get slaughtered hoping to go to heaven.
Also, Jesus kingdom is not of this world, does that mean we shouldn't live on earth Why did God create the earth then? Perhaps i suggest to make your heavenly calling faster you could pack your stuffs and go reside in borno... Anyway am not saying Christians should carry guns anyway, but its time we make decision in politics that helps wellbeing and stop these senseless activities and seriously on a Christian leader can do that!!!

atlwireles: I'm enjoying this, they can keep on crying. They picked a wrong target in Pastor Ayo.

That man doesn't take rubbish... He is not even those God come and save us pastor... I love his style, i love his swaggs, i love his actions!!!

Demdem:
Because the bible which the bling bling fool ought to follow said so.

Please biblical proof

berem: do you have proof to this claim? Which candidate did he endorse? Have you ever seen any Emir or Sultan going for political campaigns? Infact,have you seen any well known Christian Clerics going for political campaigns as the bling bling pastor does?

Nope... I haven't seen any of such. I gave an instance earlier about the reason for the sack of the then sultan of sokoto by Abacha... Although they still do make some political decisions but do so at their sutting room
And wtf* who brought that name bling bling You must be high fine

Demdem:
[s](6) inotherwords the bling bling Pastor will rot in hell[/s].

Bros nor vex... How you take know

[quote author=egift]I guess you may also support a Policeman who hire his Gun to armed robbers - after all he is not the one robbing and shooting the victims, only interested in his fee.[/quote
;DThis boy will will not kill me!!!
Anyway arms are no business deals bro... You can rent you car out in broad day light, can you rent your gun out like that

atlwireles: You are dealing with pretenders, once upon a time in this country, the Sultan could make you want ever you wanted to be. That's why you have people called Aghogho mohammed Akporaro. Pastor Ayo has not only changed that equation, CAN is no more the left hand of the National Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs NSCIA . They are pissed, what else is new.

Thats true... There was a time when the sultan endorses candidates... And whosoever he endorses, wins, and that was final. Now things habe changed they crying wolf!!!

egift: Here the facts my friend:
- It not his Plane that was used for smuggling.
- This is not the first time he is hiring out his plane.
- The jet was donated to him. Till date he has not come clean on who gave it to him.
- How do we know that the smugglers are not the ones who bought the jet initially? And thereby using the good name of CAN Presidency to clean up their illegal business. In return, Mr. Ayo gets to have a free plane ride.
- And don't tell us Mr. Ayo hire out his Jet on a "No Question Asked Policy".

Let me assure you, for Mr. Ayo and and Jonathan to bury this evil of smuggling will require many truck load of lies.

Yeah... Same plane in all
Now, he was bought a jet and you expect him to come out and declare the donor You guys should just tell him to come and declare his assets, declare his HIV status, declare how many times he has sex with his wife...
And by the way, as do every Nigerian, he has right to run businesses that includes hiring his jet for Private/public use. When you lend your car out, do you monitor who it carries?
That ain't your business!!! Neither is it his in respect of his jet!!!

ntyce: Pls give an instance where the Sultan has shown to be political.
A smart religious leader will learn to stay away from politics. It's dirty, very very dirty.
Oritsejafor has been stained by the dirty waters.
I am sure it will be in the constitution of CAN that the society be apolitical.

If he has interest, he should resign and play along.
I await him disclosing his PDP party id card.

A smart religious leader... So they've just been smart. One man i know has been a major say in Nigeria politics, ranging from Governorship elections to top decisions is the sultan. The sultan had somuch power. What made General Sanni Abacha sack Alhaji Ahmed Dasuki, the then Sultan of Sokoto and replaced him It was because he was close to IBB then and Abacha had ckues that he was involved in the coup that took place in 1985 that brought IBB to power and still had this link with IBB he didn't trust.
And by the way, its just being hyped because it involves CAN/CHRISTIANs...

egift: I understand and appreciate all your views.

Let me point out that as CAN President, Ayo should be a Spiritual Leader not a political jobber.

Here is Jonathan and Sambo waiting for the Oba of Benin
https://nigerianecho.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/image.jpeg

Here is President Obama bowing to the Japanese Emperor Akihito
[img]https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/746081_obama-bows-5_jpg9b4a563e1b59c46eee01f3d2a84af75f[/img]

Ayo do not have to become Jonathan's errand boy and facilitate money laundry to have the respect and attention of the President

This money laundering you are hammering on, i really want you to logically look into facts plus you don't make decisions on speculation especially not this season of politicised media...

OgologoDimkpa: Don't mind them jare!

This thread is nothing but another Boko Haram sympathisers thread .
You'll only find APshit members spewing rubbish here.

This is not a boko thread neither am i a boko fan... Am simply is support of the C.A.N president meddling in partisan politics... So don't be too quick to label things!!!

egift: A a Christian, I get involved get involved in church outreach programmes. And a Web Developer, I am assisting churches get a website to help them expand their reach in spreading the gospel of Christ. How much more Ayo who is a Minister.

And you should hide your face in shame for minimizing Ayo's duty to preach salvation to a pitch against me.

Why develope web Why not just go into full evangelism That my point!!! He has work to do, he has his purpose, and his purpose is being CAN president and the end point is to bless life. Just the way the web you design ends up being a blessing to others at the end!!!