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Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by frevangel(m): 9:14am On Oct 02, 2013
ledafaze: Its only a baby Christian that can say this... But I tell you truly, God hates sin but there are exception in some people oh... You guys might want to eat me raw but take it or leave it.

Example...
God's word is final but to some, he does it their way mind you... so just find a way to Romance Jesus so you can get to that level.
My brother, this is heresy.

There is no respecter of persons with God!

Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

Colossians 3:25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

Ephesians 6:9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.


God has no respect of persons.
He has exalted His word above all things. He can not go against His word.
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by frevangel(m): 9:05am On Oct 02, 2013
mbulela: You have a point but you also missed a point.
Sinning is not what makes you a sinner.
Having a sin nature is what makes you a sin.
The sin nature is broken instantly at salvation but living in line with your new nature takes time (based on the cultivation of a close walk with God's spirit and His Word). 1 John says IF we sin,not WHEN we sin. God expects his saints to mature into a life where sin does not dominate their lives.
However, God does not love you any more because you are not sinning than when you sin. His love is everlasting. Nothing,absolutely nothing changes that. His love is prodigal and scandalous. If you grasp a bit of how deep his love is,you will hate sin with every fibre of your being. Not the opposite.
There need to be a balance.

16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

The flesh will never stop desiring to sin.
The true fight of every believer, is the fight to remain in control over the flesh. The fight to Live by the Spirit.
That is the true fight of faith!

1 Cor 9
24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.
25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by frevangel(m): 8:36am On Oct 02, 2013
To add to my previous post.....


The fruits the bible speak of are clearly stated in several verses:

Galatians 5
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

John 15
8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
Christianity EtcRe: The Distorted Message Of Grace That We Preach by frevangel(m): 8:30am On Oct 02, 2013
Tgirl4real: I would like to share this verses of scriptures with us today. I am not after whether it was written to Jews or gentiles or which ever dispensation as some would say. lol. It is the word of God and if you are a child of God it applies to you.


Revelations 3: 4-22

"And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou were cold or hot.

So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth.

Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy unclothedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."


I got angry reading an old thread I contributed to this morning. The thread is about grace Vs obeying God's law. What is it with the gospel of grace that is unable to save anyone that we preach all around today? Why do we take one part and leave the other part that involves we living up to what we profess?

You claim God has saved...how do we know God has saved you if we don't see fruits of righteousness at work in you?

Reading scriptures this morning, I see a lot of contradictions between scriptures and what we preach out there. Many are expecting a Jesus that will rub their heads and give them bear hugs when he appears.

Hey! wake up! Judgement is at hand!

Don't let anyone deceive you. Search your heart and be true to what you believe.

James 4:17
"Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin."
Op, God bless you real good and continue to strengthen your passion for His word.

We need to preach the scriptures as is more than ever.
Ravenous wolves have crept in un-noticed and is deceiving many with the gospel of Universalism.


Acts 20:26-35

26 Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men.
27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.
33 I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel.
34 Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.
35 I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.



Matthew 7:15-27

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
PoliticsRe: Are Prophet Suleiman's Prophecies Coming To Pass? by frevangel(m): 5:29pm On Sep 20, 2013
chris baba: Dude, ure right, but prophecies re also meant to warn nd prevent coming evils, maybe you need to know that jeremiah never brought any good news to the isrealites. Prophecies re relative "if you will be willing and obidient you will eat the fruit of the land" so if ure not then these sorts of prophecies are meant to setve as warning. Read revelations too, tje letters to the 7 churches, it was mostly of evils to come if you dont sit up. Jes wanted you to take two sides and not base ur expression on only a portion of the bible.( prophecies re meant to edify truly, but individuals interpretations determine if he would allow it edify or discourage him).
I get your point, but look at my posts again, prophecy that does ANYTHING OTHER than what the Word of God says it does IS NOT FROM GOD.

Even when it is "warning" it draws the hearer close to God with LOVE not FEAR. Fear is an evil spirit.
And of what use is it to Mr. A if God is warning Mr. D and I decide to tell Mr. A, B, and C?

Compare the supposed prophecy with the story of Hezekiah:

2Ki 20:1 In those days was Hezekiah sick unto death. And the prophet Isaiah the son of Amoz came to him, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Set thine house in order; for thou shalt die, and not live.
2Ki 20:2 Then he turned his face to the wall, and prayed unto the LORD, saying,
2Ki 20:3 I beseech thee, O LORD, remember now how I have walked before thee in truth and with a perfect heart, and have done that which is good in thy sight. And Hezekiah wept sore.
2Ki 20:4 And it came to pass, afore Isaiah was gone out into the middle court, that the word of the LORD came to him, saying,
2Ki 20:5 Turn again, and tell Hezekiah the captain of my people, Thus saith the LORD, the God of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will heal thee: on the third day thou shalt go up unto the house of the LORD.
2Ki 20:6 And I will add unto thy days fifteen years; and I will deliver thee and this city out of the hand of the king of Assyria; and I will defend this city for mine own sake, and for my servant David's sake.
2Ki 20:7 And Isaiah said, Take a lump of figs. And they took and laid it on the boil, and he recovered.



You tell me if what you just read and what the op posted as prophecies are the same.
Did you see Isaiah announcing to the NATION that Hezekiah the king will die?
PoliticsRe: Are Prophet Suleiman's Prophecies Coming To Pass? by frevangel(m): 4:35pm On Sep 20, 2013
pafestula: He is saying according to the way he was shown, it is FAKE prophets that based all his/her prophets on goodies, which you people love to hear always, and that is why they keep telling you people what you want and wish to hear to make you happy. e.g... ''it is well'' whereas nothing is well, another example '' The lord told me that there is somebody here tonight'' bla bla bla, imagine..what do you expect when a crowd going to 10,000 gathered, there must somebody that such fake prophet must tally with.
At the bolded, here's what prophecy does to the hearers:

1Co 14:3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. KJV
1Co 14:3 But those who proclaim God's message speak to people and give them help, encouragement, and comfort. GNB
1Co 14:3 But he who prophesies speaks to men words of edification, encouragement and comfort WNT

I gave you several translations to show you the same thing: PROPHECY IS FOR EDIFICATION, EXHORTATION AND COMFORT.

To strike a balance, all those, "someone is receiving a new car today prophets and members" are also in error.

Prophecy, even when calling a man from sin and darkness, instills faith, courage and hope to come back to God rather instills fear.
Fear is not of God, it's of the devil and any preacher who uses same is not of God either.

1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

One thing is certain from all these so called prophecies, it's not based on the Word of God.
PoliticsRe: Are Prophet Suleiman's Prophecies Coming To Pass? by frevangel(m): 2:52pm On Sep 20, 2013
Scun: You ignored the most obvious one, number 23. How did he get that right?
The demon inside the little girl in Acts of the Apostles that Paul rebuked spoke "truth" yet Paul rebuked the spirit in her and we are told it's a fortune telling demon.
Check the old testament and you will see it existed far back.
PoliticsRe: Are Prophet Suleiman's Prophecies Coming To Pass? by frevangel(m): 2:49pm On Sep 20, 2013
42. Omega Fire Ministries (OFM) will witness worldwide recognition that will shock everyone.
This got my attention.
I don't think a true minister/ministry would be seeking this.
You may as well sum up the purpose of the other prophecies. Seeking for recognition!

It's not so difficult to spot false prophets if you know the word of God.
By the way, prophecy is not synonymous with fortune telling and doom predictions.
Naustradamous would be a great prophet of God then.
PoliticsRe: Ameachi Denied Access To Govt House by frevangel(m): 9:58pm On Sep 12, 2013
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Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 5:51pm On Sep 12, 2013
deeptesting: My friend I have been to a church wouldn't want to mention name,I was invited by a friend who knew me very well as an Atheist, I honored his invitation and did you know when all that stuff you mentioned didn't work on me the officiating pastor and another pastor from Ghana termed me a witch...Come and see prayers that almost brought the roof of the building down,that was my greatest fear before they will term the fall of the roof on our heads as "spiritual stuff" like you mentioned.. It is so funny how you guys fall for all these craps.
I apologize for that as it is a false doctrine itself.
I recommend you pick up a bible, say a simple prayer like "God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. God and Father of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. I do not know or believe in you but I ask that you reveal yourself to me I pray".
Say this daily and begin reading the Bible from Genesis even if it's 10mins a day.
It may be hard but I beg of you to try it.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 5:44pm On Sep 12, 2013
The reason MANY BELIEVERS will be deceived in the last days is the fact that they have no foundation in the word.
Many have their foundation in religion, denomination, works, philosophies, self, experiences, pastors and their messages, leaders of their church etc.
The bible is our only foundation and anything other than the scriptures will crumble.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 5:36pm On Sep 12, 2013
chuqudy: Em well, people fail to understand that Pope Francis is a Jesuit. Let me help you guys. Jesuits don't see money as we see it. They see money as exactly what it is--a paper. They dont know what is gold. Gold is just a stone. Your costly cars, houses, etc makes no meaning to them. Once you can see a means of transport, a place to lay your head, something to eat and be healthy, you should be okay. I heard of a Jesuit priest that carried a masqurade to a church. He said that people fear masqurade and associate it with satan but according to him, masqurade is nothing but a carved wood worn by a mere human beign. I also heard of a Catholic bishop who refused to welcome a visiting Jesuit priest to his diocese because he(bishop) sees Jesuits as strange people. Jesuits don't see life as any ordinary person sees life. They understand life exactly the way it is. According to a book written by a Jesuit, "we don't need a TV to be alive, not a car, nor house, nor money etc. Afterall our ancestors lived happily without those things. All your fame, your money, your power, etc are non existent things. Nothing has the power to make you sad or even happy." The book went further to say that "if you are happy when people say good things about you, you should also be prepared to be sad when they say bad things about you." The book also said that "if one says 'without God I cannot be happy', then that "God" the person is talking about is a product of the persons imagination and does not exist". God has given you everything that can make you happy. People are sad because they have made themselves slaves to some persons, material things and their imaginations"

Jesuits have made me to understand life exactly as it is. Nothing can make me sad nor happy. My happiness should not be dependent on any thing. I just have to be happy whether good or bad because everything is vanity. Jesus once asked a question. Who is better among the two servants, one agreed to go for a message but later did not go and the other refused to go for the message but later went?

It was the one that finally did what the master wanted. Many people expect the Pope to say only a Christian would go to heaven where Jesus himself is not even a christian. Abraham, Moses, Elijah, David, Solomon etc were not christians. Jesus said repent or perish and not become a Jehovah witness and co.

iF YOU DO GOOD, kINGDOM IS WAITING FOR YOU. BUT IF YOU ARE A "BORN AGAIN" AND SPEAKS IN "1MILLION TONGUES" AND FALL UNDER ANOINTING BUT WITHOUT LOVE( God is love), NO KINGDOM OF GOD IS WAITING FOR YOU.
Jesus will deny you on the last day if you opress the poor and the less priviledge. He will deny you even if you are a pastor, priest, pope, imam, general overseer, bishop etc if you neglect the poor. The wicked will ask Jesus "when did we see you hungry and did not give you food. When did we see you in prison but did not visit you etc" You know the answer.

If our so called "good and true christians" can do just what Christ wants, there would be no ASUU strike. The president and many of our politicians are "born again" and recieves blessings and prayers from many "men of God" and yet our country is confused. USA is made up of many atheists and yet things are better and the less priviledged are cared for. What an irony.
Be not deceived, good works is not a sign of being with Christ.
However, all those who are born again MUST live the true life of Christ which includes being good, moral, committed to God and His word not opinions of the world.

2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 5:24pm On Sep 12, 2013
mars123: God loves me for sure,but you pastors,preachers that lack raw basic knowledge always piss me off...pray for yourself most.
Look not to pastors and preachers, look to the bible. If I have preached any other thing that's not revealed in the bible please discard but if all Isaid I drew you to the bible, check for yourself.

I leave you with this "what will you do with the access to the bible you have?"
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 5:16pm On Sep 12, 2013
tsmith: i laugh in Greece!!!

So what makes you better than me? Using every yardstick possible:

Heavenly - I'm rest assured I'd make heaven ahead of you!!!
Spiritually - i bet you still run to pastor to bless you, your child, work and for prayers. I pray myself to God and I get answers
Earthly - I also bet many things you are yet to dream of or attempt, I already have, because i believe! Prescence; secured. Future secured! Nepa sef, secured! And you are here saying someone is in darkness? abeg, go top up your 'i better pass my neighbour' with petrol
There is nothing in my post to suggest I said I was better than you especially in earthly things. Why would I do that? I don't know you and it's against the scriptures, see below.
I BEG of you, it has nothing to do with me but that you believe in Jesus Christ the only Saviour.

Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast

2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous,boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy

Jas 4:16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 5:16pm On Sep 12, 2013
tsmith: i laugh in Greece!!!

So what makes you better than me? Using every yardstick possible:

Heavenly - I'm rest assured I'd make heaven ahead of you!!!
Spiritually - i bet you still run to pastor to bless you, your child, work and for prayers. I pray myself to God and I get answers
Earthly - I also bet many things you are yet to dream of or attempt, I already have, because i believe! Prescence; secured. Future secured! Nepa sef, secured! And you are here saying someone is in darkness? abeg, go top up your 'i better pass my neighbour' with petrol
There is nothing in my post to suggest I said I was better than you especially in earthly things. Why would I do that? I don't know you and it's against the scriptures, see below.
I BEG of you, it has nothing to do with me but that you believe in Jesus Christ the only Saviour.

Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast

2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous,boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy

Jas 4:16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 4:57pm On Sep 12, 2013
mars123: and you with all the bible passages in your head have been confused my friend!and its obvious...who even told your sorry self that I don't have jesus in me?
This is not a fight really. It is a choice, I'm only calling you to salvation. God loves you and I love you too.
I pray for you.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 4:54pm On Sep 12, 2013
tsmith: Yes, I support him.

Call me a radical Christian, but my experiences in life have shaped me and my belief. I believe in God, because I have personally experienced in and have a 1 on 1 relationship with him. I believe in Jesus Christ & the bible (to some extent) because that these have been indoctrinated into me and fed my belief. But I do not believe Christianity is the only way to God.
At this point it is safe to say you are not saved and in darkness. Worse still you have been deceived.
Receive Jesus Christ as Lord and accept remission of sins. I say this out of a genuine concern for you.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 4:41pm On Sep 12, 2013
flying dutchman: The pope is angling for a united global church/religion that doesn't require homosexuals to repent, and accepts unbelievers- does anyone know where I'm headed? These things were predicted in the bible ages ago! Jesus is coming...
Signs of the end time and the unveiling of the anti-christ
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 4:40pm On Sep 12, 2013
mars123: God is good,good is God...everything good is of God!good muslims and traditionalists will go to heaven.the good samaritan was just a GOOD man!christians sin and pray for forgiveness but atheits that sin,pray to no-one and hence will go to hell but atheits with a good conscience who can't do or cause harm but loves their neighbours as themselves,will be accepted by me,if I was God!christian in todays reality is just a WORD.the pope is not far from the truth cus no-one is perfect!he has a very forgiving heart...so,I'm proud to be catholic/christian.
Notice how your post has no scripture foundation but human philosophy?
You have been deceived my friend, receive Jesus and be saved.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 4:23pm On Sep 12, 2013
woodcook: I am not an expert in religious matter but for those who claimed to be, please are you guys saying that someone who believe in God but does evil will go to heaven in place of an atheist that have a conscience and had no cause to wrong his fellow human?

Until someone comes up with the right answer to my question, then we can have a discussion on the pope's position, other than that I guess we should all go back to our lives and try to be better people.
All believers who live in sin will go to hell too. Those who do not believe will go to hell as well irrespective of their good works. Ever heard of the scripture that the righteousness of Man is as a filty rag before God?
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 4:19pm On Sep 12, 2013
Atigba: you are trying to tell me that christianity is the best religion..go and read your bible there is nothing like christianity or catholism..all these institutions where setup by men...salvation is for the jews nt christians
You totally missed me. There is nothing like Christianity really. It was a coined word to describe the followers of Jesus Christ back then.
Being born again is a different experience all together. It is not joining a religion, it is accepting Jesus Christ as the Son of God, receiving remission of sins, and living like Jesus Christ commanded hoping for His second coming.
It is the living like Jesus Christ that was called Christianity by non believers in the new testament age really.
The biblical word for believers is THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 4:12pm On Sep 12, 2013
Atigba: salvation is the jews nt for christian
Matthew 28: 18  And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: note 20  Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


John 3:16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Acts 2:39  For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Act 20:21 Testifying both to theJews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faithtoward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christis all, and in all. 

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 3:48pm On Sep 12, 2013
omotayokay: They believe in God, they believe in Jesus....so why would they go to hell?
They do not believe that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah. That's the only guarantee for salvation.
To take it further, the God of Jesus Christ is not the same god of Muslims.
All@h is the moon god. Jehovah Yahweh is the Almighty God.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 3:45pm On Sep 12, 2013
Atigba: The bible verses you just quoted was put there by the same catholic church...go and read the church history what you believe today is what they made you to believe you can tell me you know no more than the pope.
You are partly correct. Where you missed it is that God always has people who will not bow to any other God in every generation.

The part you got right is that Catholicism was formed to kill true Christianity, but it failed.
You cannot beat God!
A lot of the teachings in main stream Christianity today came from Catholicism and they are false.
But if you study the bible (You are wrong when you say the Catholic put those verses there) you will know the truth.
You remember how Protestants rose against the Catholic Church? it was because of the false teachings they brought in.

Your mindset is the exact mindset of one that fell for the deceit of Catholicism. The Teaching that the pope knows better.
Any man who is born again and has the Spirit of God in him can understand the scriptures himself and needs no pope or pastor to teach him actually.

1 John 2: 27  But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

John 14:26  But the Comforter, which isthe Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Rom 8:14 For as many as are ledby the Spirit of God, they are thesons of God

1Co 2:10 But God hath revealedthem unto us by his Spirit: for theSpirit searcheth all things, yea,the deep things of God
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 3:38pm On Sep 12, 2013
danot1030: 1.POPE IS NT A BELIVER IN GOD. 2.POPE DOES NT KNW D BIBLE NOR WAS HE SPEAKIN D BIBL 3.POPE IS NT PROPAGATN CHRIST BT SEEKIN SELF RECOGNITN. 4.POPE IS NT A XTIAN BT AN ANTIXRIST. 5.HE DOES NT KNW GOD SO HE CANT SPEAK 4 GOD. 6.POPE IS NT GOIN 2 HEAVEN.
Well said. Thank you.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 3:37pm On Sep 12, 2013
Mr Aboki: What is this one talking about sef!?
It is self explanatory to the man who has the Holy Spirit of God in him. One who has accepted the Lordship of Jesus Christ. One who is born again.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 3:32pm On Sep 12, 2013
m.k.o2005:
Well the pope has spoken but i thank God i don't follow the pope but Jesus !
See below words of the master Jesus HIMSELF:

"You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins."


—John 8:23,24

"He who rejects me rejects him who sent me."

—Luke 10:16

"Whoever believes in him (Jesus) is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. This is the verdict: light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light."

—John 3:18-21

"I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?"

—John 11:25,26
"I am the way and the truth and the life. No-one comes to the Father except through me. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well."

—John 14:6

"The Father judges no-one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, that all may honour the Son just as they honour the Father. He who does not honour the Son does not honour the Father, who sent him. I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life. I tell you the truth, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself. And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man. Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice."

—John 5:21-28

Concerning conscience,the bible said for those who never heard about Jesus or HIS father before their death had conscience given to them and would be judged based on that BUT NOT FOR UNBELIEVERS WHO HEARD JESUS BUT FAILED TO BELIVE IN HIM AND HIS WORDS.-Hell things folks ! See below for urself :
John 8:23-24''But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”

God help us
Thank you and God bless you.

Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is noneother name under heaven givenamong men, whereby we must be saved
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 3:25pm On Sep 12, 2013
danny301: This pope needs to be taught the way of salvation, enrolled in a foundation class and taught the fundamental issues of Christianity and the bible. For now he has no business preaching the bible because he is doing more harm than good to the the church of Jesus Christ and the kingdom of heaven.
You are right but missing something.
Catholicism is not a part of the Church of Jesus Christ.
It is a deception and many pentecostal circles have followed the same path.
These are the last days and many will be deceived!
The Church of Jesus Christ is made up of ONLY born again believers. If you do not believe that Jesus is the Christ and there's no other name by which you must be saved, you are not saved.
Salvation is in Jesus Christ and can be received by the help of the Holy Spirit of God, Yaweh!
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 3:17pm On Sep 12, 2013
I am not surprised per Se as I have never accepted Catholicism as Christianity.
It has always been a cult, just like many mega pentecostal churches today.
The worship of the pope and the idolatry of worship of the image of St. Miramis in the guise of virgin Mary.
There is no much difference between Catholicism and Islam.
Salvation is in Jesus ONLY. Not in a religion or any person, Muhammed, Buddha, Mary, Pope, etc.
You CANNOT EVEN COME TO GOD EXCEPT THROUGH JESUS.
It is NOT ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THERE IS A GOD, YOU MUST BELIEVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST TO BE SAVED.

James 2: 19  You believe that there is one God. That’s fine! Even the demons believe that and tremble with fear.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 3:03pm On Sep 12, 2013
John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 

John 14:16
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Psalm 14:1 
To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hathsaid in his heart, There is no God.


Only one who is not a believer himself can say what the pope said or agree with him.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 2:53pm On Sep 12, 2013
John 3:14-18 GNT

As Moses lifted up the bronze snake on a pole in the desert, in the same way the Son of Man must be lifted up, so that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life. For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not die but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to be its judge, but to be its savior. Those who believe in the Son are not judged; but those who do not believe have already been judged, because they have not believed in God's only Son.

The pope is setting the foundation ready for the revealing of anti-christ.
You are seeing the unveiling of the One World Religion.

The most common scripture of the Bible shows the pope is not with God. John 3:16 above

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Christianity EtcRe: Pope Francis To Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God To Go To Heaven by frevangel(m): 2:51pm On Sep 12, 2013
John 3:14-18 GNT

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You are seeing the unveiling of the One World Religion.

The most common scripture of the Bible shows the pope is not with God:

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