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PoliticsRe: South-African Girls Arrested For Having Nigerian Friends by Gbawe:
Abagworo: They plant drugs just to implicate innocent Nigerians. WTF!
Look, you may actually be lynched if there are no witnesses. Some of these people are wickedly backward animals. The killers of Lucky Dube openly stated that they shot him dead because they thought he was Nigerian. This, to even a fool, indicates the high level of tacit xenophobia against Nigerians in SA.

Clearly the killers sought to curry favours by insinuating they thought they were doing society a favour executing someone they all view to be an "animal" unfit to live. I really pity our naive and misguided pan-Africanist brothers on this forum who don't know the brutal reality of Africa today. If some of them can leave their comfort zone to travel the continent, they will know that the black man remains his own biggest enemy.

http://www.africanews.com/site/Killers_We_thought_Dube_was_Nigerian/list_messages/23069

Killers: We thought Dube was Nigerian
Posted on Sunday 8 February 2009 - 07:58
Kingsley Kobo, AfricaNews reporter in Abidjan, Ivory Coast

https://www.africanews.com/documents/c2/89/c2894d454758cf124efadb93e98cb469.article.jpg


South African media have reported that the suspected killers of reggae superstar, Lucky Dube, confessed they mistook him for a Nigerian.

This, according to reports, is a clear manifestation of the strong animosity South Africans have towards Nigerian nationals in that country, especially those driving flashy cars and living in nice homes.


Nigerian High Commissioner to South Africa, Brig. Gen. Buba Marwa (rtd) speaking to the South African correspondent of the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) on Saturday, reacted with shock to the news that Dube was mistaken to be Nigerian by his killers.


He said it was unacceptable that South Africans would perceive Nigerians with such hatred in spite of Nigeria’s contribution to the liberation of South Africans from the oppressive apartheid regime.


“This kind of situation is unacceptable to us as a people and as a government. What this perception means is, when you’re a Nigerian, you’re not safe here in South Africa,” Marwa lamented.


According to him, the matter would be tabled at the Review Meeting of the Nigeria-South Africa Bi-National Commission later this month in Abuja.


“This matter has to be tabled and tackled before the situation escalates. What if Nigerians at home also decide to maltreat South African nationals there?” he asked. “We must stop it now and get the relationship back where it should be – friendly and acceptability of brotherliness.”


Stressing further, Marwa said, “We are the same people who have toiled together in the past and are still toiling now. We have thousands of Nigerians - professionals and entrepreneurs, who are engaged in hard, decent and legitimate business and contribute to the economy of South Africa.


“If they have laboured hard to legitimately earn their pay, they reserve the right to afford whatever luxury cars of their taste and live out the best life-styles of their desire. It is their entitlement and definitely not a crime for you to live well if you work hard for it. Nigerians should not be seen as criminal elements.”


Assuring numerous Nigerians based in South Africa who called the high commission on the matter, Marwa said they were working on the issue and urged all Nigerians there to remain law-abiding citizens.
PoliticsRe: South-African Girls Arrested For Having Nigerian Friends by Gbawe: 6:28pm On Jun 27, 2013
dasparrow: @Post

Na wa o! And some Nigerians after reading this will still go to the travel section to find out how to get visa to South Africa. Nigerians, make una comot for that country oh! You all can read what this young south African lady who is obviously married to a Nigerian man telling by her last name is saying.

The other day, I read a thread here on Nairaland about south African women married to Nigerian men who are protesting the ill treatment their husbands are receiving in the hands of policemen. I know not all South Africans are bad but the negative news I keep reading from that country about how they treat Nigerians leaves me quite speechless.

I tell you, we black people are our own worse enemy. Later on, we will complain that white people are racists when in fact our own hatred for each other will make an average skinhead look like a saint. Anyways, God is watching and no one knows tomorrow. Nigeria may become great tomorrow if we Nigerians can kick out those in office who have chosen not to do anything but sit there and loot our collective treasury dry.
I say this here almost every day. The things the eyes of the Nigerian traveller in Africa see should at best only be imagined and never experienced. I am sure probably only Rick Ross can relate here as a business man who has visited many African nations.

Be educated, friendly, refined and ultra-polite as possible. That will not matter at all to those who just basically hate what they think you represent even as they have never met you to know what you are really about. Anyway, I am personally tired of talking about the same issue. Nigerians should just be 'alert' when travelling within Africa.
PoliticsRe: The Next Iyaloja: Tinubu Upbraids PDP, Journalists For “flashing Rumours " by Gbawe(op): 6:16pm On Jun 27, 2013
take dat: cheesy
Bruv, the way some talk here, literally foaming at the mouth, you think they won't join an ALUU-type lynch mob if the opportunity arises?
PoliticsRe: Country: Oduduwa Republic by Gbawe:
amor4ce: @Gbawe, an omo ale uses his left hand to point at (show the way) to his father's house. Only a thoroughly brainwashed house negro or negropean would accept and promote and seek to preserve the very savage works of the oyinbo (including the Berlin Conference, murder and enslavement of millions during the trans-Atlantic, trans-Saharan and oriental slavery). It is only an omo ale that will sell his inheritance and father's property and welcome others to claim it without his father's consent. It is only an omo ale that will despise, belittle and refer to his ancestors as primitive and condescendingly refer to his people as "atavistic" for loving and respecting their ancestors.The Berlin Conference was evil and has been used till date to divide non-nomadic black Africans. Perhaps you are a pro-oyinbo halfcaste, or been bleaching your soul, or your soul is actually oyinbo, perhaps not, hopefully not. This attitude of condscension and disregard for indigenous heritage shows up cosistently in your posts.Shame on you.
The racist proclivity behind this foul-mouthed rant ,you think portrays you an "Oduduwa patriot", is very obvious. Are you more Yoruba than me or anyone else? What has brought "house negro", "Negropean" , "pro-Oyinbo" and "half-caste" into this issue racist tw1t !!!! I repeat again, do you think yourself more Yoruba than everyone else? Ugly racist.
PoliticsRe: Photos From Commissioning Of Mokola Flyover by Gbawe: 4:28pm On Jun 27, 2013
miky: Bull, commissioning a flyover? men that's sad.. jigawa has done way better than oyo.. and lagos only gets 6 bllion more than oyo.. dont be deceived, because a flyover to nowhere is not an achievement..
What brought Jigawa into this now?
PoliticsRe: Photos From Commissioning Of Mokola Flyover by Gbawe: 4:27pm On Jun 27, 2013
ujoinme: Why all these bad belle? The governor is solving traffic problems for his state.am sure the people of that state like what he is doing.
Why are some people filled with so much bile? overpass has been completed and the people are utilizing it, the governor has done well and should be applauded.
other gov. should do same thats how to move nigeria forward.
Thank you. Very refreshing to read. I don't really like the fanfare myself but it is not really something I object to. In the case of the SW, the region had it really bad under the PDP and I suppose people (administrators and the people themselves) perhaps 'over-celebrate' sometimes but not harm done in my opinion.
PoliticsRe: Photos From Commissioning Of Mokola Flyover by Gbawe: 1:34pm On Jun 27, 2013
aspabay: Before you spew nonsence next time about the performance of any gorvernor, take a look at this analysis obtained from the National Office of Statistics

[img]http://img1.nairaland.com/attachments/1174430_May_2013_jpg0a32274ec487e6ba98680e8be3b25d16[/img]
Thank you very much for delivering perspective. Very important to note that past PDP administrators in SW States emphatically refused to deliver what we are seeing now because "money is not available". They specifically hid behind this excuse for giving the people virtually nothing for what they were collecting from the centre.

Anyone into progress for Nigerians, wherever they from, should just 'allow'. This celebration may not be to our personal taste, as is the case for me, but it is nothing anyone should be rabidly foaming at the mouth about especially when they never showed up on other threads about the bridge to even say "kudos". This only reveals that many Nigerians are now warped in mentality to the extent we only want to immerse ourselves in negativity always.
PoliticsRe: Country: Oduduwa Republic by Gbawe: 12:41pm On Jun 27, 2013
noblezone: Right people? what do you mean by right people?

the truth is this:
No government can perform unless they are accepted and supported by the people they lead.
Tell me the Nigerian that will be accepted by the South South, South East, South West, North Central, North East and North West. the day we have such a Nigerian, is the day we are ready for some progress!
"Acceptance" is overrated. If the right leaders are elected, they will initiate the reforms and bold changes needed that gradualists, from every single ethnic group, will avoid when elected into positions they do not have the ability to use in moving the nation forward. How is "acceptance" connected with leaders fully empowered to deliver changes, one after the other, blatantly rejecting the required course of action that can move all of us forward? What acceptance is GEJ looking for that prevents him from being the leader championing the cause of State policing? Does GEJ need the acceptance of every ethnic group in Nigeria before he directs that we stop selling our crude through traders, as Ribadu suggested, so as to destroy theft against Nigeria?

Dude, you don't have to just unquestioningly embrace what has been sold to you as the "only solution" and then rigidly sticking to this in the face of evidence that shows you are misguided. Look at the truth of matters to note you have been scammed. Begin to look at even your own leaders and elders with honesty. Are they sincere? How many real leaders today, even those from your very household, do you see agitating for separation when they become part of the "power order"? How come Okonjo-Iweala, Anyim et al are not making the same noise you disturb us with on this forum daily? Even you will sing a different tune tomorrow if made a Senator.

I just think we should focus on the centre delivering changes that mean all of us can develop our States and region optimally instead of vacuously insisting others "hold us back" when we are the ones most responsible for holding ourselves back. It is like Africans lampooning the West while ignoring their own wicked and inhuman leaders who get a lot and give them nothing in return. The NDDC, headed by Niger Deltans, is one big house of scam and treachery against the Niger Delta. What then is the point for a Niger Deltan to think he would fare better under the same merciless looter in an independent Nation? what is the point of the Niger Deltan going around shouting that the Yoruba and Hausa man are his biggest problem when his own blood brother is mercilessly and directly stabbing him in the back?
PoliticsRe: Photos From Commissioning Of Mokola Flyover by Gbawe:
HNosegbe: Point taken.

However I was making a general point, which is that I do NOT believe in commissioning projects. Why spend huge amounts in organization, travel, lodging (in some cases), souvenirs (sometimes), and distribution of "largesse" to the crowd?

The report clearly says that Bola Ahmed Tinubu came in with a chopper, and went to the venue with a convoy. At whose expense?

Rochas Okorocha left Imo State, travelled all the way to Ibadan to commission a flyover. At whose expense?

The thousands of people who gathered there, are they there because they are genuinely happy with the completion of this bridge, or are they simply after some "largesse"?

We need to redefine governance in Nigeria. Staging grand events for the commissioning of common projects like this is backward and retrogressive in an age where progressive nations are sending people to the moon.

Only God knows how much was spent, and what other purposes to which those funds could have been deployed.

Thanks for the compliment.
You're welcomed. It is not exactly difficult to note those who are refined, liberal and sophisticated around here. With Tinubu, the unemotional truth is that the man is rich enough to use his own money for hiring air taxis. That is the reality even if it suits Nigerians better to think he use Lagos funds to service every activity he carries out. Politically romantic to think Tinubu even uses Lagos wealth to buy his toilet rolls but this is just ridiculously simplistic.

With Okorocha, what has the man done wrong? If invited to attend this ceremony, what is his crime for showing up? Do you know Nigerian politicians attend the most frivolous 'training and developmental" courses abroad where they receive as much as $20,000 in estacode (glorified personal cash to pocket) after their $5,000 tab for first class travel has been paid for by the FG "expense account"?

In reality, Okorocha is in his own Country and could have travelled to Ibadan inexpensively out of his own pocket. He has a deputy also always available to loo after the affairs of Imo in his absence. What is the fuss about? This is why, even with my disdain for the PDP, no one can point to me engaging in this sort of thing on Nairaland i.e knocking folks for how they choose to celebrate genuine and much-needed achievements.

We can have objections with the gathering but we cannot say it is wrong simply because doing so would mean guessing about so many things we do not have definitive information about such as who used private/public funds to attend the ceremony. This brings us, like an ALUU-type judge and jury plus executioner mob, into the realm of being unfair to others. This is why I would personally not and has never made an issue of this side of things even against PDP administrators when they are celebrating genuine achievements delivered.
PoliticsRe: Photos From Commissioning Of Mokola Flyover by Gbawe:
HNosegbe: Politics... the only profession in Nigeria where people are hailed to high heavens, parties and carnivals are held and roads blocked, simply because they're doing their jobs.

Nigeria is a place where a governor can spend more on "commissioning" a borehole than the actual construction cost of the borehole.

I wonder if the cost of this jamboree is not equal to the cost of the bridge.

Shaking my head.
Chief, you are one of the bright and , in my opinion, objective folks here and this is why I reply to what you write. These guys are delivering projects former PDP administrator said money was not available to achieve. We are seeing the revamp of major roads untouched for decades. We are witnessing ancient schools built during the days of Awolowo being demolished to make way for model modern examples. Ibadan recently, under Ajimobi, got it's first new market in 30 years!!!! If most Nigerians are secure and balanced folks, with goodness and goodwill for all in their hearts, we should all have no problem some want to celebrate genuine improvement replacing years of stagnation and hopelessness!!!

Why would anyone devoted to "live and let live" not understand that these administrators have earned the right, if that is even what they are doing, to milk some political mileage from this? Are they celebrating public urination or praising the delivery of much needed developmental projects others in the past flatly said "NO" to? Where in the world do politicians, by the very nature of their profession, not take advantage of opportunities to improve their political fortunes through their genuine successes?

I may dislike the PDP but I would never be petty enough to join issues with any PDP leader who chooses to celebrate the delivery of important infrastructure as he wishes. My reasoning is that, even if I personally find such over the top, the celebration is indeed related to delivered tangible infrastructure that improves the lives of the people.
PoliticsRe: Country: Oduduwa Republic by Gbawe:
@OP.

The SW does not need "Oduduwa republic" in this day and age and it may be separatists, consumed with atavistic instincts, who glorify the idea "Yoruba greatness" must be achieved at the expense of geographical separation from others. Those who just want the SW and all regions to thrive, and this would include most of the current crop of the intelligentsia in Yorubaland, know that every region only needs a few changes to aid the self-determination that will see us all develop optimally and commensurate with the efforts we are willing to put in to defeat socio-economic/developmental challenges.

We do not need a new nation to make the SW a developed region. We only need a few changes at the centre and I believe these changes will be seen if the PDP is defeated. For those who can shun emotion, and note facts and reality, it is obvious the SW is certainly one region that shows it is devoted to creating societies committed to the best interest of the majority and not a wealthy elite class alone. I stand to be corrected but it is only States in the SW that have introduced social pensions for the vulnerable elders in Nigeria. The mass employment scheme in the region is also indicative that a people-centred leadership is present in the SW. The commitment to socio-economic integration is also commendable. In short, the SW is on the right path and does not need to travel the circumference of a circle to get from A to B, as others want to do, when it can use the radius as a much quicker travel path.
PoliticsRe: The Next Iyaloja: Tinubu Upbraids PDP, Journalists For “flashing Rumours " by Gbawe(op):
take dat: cheesy
Amusing how Nigerians, like 'herded' animals, allow themselves to be whipped into an ALUU-type frenzy by rumours and unsubstantiated allegations.

This is what PDP excels at. Dividing and conquering Nigerians so they are distracted and unable to rise and challenge their misrule which involves receiving a lot and giving Nigerians almost nothing in return.

Their oga pata pata divides his body into ten parts when travelling so that each part can use the ten airplane he has in his fleet while Nations far richer than Nigeria have one or none.

It is such disgusting and ungodly largesse they are protecting when they 'blacken' Buhari, Tinubu, Ribadu, Fashola and others. Shame many Nigerians lack the sophistication to see what matters and note that some, to maintain their looting offices, are crudely exploiting their fears and biases.

How many of us, hands on heart, think Buhari can do what GEJ did in 2010 as revealed below? For all the noise against Tinubu, is Lagos not developing and is her Governor not universally acclaimed as one of the best performing in Nigeria? Oshiomhole puts Igbinedion to shame. In all SW States projects are being delivered that former PDP leaders stated could not be done because all money has been shared "no money available". Let Nigerians continue to rant and follow ethic/sectional alliance without engaging their brain. That will only prolong their suffering and 'imprisonment'.

"Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery none but ourselves can free our minds!" Bob Marley.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/mayowa-michael-adeleye/jonathan-slammed-over-luxury-jets-as-road-power-health-sectors-are-in-shambles-p/456883011030

Jonathan Slammed Over Luxury Jets, As Road, Power, Health Sectors Are In Shambles - PM NEWS

by Mayowa Michael Adeleye (Notes) on Thursday, 12 August 2010 at 09:05

President Goodluck Jonathan was the butt of criticisms this morning over the decision by his administration to splash $155 million, in one fell swoop, on three luxury jets, at a time when the nation is immersed in fresh mounting debts and when roads, health and electricity facilities are in appalling states.

Yesterday, the Federal Executive Council approved the purchases for two Falcon 7X jets and one Gulfstream G550, against the backdrop of a flight hitch Jonathan suffered on his return to Nigeria from the African Union Conference in Kampala, Uganda. The three jets will be delivered between the end of this year and next year, bringing the presidential fleet to seven. Each of the Falcon model cost $51 million, while the Gulfstream, a popular choice of the world's rich, cost $53 million. From P.M News internet searches, the three jets appear not to be overpriced as the government approved prices fell within the range quoted on the web sites of the manufacturers.

But critics are not assuaged by this seeming transparency, as they question the president's approval of such a binge buy for aircraft at this time when the nation has even chosen to borrow about $600 million to register voters and $3.5 billion to build a new electricity grid, nationally.
PoliticsThe Next Iyaloja: Tinubu Upbraids PDP, Journalists For “flashing Rumours " by Gbawe(op): 8:08am On Jun 27, 2013
http://www.osundefender.org/?p=106152

The next Iyaloja: Tinubu upbraids PDP, journalists for “flashing rumours as stories”


Two days ago, the former Lagos governor and ACN chieftain, Bola Tinubu, came under severe criticism from the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), as well as some social commentators, over allegations that he had disclosed during the 8-day Fidau Prayer for his late mother, that his sister, Folashade Tinubu-Ojo, would succeed his mother as the president of the Association of Market Women and Men in Lagos state.

The ACN publicity secretary in the state, Joe Igbokwe, denied the reports when it first broke saying “it is not true and can never be true. We don’t have time for that.”

Now, Bola Tinubu’s office has disclosed that the news was “simply a rumor and a wicked attempt to desecrate the memory of Tinubu’s mother.” They said that a careful review of the tape for the event would show that Tinubu did not say any such thing at any point during or after the event as is now being “salaciously bandied about in the media.”
The statement further disclosed that Tinubu never said a word during the entire programme.

“It takes very little effort to investigate whether Tinubu made such pubic pronouncement. Special tributes to the late mother of Tinubu were read by his Special Adviser on Media, Mr. Sunday Dare, while the vote of thanks was delivered by the Lagos State Governor, Babatunde Fashola.
“One would hope that journalists and bloggers would ask questions and dig a bit deeper before flashing rumours as stories. You cannot put a man in jail simply because you suspect him of something or because you think he will do something in the future.”

Tinubu accused the PDP of being on a pre-emptive strike.
“Their press statement should be seen that of a guilty weakling who is screaming and weeping, scared of vanishing into the nothingness they know they are.”

A source told The Scoop that indeed Tinubu never made the said statement during his mother’s 8-day Firdau prayer. The source however revealed that one of Tinubu’s sisters who had been acting for Madam Mogaji for four years due to the woman’s old age, might continue in that role. The source also told The Scoop that “PDP’s accusation that Tinubu had called for a meeting with the market leaders for Tuesday to break the news to them was clearly false as the former governor spent the whole day in Ibadan.
PoliticsRe: Lagosians In Modern Day Slavery by Gbawe: 7:52am On Jun 27, 2013
http://www.osundefender.org/?p=106152

The next Iyaloja: Tinubu upbraids PDP, journalists for “flashing rumours as stories”


Two days ago, the former Lagos governor and ACN chieftain, Bola Tinubu, came under severe criticism from the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), as well as some social commentators, over allegations that he had disclosed during the 8-day Fidau Prayer for his late mother, that his sister, Folashade Tinubu-Ojo, would succeed his mother as the president of the Association of Market Women and Men in Lagos state.

The ACN publicity secretary in the state, Joe Igbokwe, denied the reports when it first broke saying “it is not true and can never be true. We don’t have time for that.”

Now, Bola Tinubu’s office has disclosed that the news was “simply a rumor and a wicked attempt to desecrate the memory of Tinubu’s mother.” They said that a careful review of the tape for the event would show that Tinubu did not say any such thing at any point during or after the event as is now being “salaciously bandied about in the media.”
The statement further disclosed that Tinubu never said a word during the entire programme.

“It takes very little effort to investigate whether Tinubu made such pubic pronouncement. Special tributes to the late mother of Tinubu were read by his Special Adviser on Media, Mr. Sunday Dare, while the vote of thanks was delivered by the Lagos State Governor, Babatunde Fashola.
“One would hope that journalists and bloggers would ask questions and dig a bit deeper before flashing rumours as stories. You cannot put a man in jail simply because you suspect him of something or because you think he will do something in the future.”

Tinubu accused the PDP of being on a pre-emptive strike.
“Their press statement should be seen that of a guilty weakling who is screaming and weeping, scared of vanishing into the nothingness they know they are.”

A source told The Scoop that indeed Tinubu never made the said statement during his mother’s 8-day Firdau prayer. The source however revealed that one of Tinubu’s sisters who had been acting for Madam Mogaji for four years due to the woman’s old age, might continue in that role. The source also told The Scoop that “PDP’s accusation that Tinubu had called for a meeting with the market leaders for Tuesday to break the news to them was clearly false as the former governor spent the whole day in Ibadan.
PoliticsRe: UK High Commissioner Explains The £3,000 Visa Bonds by Gbawe: 7:59pm On Jun 26, 2013
You guys still wasting your time with the ultra-ignorant Afam4eva? When a considerable number of diasporans based in the UK are busy facing the responsibility of providing financial support for many back home in Nigeria, this joker is here telling us he feels sorry for Nigerians in Britain because of some deportee pals. Like someone said earlier, doubtful whether ignorant home-boy has ever stepped outside Nigeria anyway.
PoliticsRe: UK High Commissioner Explains The £3,000 Visa Bonds by Gbawe: 6:53pm On Jun 26, 2013
Afam4eva: Name me 10 NIgerian millionaires who made their millions in the UK. I've been trying to school you guyz but you're not receptive to learning.
This is the ignorant mindset and myopia of Nigerians and Africans that has seen you all develop society where a few are stupendously rich while the majority wallow in nauseating poverty.

Who told you making millions is the indicator of fulfilled living?

This is why many African nations remain backward. People like you are the 'talent pool' from which leadership emerge. Rather than shape society to work for the majority you are busy delivering models that leaves 1-5% filthy rich while majority live in abject poverty like animals. Your mind is not evolved and this is the case for many Nigerians. This is why you guys go around arguing you live better than others based on the inhumanly unfair societal model of existence you shallowly glorify. IBB and OBJ will step out of their mansion daily to be confronted by beggars everywhere. Ironic then if it is the two of them , from a nation of wealth for a few and poverty for the majority, who think they are better off than a Nigerian living in a one-bedroom flat in the UK who does not have to use a generator, buy his own security, dig himself a borehole, pay some of the most uncompetitive rate for phone tariffs, etc, etc.
PoliticsRe: UK High Commissioner Explains The £3,000 Visa Bonds by Gbawe: 6:40pm On Jun 26, 2013
jackbauersballs: Like I said earlier, there ARE opportunities but they are dwindling.

I'm aware that the IT market is moving,but how many other industries are?

There are more redundancies than recruitments these days.

Gbawe is talking about credit. Remember you need a down payment for a mortgage. Or that car.

Where most people struggle is raising that 20 or 30 grand you need for that new house.

With fewer and fewer jobs, and lowering rates of pay, coupled with loads if responsibilities, it's hard to raise the capital to leverage your good credit.

This is what I mean. Me and the Missus intend to climb the 1st rung on the ladder this year...and God it was so bloody hard getting the required funds!
Simply not true and this is an example of what I am talking about i.e making conclusions based on limited knowledge. If in London, look in the Metro paper tomorrow and you will see many car credit deals where the dealer pays the deposit. There are many "drive away with £99 deposit" deal but only for impeccable credit-worthiness.

With mortgages, 100% mortgages were available before the credit crunch and 5% deposit mortgage were the norm back then. Even today, Government is delivering a "help to buy" scheme to assist young people buy homes. Proactive young people could always initially buy together and share the financial burden. They can then go on to buy individually later when joint credit improve and perhaps appreciable gains in equity now gives a healthy amount that could constitute individual deposits when shared. Many way to approach things. Ultimately, even if you cannot buy, you can rent.

My point remains that you can be very OK in the UK doing the right things as even an average earner. The same is far from being true of Nigeria and I don't know why an ignorant chap like Afam4eva would think himself better than Nigerians in the UK becaus of a few deportees returnees.

https://www.gov.uk/government/policies/helping-people-to-buy-a-home/supporting-pages/help-for-first-time-buyers

Help for home buyers

Help to Buy equity loan
The Help to Buy equity loan scheme will provide £3.5 billion of additional investment to help people into home ownership. The scheme will help up to 74,000 home buyers, as well as providing a boost to the UK’s construction sector.

The Help to Buy equity loan is available to all those who aspire to own a new build home, but struggle to access or afford the repayments on a low deposit mortgage.

The government will:

provide an equity loan worth up to 20% of the value of a new build home, interest free for the first 5 years, which can be repaid at any time or when the home is sold
significantly widen the eligibility criteria for equity loans to ensure as many people as possible are able to benefit. The maximum home value will be £600,000 and there will be no income cap constraint
ensure that the scheme is open not only to first time buyers but also to all those looking to move up the housing ladder.
PoliticsRe: UK High Commissioner Explains The £3,000 Visa Bonds by Gbawe: 6:27pm On Jun 26, 2013
coogar: there are opportunities in the UK, jackbauer!
it's just that majority lack the information to get by. a geography graduate has already sold himself short reading a course like that - so he started his race on a back foot!

besides, nigerians tend to overestimate their potentials. are you aware £40k per annum salary puts you in the top 10% of the highest earners in the UK? i am very sure majority of the nigerians here against all odds are around the neighbourhood of that figure so why do people complain?
Thank you !!! Shymexx got it right saying that understanding the system is key. If you don't understand the system and insist on doing things in a way anathema to delivering success in the UK , then you may be in the 'wilderness' for decades. No one is claiming the UK is paradise, and indeed all Nations have their issues, but it is still a fairly decent place to live and work in for many legitimately employed folks.
PoliticsRe: UK High Commissioner Explains The £3,000 Visa Bonds by Gbawe: 6:16pm On Jun 26, 2013
50calibre: What? I don't even think you know what you are talking about. You call UK's population behemoth? When did 65 million become behemoth?

The UK is 22nd largest country ( population wise) but the 7th largest economy. The US is 5 times the size of the UK, but 3 times the size if UK economy, The UK is the 2nd biggest contributor to the EU and NATO, the 2nd largest giver of international aid.

Reason properly and stop spewing out nonsense you heard at the bar.
Man tire for the guys sha !!! It is like he just insists on being ignorant. He has said this same uncharitable tripe about the UK several times while failing always to accept corrections over his ignorance. This is the attitude that means many immigrants simply don't get the best out of their diasporan host nation. They think they know best. When they are not being incredibly rigid, they are trying to cut corners thinking they are "smart" and know best. When things then do not work out for them, they will turn around to proclaim the UK the worst nation on earth. They will never develop a capacity to note their own deficiencies and perhaps work to correct them so they get more out of a Nation that works differently to what they know and were used to.
PoliticsRe: UK High Commissioner Explains The £3,000 Visa Bonds by Gbawe: 6:05pm On Jun 26, 2013
[quote author=ShyM-X]Honestly, I think the UK vs. US thing is becoming redundant now. And it's funny to see the you're the only person who always like discussing this redundant topic - Nigerians in America don't care about the topic. You haven't even been to none of the two countries, yet you think you know more than everyone.

If US were as perfect as you want us to believe - how come the US has the 2nd(or 3rd) highest number of immigrants in the UK, apart from Poland(and maybe India)? What are they looking for out here?[/quote]Thank you !!! I don't know why Nigerians are never humble and willing to learn from others. It is always the most ignorant who will be very happy talking loudest and insistently pushing their ignorant views in public without reservation !!! Imagine dude saying he feels like giving returnees from the UK "his life savings" as if him and other Nigerians are better off than them. Perhaps there is something he is not telling us about the deportees returnees he knows.
PoliticsRe: UK High Commissioner Explains The £3,000 Visa Bonds by Gbawe: 5:57pm On Jun 26, 2013
jackbauersballs: I partially agree with you Afam

There are loads of opportunities but only in a few sectors.

It's really hard for young grads to get on the career ladder these days talk less of old heads.


One of the security guards where I work is Nigerian - he has a degree in Geography and a red passport but can't get work...so he's trying to get into the IT industry which seems to be booming at the moment.
Why do Nigerians always get simple things wrong in relation to living healthily? Afam4eva is talking as if every Nigerian in the UK is wretched, whereas this is simply not true, while you simply get issues mixed up talking about career/prestige/white collar jobs and such.

You guys only see things one way because of the patent materialism/bigmanism afflicting Nigerians and your talk about the guy now employed as a security guard, when he has a degree, is typical of this mindset. We are not talking about being a top-class technocrat and supercilious character. We are talking of folks living dignified lives when Afam4eva has talked as if Nigeria offers that better than the UK. It is outright false how the guy insinuate he feels like giving those returning from the UK money because, ostensibly, they appear "suffering". That is nonsense talk from a very ignorant fellow and we should ask him the sort of returnees he knows !!!! !!!!!

The fact is that even a Cashier at Top shop can live better than a bank manager in Nigeria. If said cashier earns £1,400.00 take home per month, they can share rent on a comfortable three bed house and pay £300 monthly as their own monthly obligation. Said Cashier can have a 2012 VW Golf that cost them £149.99 per month on credit. They can comfortably go to Asda, Tesco, Morrison, Sainsbury and shop with £50.00 buying quality, nutritious food. They can also have a reasonable social life and perhaps go on a sensible holiday once a year !!! What more should most people want out of life if not that Nigerians are materialistic people who think it is only someone living like our Senators who is "alive" and leading "a good life"?

I personally became a UK landlord, with a very healthy property portfolio today, understanding and working with credit. Ditto for my mother-in-law who is a UK midwife yet has a property portfolio worth over £1 million today. There was a Nigerian featured on a BBC documentary a few years back who became a docklands property millionaire via developing a property empire with credit. Dude had been a train driver before he thought outside the box !!!!! My own cousin drives a London bus for a living and own three Properties!!!!

Afam4eva should stop the ignorant talk in regards to a nation he knows nothing about. Many immigrants simply do not get the best out of the UK because of their own rigidity and shortcomings. That is why I respect what Shymexx said about understanding the system. If you come here insisting your path to success must be achieved through your academic/professional pursuit alone, then don't generalise if things do not turn out as you want because of your own rigidity.
PoliticsRe: UK High Commissioner Explains The £3,000 Visa Bonds by Gbawe: 5:28pm On Jun 26, 2013
Afam4eva: The same Afam4eva has seen American returnees who are hustlers, and illegal immigrants making it big in the US. It just goes to show that the UK is not a country of opportunities and the opportunities therein are limited to a select few. Mostly the British. That's why the UK is not the best destination for immigrants. The country is just as dead as third world countries in terms of opportunities. The only positive in that country is for people who want to school or visit. Other than that the UK is a 1st 3rd world country. I pity any NIgerian who lives there without anything tangible to show.
You simply don't know what you are talking about. You are very prejudiced and insist on wallowing in ignorance and perpetually making negative judgement based on scant or non-existent knowledge. Shymexx is absolutely correct with this summation "There are tons of opportunities out here in the UK if you can understand the system".

If immigrants don't take time to understand the system then that is their own problem. You cannot begin ascribing opportunities or the lack of it , in relations to Countries of the world, without taking in the peculiarities of each Country. When Texas alone is 3 times the size of the UK, does it then mean the UK has "less opportunity" when compared to the USA or will an intelligent person look at all issues to discern the entire picture while people like you will ignorantly tell friends "go to the USA because I hear it has more opportunities"?

I will say this and the successful Nigerians/Ghanaians/African immigrant in the UK will understand me totally. Good credit is king in the UK. It is the key to getting almost anything you want. In fact, the UK can be ridiculously easy to attain success in if you understand how to use the credit system that underpins life in the Country. If Africans don't wish to subscribe to this and will 'hot up' and destroy their own credit-worthiness because they think they are being smart not paying a £40.00 BT bill, then it is their own fault if they don't ultimately get the best out of the UK.

Let me tell your ignorant mind this: A 2011 Mercedes ML, BMW X5 or Audi Q7 Jeep is £200.00-£300 per month to me or my wife. Many employed folks, smart about their finance, can afford that if they can get insurance and can comfortably service the maintenance cost. To be able to buy same car in Nigeria is what your leaders loot the people's wealth for. It is what Nigerians rob, kidnap and kill for. In fact, your cash and carry Nation is set up in ways to encourage a few to steal the wealth of the majority. When the few getting away with doing this in Nigeria attain wealth, they will then get on some ignorant high horse, as you do, looking down at others from a Country where average folks have the chance to afford most good offerings of life if they take time to understand the system and do the right thing.
PoliticsRe: UK High Commissioner Explains The £3,000 Visa Bonds by Gbawe: 4:56pm On Jun 26, 2013
[quote author=ShyM-X]Not everyone is built to make it everywhere. There are tons of opportunities out here in the UK if you can understand the system and find your niche.

There's no perfect country on the planet, we all have to always endeavour to make the best out of every opportunity. However, security, good health care services, good infrastructures, electricity and food are a NECESSITY in life and if a country can't provide that, then there's no point living there.

Anyway, can you name any perfect country on this planet?[/quote]Thank you !!! This Afam4eva always says the most ridiculously ignorant things when commenting on the UK. There will not be many legitimately employed Nigerians living in the UK who can be worse off than 90% of Nigerians in Nigeria. That is hogwash from someone not exposed and not well-travelled to be honest. Perhaps the returnee Afam4eva knows are hustlers, illegal immigrants and miscreants.

Patently ignorant and arrogant Nigerians will never understand it should be about the majority having dignified lives (what the UK and most other developed Nation try to attain) and not about a connected and elite minority (perhaps less than 5% of the population) having stupendous wealth while nauseating poverty is the lot of millions. It is this silly attitude that makes politicians justify their thieving to themselves while they arrogantly look down on us "suffering abroad".
PoliticsRe: UK High Commissioner Explains The £3,000 Visa Bonds by Gbawe: 4:39pm On Jun 26, 2013
Chinom: NIGERIA ! NIGERIA !! NIGERIA!!! . I have lived in both places so i'm in a good position to choose. Besides human life is worth a lot more in Naija than in UK. YOU were hungry in Nigeria. Hence UK is heaven for you. Free money on the dole. I quite understand where you're comming from.
You're kidding right? Why do some of you say inane things because you are desperate to get the upper hand when arguing with others? Why not, if patently honest, stick to the truth to make your case while avoiding examples that make you lie senselessly? What you put up there ranks high as one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read.
PoliticsRe: PDP Meeting Was Futile - Anti-Jonathan Camp by Gbawe(op): 3:53pm On Jun 26, 2013
kaeto: wake up from your nightmarish dream, you want tinubu, ffk, buhari, and how are we sure same bode george will not join them if the tide changes. Fresh air all the way, say no to yoruba supremacist antecedents, say no to tinubu family cult, say no to buharism, say no to islamist extremism, say no to born to rule, say no to apc. We need one nigeria, where yoruba, igbo, hausa, nigerdelta and midbelt will all have equal right and fair play, no tribe is superior to others. GEJ all the way until 2019.
If some of you shed sentiments and sectional obduracy you will see what matters instantly. You always deceitfully reel off certain names when talking about the APC to frighten the gullible/ignorant folks and rationalise your prejudiced and discriminatory mien when the truth is that you are being very dishonest and disingenuous. The truth all of you biased and bigoted individuals will not admit to yourselves is that the APC, far more than the PDP, is host to some of Nigeria's finest, most detribalized, most intelligent, most publicly acclaimed and most effective/proven achievers. This is a fact for those who do not engage in self-deceit.

If you want to remain here shouting about "BokoBuhari", "dictator Tinubu" and "Mad FFK" please be my guest. It is your own nation that suffers and remains backwards for longer than necessary because of your myopia and sectional bias.

The best EFCC boss to date is a member of the APC. Ditto for arguably the best FCT Minister to date. In a nation of 36 Governors the APC can boast a far better ratio of performing Governors than the PDP. Utomi many touted as the best Presidential candidate in 2011 is a member of APC. You lot can keep fooling yourselves shouting "Ikimi, Ogbeh, Tinubu,"BokoBuhari" inanely but the pragmatically intelligent Nigerians, capable of thinking critically, will appreciate that those folks cannot divide themselves into a hundred parts to man every office.

It is the likes of Utomi who may be finance Minister while Femi Falana or Ribadu may become AGF et al. It is only the APC that can deliver and will deliver such appointments because the Party will likely chose appointees from its very good talent pool you guys always deny deceitfully and dishonestly. Whatever Tinubus faults, he has never backed away from empowering achievers. Ditto Buhari who we know, for all his shortcomings, will not flood everywhere with crooks and the same set of folks and AGIPs who have ruined Nigeria over the past decades and are petrified of the man.

This is why those who can transform Nigeria, and have shown they mean well for the Nation, walked willingly with their own two feet to join Tinubu and Buhari while you lot are here whipping up sectional hatred against them. Carry on your display of 'Stockholm syndrome'.
PoliticsRe: UK High Commissioner Explains The £3,000 Visa Bonds by Gbawe: 3:18pm On Jun 26, 2013
50calibre: How about discrimination from fellow blacks? I did some part time work for amazon in 2010, and got heckled constantly for not reaching target by our Zimbabwean team leader, while he smiled about with the white folks.

I got tired and quit the job.
Well, this is a problem also. You will find that Africans and black folks, in a work environment, sometimes constitute themselves into each others biggest problems- especially if they are the sort always seeking the validation and approval of white folks because they subconsciously deem them superior.
PoliticsRe: UK High Commissioner Explains The £3,000 Visa Bonds by Gbawe: 2:38pm On Jun 26, 2013
[quote author=ShyM-X]Sir, I know Poland is part of the EU but they've taken over everything. Perhaps, the UK needs to do something about these people. Most of them can't even speak proper English and they're racist as fvck.

My bad, I didn't see Ghana on the list. Thanks for that.[/quote]You're not wrong there. They are literally everywhere and one of the main group driving the underground economy robbing the UK of legitimate tax contributions. You're also correct that many of them are indeed racist but you will find this applies to most European.

An Italian who had migrated to the UK to work in IT had the nerve to tell my friend, a Nigerian IT professional, he does not understand how black folks can be made bosses in the UK. He was moaning because the district head of the large corporation they all worked for was actually a British-Nigerian technocrat. It just did not sit right with him that Britain "allow" so many white folks take orders from a black man. This is how backward some of these Europeans are. Nauseating really.
PoliticsRe: UK High Commissioner Explains The £3,000 Visa Bonds by Gbawe: 2:15pm On Jun 26, 2013
[quote author=ShyM-X]Topic:

I still don't know why people are coming out here, tbh. Each to their own. But why isn't Poland, Ghana, and South American countries on that list? I swear 1 in 5 white people that I meet these days is Polish lool. These non-English fools have taken over everything. Ghanaians are just everywhere like Nigerians. And South Americans have taken over South London.

They need to stop disturbing black folks - I honestly doubt we're up to 1% of the population.[/quote]Why would Poland be on the list when it is an EU member State? Also, Ghana is on the list with Nigeria.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/06/23/310481/uk-plans-visa-bonds-for-asians-africans/

Asians, Africans to pay £3,000 cash bond deposit for UK visa

Visitors from Asian and African nations will have to pay £3,000 cash bond deposit to enter Britain.
Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:28PM GMT

Visitors from Asian and African nations will have to pay £3,000 cash bond deposit to enter Britain, a report said.


The Sunday Times newspaper said the pilot scheme, according to which visitors aged 18 and over would be forced to pay £3,000 for a six-month visit visa, will target visitors from November this year.

Moreover, the money would be forfeited in case of overstay.

According to reports, the plans which aimed at preventing abuse of immigration rules in the country, will initially cover India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nigeria and Ghana.
PoliticsRe: Traders Grumble As Tinubu’s Daughter Succeeds Grandmother by Gbawe: 1:58pm On Jun 26, 2013
mbulela: QED. but remember smokes and fire.
Igbokwe has come out to deny this officially on behalf of the ACN. End of story.
PoliticsRe: Police Kill Abductors Of Bamigbetan (Lagos Council Chief) by Gbawe: 9:44am On Jun 26, 2013
Handsomeemmy: Ok... Now i understand, thank you for the clearification. No one deserved to be mudered in cold blood, no matter what, let justice prevail.
That is what I am saying. Of course those who engage the police in a shoot-out should be subdued. If killed in the process, then they asked for death by engaging the police in a gun duel. Anyone captured should (1) stand trial for their criminal deeds and (2) be pumped for information that may lead to greater crime prevention.
PoliticsRe: Police Kill Abductors Of Bamigbetan (Lagos Council Chief) by Gbawe: 9:08am On Jun 26, 2013
Handsomeemmy: are you saying the police should go in and arrest people having four AK 47 and some rounds inside? I guess if it were to be like that, we will be here mourning the dead of our policemen who placed their life on the line so that we will have one less case of kidnapping. My opinion
No. I was responding to the suggestion that the captured suspects should be executed in cold blood.

Good job by the police. They should go ahead and splatter the two remaining kinappers' craniums with a few well-deserved busrts of hot AK fire, after finding out who the head honcho is, so that he too can be turned into compost for agricultural soil enrichment.
PoliticsRe: Massive Looting In NDDC, As Board Members Get N999.5 Million Contract Each by Gbawe: 10:33pm On Jun 25, 2013
These looters are the real enemy of Niger Deltans.

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