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Courz:
Gbam. In their conventions when talking about University Education, they will quote Bible verses that have absolutely nothing to do with University Education then twist the verses to make it mean what they want. Ask Fornicator Aemmyjah and Islamist Mad MaxinDhouse if there is one single Bible verse about University Education. They have forgotten that some disciples of Jesus were educated and Jesus never told them to forfeit education to be his disciple. Everything you see in this JW Cult is nothing but manipulation. Control. Period. Every single JW I know is against this doctrine from their GB about University Education but they can't speak out because they are in a Cult! They are Prisoners. Prisoners in their own homes for that matter.

I know of one Congregation coordinator who was hiding the fact that his daughter is in the University. Why is he hiding it from his fellow JWS? Because he knows that bad belle JWs will go and report him to the Circuit Overseer to drop him from his position. Just look at the useless lives JWs are living. Life of fear. Fear and trembling. No freedom because they have allowed a bunch of Freemasons into their lives.

Quite pathetic. Very pathetic. It makes me feel really heavy. These GBs are very wicked men, and people like Aemmyjah, Cornelboy, Janosky, Michael547 and Maxindhouse have submitted their entire reasonings to be corrupted and controlled by these wicked men.

See how Aemmyjah first presented his case as though he had the full backing of his cult to attend the university. Why do they thrive on deception?

Courz:
Hahahahahahahaha. At the bolded, Fornicator Aemmyjah is nothing but an Idiot. He will never forfeit his education. To show his hypocrisy, he will never try it because he knows the way his life will advance from Bad to worse. In almost every JW Convention, they are always giving talks about University Education, about how JWs should instead learn a skill they can use to come and work for Watchtower for free. They say people going for University Education are depending on the things of the world. Then they will interview some JW youths on stage who will come with very useless testimonies of how they forfeited scholarship or University and now do what they call pioneering. They do this to sway JWS to discourage them from University.

FxMasterz, the real reason they kick against University is because: in order to control people, you must make them as illiterate as possible because such people are easy to manipulate. Anything you tell them, they will take. University education equips you with Critical thinking skills that will help you to survive. Watchtower doesn't want that. They want JWs as dependent on them as possible and they believe anything that is stupid to a normal human, they will take It without questioning.

At the bolded, I guessed as much. There's no sane reason for anyone to discourage university education other than using such discouragement as a tool for control.

MaxInDHouse:
It's technical school students that's producing telephones not university degrees!

I'm asking you where those students' teachers learnt it from?

MaxInDHouse:
Faith in God according to scriptures or in Christ as taught by Jesus' disciples?

Our obedience is to the Lord Jesus alone. We obey Christian leaders, not blindly. Only when they're in alignment with Christ.

Paul said "Be ye followers of me as I am of Christ Jesus." 1 Cor. 11:1.

The principle was put into consideration in that book of Acts. That's why we're told they were obedient to the FAITH. Not to some men.

Aemmyjah:
Anyone with half brain knows all over on NL that Courz is a liar and a manipulator. He even modifies people's comments... Tomorrow he will say we don't eat food and you'll believe it
Continue allowing a liar to sneeze onto your brain


Everyone on NL that is familiar with Courz knows he's a malicious liar and has never dropped anything positive on NL
he's a fool and you too are showing folly by believing his 'did you know that's without investigating for yourself
If someone says that do you know your wife was a public slut, you'll believe it
Mumu

I'm sure Courz would prove it beyond reasonable doubt. He has presented proofs for everything he said here, so I have cause to believe him because of his track records. While you on the other hand have attempted to deceive me several times by manipulating my words and even the Bible. You have even subtly presented epic to me as epi just to prove a false point.

Now that you're regretting your decision to attend a university, I hope you'll cancel your NYSC and shun any invitation to go collect your degree certificate from your school. You lying hypocrite!

Courz:
This is even small. Do you know that back then when their former President of Watchtower Rutherford was ruling, he banned secondary school education? How did I know? I had a Late Uncle that left the Cult when this was going on. Their old publications reveal this. Rutherford said Jehovah's Witnesses must choose the Cult or Secondary school education. Guess what happened? Many Jehovah's Witnesses choose Secondary school and told Rutherford to go to Hell! No be today this Cult dey suffer mass decline in membership. E don Tay.

When Rutherford saw that decline in membership means low income for himself and his Business Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, he was forced to retract the ban.

This is more serious than I thought. Maxindhouse, can you see that you're being deceived?

The bolded caught my attention. You mean the leaders of the JW actually rule over them?

Courz:
Good question. He is going against the order of his Governing body attending University. Are you aware that JW Elders and Ministerial servants who are the people having positions in JW are removed from their positions if they attend University or if their Children attend the University? When I was a JW, my father was removed from his position as an Elder because my younger brother was in Law School. Ask Fornicator Aemmyjah and Islamist Mad MaxinDhouse why their Governing body would send Circuit Overseers to different congregations to remove Elders like this.

What message are they passing across to JWs? The message is they discourage University education. Don't allow these jW miscreants to Deceive and lie to you with twisting of words. They are against University Education! They are the Boko Haram of Christianity.

Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!

Aemmyjah!!!

You liar!!!

Aemmyjah:
We strongly encourage our children or wards to pursue careers in God's service over secular careers in the name of making a name in this world. In line with Matthew 6:33, they keep seeking first the kingdom by such choice. But the choice of which pathway they will choose is theirs. They are strongly encouraged to learn vocational skills that will help them become useful to themselves and their families
Earning a degree is almost useless in these days

If earning a degree is almost useless. Why did you go to the university to earn such a useless thing?

Aemmyjah:
Show us from our own publication or our website (not an apostate site) where we condemn university education

Do you discourage university education? Yes or no?

MaxInDHouse:
From China!

Lol.

So, China has no university?

Jozzy4:
For the records, there are many youths amoung Jehovah's witnesses in African and Europe ,others that have University Education or are currently enrolled in one, without any opposition from anyone. Nevertheless I won't totally dismiss your curiousity, because there have been Few Cases where some individual get treated differently because they choose to pursue a degree.

Thanks for bringing the bolded to the fore.

This is exactly why we're telling them that their GBs are wrong

MaxInDHouse:
Note the highlighted!

Scribes became OBEDIENT to the teachings of the Apostles and Older men in Christianity who never attended their theology schools.

So if they became OBEDIENT to Jesus' disciples who never attended their Rabbinic schools of what benefit is their knowledge?

Why do you like twisting Scriptures like this? What's wrong with you Maxindhouse? Aren't you ashamed?

The verse says they were obedient to the FAITH. Not to the apostles or disciples. To the FAITH please.

Jozzy4:
Due to the negative vices on Campus, immorality, cultism , drugs and other related things, Someone might warn another of the dangers, But Nothing in the Bible discourage University Education. It's a choice

That's the point.

Warn them. Not discourage.

MaxInDHouse:
Scribes were Jewish THEOLOGIANS so if Jesus never appointed any of them as apostle that shows their knowledge is worthless in God's kingdom! Act 4:13

Wrong!

Are you saying that the Scribes cannot come into the kingdom?

Do you know that many priests and Scribes actually came into the kingdom?

NB: The kingdom is not your kingdom halls which are all synagogues of Satan.

"And the word of God continued to increase, and the number of the disciples multiplied greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests became obedient to the faith." Acts 6:7

MaxInDHouse:
So it's universities that made this possible shey?

Ọmọ go to China it's students who learned all these things at technical schools that's making it not university degrees!

Where did the said technical schools and their owners get the knowledge from?

MaxInDHouse:
OK so get it straight that God's organization is not condemning higher education but as active and dedicated servants of God with duty under the control of God's only begotten Son we DISCOURAGE time and effort wasted in pursuing what is of no real benefit neither add up to what we are pursuing: God's Kingdom! Matthew 6:33-34

Mathew 13:12

"Then He said to them, “Therefore every scribe instructed concerning the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out of his treasure things new and old.”

What do you understand by the above statement made by the Lord Jesus Himself.

A scribe was an highly educated fellow in the days when Jesus walked this earth in Jerusalem.

Jesus said, if such an highly educated fellow is instructed into the kingdom of God, he is able to draw fresh and old treasures for the benefit of others.

The high IQ that follows sound education is not to be discountenanced. It's useful also for the kingdom of God. Just look at Paul.

MaxInDHouse:
How many problems have the world been able to solve or are the universities not enough?

Even the phone you're using to type the question and the site you're using to post the question are solutions to some communication problems.

MaxInDHouse:
Obviously you hate the truth but let me poke your bubble of deception.

How many houses do a couple NEED?
Answer: ONE
How many clothes do you need per outing?
Answer: ONE
How many dishes do you need at a moment?
Answer: ONE

But most people keeps storing up treasures as if their existence depends on what they're able to accumulate {Matthew 6:19-21} this greedy attitude is why billions finds it extremely hard to feed, clothe themselves or have a place to call their own home and it's the same reason why some carry arms to take these things by force from those accumulating it with greed and sometimes killing them! Luke 12:16-21

But if everyone is OK with the NEEDS and not WANTS i'm sure by now Nigeria will be like Paradise for all citizens because we have more than enough in this country!

My dear that's not what we're even discussing. Take your childish arguments away from me. I've already shown you how the basic needs attract other needs. Go and rest with that.

What I'm here to tell you is that we go to the university to learn how to solve problems and not to learn how to be smart.

MaxInDHouse:
Surely you only argue blindly!

So how does the word DISCOURAGE and CONDEMN mean the same?

Please try to go back and study ENGLISH just to know how to use words appropriately because i can discourage my child from doing something that doesn't mean i condemned that thing!

Are desperately looking for something to argue about or what?

What is the meaning of this stray mention you made after I said my use of the word 'condemn' was an oversight.

Or you don't know what 'oversight' means? Go check a dictionary.

MaxInDHouse:
NO!
NEEDS are just three things:
FOOD
CLOTHING and
SHELTER

So whether in the time of Adam or Noah or Elijah or Jesus or Today human NEEDS remain the same FOOD CLOTHING and SHELTER it's our WANTS that's unlimited/numerous!

Why do you have the habit of occasionally cutting off my mentions and quoting only one part as though that's the only thing I said?

Why are you so mischievous?

Now, back up your myopic declaration by countering what I said in my previous mention as copied below:

Are needs not truly numerous?

I just don't want to argue with you because your understanding of the matter is still very kindergarten.

(For example, when you need shelter, do you put your shelter inside bush? You need someone to clear the bush. Do you build your shelter with saliva? Someone makes the blocks and another builds with it. Someone made the roofing sheet and another fixes your roof. You need roads leading to your house. Someone made the roads and another produces the machines that make the roads conducive for you. We are yet to talk about vehicles that make movements easy for you as well as those who have to learn to produce those vehicles. Or do you want to trek from your house to London if you have to visit London? The list goes on for food production too. It takes a process and the process needs knowledgeable people. We've not talked about the clothing, the makers of it and those who build the machines that help make the clothes. We've not talked about the lightening of your house. The makers of the bulbs that you keep buying. The makers of the machines that produce those bulbs and all the humans who have to learn how to do all those things and supply electricity to your shelter. Should we talk about the water supply to your house too and the resources that make water available for your use?)

We can go on and on and on like that. The 3 three basic needs are composite needs that create other needs which MUST also be met. People have to learn how to meet these needs and solve those problems. We go to the university basically for this reason.

Aemmyjah:
Show us where we condemn university education

I have been using the word 'Discouraged' and I think that's the right word. My recent use of the word 'condemn is an oversight. Courz and Achorladey know better than me in these things and can provide more clarifications.

To the best of my knowledge, JW has been discouraging its members from attending university.

Now, answer all my 3 questions.

Aemmyjah:
I'm awaiting NYSC next month
I'm not disfellowshipped

Your love of ignorance is supra

Yeah, I hate ignorance and that's why I asked "won't you be disfellowshipped?" Your arrogance knows no bound.

The second question I'll like to ask is "Are the members of your GB aware you're attending Uni?" The third question is "Did you attend Uni after you joined the JW cult or before?"

MaxInDHouse:
Guy it's better to admit you err because you also claim NEEDS are NUMEROUS showing that you're talking about lacking satisfaction whereas NEEDS are just three things:
FOOD
CLOTHING and
SHELTER!

Are needs not truly numerous?

I just don't want to argue with you because your understanding of the matter is still very kindergarten.

For example, when you need shelter, do you put your shelter inside bush? You need someone to clear the bush. Do you build your shelter with saliva? Someone makes the blocks and another builds with it. Someone made the roofing sheet and another fixes your roof. You need roads leading to your house. Someone made the roads and another produces the machines that make the roads conducive for you. We are yet to talk about vehicles that make movements easy for you as well as those who have to learn to produce those vehicles. Or do you want to trek from your house to London if you have to visit London? The list goes on for food production too. It takes a process and the process needs knowledgeable people. We've not talked about the clothing, the makers of it and those who build the machines that help make the clothes. We've not talked about the lightening of your house. The makers of the bulbs that you keep buying. The makers of the machines that produce those bulbs and all the humans who have to learn how to do all those things and supply electricity to your shelter. Should we talk about the water supply to your house too and the resources that make water available for your use?

We can go on and on and on like that. The 3 three basic needs are composite needs that create other needs which MUST also be met. People have to learn how to meet these needs and solve those problems. We go to the university basically for this reason.

Aemmyjah:
You say University education is not mandatory but you're pointing accusing fingers on us saying we condemn it. Don't you know that condemn is a strong word and anyone doing something we condemn will likely be removed?

Of course.

If you start attending a university today, won't you be disfellowshipped?

Aemmyjah:
Like I said

Mark quoted Jesus words about David quoting from the account of Abiathar the Chief Priest who was a companion of David and the only surviving eyewitness of the account before he the elimination of the priests by Saul...


You'll rather discredit the Bible account as an error

I further credit the Bible by establishing that God uses imperfect humans.

You discredit the Bible by applying a fraudulent hermeneutical solution which imported the word 'account' from nowhere into the story by equating epi with epic. You can't tell lies and say you're crediting the Bible. God Himself would regret those lies.

The Bible is the Word of God. Not the Words of God. Let the whole world understand that and stop unnecessary criticism.

They should criticize the Quran instead since they said it fell from heaven. Even the Bible never laid claim to the perfection of its writers. That's why it says "We know in part. When the perfect comes, the imperfect would be done away with." 1 Cor. 13:9.

I don't go by popular opinion. I try to understand the Bible for myself rather than go by the ideologies delivered to us by the Roman Catholics.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ the word NUMEROUS or INSATIABLE shouldn't be used for human NEEDS as babies and old people are also humans yet they are SATISFIED with FOOD CLOTHING and SHELTER.
It's GREED that gives birth to insatiability and it's not all humans that are greedy!

Do you know what you're saying at all?

Insatiable means, continuous demand for something. You can't have food enough to the extent that you would never eat again. You'll continue to need food without an end in sight until the day you leave the earth. Continuous demands for those needs. That's what insatiability is all about.

Moreover, that's not the point we're discussing. I'm telling you the problem we go to the university to solve. Your attempt to derail the discussion is unsuccessful.

So, now, answer my question. Have you reached a state where you would no longer eat food, wear cloths or dwell in a house? As long as you continue to demand the solutions these problems, you'll always need someone who has learnt to solve these problems.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy admit that you're wrong now at least show some level of civility. You can't represent faith in God yet arguing blindly.

NEEDS are limited so any rich human can make it happen by providing FOOD, CLOTHING and SHELTER for many but WANTS is the problem of mankind because humans are never satisfied.

Why not be honest with yourself and admit that I never said needs are unlimited?

One of the points I made is that needs are insatiable. I have asked you if you do not NEED food, clothing and shelter anymore. Rather than answer the question, you're dribbling.

MaxInDHouse:
That's what i'm telling you that it's WANTS that is numerous/unlimited as for NEED it's just those three things no matter how young or old you are those three are a must!

Those three things are still as insatiable as any other needs.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you really have the knowledge you claim?

The highlighted is wrong!

Human NEED is just three:
FOOD
CLOTHING
SHELTER

It's human WANTS that's unlimited Sir!

Have you now stopped needing food, clothing and shelter? Have you reached a point where you do not NEED to eat anymore? Where you do not NEED to wear clothes anymore? Where you do not NEED to dwell under a roof anymore? Answer my questions please.

Aemmyjah:
Coming from someone that attributes errors in the Bible

Coming from someone that couldn't prove why Mark mentioned Abiathar instead of Ahimelech. Someone who deceitfully has to choose a fraudulent hermeneutical solution to a plain statement instead of understanding that Mark knows in part and can therefore make errors like anyone else. Does the Bible not say "They're men of like passions with us " James 5:17. Do you know what that means? It means they're subject to the same weaknesses we have. They're not perfect humans. If everyone understands this, all the so called issues the carnal men have with the Bible would be laid to rest. The Bible didn't fall from heaven, it was written by men of like passions with us. God then breathed upon the imperfections to produce life for us who are in the spirit.

And how does this position of mine exonerate you from the delusions and fraud into which your life has been immersed?

Aemmyjah:
😂
Do you have a problem with that
Where do you see we condemn university education
What does it mean to condemn something

If it's not condemned, what do you then mean by 'Do you have a problem with that?' What exactly do you think I have a problem with?

Retracting your position and also contradicting your position within just few lines of writing. SMH.

MaxInDHouse:
So why is the world filled with problems?
Are you saying the universities aren't enough?

At least problem solving becomes easy among Jehovah's Witnesses as they keep managing the imperfection of members without resorting to weapons and WARS!

Warped thinking.

Have you read that human needs are numerous and insatiable?

When we are talking about problem solving, we mean human needs. When you need a car, that's a problem you need to solve. Someone solves the problem by producing numerous cars from which you can solve your car problem.

When you need a clothe or even food. Someone solves those problems by producing those things you need which you now buy to solve your problems.

If you don't understand the above fundamentals to have asked that immature question you asked above, it only shows how deeply messed up you are.