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Oya, over to the apologists/worshippers of the ultra-corrupt and hideously inept mediocrities leading us at the centre.

“This year’s budget was based on 79 dollars per barrel, that is about 2.4, 2.5 million barrels per day. Now, contrary to all the forecast, nothing is getting better. And it is sad that we are not doing enough to change things for the better, the challenge of government in any part of the world is to deal with the issues. If the economy is not doing well, you do certain things differently and recover.

According to him, “It is no more matter for debate, we are ten months into the new year and oil has performed very well, at about 105 to 110 dollars per barrel throughout 2013, which means that if we have budgetary provision of 79 dollars, we ought to have a surplus of about 30 per cent, which should be in the crude oil account. But rather than having this surplus, we are witnessing a situation where federal allocations no longer come as at when due, states can’t pay salary.

“In Edo State like the rest of our 36 states, part of our July allocation has not been paid. About a third of our August allocation has not been paid and nothing has been paid for September allocation. And it is the first time since 1999 that this thing has happened.”

Sagamite: Also what is the incentive to provide when the people in power can fly to countries that provide it like Sheppopotamus did at tax-payers expense.

As long as they (the looters) are comfortable, why should the ordinary man be? Worse still, why bother when the person citizens that are a majority worship them and kiss their arsse?

This is the worst part of things. I.e Nigerians themselves, as the downtrodden, glorifying and worshipping leaders who have a 10 airplane fleet and eat N1 billion worth of food per year while giving them next to nothing in return compared to their fellow leaders worldwide. Can it then not be argued that many Nigerians deserves all they get courtesy of the abject example of 'followers' and worshippers of mediocrity that they are?

Chartey: I'm sorry to disappoint you, but it is not your money. It is money of Turkish businessmen and they must take their big profits back to their country.

Indeed. You have called a spade a spade and I am not surprised many here are pretending not to see the obvious. Nigerians are only acting as if they do not get the point you make because no one wants to admit that, after all the noise, local minds still ain't capable of delivering local solutions. We all know Nations cannot develop adequately if local minds cannot provide solutions in areas it is well equipped to do such so you cannot expect Nigerians to honestly discuss something that highlights their own deficiency in this regard.

No one wants to confront the truth of how, In this day and age, and with Nigerians among the best medical professionals available anywhere, non-Nigerians now seem well-placed to corner the lucrative niche market, in Nigeria, offering exclusive medical treatment to the rich that reduces the need for 'health tourism'. Turkish money, Turkish Doctors and affiliated construction firm all working in synergy to , one way or the other, make a great deal of money which will be repatriated out of Nigeria. Fine to witness in 1960 but what is the excuse in 2013?

If this were an area we do not have competently competitive indigenous manpower then I understand but the truth is that this particular set of Turkish Doctors, and I mean no disrespect to them, may be only ordinarily competent and nowhere near talented as the many, many highly sought after top medical experts Nigeria has everywhere !!!!

Talent alone will not build a nation. The right attitude and 'calibration' matters greatly and even more so for underdeveloped nations. This is what is missing in my opinion.

solidhomes: Please pardon my ignorance but please answer the following questions:

1. What part of the original post showed that Obasanjo didn't have his son's number?
2. Did you read the part where Obasanjo was said to have commented that but his son is in Abuja? Does that show that at least he knows Gbenga's whereabout?
3. Considering Obasanjo's old age, do you think he could have just picked his phone to call his son to confirm if this son is dead?
4. How do you think Obasanjo would have felt if he had tried to call Gbenga at that time and network begins its issues?

Waiting your answers.

I thought this also. Nairalanders are always keen to give interpretations, however erroneous or ludicrous such is, that confirm their own personal conviction rather than what is upheld by the reportage. Even in the article we gain suggestion that OBJ went somewhere private to speak to his son through a phone call and confirmed his well-being. Yet one cannot mitigate for sentimental and superstitious Nigerians who are always keen to defy logic and what is clearly illustrated in black and white to deliver their own personalised and emotion-tainted views.

Holding the hands of his friend, Prof. Akin Mabogunje, they went straight into a room within the Library complex where they spent almost one hour.

Vanguard learnt that Obasanjo was relieved after speaking with Gbenga.

Codedrock: The first daughter of the late former governor of Ondo State Olusegun Agagu, Mrs Solape Hammond gave an interview to The Nation at the Agagu’s residence in Ibadan.
Mrs Hammond said No member of the family wanted the patriarchs to go into politics but it was difficult to stop her father since he had a passion for the well being of his people.
She said her father never sought publicity, his activities brought him into limelight, particularly his geological surveys as a lecturer in the University of Ibadan.

Dear Mrs.Hammond, first and foremost, condolences for your loss. Yours is the memory of a child who clearly loved her father. That is how it should be. Yet, I wager that Ondo folks would beg to differ, perhaps vehemently so, that your father was an administrator who "had a passion for the well being of his people".

ifebosco: nigerians in the diaporan only know how to criticize without solution

Touche

taharqa: @Gbawe, [size=17]SHUT UP[/size]

Take your own advice. You never have anything sensible to contribute here and will suffer a heart attack one of these days due to your rabid 'barking'. Hopefully, for all the uncouth noise you make on his behalf, GEJ will pay for you to receive Turkish "world class" treatment at the hospital under discussion here. Mumu.

tednfs: I agree with your points except one - the Nigerian specialist abroad remark. Many nigerian doctors have come back home to establish but have always been frustrated and ended up simply running specialist hospitals. You should recall that anything foreign is viewed as superior in Nigeria, so even if you have a Trained Nigerian coming from abroad vs A Trained XYZ, it will be harder for the Nigerian to establish. This is fact, and a sad one.

I agree somewhat with your point which is entirely valid and perhap contributory. Yet I don't think this is the entire reason why we do not see Nigerian healthcare experts, especially those based in the diaspora, getting involved as they should be.

I think many do not challenge themselves and do not wish to face the risk and "hassle" associated with operating in Nigeria and Africa. Fair play to them since the motivation may just not be there to take on challenges if they have a very lucrative and worthwhile 'gig' abroad. A Nigerian GP in the UK may not want to risk earnings of up to £300,000.00 or more to start and operate a really audacious model of top-level healthcare in Nigeria.

Nonetheless, I would still expect enough Nigerian "outside the box" thinkers to exist who will know that, despite the challenges, vast profit exists to be made in Nigeria via servicing the no-brainer niche market of catering to the health of the rich. When many get involved, it is often as retirees coming back to manage a small clinic.

The trend is the same throughout West Africa so it is not just a Nigerian issue. Nigerian/African healthcare professionals, from my observation, follow a trend of giving their youth, vigour and innovative years to the West (of course for considerable financial reward) only to then retire back in Nigeria for a laid back 'easy life' usually anchored upon running something small and not too challenging.

taharqa: Leave that HYPOCRITE, joor. No sane person takes him seriously any more here. We are just always amused by his long epistles and nice English sha..

If you want to wallow in uncouthness, illiteracy and small-mindedness then be my guest. Who typifies backwardness and the sad reality of what has happened here if not your agbero self?

The Turks are in your country doing what Nigerians should be doing and positioning themselves to make a fortune , much of which will be repatriated to their Country, from your rich folks while a badly brought-up gutter mouth like you is insulting others rather than reflecting on that development.

Take a look in the mirror to see the small-minded apologist and worshipper of mediocrity holding Nigeria back. Anyway, I understand your childish rudeness. I have, once again, frustrated your effort to fraudulently steal achievements for GEJ and that stings badly.

HOTWATER: GEJ you have suffered . it is a trukish hospital that flew in from skies and started building in Abuja without government input . When it is good , it most be someone else and when is bad it most be GEJ . kpele my dear president

Bruv, nothing against GEJ here because he has done nothing wrong. The point is that people should not 'steal' achievements for him. I have a keen interest in business format/modelling and its continuous evolution and transformation. This is a business model set to grow more popular throughout the world, especially Africa, because of globalisation and the 'liberalisation' of the world for the rich and elite class. The same Britain that wants to charge Nigerians a £3,000 visa bond is the same Country ready to give a Nigerian a British passport if he can bring enough cash to sink into the UK.

The increasingly 'open door' policy of many Countries , regarding certain consideration, will see more international transfer of service delivery previously thought the domain of domestic/local manpower. It is not medical care alone. It could also apply to education, construction, hospitality et al.

What I absolutely detest is the reality of how a Nigerian consortium could not pull this off. The niche market to suit their specialist skills and expertise is already there in their own Country !!! . We all know Nigeria has a stupendously large number of super-rich in Abuja. Why could local minds, even if domiciled or based abroad, not have come up with this? It is not Rocket science at all. We sit here shouting we are as good as anyone and can solve our own problem so it would be good for issues like this to illustrate that. The number of Nigerians who are key medical staff in superb hospitals throughout the world is no joke. It would have been a step in the right direction if they had pulled this off.

Ymodulus: Was the hospital built by the Chinese?

i love it. i can see china flag on the building top.

I love china and am a proud Nigerian Chinese.

Go china go china

Nothing to do with China. Completely Turkish. The construction firm is Atilgan which assists in building projects that extends the influence of Turkey. See below yourself to note this Hospital is part of project built outside Turkey for Turkish Interest, control, participation, and interaction.

http://www.atilgancons.com/atilgan-construction-projects

HNosegbe: This is the problem.

The reason why I continue to insist on health insurance. Health insurance is the ONLY way to bring the services of these new hospitals within reach of the common man.

A comprehensive, all-encompassing system of health insurance is imperative at this point.

Why should standard health care be affordable only to the rich?

Even health insurance is unlikely to give the "common man" access to this sort of hospital. I would not have bothered commenting on the deception of the OP, because that is what GEJ fans do in their quest to 'steal' achievements, but reasonable posters like you deserve to know the truth.

This is a Turkish private hospital purely for the rich and an example of the capitalist 'reform' of medicine that globalisation has brought. I.e a business model that essentially see any group , if professional and organised, setting up ultra-modern and well-staffed hospital anywhere in the world exclusively for the patronage of the rich. Very lucrative niche market delivery

This is precisely the same as how the previously uber traditional and conservative British NHS has embraced a new agenda of delivering outreach medical care in places like Dubai, Qatar et al for ridiculously rich clients who will pay a fortune for local treatment they previously travelled to the UK for. This model is not for ordinary Nigeria and has nothing to do with the Government.

This is a hospital, with origin in Turkey, built on a model which is as private and as elitist as such is. It is primarily situated in Abuja to take advantage of the super-rich who travel abroad to pay a fortune for treatment. Check out the medical staff yourself to see it is like 70% Turkish.


http://www.nizamiyehospital.com/medikal-kadro

The rich too have to live so I think this is a positive development but I wonder why Nigerian Doctors in the diaspora, many very talented specialist who claim to love Nigeria, cannot do something like this. Can they not see the opportunity?


http://www.acendis.eu/acendis/news/news_full.php?id=31

First Turkish hospital in Nigeria


The Nigeria Turkish Nizamiye Hospital, the first Turkish hospital in Nigeria's capital Abuja, is built on an area of 25.000 m² and offers a space of 5.500 m² with three operating theatres, two intensive care units, a modern laboratory and a radiology centre. The fully equipped hospital had a contract volume of 12 Million US Dollars. Turkish doctors and health care professionals mobilised their own resources for this important project and ACENDIS is very happy to be part of it.


We would like to thank the hospital administration which chose ACENDIS for the realisation of the project.

sweetiePe: the guy is just trying to hide his flop, nothing else. No matter what happens you'd still be better than some. If we eventually be like Syria (God forbid), he'd ask us to thank God we are not like Afghanistan!

Pathetic!

Precisely.

[quote author=i_laugh]WHATEVER THIS MAN SAYS, YOU WILL FIND A REASON SOMEWHERE IN YOUR BIASED MIND TO QUESTION IT. FC.UK. GIVE IT UP. WHY HASNT ANYONE HID THIS THREAD JUST AS THE OP IS KNOWN TO DO?

I am sure he raised this point because the President is speaking against the OPs evil Islam.[/quote]Why are some of you focused on the OP? Why not let us inspect the message of the thread? As Berem succinctly illustrated, what would be even your own personal reaction if Ghana's President used Nigeria as an example of what Ghanaians should be "thankful" their country is not? Would you take such an utterance gracefully and even pat Dramani Mahama on the back or would you be spitting fire at the "disrespect" and the need for Mahama to focus on the problem of his own Nation and the job he is paid to do?

Besides, is it not obvious it is wrong for this President who has supervised a serious downward slide in our status as a "terrorized nation" to now ask us to be thankful we are, in his opinion, better than Syria? It shows GEJ is a leader who does not confront his own limitations, inadequacies and failure. The defeatist words of GEJ, if we are to shun sentiments and bias, only typifies the celebration of failure and ease with our worsening situation.

maclatunji: Just because a man from the Southsouth is president, the ruling party has become "their" party.

Comical irony lost on those who do not have the character to see how myopic, divisive and treacherous conducts always comes back to haunt those guilty of such. Clannish supporters of GEJ now vacillate between playing victim (they hate "minority" GEJ) to threatening Nigerian ("oil will stop flowing if GEJ does not return) because the reality, i.e the fact that the PDP is numerically a Northern Party, has now dawned on unrefined folks who never appreciated the need to carry every stakeholder along and respect others always.

Northerners can make a legitimate claim to being a pivotally prominent component of the PDP from its beginning till now. Sensibly ambitious folks will try to respect and work with that reality instead of delude themselves they now "own" what others built and will not give up without a fight.

berem: It is just like Ghana President making an independence speech and thanking God that his country is not as corrupt as Nigeria .I bet you that the Nigerian government will react to such statement. Whoever wrote that speech for Jonathan must be crazy!!

Great contextual example Berem. Imagine the outcry if that actually transpired. We all know Nigerians, from the leaders to those who are led, will be queueing to tear Ghana apart for the "insult" and "lack of respect"!!!

The problem for Nigeria is that this will not stop because petty and diversionary antics is all we will get from those who are not good at providing solutions yet have been put in the position of doing that. For me, the effective administration of Nigeria is far,far beyond the ability of GEJ.

Kairoseki77: I love how you people always forget that PDP has far more Northerners in it than APC.

Bruv, it is the 'JJC' fans of GEJ who make themselves blind to that fact. Everyone else know that, beyond the "national spread" rhetoric, the PDP is a Northern Party. It is the fans of GEJ who want to reshape the Party with fraud and usurpation which cannot stand the test of number. This is what is causing all the problems for the PDP currently. I.e the fact GEJ will lose to the Northerner if they let Party Primaries, like democracy, to be purely a game of numbers.

Arysexy: @ OP did Dora akunyili, okonjo iweala, Ken Nnamani, david mark snatch ur wife? Abeg remove dat aregbe something frm dat list its very irritating to read.

This is why we cannot have a rancour-free discussion on Nairaland. OP submitted his list of those , in his opinion, who are outstanding public officers. Don't get offended if his choice does not include those you rate personally. Simply mention yours and perhaps say why you chose them.

Asking Aregbesola to be removed from someone elses list means you do not understand that this is about who we individually feel is an outstanding public officer to us. You cannot argue that many in Osun will not say this about their Governor because, to them, he may have supervised transformation which makes him an outstanding public servant. Jarus mentioned Attahiru Bafarawa .

I would not personally choose him but that is because I am not aware of his achievement as I am not adequately informed about his effort. It does not mean Attahiru Bafarawa has no achievement or that he should not be on the personal list of Jarus. A little bit of consideration and tolerance for the choice/opinion of others may actually see us learn about leaders we do not know much about.

chukwudi44: Bros Amosun should not make the list we have had even Governors like chime,lamido and Amaechi that are better than him yet they did not make the list.Amosun is not exceptional e is just there.

This is a subjective list. The point is that Enugu folks very much have the right to insist Chime should be on that list because of what he has done for them as judging stakeholders. You who may then not be from Enugu should then not tell them that Chime does not merit a nomination while Akpabio does. It is all about how efficiently public leaders serve their locality and stakeholders. That is what tells us, for example, that Akunyili may be a good governor if in that position or that Chime may be a very efficient Minister.

Naturally, federal appointees may be more prominent and popular but if we make this about them then we might as well not include any governor at all because, unless we ask Akwa Ibom and Ogun citizens who are pertinently qualified stakeholders as an example, there is no way to say one Governor deserves to be nominated more than another especially when those making the call are not even stakeholders of the States in question let alone be objective judges over how a governor has impacted on every aspect of the lives of their citizen.

Afam4eva: What has Amosun done in that unprecedented in Nigeria? Maybe you mean Ogun state.

Of course I mean Ogun State. You don't seem to understand that you cannot introduce discrimination into this. This is about achievers who have delivered for those they are responsible for serving. It could even be a local Government chairman who has performed extraordinarily. Maybe you don't understand that prominence/fame or federal level appointment is not the issue here.

I believe he has tried when you compare him with his predecessors but it's not something that will make him mentioned in the same sentence as Fashola, El Rufai, Akunyili, Akpabio etc. I think it's an insult on this people for a governor who's trying honestly to develop his state to be compared with them. It's not done.

Why not? Are Akpabio and Fashola not Governors like Amosun with a core brief of first leading effectively on behalf of their citizens at State level? If this is the case and you agree so, how is Amosun then deficient to them? As a measure of percentage rise, how many Governor can match Amosun's achievement of IGR increment? Probably only Fashola with many who have been in office longer than him being ordinary in that regard !!! Pray tell the forum what is unremarkable about a Governor setting an example over what we all say is one of the most important things for governors to do i.e raise more internally to develop Nigerian States with. How many Governors have achieved what is revealed below considering we say we want Governors to finance themselves more?

http://ogunstate.gov.ng/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=150:the-governors-address-at-the-investors-forum-2012&catid=35:business-in-ogun-state&Itemid=103

Our Administration has increased the State's IGR from the paltry N730M to N2B within a period of months, excluding revenues from land transactions.

Regarding El Rufai and Akunyili, they had their core brief of responsibility to certain stakeholders. Akunyili was exemplary and a pioneer to those she served which happened to be all Nigerians because of her job as NAFDAC boss. Some in Ogun may argue same about Amosun and this is the point. It is those who have delivered for their respective stakeholders who deserve to be on the list. I cannot see how logically and factually Amosun is less qaulified in this regard in comparison to Fashola, Akpabio et al.

sarutobie: Oga don't derail this thread with epistles and bickerings..

Give it a rest. Why don't you advice the right poster against bickering and obtrusiveness? Do you see me attempting to discredit anyone's choice or is it that others attempted to discredit Amosun to the point I was forces to correct that? The bias and pettiness of some of you, that you carry from thread to thread, is so horribly transparent. You should be telling Afam4eva to endorse his choice and perhaps say why instead of him spending his time here trying to discredit those others choose.

On a subjective thread like this, it is important folks understand that no one is a dictatorial judge on who qualifies and who does not. Best to nominate your personal choice, perhaps illustrate their achievements, and leave it at that.

Afam4eva: I[b]s that enough to include him in a list that spans over a decade?[/b] He's doing some projects, all well and good but is he the only one undergoing such projects. We're talking of people like Fashola who caused a revolution in their respective field and not a governor that's still trying to bring to fruition his vision.

Stop this garbage dude. You do this all the time and it is an exponent of your patent dishonesty and bias. First you insinuate he has "nothing on the ground" when that was dealt with you attempt disqualifying him from being considered because, according to your shallow mind, others have 'paid their dues' courtesy of being public administrator longer than Amosun

What does time span have to do with judging the efficacy of a leader? OP said since any leader since 1999 and what Amosun has done since 2011 is unprecedented in Ogun, to stakeholders, and puts him, in real terms, at the top as far as 'on ground' delivery over the same period of time in comparison with any governor. Of course even a child knows that years in office only gives more time to judge administrators by yet has no bearing in judging achievement. Amosun has now been in office long enough for everyone to see and feel his impact everywhere.

Afam4eva: The thread is about public officers and what they have done and that is on ground and not what they will do. I think it's too early to put Amosun in the mix. I think it's an insult on people who have spent years revolutionizing where they found themselves.

@topic
Let's not forget Madam Due process, Oby Ezekwesili. That woman has so much passion exuding from her.

Come on dude. Stop the mischief and dishonesty. You are a mod here and has seen many threads where the massive infrastructural achievements of Amosun has been revealed here so let us stop all this obsession with bare-faced mischief because I mentioned some of his "plans".

Even those who are not fans of the ACN/APC yet know Ogun State admit to the sheer massive scale of the ongoing work in Ogun State and I don't see what purpose it serves to deny what you cannot be ignorant of. Ask Ogun folks under 30 if they remember ever seeing this scale of work in the past.

This is how you always succeed to cause offence i.e using sheer ignorance to belittle what others have achieved because of your personal bias. Amosun, by any standard you want to use, has revolutionised the affairs of Ogun State especially with Infrastructure everyone can see an feel on a scale many still find hard to believe. You are the same person shown the extensive and comprehensive transport effort of Amosun taking in a BRT system and new taxis yet you still come here feigning ignorant deceitfully to be talking of "what is on ground". Na wa for you sha because I don't know any Nairalander, even the openly bigoted ones, as dishonest as you are.

https://www.nairaland.com/1378086/pictures-massive-construction-work-ogun

ketoprofen: ok.
But we are not discussing plans here.
We are talking of tnz on ground.

He has actually put a lot on the ground. I did not mention them because we would be here all day. This is well-known about Amosun so no need to hijack the thread and make it about him.

bunmioguns: and

Gov. Ibikunle Amosun of Ogun State

Indeed. Aside his huge achievements already in infrastructure in a short period, his urban regeneration plan is laudable. His brand new Abeokuta flagship town development project is really ambitious and impressive. One of the best on show in Nigeria currently behind the likes of Eko Atlantic City.

The plans for the light rail network throughout Ogun, which Lagos alone boast simila as far as I knowr, is also an example of a very transformational achievement capable of vastly changing the productivity, efficacy and way of life of a people. One only needs to visit London, Paris, New York et al to appreciate the important of modular/linked rail transport. Amosun certainly deserves a mention and I expect Ogun State to be vastly transformed for the better by the end of his tenure.

Sincere 9gerian: @Gbawe..,Your post is filled with plenty grammar but with no substance.

At the root of most of the problems facing Nigeria is structural deficiency. From corruption, infrastructural decay, lack of patriotism, do-or-die politics,etc is a terribly flawed structure.

For instance, the national budget (federal budget) is about N5 trillion. Out of this ASUU asking for N3 trillion, the doctors are asking for hundreds of billions, the road sector (federal roads) needs almost N1 trillion to be substantially motorable, we need over railways

A structure that pretend that Abuja can cater for 167 million people is flawed. Abuja cannot and can NEVER feed 167 million people, even if the govt is headed by Obama or an angel.

The present arrangement where 167 million people live on Abuja can only breed poverty, laziness, dependency, terrorism, corruption, mediocrity, lack of creativity, unemployment, more under-development, etc.

Until the present arrangement is reversed, ie Abuja lives on the productivity/wealth/creativity/hardwork of 167 million people (RESOURCE CONTROL), then we've not even started.

The logic of RESOURCE CONTROL is simple. If Abuja tries to feed 167 million people, the food can NEVER be enough; but if 167 people cooks for Abuja, the food will be SURPLUS. That is the logic of RESOURCE CONTROL.

RESOURCE CONTROL will mean that Rivers State govt will harness the human and material resources in the state and bring something to the table at the centre (pay taxes). The Borno and Yobe State govt MUST look inwards, build wealth from its human and material resources and pay bring something to the table at Abuja. Ditto for other states and local govt of the federation.

It means that era when Borno, Yobe, Ogun, Enugu,etc state govts and local govts come to Abuja begging for food for their respective constituencies are OVER.

RESOURCE CONTROL does not solve ALL our problems but without it, we haven't even started

You are talking garbage. Do you know how many Nations of the world, with similar structure to Nigeria, have good central administration that makes things work effectively? Aside your poor grasp of the relation and synergy between adequate leadership effort and development, you are also a very dishonest person.

What, for example, does "resource control" have to do with how an irresponsible leadership class deliberately perverted administrative processes over time till a stupendous 70% of the budgeted spending of Nigeria is now used on recurrent expenses whereas same is in single digit in many developed nation i.e under 10%. You wish to overlook how Nigeria has horribly and self-destructively skewed this basic developmental ratio to be talking of "resource control"? Is this not a display of your patent dishonesty and legendary insincerity ?



Do you know the massive developmental benefits that can be derived from GEJ even choosing this one area to bravely and holistically reform? Have you always lived on Mars not to have noted that many development analyst have warned that Nigeria can never develop without a system that curtails waste and bloated governance drastically? What has cutting waste, to make far more available for capital spendings, got to do with resource control? You can fool simpletons with your unintelligent drivel but smart folks here know that aggressive cost-cutting , as an agenda of reform many nations embrace, could actually overhaul our road/transport infrastructure completely. Instantly, the benevolent effect of that will be felt and ploughed back positively into the overall socio-economic development of Nigeria !!!!

You have been shown consistently that the totally unnecessary N18 billion used to maintain the Presidential air-fleet yearly can provide adequate accommodation for a vast number of Nigerians yet you will never argue here for your messiah to cut such insensitively wasteful cost and many, many, many more like that throughout Governance that makes Nigeria one of the few Nation where the vast majority of the budget is used subsidising the lavish existent of a very small percentage of the population. Instead you prefer hollow drivel you know will appeal to a people now divided by feudal rigidity and regional/ethnic dichotomy to the extent many cannot see what is obvious which is that the system is horribly bleeding a vast amount of money that could actually supervise the adequate development of Nigeria !!!

Everywhere else in the World, the processes, cuts and reform compromised GEJ and those before him are failing to initiate are precisely what has made nations great not your apologists and 'carousel' suggestions!!! Citizens demand that those actions be carried out !!! They don't vote in leaders to then craft a new set of parameters after those leaders have unravelled as total failures who are big parts of the problem. Nigeria is literally bleeding money everywhere with all major institutions moribund and you are here attempting to deceive others with your unbelievably senseless BS.

As an example, it is obvious you will never support an honest look at the failure of GEJ in regards to his penchant for propping up inefficiency because you know he is a poster child of waste, profligacy and bloated Governance. You would rather tout the hollow panacea of "resource control" so that the deficiency of GEJ, along with his inability to reform Nigeria for the better, is ignored. The bottom line is that leadership sincerity and efficacy, at the centre, is needed far more than anything else right now. You just cannot admit that because this sharply brings the action and inaction of GEJ in focus to the extent even a little child will know he is failing.

kaeyame: I agree with your points sir, but what I have an issue with is them "oyibo" shoving these findings down our throats!

Coming to your last paragraph, especially the bold text, I wish we all could really begin to tow that path! Plus, there is a huge gap, filled with leaders between us and Mr. President.
We oftentimes overlook them! These are the ones we should really watch out for, for crying out loud, they are the ones we "know"

To be honest, no Nigerian loves this. Not even the ones who have turned their back on the Nation. Nonetheless we must face the truth. How I view things is that we should be able to debunk these rankings with proven facts and sensible argument never sentiments. The reality is that doing so, in the case of Nigeria, is simply not possible because we ourselves see all the terrible thing occurring we would be liars denying. We have all seen the mess made of our refineries by our greedy and self-serving leaders. We all see how corruption is now official and openly brazen today.

Yes I agree it is tedious confronting these 'negatives' about our Nation but these revelation should spur our leaders on to make a change. With leadership, I don't blame the President for everything but he fails many times, by commission or omission, to do the right thing and lead by example.

If a President is genuinely trying via doing the right things, then I can bear with and even support him. I won't support a President who supervised the handing over of marketers license to roadside mechanics , lacking requisite capacity to operate as fuel importers, who then went on to scam Nigeria blind via fraudulent invoicing for "imported" fuel !!!!

I have no affinity with a President who, in the face of crippling poverty of his people, buy 3 planes for $151 million to add to 7 functional planes when his African compatriots are even selling the single aircraft they have to "alleviate poverty" of the people. Insensitively, this President is then comfortable allocation N18 billion to maintain his fleet being the same amount the UN says can comfortably provide accomodation for a stupendously large number of Nigerians.

I cannot support a President who hands our refineries over to the moribund NNPC and gives pipeline protection contracts to militant with the result that oil theft is at its highest level now for a long time. I can't praise a President who elevates corruption publicly.

I can't back a President told to kill corruption by ending the practice of Nigeria selling her crude through trader as the only major exporter currently doing so. Rather than implement such a sensible suggestion, the President actually sanctions attacks against the leader of the team (Ribadu) that made the recommendations. Even Ghana that began selling oil recently is not found wanting in regards to such a condemnable practice. It is always Nigeria. It is a year now since Ribadu submitted his report with nothing done at all after a lot of money had been dedicated to empowering the work of Ribadu. Ditto for the many committees convened expensively only for their recommendations to be ignored by a President who is a big part of the problem.

There are a million things showing PDP Presidents directly abetting the problems of Nigeria which then lead to these awfully notorious positions of Nigeria on 'unsavoury lists'. That is what we have to confronts first as direct stakeholders instead of hosting any righteous indignation over 'Oyinbo's' representation of us. Are they lying? I myself have come here to tell everyone that corruption at the the Nigerian airport of MMIA is the worst I have ever experienced as a traveller who has been to over thirty nations of the world with many of them being in Africa. Should I be attacked because some are uncomfortable with this revelation or should the appropriate authority be charged to get to work so that this awful status quo is reversed?

The fact is that many of our woes are caused by many leaders at many levels but direct links for the biggest failures can be established with the poor performance of OBJ, Yar Adua and now GEJ. Between them, they have had 14 years of trying and our major problems remain the same or worse because of their actions/inaction. So far, OBJ is worst because he had 8 years he squandered completely whereas President of Lula of Brazil, in the same 8 years (2003 t0 2011) turned Brazil around tremendously and amazingly. We must face the fact that 14 years of democracy, if our Presidents were of a comparatively decent calibre, is enough to see many unenviable things about Nigeria reversed. Nothing to do with 'Oyibo'.

TeaParty: You should try more as well by telling your Tinubu to also live by example.

If Tinubu is the President of Nigeria then your post may have contextual relevance. Going by your logic, we should even revive Abacha and tell him to "lead by example" while those officially elected to do so are excused to continue with their misrule.

kaeyame: @Gbawe, I missed an earlier issue I wanted to point out: did the "oyibo" add that "pic" to the article, to depict "Nigeria" or you did?
Could you also explain the reason, if it was your choice?

I am not the thread starter so the article or picture used has nothing to do with me.

[quote author=HUGE_S]Seriously? I mean did Aliyu, Lamido, Kwakwaso et al really agreed to make d 5th point official. Did they Knw Amechi played a fast one on them wit that point. Cos the simple interpretation of point 5 to me is RESOURCE CONTROL. Amechi which 'jass' u use for them, cos I see Nigerians holding the 'northern boyz' by dis press release in d near future wen they begin to say dey did not mean resource control by point 5[/quote]Thank you. I am glad one poster noticed an attempt by Insincere9gerian and others to deceive the forum because of their own clannish and feudalistic convictions and proclivities. No doubt nPDP are part of the problem and no one can be taken in by their masquerade as the new 'messiah' on a rescue mission. Of course they would have carried on as normal if this rift with the Presidency had not arisen!!!!! We all know that moot point.

Nonetheless, that does not mean we are goaded into a frenzy by deceptive forumers to the point of dismissing or missing totally the message delivered. This is why I said from the start that some of the recommendations are actually commendable. As usual, Insincere9gerian has again showed he is (1) deliberately deceptive and/or (2) always speaking without comprehending what is written. One of the 8 recommendations is actually "resource control" , followed by many other good recommendations, and I am glad I was not the only one who noticed.

[quote author=Kris d don.]you are right as regard resource control but did i hear you say that apart from it any other demand is nonsense? U're freaking kidding me! With this, i conclude that u're in gov't. Now i ask u, what about the infrastructural decay particularly the roads that need herculean efforts to fix them or the shabby educational sector? If u don't know that holding millions of youths to ransome at home for miserable 3months is a crime against morality and even divinity, then i will be forced to believe that Nigeria will never be better with ur likes in power! I live u to ur conscience.[/quote]Thank you. This is a big problem for Nigeria currently. I.e too many Nigerians are vested in politics of clannish enmity against one thing/group or the other to ever see what matters. How on earth can the clamour for resource control now blind us to the argument that the Government at the centre is failing horribly to give value for the 52.7% of all allocations it currently receives to administer Nigeria?

Threads like this, whether we want to admit it or not, demonstrate that Nigeria lack citizens who are solution providers and critical thinkers. I mean no disrespect to anyone saying that. I just want some of us to introspect more. Insincere9gerian parrot the usual rhetoric about 'resource control' and many regurgitate it without inspecting what is terribly obvious. I.e the fact that agitating for resource control does not prevent us demanding that corruption is tackled. Wanting resource control does then not mean we excuse the fact that Nigeria is failing at refining her crude endowment and that security is abysmal in a Nation where the President justifies allocating N18 billion for the maintenance of his ten-plane Presidential airfleet while N11 billion is the sum allocated for equipping our entire police force.

Those who know Insincer9gerian well enough will understand he threw the resource control 'banana' into the arena to truncate any inspection of the failings of GEJ in relation to how the suggestion of nPDP, some of them being very good ones analysts worldwide have recommended, actually expose what Jonathan is not doing in the face of so much being wrong with Nigeria.

Resource control does not prevent you reforming a clearly moribund and worthless NNPC. It does not stop a declaration of a State of emergency to tackle the abysmal federal infrastructure of Nigeria and our/or problems that are the domain responsibility of the FG. Government should still be pursuing the aggressive growth of the SME sector, the 'lifeblood' of economies worldwide, and no talk of resource control should detract from that.

Assuming we have resource control as the deceitful Insincere9gerian bamboozles some posters with, is it the States that will then renovate and our federal roads deemed some of the worst and least motorable in the World currently?

Does everything now start and end in States or is it now wrong, because some attempt to decieve others via shouting "resource control", to demand that the FG is up and doing in relation to its duties and responsibilities? How is the need for the FG to be far more diligent and effective than it currently is tied to resource control alone? In contrast, and for those who can relate problems to solutions, it is obvious some of the recommendations of the nPDP actually provide workable solutions to identified problems even if some want to muddy the water with impertinent talk based on whipping up feudal sentiments in Nigerians that detract from the monumental failure of the FG.

Even with the resource control argument, the 8 recommendation covered it with the innate feudalism of many making them to miss it. To expose the deceit Insincere9gerian and other feudalists are trying to pull off, so that an intelligent inspection of the recommendations of the nPDP is impossible, the forum oblige and tell me what the suggestion below is demanding when it wants States to gain greater control of their resources ? It is the same method Insincere9gerian and his clan used to discredit Ribadu right here on this forum so we would not inspect the recommendations of his petroleum task force to demand with one voice, as a focused people, that GEJ implement those recommendations.

•We demand a re-ordering of the inchoate federal structure we are running with a view to allowing the states and the other federating units more access to resources to attend to the numerous responsibilities placed on them.

@OP.

This has been known for a while and Lagos should join the league of oil-producing Nigerian States in future.