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apoti: lol... I guessed I was fooled then or maybe he has turned a new leaf

See for yourself what the clown wrote on the thread below before me and many other Yorubas shut him up. People like him are vile and nauseating. It is just that Nigeria is backward and many of her people cannot appreciate how prejudice is such an ugly and repellent thing.

That is why some Nigerians, like this Ikengawo character, go around happy to offend others with their hateful , highly prejudiced and nonsensically ignorant garbage. Next minute they then want to cosy up to others and expect to be indulged when they start pathetic threads like this. The fool should not be allowed to mention "Yoruba" around here. Let him keep his ignorant thinking to himself and other bigoted elements who support his offensive Bullcrap.

https://www.nairaland.com/1398990/botswana-plans-deport-nigerians

Igbos are ambitious, nobody will take that from them but it's almost impossible to convince them what they own is better than what they can possiby own or have and that's what leads to their desperate nature.


Yorubas are fearful, nobody will take that from them either. A yoruba person is not going to risk what he has, even if it's very little, no matter the reward and don't typically think outside of what's theres. Many yorubas don't know there was a civil war in Nigeria.

BluIvy: Not to put water on your jive but what do Americans know outside their own little states? Ask one to show you where Nigeria is on the map, they would most likely point to the Sahara desert. And besides Achebe stayed and worked in US for a longtime it is only fair that they would know him better
than Soyinka. And like the fact that your quoted writer of the statement clearly said "an unknown in this country (US)" and last time I check US is not the world.

Don't mind some of these bigoted clowns. They even use words like "world wide acclaim" to garnish their prejudice. As if our fellow African Countries produce Nobel laureate daily and by the dozen for these odious element to now attempt this ignorant and intellectually crass effort to belittle Soyinka.

Anyway, I blame lack of exposure for some of the crap some utter here. Folks should travel Africa to note how some non-Nigerians are proud of Soyinka while it is his 'own' who pull him down the most. Let the man stay in his corner abeg. There is only so much insult a decent soul can tolerate from Nigerians who, in my opinion, happen to be some of the biggest ingrates on earth !!!! Soyinka, Falana and others should stop turning out for Nigeria. What have they ever gotten in return for their efforts anyway? I hope Uncle Wole keeps to his 'hands-off' pledge. Staying away is perhaps the only way to making ingrates appreciate the worth of very special people who , year in year out, do things the rest of do not have the braveness or uprightness to face. Kongi go and rest and leave god-forsaken Nigeria to her fate.

[quote author=Dudu_Negro]You do not have a firm grip on Ibo culture, much more to have a claer understanding of Yoruba culture and thus be in a positiin to compare similarities between the two.

These are social values you listed, the way people respond to living circumstance in a given set of environmental envelope. I dont know, these listings might be cultures in Iboland.....but in Yorubaland we dont call those cultures.[/quote]Don't mind the pathetic twerp. Anyone taking the clown seriously need to glance at his previous post to note the stone-age bigot and prejudiced 'throwback' they are dealing with.

apoti: Wow... this is very insightful. As Yoruba man with many igbo friends I can't fault most of the points this piece.

However there are/were some rich Yoruba men Like MKO that that belongs to the 'poor' generation, but still became rich.

This is what we should be getting on Nairaland. Not the usual Yorubas are cowards and Igbos are drug dealers BS.
Let's appreciate ourselves and learn about our differences.
Peace.

Do not be fooled. This clown is the one of the biggest bigots on Nairaland !!! Should I show you where he writes that Igbos are "ambitious", plus everything good under the Sun, while Yorubas are "weak/timid" and everything negative despite this being wicked lies reality, at no stage, has ever supported? Do you want me to reveal a thread where two Unilag Girls (during the GEJ MAULAG misadventure) wore T-shirts with wrong spelling and this clown was quick to knock "Yoruba illiteracy" when no one wrote Yoruba on the forehead of the girls?

Go and inspect his previous post and stop being gullible. The guy is about prejudice against Yoruba folks always. Imagine Adolf Hitler trying to pretend he loves and respect jews The silly tribalist knows where he wants this thread to head. I will always be here to tackle idiots like him. Enough is enough !!!!!

Pathetic idiot. Why don't you just speak for your own ethnic group alone instead of peddling your own warped stereotype about others you know nothing about and remain always ready to disrespect and malign?

gbanikiti: Goodluck Jonathan is corruption personified!

EOD!

Absolutely !!! Are we clowning around here or playing with scenarios that never transpired or is it the numbing reality that the entire world helped Nigeria to witness and document, under GEJ , the biggest subsidy scam recorded in the history of Nigeria? Shall we talk about record-high oil theft going on under GEJ right now that his 'boys' boldly come out to tell the rest of us is "resource control"?

Should we inspect the scams? Should we look at how, when we most need to reshape our nation along the lines of moral uprightness, our number one citizen is the same character who has never ever led by example? Yet some remain obsessively and bigotedly interested in only mentioning Yoruba and Hausa/Fulani names every single time the misruling antics of GEJ are highlighted. Pathetic. Perhaps Nigeria is doomed anyway. Who even cares any more?

@Omenka. Can you see an example of the ethnocentric Nigerians I am talking about below? State, with precise examples and statistics, the corruption linked to GEJ that is harming all Nigerians and all some amoral elements are capable of doing is mentioning some Yoruba names as if that should blind Nigerians from noting how inadequate and incompetent their President is in this day and age !!!!

FreeGlobe: ^
gbawe he is not more. corrupt than Tinubu and Fashola

omenka: Ostrich syndrome.
He's the most corrupt for stealing over 1.6trillion naira in a single year!! Abacha has got nothing on this dude.

Some ethnocentric Nigerians just prefer to blind themselves to the crazily stupendous and monumental looting that has gone on under GEJ. I do not know where to begin with those sort of Nigerians. Even now, oil theft is highest under this ultra-corrupt President with Nigeria literally bleeding money !!! How many stupendous scams and depleted accounts since GEJ came on board? How many criminals remain at large swaggering unrepentantly everywhere? How many 'path-finding' committees have been set up and then ridiculed or ignored?

Jonathan is literally destroying Nigeria in a way so crude that even non-Nigerians are doing away with diplomatic decorum to wade in and challenge us to act !!! Yet this action will never come because of how everything, for Nigeria today, is now so tainted with ethnocentric myopia to the extent many miss the crux of the matter which is that GEJ is a shockingly horrid President to all Nigerians !!!!

Some god-forsaken bigots can continue to come here daily to reel off Yoruba and Hausa/Fulani distractingly, every time the misrule of GEJ is highlighted, but it is their own children's future they are destroying with their inability to recognise that wrong is wrong in relation to our number one citizen !!!

ngozievergreen: Tell that to Omobola Johnson who derides the greatChinua Achebe

I do not know or care about Omobola Johnson let alone be aware of her disrespect of chinua Achebe. Relate to others with honesty and integrity always. That is what matters most in life. I can tell you that "an eye for an eye leaves the world blind". Think what you want, perhaps because you are in a tribalistic vacuum, but know that many Yorubas consider Achebe an outstanding Nigerian.

You should , as a woman and the sex responsible for nurturing peace and unity, be about what is right and what heals the world . I am Yoruba yet would never speak bad of Achebe. His personal perspective and outlook will always be his own but he is a Nigerian I am proud of and would be privileged to have my children emulate because I believe in the concept of man being excellent at what he does for a living. Whatever people like you think, the world stands up and acknowledge Achebe and Soyinka as masters of their craft. We are very lucky to have them even as Nigerians seem to want to pit them against each other when we should be filled with pride that Nigeria gave the world these two outstanding literature giants. Achebe, like Soyinka and many others Nigerian literature giants, was very, very special. A Nigerian treasure.

Ethnicity cannot and will never trivialise that.

You people should take your bigotry elsewhere and stop insulting our heroes others would love to own even as 'naturalised citizens'. Your political 'slave masters' are more vile. Focus your bile on them rather than on Nigerians who have brought our Nation honour and pride with their brilliance and talent.

ngozievergreen: Are u saying Soyinka is more popular than Achebe?
lwkmd.
I can confidently say u have not traveled out, Achebrs books are read by students worldwide, Soyinka is a local champion; but that's not what this topic is all abt, chill first

Wole Soyinka a "local champion"? Are you not ashamed of yourself? A woman for that matter? I am always gracious to women because you nurture the world but I would not wish you on any man because it is clear bigotry has destroyed your soul. Never mind the 'enmity' that has taken over this forum, the fact is that Nigerians who know what matters would always have respect in their heart for what Achebe and Soyinka have achieved. They are distinguished masters of their craft and only hateful souls will fail to note or celebrate these two very special Nigerians who, ahead of the many looters you all come here to celebrate daily, are part of the greatest gift of Nigeria to the entire universe !!!!

Most African Nations do not have even one individual, in their entire history, they can compare to these two very great men and here we have ugly characters like you constituting yourself into a vile hater of your own fellow citizen you should ordinarily acknowledge and celebrate as some of the greatest men to live exactly as the rest of the world readily does with Soyinka and Achebe. I really pity people like you because there seems to be no limit to your hatred of others. Ask other Africans how they would even love decent understudy 'copies' to Achebe and Soyinka. Yet we have two masters !!! All folks like you can do is satisfy your hateful soul ahead of recognising morality, decency and even self-pride.

eGuerrilla: It is unfair to characterise Soyinka as naive.
The man's virtues should not be mistaken for ignorance or weakness.

I agree with you. The only thing Soyinka and 'rare breed' like him are guilty of is the innate richness of soul that makes them aspire to shun the prejudice and character-destroying bias the rest of humanity has no problem using as a daily tool to prosecute life with.

The "that's the way of the world" song, from Earth wind and fire, is a subliminal eulogy to the likes of Soyinka. The man has a "heart of fire" yet, as the lyric goes, "child is born with a heart of gold the way of the world makes his heart grow cold" .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CWcATuuZAxs

[quote author=Dudu_Negro]Wow! I love this. Thanks Gbawe![/quote]My brother, you are welcomed. Kongi, I can tell you all, has been really discouraged by the vitriol directed towards his person by a people his lofty ideals would never allow him to discriminate against when he fought for the collective good of all Nigerians non-stop for decades now. I don't brag or name-drop but Ogun prominent sons are really one big happy family. If you are in the mix then you know who you know and you know what you know. Would Buhari have gone near Tinubu 15 years ago? Big no. Yet look at them today to understand the "road to Damascus" epiphany that has transformed Buhari to make him realise what and who matters.

We love Soyinka and I personally support his withdrawal into the background. Some of my greatest heroes (Marcus Garvey, Gani Fawehinmi, Kwame Nkrumah, Thomas Sankara and Patrice Lumumba for example ) have been men who were too far ahead of their time to be anything other than what transpired whereby their influence and importance was far less than what it should have been given their innate greatness and ultra-special rarity. Some of those guys, even with flaws, were the closest thing to God's angels on earth. I think Soyinka is in that category.

Anyone who truly loves and values Soyinka, plus knows his worth, will wish he bows out now. Nigeria is now an unrepentant cauldron of hate and an example of almost all that is bad about humanity and I want Uncle Wole, in his late years, to be spared prolonged association with that vileness when he is a man who is goodness personified.

@topic.

Soyinka, for those who follow his activism, has warned in the past he was "tired". He has stated implicitly and without equivocation that he will retire from lobbying on behalf of Nigerians because he believes he has played his part and that Nigerians should all be up and doing to get the leadership we want rather than expect the same old 'war horses' to continue battling for us.

I personally want the old man to go and rest. He does not deserve the disrespect he will get from a nation now so viciously divided to the extent hordes are ready to uncouthly tear apart those who would be deified elsewhere.

Personally, I could not care less whether GEJ sacks her or not. She is not, in my opinion, any more corrupt than most of the Ministers currently operating under GEJ. The fact is that our President is highly supportive of corruption and its practitioners.

To develop a great Nation led by leaders who will not make a fool of us and show us up as a gross aberration in comparison to others, then the Kingmakers/system/electorate must learn from this experiment with GEJ. It is not acceptable for Nigeria to have a President who is so far away from an acceptable minimum in this day and age when even other Africans are 'shaping up' as far as the calibre of leaders they present. Malawi has a President who sold the only Aircraft in the Presidential fleet and the fleet of luxury vehicle to "alleviate poverty" yet our President buys 3 planes, at a cost of $151 million, to join 7 functional aircrafts to make a total of 10. All this needless largess then cost Nigeria over N11 billion in maintenance cost yearly.

In Ghana, an AGF (attorney general of the federation) embroiled in graft was forced out to to ensure an example is set. In Nigeria, and under GEJ, our own grossly corrupt AGF and other corrupt officials walk with swagger everywhere secure in the knowledge that the President has their back. All in all, a sad state of affairs and a terrible indicator we are still miles behind others regarding the concept of having a minimal standard of ability a President must possess. I hope Nigerians are learning from all this. If not 'goodluck' to us for now and the future.

VirgoHillz: It's true. I just called my sister dis morning & she confirmed it

Abeg pay no attention to the enemies of progress motivated by all manners of bias and prejudice. No one needs to prove anything to those sort because it is obvious any one pretending not to believe this is just a worthless mischief-maker or political hack not worth indulging. Amosun has done so much to the extent he can be regarded as one of the best Governors in Nigeria. He needs no introduction for progressive and balanced Nigerians who appreciate the leaders who are delivering - wherever those leaders are from. Ogun folks can take it to the bank that this is a done deal.

Shrewd investors would do well to sink capital into the Ogun State property sector ASAP. The ROI (return on investment) will be massive in the next 3 - 6 years if Amosun continues at this pace and all planned initiatives are fully delivered.

The real gist of the matter

Governor Amosun stated that light rail would be constructed between the 6-lane road,adding that ‘all roads linking us with our neighboring states would be put in good condition for economic development.'

Pukkah: Getting personal because you've got no response to the issues raised?

I pity you.

Nigeria deserves its leaders.

Precisely.

Pukkah: At times, I wonder if there's still any point expecting any pleasant surprise from the President. I just wonder.

There's no respect at all for modesty or moderation.

How will GEJ ever be moderate or modest when he has the clannish support of those who think and talk like the chap below? Sometimes, it appears as if Nigeria is the unluckiest nation on earth with how we are beset with the usual problems all others have and the unusual ones virtually no other Nation is grappling with.

You know a nation is in serious trouble when ethnic division and myopia is so bad that people speak brazenly in defence of what is wrong that even negatively impacts on their own lives and that of their loved ones. What manner of excess, gross ineptitude and sheer maladministration has this man not displayed yet, day in and day out, folks show up to defend such failings letting Nigeria down in an age many Nations are blazing ahead via doing the right things?

njokusboy: Lolzz, oya anti jonathan make una come... Come and tell us whether this fleet has not always been lyk dat.. Tell us it was jonathan dat bought all of dem.. Tell us why u just realised this during the jonathan regime...

femmyb: With morons like this mumu, Nigerians certainly deserve the kind of leaders they got. Hope your man GEJ will give you a ride in one of his many aircrafts.

Don't mind people like him. They have no shame and lack the adult common sense to discern what matters. How can the President of a Country with a third of it's people in poverty be comfortable displaying such garish and insensitive profligacy amidst the extreme poverty that is a reality of life for majority of his citizens?

VEE2010: This is the reason why we must pressurize the govt to down size. You guys should not be blindfolded by sentiment. GEJ didn't buy all the Air crafts. I understand, the idea behind this publication is not to educate the public but to attribute undue blames to the govt of the day. Though, I'm not a fan of GEJ but a patriotic Nigerian that will always stand for the truth no matter where it is coming from. However, the reporter did quoted instances from other countries but also failed to analyzed the system of govt run by these countries he mentioned. For instance, USA whose democratic govt is somewhat closer to ours interms of ideology and processes in law making, executing and enforcing, any Vice President elect automatically becomes the Senate President. Here we are, having same function shared between David Mark and Nnamadi Sambo. Do you think, GEJ can fire David Mark for Sambo to do the work? That is why we implore Nigerians not to politicize the National Confab. Issues like this could scale through. And for your information, PAF is just a name given to all Aircrafts flown by govt top officials, some of the fleets are assigned to the National Assembly - Senate/Reps, Presidency, Judiciary. There's need to get our information right before we start hurling insult on anybody. If this trend in not address from it foundation, we'll keep having this problem even though we vote an Angel as President.

Did he buy 3 airplanes at the cost of $151 million or not? Give us a simple and honest yes or no. What about the added cost, to the national budget, regarding the maintenance of those three Planes GEJ bought? Do you not understand that many developed nations do not even have more than one airplane at the disposal of their President while your President, in one go, is buying 3 to join 7 functional airplanes resulting in a total of 10? When will we begin to shun emotions and destructive bias in Nigeria?

Who do you guys want us to hold responsible over the problems on the ground today that remains unchanged with even the likes of GEJ and OBJ worsening things? Lord Lugard? Awolowo? Azikiwe? Balewa? Just how far back do you want us to go before people like you start admitting that change must begin with those voted in because they begged for our votes with the pledge that they had the solutions to our problems?

When will Nigerians learn to hold leaders accountable as others appear able to do? When will it be obvious to you and millions of Nigerians that someone who does things in the same precise way that got Nigeria where she is today is someone who is "more of the same" and not part of the solution?

eluquenson: GEJ is simply an element of ETT, he can never understand what he's doing neither will he feel empathy for the cry of the masses.
God will judge

Indeed. Another highly condemnable aspect of this wasteful PAF obscenity under the current government is the reality that GEJ, shortly after becoming President and when many more pressing matters called for urgent attention, used $151 million to purchase three planes to needlessly and profligately augment the fleet he met on ground from 7 to 10. Those sort of actions show pragmatic Nigerians, not into clannishness and/or self-deceit, that this man is not change in any form at all. He is more of the same and worse.

Tolexander: i understand it's time to be bribed!

See insincerity of the highest order.
This is exactly how the bribery scandal between faouk lawan and otedola started.

The outcome of many probes like this is exchange of 'ghana must go'.

Precisely.

All these 'probes' will achieve absolutely nothing. Comparatively, Allison-Madueke and Adoke Bello have been embroiled in sleaze, official misconduct and gross abuse of office worse than what is now being revealed about Oduah. Yet Allison-Madueke and Adoke-Bello are still employed as Ministers today courtesy of a very corrupt President and an unbelievable lack of checks-and-balances within the Nigerian political system. Probe my foot.

Nauseating really. It is the same PAF that some posters were celebrating lately on Nairaland. I understand the whole 'boys and their toys' thingy but I do not understand how any Nigerian who is not a politician can look at the issue of the PAF with anything but disgust. The PAF is the embodiment of the crude greed and 'throwback' inconsideration ruining Nigeria.

Seun better fire his Mods and get new ones. A thread as comical as this only belongs in the joke section.

writers4hire: I mean, what do you guys hate her so much? Is it because she's an Igbo woman? FYI, whatever you guys say here does not matter so you can run your mouth all you like. She's still the minister of aviation and she's not getting sacked. Whatever you say in this forum of yours will not make any difference. Fresh air till 2019. You can even ask for a third term and we'll arrange it for you.

At OP, you are another paranoid delusional bigot with no interest at all in telling yourselves and your affiliates the truth. You prefer playing victim all the time, neglecting the open show of prejudice you and others indulge in on this forum 24/7, to pretend it is other ethnic group who are guilty of wrongdoing.

Whatever your intolerance and clannish prejudice against Yoruba Nigerians can you factually and rationally justify your attempt to disqualify them, as Nigerians, from criticising a Nigerian Minister, for graft, in a sector as crucial as aviation? Is this not how you guys turned GEJ into an SE/SS President whereby all others are forbidden from criticising his actions which will be adjudged wrong in all nations of the world by all balanced adults?

You want to know what real hate is? It is malevolently obsessing about others 24/7 who have nothing, absolutely zilch, to do with the lives of you and yours while you ignore or even defend the ruinous hands of your own kinsmen destroying your future and those of your children !!!! Now tell me, if you have any capacity for telling the truth, who are those most guilty of that extroverted malevolence here on this forum?