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Pidggin:
I hope you read what the adult son wrote about his father?

Which was all lies as refuted by his father here.

The man has been begging Oduah to return the children.

The female daughter is in his house. How come she regard and recognize the father while the idiotic son that wrote the thrash didn't.

Did you read on this passage where the man said the dead son was reaching out to him and even visited before his death?

Pidggin:
If you investigate I am sure most of the people shouting abomination on this thread are still the same people who will sleep in Church and condemn others for being sinners

If you claim that she has committed a sacrilege then you are an Idol worshipper and God will punish you if you use the same mouth to condemn others who sin. You cannot serve two masters, either you choose to obey the gods of your ancestors and abide by their laws or you follow Christ and abide by His laws.

There is a difference between a sperm donor and a father

When did the man became a sperm donor?

Years after being married and having over 3 children?

Scam alert

The pictures are of different cars.

The RCCG on the first picture prove my point

freecocoa:
Thunder fire your mouth/fingers to shreds for typing the word "refinement" to me.

How exactly do you have time for your supposed husband if you are always 'pursuing' another woman? I've told you I already got a woman I'm involved with, learn to deal with rejection biatch.

You and cursing eh!

Lawd have mercy.

You need help and very fast. Being an old spinster could be depressing that I know

freecocoa:
I don't even know what your own is, the hediot called TV, we all know wants some pvssy as he obviously needs to get laid, judging by his endless whinning/fighting with women on here, I wish your claim that I was outta school five years ago were true sef, at least, I'd have gone farther than where I am now and tell me again why I need to justify how old I am to you?

You people just don't get it, it's sad.

Calm down. Behave nice.

You might be having altercation with TV but thousands in ghost mood are reading your outbursts.

Show some refinement.

Freecocoa feeling like the worth of Leonardo da Vinci work... Mona Lisa.

You that beg Realty 101 for love
You that beg Chucky234 the scam artist for love not minding he has a love child.

You that open a thread looking for boyfriend on romance section.

Chei.

Every lady be forming Kim Kardashian on nairaland!

All the VIP she invited sent representatives. They don't want to be associated with sacrilege

eyinjuege:
This man, you have come again. Of all the OP wrote down, you've still managed to turn it around and say she deserved to be abused.
What kind of person are you?
Why do you feel acts of violence and abuse are justified especially in partners?
It's those that are on the hot seat that know where the shoe pinches. No one wants a broken home, especially for their children.
Pls, before you cast stones and before you try to remove the speck in other people's eyes take a deep breath and remove the log in your eyes.
Learn to show some empathy. She never said she was chased out but rather left by herself to preserve her life and sanity. She has just come to ask how to get the father of her children involved in their lives.
That's what a responsible parent does. She's acknowledged her husband was a good father, albeit a terrible husband for her. She never said the man did bad towards their children.
"Let him that thinks he stands take heed lest he falls"
Dazzall

I didn't want to join issues with you but I'll try as much as possible to re-engineer your thinking faculty. I'm a SHE for the records.

I never doubt her story. In fact I sympathize with her predicament and pray she finds a lasting solution for the greater good of her family.

My submissions were only trying to alert her of the dangers of accepting the bad advice from ignorant ones who sees marriage as a battle ground between the husband and wife. With the prevalent divorce cases in our society today, are we right to say our sons and husbands are suddenly becoming satanic and demons. Who raised them?

I am all for conflict resolution on how to preserve the family institutions so that our children would have a feel of family life. In doing that I've decided to wage war against family dissidents. People who present to the world that their marriage is bliss but every other man a woman complain about is the devil himself. There's no marriage without its peculiar challenge so if a sister is bold enough to seek for advice, rather than condemn the husband as though he is the worst of life beast we should give advice to her on how to manage the situation referencing how we tackled ours for those of us married.

So Oga, get the facts right before you consider playing to the gallery for cheap nairaland likes soon to come from haters and cheerleaders

freecocoa:
Dude(can you even be called that, you know cos rumour has it that you are like oolllddd)I don't wonder about you, so why would I wanna see your pics? If I really wanted to, I'd have seen it by now, especially as there are people with it, who are more than willing to let me see it, still I haven't, doesn't that tell you something? Like nigga please, I have no interest in old men, especially hypocritical ones, if you don't know, I'm still in my 20's, just incase you wanna say I'm desperate or something.

Yea well, might be true for you but I'm into fine boys, so no, you don't qualify.

I've told you time and again to leave me outta the peeps you care for, you can't even get me a man, were I looking, I'm everything you hate and more, remember? Like I'm absolutely morally bankrupt with no remorse, so why the feck do you still care? You need to ask yourself that question.

I have no interest in people's husbands and you know this, seeing as I try my best to avoid you but you just won't back down, it was all jokes on that thread for me, I don't speak to anybody on that thread outside NL, so Mr man, free me as I'm not your girl.

Five years ago you were out of the university and was on nairaland. 26 then and still under 20s now?

I can see you're good at arithmetic regression

Exercise in futility. PDP will win the election

kokoprincess:
He is a very manipulative man. He is using all means possible to manipulate me back to his house. He is not ready to submit to counselling ,write an undertaking never to hurt me, work on his demons. He still sees his behaviour as my fault and has refused to take responsibility. For years I actually thought it was all my fault.

I didn't read this part before I posted earlier but the wicked one has already done the damage. She wants you to view your marriage from her perspective and you're now a willing tool of destruction.

If you've her type as a friend in real life, then your hubby did the right thing by chasing you out.

You have told us all the wrong things your husband is doing to you and your kids, please can you be magnanimous enough to tell us what wrong you are doing to him so that we can balance our thought process and provide the missing link.

There's no smoke without fire. In marriage no mate is right until understanding comes.

cococandy:
If he was really a good a father like you say, he won't hurt his kids to manipulate you into coming back to him knowing that he's most likely going to continue the abuse. What kind of good father doesn't care that his kid misses him and ignores when you try to reach out so that he can even just say hello?

Spending money on children is not all there is to being a good parent. Respecting the other parent in their life (not abusing them) and being there emotionally for the kid/s is even more important than dumping money on them.

Ignore this advice. She is a bitter woman.

Even when you said your husband is a good father... She cast doubt and tried hard to demonize him. She went on to psyche you into believing that whatever he's doing good he's still evil. If your husband is that bad, your kids won't miss him.

Be cautious. Be warned of evil ladies. She has also wickedly infused into you only if you heed that your husband won't stop the abuse. That's trying to convince you never to think of going back to him.

Notice one thing, she didn't give a rat azz what you did wrong or the cause of the friction between you and your husband, Her concern is just to paint the man evil. Ask your self, are you perfect?

Beware of advice from vindictive and wicked people who is not ready to sue for peace but to destroy. They'll paint their marriages perfect before you not until you get a glimpse of what they pass through and working tireless hard to keep their cash cow.

Be warn Op.

CSTR2:
Nobody is denying the fact that they will be assimiliated. Ofcourse, igbos are civilized and would always recognize their own blood.
But when it comes to high positions, especially ones keenly contested in the Igbo community or as a group, that fellow is already at a massive disadvantage.
Infact, it would take a miracle for such a fellow to rise to any prominent position in igboland. That is the fact. It is inhumane(I know), but the fact nonetheless.
Children are traced to their father's house in igboland, and rise and fall on that merit.

A wise and proud igbo man will find it difficult to pass the night in his maternal home how much more relocating there

manny4life:
I just don't like arguing without purpose. You were born in the heart of igboland without a name. Like I said before, go and your elder how it's done when a man demands his bride price back. This is not any man, but a husband.... I won't argue this anymore. My part of Igboland is very known, so this is how it's done.

I don't know in your place but I've never seen a man demand a bride price back! A megre amount of money to exercise that much energy?

When marriage breaks up, it is usually the woman family chasing the ex husband to come collect his bride price. Why because it forms a significant traditional obligation. It declares the woman free of every marital encumbrances.

Remember there are other rights done on the woman for the kinsmen and the community. Have you seen them return it? That done to the community is the most significant that marriage has taken place and the woman married out. It's never returned

I know of a family not divorced but separated. The man ran far away and the children grew up not having a father figure. Their mother never told her children bad about their father and their father never explain his absence or tell them anything concerning their mother.

The grow up hating their father cos he wasn't there. But as they attend adult hood, they discover family members too despise their mother. The form a strong bond with their mother to fight adversaries and wicked family members.

Lo and behold, it took the first son 39 years to find out himself that his mom chased away the father with her character and began reconciling with the dad. The mom saw the unity, became uncomfortable and rallied other children still under her control against the first son.

The third son became wise and saw the light, she declared full war against them. Family is in disarray now as the female ones is against the males plus the second son giving them the man back up they need.

That's a woman power

manny4life:
When they say "nwoke nwe nwa", it does not mean literally. Go and sleep, you don't know jack about Igbo tradition. You see yourself, it's not man returning any bride price, the woman's family is returning it, and it's done differently. Nnewi tradition I am quoting for you on NL, go and ask Igwe , and stop ranting on NL. You know nothing about Igbo tradition.

I was born in the heart of igboland. In my community, no woman returns with children belonging to another man

manny4life:
Nne go to bed, I doubt you have any idea on Igbo tradition. This scenario is quite different because your dad and his kinsmen are the ones going with you to pay the bride price. Absolutely different.

I wasn't born yesterday. Igbo men are traditional and proud species. If you don't give them their right, you start all over again.

Just hang on but is about to boil, that Delta man will will exhumed that corpse even if it will take him ten years expect Stella Oduah confess that's not his biological son

manny4life:
You're right that's what in-laws (ogo) do but not IF the man divorced his wife and has taken the dowry paid. If this is the case, the children would be given their own land away from their father's land or go to their mother's house. Biko, this is not omenenu, go and ask any elder what that means.

However, before emissaries are sent, your immediate in-law to whom this is affected would have reached out to the family FIRST. In this case, the father shouldn't have waited for emissaries considering it may take up to a week or more, he should have left for his wife's place immediately hearing the news. Obugho so ofu onye nwe nwa (it's not only one person that owns a child).

Like I explained before, he did not have to contact Stella or even the kids, all he needed to do was go with his kinsman (Umunna) or delegate someone to know if the news is true. That's what EVERY immediate in-law does. After confirming that it's true, then the wife's family would send emissaries to "formally" inform the husband's family (him, his family and kinsmen), who would confer with them on how to proceed with funeral rites. You can't wait for a whole week for your in-laws who're in grief to immediately dispatch emissaries to all their in-laws, it does not work like that. Go and ask any elder if what I say is true.

In igbo land children belongs to the man. If you like divorce, hence bride price is paid, whatever comes out of the marriage belongs to the man before the marriage breaks.

Igbo men can never return bride price and return children as well

ikp120:
Even a teenager knows that if I call you on phone and inform you that I just paid 10 million naira into your account and later you go on media and tell the world that you didn't know that I paid money into your account, then you must be full of mischief and a bloody liar. That's the case here. Let's call evil evil. When I saw the news that the man didn't know about that guy's death, I was stunned, only to now hear that he was informed. I hate people being mischievous.

When you want to marry, call your dad on phone and invite him to your wedding. With all things being equal if he attends, I change my surname.... It's a promise

CandyDiamond:
[/b]That guy is a male tribal bigot using female Monica[b], don't mind him.Go through his post in other threads.

Whatever makes you feel better

CandyDiamond:
In Igbo land, If the marriage crash,and the woman return to his fathers house for a very long time, the children have right to be assimilated into the kindred of his mother and they will be giving land to build their house and be buried if don't don't wish to go back to their father's place

Umunna is the highest organ of family unit in igbo land. That young man won't be admitted.

It is better if a member of umuada has a love child son at home that will bear her father's name than one where a divorcee run back to her father's compound with legitimate children of another man.

Make no mistake, Stella Oduah script what that young man read to the public cos he won't do it without her authorisation. It was a perfect ploy to give substance to their evil action. She's a politician

Pidggin:
I wonder about your root. You seem to blame the woman for everything, are you not in touch with your feminine side or are you a male? It's either one of the two although I think you are female but don't understand yourself

I am for justice and upright. I don't support evil. A woman hurriedly burying a son without consulting the biological father is pure evil.

She buried a son to another man in her father's compound. Why didn't she take the son to be buried in her maternal home and disgrace her father too.

ikp120:
Why on earth would the man declare to the world that he didn't know the guy was dead whereas the son had called to inform him only for him to bash his mother? The man, if what that guy wrote is true, is truly a mischievous fellow. He is truly a shameless man. He needs to apologise to his generation for that. Who tells that sort of lie, if not a mischievous, bitter and shameless fellow?

In igbo land, an emissary will be sent to the man to officially inform him that his son living with his ex wife is dead. Whether he was an absentee Dad it doesn't matter, he properly married the woman and she bore him a son.

The man will take a delegation to the in law place, do whatever they ask him to do and take his son for burial.

Case closed.

ikp120:
If the father did what that guy wrote, then he should be ashamed to call either his son. The man abandoned them and married other wives, now he wants to bury who he didn't raise. He even denied being aware of the guy's death. What else is that if not acute bitterness and outright mischief. Some men don't deserve to have sperm

Really?

How did the guy knew the parents were having issues if not the version as told by his mum. Remember the marriage was short-lived not like the were teenagers when it happened.

Do you even realize that the first thing a woman do after having issues with husband is to run away with children?
Do you know that some women will never allow you near their children except you reconcile with them?

Oga, the reason people fight custody of children is to avoid a situation like this cos the custodian will use the children against the other partner

Brainwashed idiot. How can a son lambast his biological father like this no matter what the father did?

Without him you don't have this life. Reach out to him through other means than to throw hate at him using public medium.

Drop him names and answer Oduah and walk with shame.

freecocoa:
Shey you are married, no worry, your husband is the next on my list of men to chop their money, very soon you won't have to tell NL stories about chucky but how I stole your husband, I'm sure that would make for a more interesting story than the stale one on your fingers, anumanu.

I'll lock up my husband in a room with 12 Sexy virgins and in 2 weeks he'll come out saintly with all the seduction expose to him how much less a daughter of eve like you with no spiritual fiber. He'll use the Bible and break your head

freecocoa:
Me wey dey live for village, I never go lagos before na. Abeg I go manage that your friend as him come slim join sef but hope say him bank account no slim too o? The argument no go be problem, if we finish we do make up sexy things.

Forward him contact info sharparly biko.

Freecocoa, I thought Chucky234 is bald? Anyway by his hair type he should lose some hair in the nearest future.

Have you guys spent all the money he scammed from the Mercedes Benz car?

That moniker telling you about Lagos maybe he didn't know Chucky234 your darling stays in Lagos and Lagos is your home

Beremx:
I wonder what he has to tell Buhari.


Oga Zuckerberg, have it in mind that Buhari is not a listening President . Save your strength for another thing meaningful. No close door meetings in the past with him has yielded positive results.

Nothing Prayer cannot do.

We prophesied, you didn't hear, thank God the outcome humbled you

geostrata:


We've brought the car to carry her to her village

This is not a car but motor.

Motor can be any combustible engine.

tempest01:
I saw the current MMM advertised by a friend sometime back and I quickly waved it off as a scam as with the HYIP and other ponzi schemes.

https://www.nairaland.com/3321916/sec-warns-nigerians-dangers-mmm

Given this topic that was on the front page today, I saw some comments by people and it was noted that ''There is no pool of money with the current MMM and therefore they can't run away''.

Given the nature of their business, with no investments and the fact that they have put in resources in place to allow for this trade to happen, it is pertinent that one day or another, they will close down, and they won't go through that stress without duping people of their money. Seeing the topic today, I had to register and checkout how the model works , and also brainstorm on the eventual way the MMM operators will dupe those that are in the system.

I am giving a scenario here and though it may not play out the same way, there should be no denying the fact that one day - which i wll term as ''the day of reckoning''. the MMM site will shut operations and will try to make as much as possible from your funds before that.



Now here is the scenario. As there is no pool as someone rightly said, I registered and saw the mode of operation. It is worthy of note that the same MMM site runs in several countries:-

Nigeria
South Africa
India
Colombia
Turkey

So from my postulation, the fold-up will happen in a month - The month of reckoning-- across all MMM sites on that month because anything short of that will send panic to other countries and they won't maximize.

The scenario i see playing out is that the handlers will have bank accounts or agents in all countries of operations and in the month of reckoning, as there is no pool of money, all the ''get help'' requests will be paused - Not paused perse, but no ''get help'' request will go through and will be pending as they won't publish it.

Now the ''Provide help'' will be allowed to work, but the account shown will be that of the handlers of the site (or their agents) and people will keep providing help, but it goes to the scam account. Now this will go on for a month as you have to wait for a month to use your Mavro. The first people that will notice the scam will be the ''Get help'' People as they will keep waiting, but no help will come. Then ''Provide help'' people will come to know after a while and they MMM people will release a statement saying the ''business model experiment failed and they are shutting down''

Be wise Nigerians....

Alternative views and constructive arguments are welcome

You're even postponing the evil day.

I think MMM agents are currently pulling out people fund everyday and asking the downline participants to pay their creditors.

It'll come crashing when the government intervenes or other factors as you listed them

This is the propaganda they want to sustain this new month.

If they like they should draw it pass Fayose village, dollar is still rising, aero contractors have stopped flying, inflation is all time high.


Abacha sold oil for 10 dollars a barrel and surrounded himself with seasoned igbo economists like chu okongwu, Kalu idika Kalu, Paul ogwuma etc

Obasanjo was wise and surround himself with the same finest igbo economists like Prof. Charles Soludo, Okonjo Iwela, etc

Jonathan was sensible and used Okonjo Iwela, Arume Oteh, etc

Buhari came onboard and handed the destiny of Nigeria economy to an entry level accountant, drove those who could have help into ministries and brought in his fellow Islamic champions as kitchen cabinets