Caseless: The appeal court in the case of the house of assembly election in respect of the speaker and his opponent really embarrassed INEC. They told INEC to stop dancing naked. Such a useless organisation.
IfnobeGod20: My brother did the party that produced the card for him say it is fake? Who produced the membership register submitted for the case? If it was the membership register submitted to INEC before the primary, it is untenable, except the court request NNPP to make available or authenticate his membership. Payment of due to the party may not work because someone can join a party today and the same party sponsor him for an election the next day, as no law forbid recruitment of new members at any time and also sponsoring same people. All these back door approach is untenable by law. The only organ that can attest to membership status of any party's member is the party itself and not other interloper. And that was why I said, If they rely on the membership register submitted to INEC, that would be double standard. It was the same register that petitioners against LP candidates relied on and Appeal Court had punctured same.
It was only the EA that demanded for party register but she EA never made mentioned the reason for its submission. That aside, the constitution had made it abundantly clear the criteria for disqualification and qualification of candidates, anything outside constitutional provisions has k-leg and cannot be rely on. I reiterated, no where in the constitution that require party to submit membership register to prove membership status.
Oga,the constitution said in 177 c that one must be a party member and must be sponsored by them.the supreme court has stated that to prove non membership,party membership register is key and the best alongside others like oral witness from party and membership card which doesn't favour Kabir.the only witness that came Dr bichi only said Kabir is a member without any documentary or legal proof.it is settled law that mere assertion or allegations are not evidence or fact.wgere you not the one that queried why documents where rejected in nasarawa...? The proofs on ground clearly shows that Abba is not a member of nnpp legally sir. Like I said,according to the companies and allied matters act governs corporate bodies and membership register is the best form to decipher membership... Let me also remind you that this is not a criminal case.the proof required is based on preponderances or probabilities of evidence not proof beyond doubt.iy will be weighted on a scale.over 60% of evidences is against nnpp and that is enough.documentary evidence is against him while oral evidence from his party is in his favour.it is settled issue that when documentary and oral evidence are in confkict,documentary evidence will prevail.
The constitution clearly said forgery is disqualification but the court has stated that that forgery must be among the educational qualifications listed and must be proven beyond doubt.
IfnobeGod20: Yes, but on the cause of interpreting their documents, they should not be seen objecting to their own documents giving to any party concerned. It makes no sense at all. They just need to interpret and keep mute and not attacking party or it's representative.
When they are made as an adverse party,they have to attack the petitioners.they naturally must defend their elections
OGHENAOGIE: u should unmask ur APC sentiments before analysing... APC had majority in sokoto 2019 yet PDP produced speaker. Gorvenors are very influential. U can see fubara showing wike tins... It's only Lagos cos of many power brokers gorvenor no to get influence over others
apc had a slim majority in sokoto and Bauchi plus both pdp govs are politically smart and dexterous.i don't know for muftwang but the majority in plateau is total
seanfer: The Governor can not be impeached. Looking at the way Tinubu managed the Crises between Wike and Fubara, Akeredolu and his deputy. I don’t think the president will want any Governor to be impeached during his 1st term at least.
IfnobeGod20: Great one, I know you know more than him in law. Yinmu! It is right for a university to award you a certified certificate and still be the same that will go to court and reject the certificate? It makes no sense at all, only to a discerning mind. They are just making mockery of themselves as a supposed unbiased umpire. INEC evidence by law is sacrosanct and should be more reliable.
True but Inec has to interpret it and that inec evidence must be primary ex facie
The Court of Appeal sitting in Abuja on Friday, sacked 11 Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) lawmakers in the Plateau state assembly.
In a unanimous decision, the panel led by Justice Okon Abang, held that all the sacked lawmakers scored wasted votes at the time of the March 2023 general election because their party lacked structure.
He added that the PDP violated section 177 of the 1999 constitution, hence coypd not sponsor candidates in an election.
The court however declared all the second runners up in the March 18 elections as winners.
Those sacked are; Hon Timothy Dantong (Riyom), Hon. Rimyat Nanbol,- (Langtang North Central), Moses Sule (Mikang), Salome Waklek,-Pankshin, Hon. Bala Fwangji (Mangu South), Hon. Maren Ishaku (Bokkos), Hon. Dagogot (Quaanpan North) and Nannim Langyi,-(Langtang North North).
Others are Nimchak Rims (Langtang South) Hon. Danjuma Azi (Jos North West) Gwottson Fom (Jos South) and Hon. Abubakar Sani idris (Mangu North) respectively.
The All Progressives Congress is now the leading party in the parliament.
IfnobeGod20: This is what we've been saying. INEC documents presented to the court should be sacrosanct and not playing around with but it is funny that courts had allowed INEC to get away with the shame especially during the PEPT. How is it hearable that INEC will certify documents and still be the same body that will go to court to reject same. It's just a pure mockery. INEC is playing in the hands of politicians too much.
The judge who made the judgment is a novice in elector matters
IfnobeGod20: But the justice never say only membership register. There are other criteria to ascertain candidate membership and that is left to each party to ascertain.
True but the party failed to ascertain.party register does not contain Abba name,his membership card is fake,no record of dues payment,updated membership was filed very very late, nomination form was late...so where is the legal proof of membership? It is settled law that a party is an incorporated association and a legal person and the best way of proving membership is by the party register that is why the electoral act demands for it.section 177 c is meant to prevent independent candidacy. In gwede vs inec,the court said party nominations are internal affairs but parties cannot act arbitrarily.they must obey their laws and the constitution while fielding candidates... This case is just like nasarawa.if we go by the merit of it,both governor's should be out
Kukutenla: It held that the tribunal was statutorily empowered to accord probative value to the INEC documents which it said disclosed all information required to prove the alleged non-compliance.
garfield1 you can see what the appeal court is saying now that it will favour APC. It is no longer about dumping evidence on the tribunal. Suddenly, they remember the part of the law that empowers them to grant probative values to INEC documents. Why was this lacking in nasarawa
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Justice kenneth amadi is a junior judge with specialty in industrial and commercial law.he was of the national industrial court till his elevation to appeal court in 2021.cc fergie001
PRESIDENT TINUBU APPOINTS EIGHT NEW PERMANENT SECRETARIES
President Bola Tinubu has approved the appointment of eight new Permanent Secretaries in the Federal Civil Service following the recently concluded selection process by the Office of the Head of the Civil Service of the Federation:
(1) Ndakayo-Aishetu Gogo
(2) Adeoye Adeleye Ayodeji
(3) Rimi Nura Abba
(4) Bako Deborah Odoh
(5) Omachi Raymond Omenka
(6) Ahmed Dunoma Umar
(7) Watti Tinuke
( Ella Nicholas Agbo
President Tinubu anticipates that the new Permanent Secretaries, having emerged at the top of qualified candidates after a diligent assessment process, will deploy their expertise and competence in the effective execution of the Renewed Hope mandate to revitalize service delivery in all Federal Ministries, Departments, and Agencies in the superceding interest of the Nigerian people.
IfnobeGod20: My brother I don't argue blindly, I only argue on issues I have conviction on. I want you to go back to some of our discourse, I only argued with you on issue of membership register, FCT and Tinubu's academic records and in all I made it abundantly clear that membership register is never a prerequisite for disqualification of candidate and Appeal Court and Supreme Court had upturned all judgements of tribunal that sacked labour party because of that, even after you argued with all your bone marrow and I won you on that. On the issue of 25% in FCT, I made my bias known from day one that the argument of PDP and LP cannot fly, that they were just on wide goose, just the same way you claimed. We were even in that but I challenge you to bring out anywhere I gave life to 25% in FCT. On the issue of Tinubu's academic records, you can't say you won me on that because both Appeal Court and Supreme Court discountenance the prayer and called it preelection matter.
Please did you read what EA says at all, that evidence can be kept secret. There is nowhere in the EA where it says evidence must be accompany with witness and his address. This is the reason some people are saying courts nowadays are cash and carry courts because evidence has no time limit and can be presented to the court at any time by anybody. So far it is presented to the court and it mandatory for the court to peruse the evidence without any oral witness, as oral witness is just to give life to evidence presented but not mandatory by the new EA.
Please did you read what you wrote here at all. "It is therefore the political party concerned that can state, conclusively, that a person is its member as can be demonstrated by production of its membership register and other relevant documents, if the issue arises".
You forgot the last part that says membership can be demonstrated by its membership register? Has NNPP demonstrated that Abba Kabir is a member through it's register or membership card
The war is still on.i thought fubara surrendered by apologizing?
In any case,if you read emeka vs okadigbo 2012 supra,shinkafi vs yari 2016,tarzoor vs ortom 2016,gwede vs inec 2014,memakaya vs memakaya 2001,jummai vs isyaku 2016,the apex court dealt on the issues of primaries and nomination on one hand via the electoral act and also on membership and sponsorship via 177c.in the case of the former,they clearly said that primaries and nomination are internal to a party.but in the latter,they dealt directly on the substantive issue.they never said it was a pre election nor a party matter...
IfnobeGod20: My brother did you read what the EA says about tendering of evidence from the poster I posted. You're only confusing witness and address of witness to evidence of the case. Evidence of the case can be held in suspense by EA till when presented to the court. Read again and stop feign ignorance of the law. Know the difference and stop confusing witness, address and evidence together.
I want you to stop confusing yourself about someone challenge through either EA or constitution. The EA derived its root from the constitution. EA is just a mini constitution and that is why whatever is not captured in the constitution cannot be brought to EA. That was why I told you that time that not having your name in the membership register of a party wasn't a criteria for disqualification because criteria for disqualification had been spelt out in the constitution and hence anything written in the EA not in the constitution is dead on arrival, as constitution takes superiority. You've been brandishing that line since the Kano governorship judgement delivered but you're erroneously quoting that. Both EA and constitution are one and EA cannot safely stand alone because it derives its content from the constitution.
Oga,we had a worst argument at the pepc and I heavily and shamelessly defeated you.i rubbished you totally so based on that,I am superior to you in legal matters.again,the apex court has settled the issue of subpoenaed witnesses.i am not arguing with you as when witnesses or evidences can be tendered,the SC clearly says it must be indicated in the petition at the time of filing.when and how you present it doesn't matter as far as you do it during the hearing.
From the facts pleaded in the petition and evidence on record, it appears the complaint of non-qualification of 1st respondent is grounded on paragraph (c) of sub-section (1) of section 177 supra Below is an excerpt from justice okoro in tarzoor vs ortom 2016 A member of a political party is one who is registered with that party as its member, is issued with its membership card and fulfills all requirements of membership. It is therefore the political party concerned that can state, conclusively, that a person is its member as can be demonstrated by production of its membership register and other relevant documents, if the issue arises.
In buhari vs Obasanjo 2005,the SC also said membership registrar is not the only means of membership but the best. If you read tarzoor vs ortom,alhassan vs isyaku etc,the supreme court indirectly agreed that anyone can challenge section 177c
WorldRichest: 2031 is Shettima/Wike. Those who have eyes can see that already. Why idiots and nincompoops are crying over 2023 lost election, the god of Politics Emilokan Asiwaju Jagaban is already planning 2031 because 2027 has already been concluded, we will just organize a formality election.
3ice9ce: Your problem is that you are persistent in stupidity and I suspect that your brain also needs flashing.
G5 were just the few Governors openly identifying as rebels. We had other Pdp Governors who were rebels but didn't openly identify with the G5. Fintiri was against Atiku but he wasn't part of G5. He was for Tinubu and that was why Atiku didn't support him and supported Binani of APC instead. When INEC Rec wanted to muscle him out, Seyi Makinde of G5 flew to Yola and assured him of support. That was when Atiku's boys in PDP started crying online, asking what Seyi Makinde was going doing in Adamawa.
IfnobeGod20: My brother, evidence are not to be front loaded. They are to be kept secret based on the electoral Act. Judges can only reject witness not front loaded with their written address but every evidence presented are valid and immutable. No wonder the judges that sat of Obi/Atiku vs Tinubu only discountenance witnesses not front loaded but still went ahead to deal with substantive suit. Check the poster below from EA 2022 and get yourself informed because ignorance of issue is deadly. You're just grandstanding my brother. The issue of sponsorship and membership have already been dealt with extensively by the courts of the land, right from the lower court to the Supreme Court before now and virtually all courts judgements have made it abundantly clear that membership and sponsorship is party internal affairs and no other party can dabble into it. So far a party can say this person is a member of our party, who is that other party to say no, he is not your member, when the outside party is not the one recruiting member for they neither are they the one sponsoring their members for an election. That was why Supreme Court lampooned Atiku and PDP for trying to meddle on APC internal affairs when they took Shettima to court, same with Peter Obi. The court even called them interloper and busybody. To be frank, the issue of sponsorship and nomination is even preelection matter, just the same way Appeal Court and Supreme Court sanctioned that the academic qualification of Tinubu cannot be brought to tribunal because it is a preelection matter, that it supposed to have been taken to regular court within the window of 14 days of cause of action.
Oga,if you present a document outside the timeline,it is invalid.even if the judges consider the substantive suit and you win,you still lose as far as the evidences were rejected.documents must be given brought to life by oral witnesses who are the makers...
Atiku challenged the nomination of tinubu under the electoral act not under the constitution.nominstion is purely a pre election matter.but any matter in the constitution is both pre election and post election.there is no portion of the constitution that says only party members can question membership and sponsorship.the constitution supercedes any other thing.it clearly states that membership and sponsorship are part of qualification.this supercedes any other law
whippersnapper: sule scored 347,600 votes ombugadu scored 283,745 votes. Do you even know how many votes high neck wrote for gayam and chiroma. make you just they play
naijacalifornia: only governorship and presidency elections goes to Supreme Court. Senatorial and house representatives elections cases stop at the appeals courts