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jess5: Very true. Instead of them to find the solution to the topic at hand, they are coming up with the ones that make it look like they are in support of Nigerians who go to the UK on visitors visa and never comeback. Or those that go there for complicated health issues without paying a dime.Thank you. Why go over the top speaking about issues that will make others think our leaders are arguing dubiously, ignorantly and out of context? Must we support their glaring error because they are defending us? You cannot work while on a visitors Visa. This particular £3,000 bond policy only affects visitors Visa. The law is very clear on immigration visa procedure for skilled migrant applicants and that is a separate issue not at all related to this situation. What is Dabiri-Erewa then talking about? Is she saying the Nigerians working in the UK medical field all gained employment while on six months visitors Visa that explicitly bans them from seeking work? An argument can be made on its own merit that the £3,000 visa bond is simply punitively unfair because it is a lot of money !!! Most Brits cannot even afford that themselves so why levy such on Nigerians? |
sultanemerald: i totally get your point. forget her not so smart arguments. when it comes to policies that affect nigerians. i become irrational. i always lean towards nigeria. forgive me.No yawa. I am behind Nigeria on this as well. Check my original post and you will note this. It should be easy to make a direct case of this being a very unfair levy. When Nigerians will pay for visa, ticket and get spending money together, it is unfair to ask them stump up a further £3,000 that will be held by the UK, probably bearing interest for them, for six months. Simply screen Nigerians and let them in without condition when they meet entry requirements, as done for others, or reject their application if you are not happy to let them visit. |
moodswing: This matter don pass your reasoning capacity. You are obviously trying not to confuse yourself, but failed woefully.Below is the relevant section reproduced. Why don't you tell us why she referred to those workers and illustrate the relevance of her doing so in relation to a policy targeted at visitors visa that explicitly prohibits employment of any sort for visitors: Dabiri-Erewa said: “Nigeria should adopt the principle of reciprocity. If they ask us to pay £3,000, lettheir citizens also pay N5million visa bond. |
sultanemerald: tell the fellow. some peeps are funny. a rep promoting nigeria is now labelled a ranter? God forgive you.Look, let us be rational. Those folks are not Nairalanders. The level they operate at involves using cogent and relevant argument to make your point. The visitor Visa targeted has no work permit attached so no need for a Nigerian politician to talk of the health sector of others. A UK representative will simply respond by saying a visitor who intends to return has nothing to worry about. They can point out that a visitors Visa has nothing to do with an employment based immigrant Visa which is what a sort-after medical practitioner would obtain. It would be easy for a British representative to patronisingly ask Dabiri-Erewa what her point is considering that no Nigerian working today in the British medical sector would have legally gotten employment while on a visitors Visa that prohibits them from seeking any form of employment in the UK while there. Please let us shun sentiments and tell our leaders to raise the bar when they must otherwise we will be affected by their poor knowledge and thinking. |
dabrake: @gbawe, i do like you a lot but I won't agree with you this time. at this point in time, you should be defending the interest of the average Nigerian instead of trying to score cheap political points.I did defend the interest of Nigeria and made it clear this is unfair. What I want is for Nigerians leaders to explicitly show the UK how this £3,000 bond is unfair and harsh for Nigerian visitors to the UK and not begin talking about things outside the remit of a visitors Visa. |
seunfly: Oh God!!! See wasted life of a graduate, master degree holder 4 dt matter, just because our leaders has stolen what belong to them.Tragic. Not making excuses for these guys but some of them are genuine victims of circumstances if you trace how they became involved in crime. |
ISBLIAC: He's guarding the president both physically and spiritually. I like that. |
Jakumo: Good job by the police. They should go ahead and splatter the two remaining kinappers' craniums with a few well-deserved busrts of hot AK fire, after finding out who the head honcho is, so that he too can be turned into compost for agricultural soil enrichment.Where will extra judicial killing get us? Anyway, congrats to the police but I don't think we should ever support them to murder anyone in cold blood. They cross the line doing that and are then no better than the criminals they should be bringing to book. |
ghananotnaija: Please no common currency with Nigeria involved. Nigeria will single-handedly bankrupt the entire West Africa. Keep Nigerian incompetence inside Nigerian borders.Can you people ever stop being petty? Nigeria would likely drive the success of the single currency all things factored in. You do not have to like Nigeria but don't talk ignorantly. But for yeye leaders West Africans would likely all be wishing to migrate to Nigeria same as you all queue under the balzing hot sun to get Visas to the UK and USA. |
Ogojohn: Chief Ikenua whose celebrated case led to the dismissal of former NDLEA chairman Lafiaji Over kick backs and some thousands of euro recovered from the drug lord which was not declared in court led to his disgraceful dismissal along with some of his top aids. He was also involved in another saga which led to the dismissal and prosecution of some staffs of diamond bank over the ONI AND GAS LTD account which they used to traffic illegal fund. As it is now. Mr Onochie is lying cold in the mortuary and the question his family and friends are asking. Is his death a natural cause or the state conspiracy or a business good sour.Read about that a while back. I think the guy was seriously ill anyway. |
Garri the 1st: "Unless the lord himself guards a city, it is to no avail that the watch men have kept awake".........I wonder why Col.Adegbe has turned prayer warrior when he should be gaurding the President. He must want that pay-rise badly ![]() |
druid06: Is it me or is the Nigerian soldier in the background sizing up Clinton's personal security?. He's like yeah, I can take this dude with just one hand tied behind my back... That is Jonathan's aid-de-camp Col.Adegbe. He always has that leering/mocking expression on his face. He messed up big though with eyes closed while praying fervently below. https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/392960_471926272880683_1022946924_n.png |
fpeter: Life na wa o, wetin do Bill Clinton?Shocking to see how Clinton appears to have aged rapidly. There was talks he had a serious medical condition but Clinton himself came out to deny it. Wish the dude the best sha. Many still rhetorically speak of him as the "first black American president". |
kq: Did you even read all that transpired above before calling him a dunce? He corrected himself and an explanation was put up about how etiquette provides that he will be called Senator if he had been a Senator before becoming President (not my words). Please show some decorum.Abeg, fashi the immature little troll. What Nairaland reveals to me is that Nigeria currently produces a lot of angry, cowardly, frustrated and unfulfilled youths who want to go around fighting everything and everyone on the net but will never physically confront the oppressors who emasculate them daily to the extent they are turned them into impotently hateful creatures. The guy who corrected me appropriately remained polite and gracious and it has to be an e-thug without manners making noise. Too many sad losers here. The thing is that their lives will still suck after logging off Nairaland. |
[quote author=vokal_guy]Thanks for calling that dunce out...[/quote]All these immature kids and their issues. Did you not note the mature talk between me and OP that did not degenerate into insults or name-calling at any stage? |
johnie: Was he ever a senator?You're right he was not. He was actually Governor of Arkansas before becoming President. I thought he had been a Senator but realise now I confused issues with his wife Hilary who had been a Senator. Thanks for the correction. |
Nigeria sha. The two are not even cuffed and appear quite relaxed sitting near their dead colleagues. Na wa. |
Kai !!! Some Nairalanders are wicked sha. Who is responsible for resurrecting this thread? Why embarrass Mr.President like this? I expect agents of Aso Rock will quickly alert our President about this thread and Abati will revise the new target date to 2015 ![]() |
loswhite: ppl like u will always feel inferior to other ppl that r richer than u.Thank you. Some Nigerians just insist on embarrassing us on the net by showing Nigeria as a place where people shallowly and blindly worship wealth and privilege. This is why leaders serially molest Nigerians yet most, like this character, continue to worship them slavishly. |
TheRealYemi: The freedom to express yourself freely does not include the right to spew out nonsense. Uncultured fellows like this who can not engage reasonably in civiised debate should be kicked out of this forum for goodMy good man, you have to get used to these e-agberos and cyber-thugs. Blame cheap broadband ojare. |
johnie: Ehem!Political etiquette means Clinton will always be regarded as Senator Clinton ,beyond office, and not President Clinton. |
payless: Bode George?Comical. Even a child knows that the "nest of killers" is poisonously divided. One stage-managed event cannot fool anyone. The impending implosion of the PDP is a very good development for the APC. |
Desric: Sometimes I wonder, if Nigerians are truly patriotic, what are they still doing with the People's Democratic Party. I don't see any reasonable person with Nigeria's Progress in mind having anything to do with this menace called PDP.Tribalism and sectional bias always muddies the water. Those who hated PDP with a passion under Yar Adua are now 'firm supporters' of the Party' because of one man never mind that the Party is very useless overall. |
eGuerrilla: This would not be the first time madam and her house committee on diaspora affairs is confusing the wood for the treesMy brother, I certainly hate how the West finds it expedient to humiliate Africa. They routinely and dismissively target us with measures they would dare not initiate against others. I have my own specific ideas of how we should target greatness and become a continent others will be forced to take seriously. Yet most Africans show no interest for what has to be done. They prefer reactionary sabre-rattling and sanctimonious preening. We are fond of empty noise. Britain should not do this but I think they will. If memory serves me well, New Zealand and others do this already. There is certainly 'something of the night' about the UK currently because anti-immigration sentiment now unites the nation palpably. We really should be up and doing in Africa but that will not be the case and everything, as usual, will take us by surprise since we always prefer to be sentimental and never circumspect, deliberate and measured. |
ogb5: She is talking about the health sector collapsing because she wants the british to appreciate the contributions of Nigeria professionals to the progress of the british society. Obviously thats not too much to ask for.I am not asking her not to defend the interest of Nigerians. Merely stating she should do it intelligently and not muddy up issues with bellicose talk that reveals she has not even taken time to understand the full picture. If a Nigerian applies for a six month visa to visit friends and family in the UK, what is the point of Dabiri-Erewa talking of collapsing anyone's health sector if that visitor is asked to pay a refundable bond? What concerns employment with this? Let us refrain from being sentimental with everything. Britain say they are targeting those who stay beyond their visitor Visa. We should therefore tackle the unfairness of the Visa bond on its own merit and with relevant argument. It should certainly not be a Nigerian political leader talking ignorantly when we need them to make cogent argument on our behalf. |
Why won't Tinubu not smile? This was at a ceremony to mark the reclamation of land for Eko Atlantic City. GEJ was praising the Eko Atlantic initiative same as Senator Clinton had also waxed lyrical about the project. That is why Tinubu and Fashola are grinning cockily like proud parents ![]() http://eftngr.com/opal/news/1-latest-news/2706-clinton-praises-atlantic-city-as-new-dubai.html Clinton praises Eko Atlantic City - it's the new Dubai |
eGuerrilla: But this is Madam Dabiri-Erewa's suggestion and not necessarily an official position of the FGN.I hope it is not because on display again from this Mrs.Dabiri-Erewa is the pugnacious ignorance many of our politicians work with. This is why they are found wanting serving the interest of Nigerians . The woman is garrulously misinformed with her chest-beating talk below because the Visa bond is for visitors i.e those not allowed to work while in the UK anyway. She should know "visitors" cover those who are meant to visit the UK and return within the stipulated time on their visa. I don't quite know why she is now ranting about the health sector of the UK collapsing. “If Nigerian and Indian doctors withdraw their services in the UK, their health sector will collapse. |
Not surprised at this move because Britain is becoming radically anti-immigration under Cameron. Not really sensible or fair, in my opinion, to ask visitors to cough up £3,000.00 as "holding deposit" that will then be held for the length of the stay of the visitor in probably an interest-bearing account. Some Nations targeted by this 'pilot scheme' have protested vehemently and it will be interesting to see whether Britain goes ahead with this in November. http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/06/23/310481/uk-plans-visa-bonds-for-asians-africans/ Asians, Africans to pay £3,000 cash bond deposit for UK visa |
Anti-Jonathan Camp Says PDP Meeting Was Futilehttp://saharareporters.com/news-page/anti-jonathan-camp-says-pdp-meeting-was-futile |
Eko Atlantic: Funny enough, the peanut they get after their whole display won't prevent them from going for the same thuggery job after they've spent all. Also, their thuggery doesn't guarantee victory for their lords.Non really. The sad thing, like someone else mentioned, is that the old men who put all these boys up to this have their children abroad in £25,000.00 per year private Schools. Look at Odili that armed young men for the sake of his nefarious political ambition. His children are safe and most likely assured a decent future wherever they are. If abroad, they will likely get good education that puts them in an advantaged situation. If in Nigeria, Daddy's 'connection' takes care of everything. |
Linoversace: ...Our heart feels for those of you who have become widows.Be rest assured that even in death,your manhood will continue to live on....Over! ![]() |
barcanista: If you are married, I'm sure your wife is an acute sadist and a radical critic. Beside is your mother more educated than Patience? You called her semi-illiterate yet the same semi-illiterate have Phds and Profs in her employ, the same semi-illiterate is the Most Powerful Woman in Africa, the Same Semi-illiterate is the Wife of the President and Commander in Chief who you, your father, your grandfather and your ENTIRE family are subjected to. Oya de there de chop your certificate, while Madam Semi-illiterate flex Aso Rock wey you NO GO EVER ENTER FOR YOUR LIFE...Lastly, the Semi-illiterate doesn't even have an idea if you existWhatever my wife is she is not an uncouth, loud and pugnacious semi-illiterate who delivers grammatical errors a 5 year old child would be ashamed to hear. Again, displayed here is the typical materialistic and supinely subservient attitude of worshipping money and power that has blighted Nigeria. So, being first lady means we are automatically all beneath her? Being first lady now automatically makes her better than learned individuals and achievers who are respected in their field of endeavour? Shameful backwardness. |
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