₦airaland Forum

teskyg: Prof.Ango Abdullahi is still dreaming.The North this time exclude Benue,Plaeau,Nassarawa,Taraba,Adamawa,Kogi and Kwara.Maybe you core Fulani states is what you politically refered to as the North.
Prof.Ango can also tell us what you have contributed to the Norhern Nigeria as a professor of Agriculture.Yes,Dokubu Made some scratching comment but we all knew who started making such comment.Prof.Ango,be reminded that in 2011,your friends.Kaita and Ciroma where silence forever.You are next.Demon

Dokubo-Asari is just a crude and unintelligent thug who knows many Nigerians are easy to 'program'. Him and others, fully engaged in the looting they pretend to be against publicly, understand they can whip up ethnic hatred, to secure blind backing, by appealing to the unthinkingly sentimental and feudal nature of Nigerians that makes them abandon common sense and rational decision-making.

Ask yourself why Kuku, Briggs, Asari-Dokubo do not base their argument on GEJ facing the numbers. Instead it is always threats delivered to bully the conscience of the world to help bypass democracy and back a coronation of GEJ.

As far as I am aware, and despite the "GEJ promised not to run" noise of Aliyu, no one is preventing GEJ from testing his popularity against other candidates at Party level. Yet, instead of preparing himself to do that openly and fairly, all we see is sackings (Oyinlola), impositions (Tukur, Anenih) and open harassment (Ameachi) that shows GEJ wants a 'throwback' coronation since the writing on the wall spell things out clearly to him.

Match that to the noise of Kuku, Briggs and Asari-Dokubo and it is clear we are once again being held hostage by Turai/Ibori/Aondoakaa 'part 2' episode. GEJ can never embrace the option of testing his democratic popularity because he know he will lose due to how he has alienated everyone, political peers and ordinary Nigerians at large, with treachery and grossly disappointing leadership respectively.

Sad it is sabre-rattlers showing the zeal to speak for both sides, wrongly in my opinion, in this cold war because those who are neutral and can see beyond the rhetoric would quickly note the erring side if issues were presented along purely democratic/political lines.

Nigerian political leaders must simply learn to keep emotions/sentiments in check and let the politics speak for itself.

If this were done in this case then it would be immediately obvious the blind backers of GEJ have not once mentioned democracy because they all know that GEJ will be disgraced if he accepts to test his popularity starting from the PDP primaries. They therefore issue threats due to how they want a coronation to defeat the democratic process that represents guaranteed loss for them.

Rather, it is the much maligned North , erstwhile held as "born to rule" and undemocratic, now challenging GEJ to democratically test his popularity.

If the North can rise above the pettiness of getting into the gutter with the clannish kinsmen of the President and make their argument political, instead of being drawn into responding unthinkingly with 'fire for fire' idiocy against those who know the cannot win at the numbers game, then they will simply blow GEJ out of the water.

Asari-Dokubo, Briggs, Kuku are counting on 'cashing in' on the negative image of the North by provoking bellicose reaction from a region often held as bullying and anti-democratic so that, in the ensuing chaos and mindless threats flying back and forth, no one actually realises it is the kinsmen of the Presidency who are anti-democratic elements , war-mongerers and troublemakers in this case -to suit their agenda of bypassing electoral democracy that represents 100% defeat for their 'free bank' i.e GEJ.


Every rational person will know I call GEJ "free bank" appropriately because that is what he is to the Kuku's, Asari-Dokubo's and other ethnic sabre-rattlers of the world while ordinary Nigerians, from all corners of the nation, derive nothing from him being/remaining in Aso Rock.

My advice to the North is that they should ignore the treats of Dokubo, Briggs, Kuku et al and focus on hammering home the message that GEJ should test his popularity democratically from the PDP Primaries. No established electoral structure/rules should be changed for anyone and no favours (hinted automatic "first refusal" for Presidency and Governors for example) should be entertained. Let GEJ, at every stage, democratically face the numbers and win if he can.

Intelligent observers know that the noise from the kinsmen of the Presidency comes from the glaring realisation that they will be soundly defeated by how democracy remains a game of numbers. This option of divisive threats and ethnic baiting is the deliberate strategy of folks who are fully aware of how, much as they want, they and their allies cannot go it alone to defeat superior numbers. What the man said below is what the North should focus on because when that is done consistently, team GEJ will soon be alienated, home and abroad, with how the entire world will notice that all the anti-democratic pontifications and threats are coming from 'team GEJ'.

He said, “Look, what I want to see is democracy in practice so that as many candidates who want to contest the next presidential election, including Jonathan himself, can do so freely, without being witch-hunted or harassed by anyone.

“In fact, I would prefer that Jonathan should contest and I can assure you that he would lose. And as far as the North is concerned, there are many credible and qualified candidates and, once a free and fair election is guaranteed, the people would choose who they want to be their president come 2015.”

tomakint: You must have been 'stalking' Papabrowne for long to arrive at your judgment on him! However, I am only disappointed in your response because rather than addressing the points he raised you choose to abuse and call him names as usual

Are you daft or is it that you just enjoy taking side blindly? I have simply exposed him even if you, as expected, see it otherwise. If you read, without prejudice, my previous post where I exposed him for the same thing he is doing here then you will not be saying the crap you are. He has done this same thing regularly and consistently to gain himself a reputation here as a dishonorable chap.

the likes of Dayokanu and others who have been here a while will tell you Papabrowne himself admitted to lying ("spin and spell" he called it) to aid GEJ's win in 2011. If you know someone is a liar and two-faced mischief-maker, you expose them and not indulge their mischief. Everywhere he shows up, unless he is being genuinely objective, then I will reveal his real motivation. As a proud and genuine south-westerner , not like some fakers, I know our horrid past and total stagnation under the PDP to be sufficiently annoyed when some, like your buddy, try and use mischief to mask their hatred that means they cannot be happy for others. I don't engage in such ever and , Like I said before, I am happy even Insincere9gerian put partisanship aside to admits that the current crop of ACN administrators are far better than the PDP miscreant they replaced instead of going down the discredited route of Papabrowne and other haters. Those sort are 100% one-way traffic of negativity against any positive news about the SW.

[quote author=I-B.]Why Brazilian firm? [/quote]Their tender may have been the best.

Ngwakwe: @Gbawe
If you want to know what political emancipation is, go to threads where Imo, Abia. Anambra, Enugu and Ebonyi States governance are discussed. Who are the active debaters? The Igbos from within and outside the States.

The South Easterners are not like you, who reserve your indifference to South West Governments while trying to convince Nairalanders of you unbiased critiquing of National politics.

Your epistles should endeavour to cover all regions without fear or favour for us to know that your intentions are for real and not ethnocentric.

When you appear neutral, your submissions will be taken for what they are without reading meanings into them.

The key to a successful political critiquing is fair and balance.

Dude, what on earth are you talking about? All I see, with the part in bold, are the usual divisive and clannish obsession with touting yourselves ethnically better than others and always pontificating to be, by default, the 'aggrieved'.

Your ethnic group (surprise, surprise) is the embodiment of "emancipation" , in comparison to others, and you "South Easterners", never mind the ugly notion of touting every South Easterner as same, are "Not like us". Meaning you are all one and the same , i.e full of everything good, in comparison to others. What is the definition of bigotry again? I would be happy to be tagged a bigot if folks like you will also accept being the same, proven 100% by your own talk, instead of stalking others hollowly accusing them of what you are glaringly guilty of.

Here you have the effrontery to accuse others of being ethnocentric when your writing unashamedly shows a mind obsessed with ethnic superiority and pretence. Even with a post you wish to use to indict others of "ethnocentric" leanings, you have only succeeded to show you are hypocritically far more guilty of that than others. Pathetic. You show here you have no humility whatsoever and perceive yourself, always and in every situation, to be blameless and better than others. Others are always the problem. Never you . Frankly, I don't care what people like you think of me same as I stick a finger up at a caucasian racist who will never think good of black folks anyway.

Abagworo: I resurrected this thread from the archive to disgrace those preaching ethnic hatred in Nigeria. Buhari and Yar'Adua were both Fulanis, Muslims and from the same State. It is clear that Yar'Adua was criticized as much as Jonathan by all and sundry and was also opposed without all these people singing ethnic jingles today. If Amaechi or Dickson oppose Jonathan, why then would someone call them a traitor? Was Buhari called a traitor for opposing Yar'Adua or Tinubu for opposing Obasanjo?

Thank you very much. We "hate" the SS because we criticise GEJ never mind archived Nairaland records showing we criticised Yar Adua and OBJ even far more. With all due respect to Nigerians, if I did not know beyond this forum, I would actually accept the postulation that puts the average Nigerian IQ at around 65 because of how people think and talk here. They are easily manipulated by the most crude form of divide-and-conquer I would be embarrassed seeing my 7 year old child fall for.

I personally spoke up here for GEJ to be made President during the dark days Turai et al held Nigeria to ransom. I attended the SNG protests in London to that end. I also attended a separate London protest against Obasanjo. I was at a London lecture Ribadu gave. Ultimately, it is about good governance for some of us and those who can deliver it - wherever they may be from.

Conversely, we will also criticise bad administrators wherever they are from. That said, can I ask what were the efforts of Dokoubo-Asari and his many loud mouth Nairaland followers back when GEJ was in 'bondage'? Today we are "enemies" and "parasites" merely for exposing that GEJ is simply another crude looter and gradualist with no visionary agenda for Nigeria. Man mi, callous Nigerian leaders appreciate how underdeveloped the minds of their people are. This is why they prefer dividing and conquering them as a way to hide their own incompetence while they loot massively and deliver poverty in return to all Nigerians including their own "brothers".

PapaBrowne: My People, performance cannot hide.
If there was performance, we would see pictures.
Not a single picture of a well completed road in 3 years.
There are pictures of Lagos.
There are pictures of Edo
There are pictures of Rivers( Amaechi's schools)
There are pictures of Akwa Ibom.
There are pictures of Enugu.
Even Imo, with Rochas just 2 years and there are so many pictures.

It is either there are no cameras in Osun State or there is no work to show.

I challenge the Aregbe supporters to provide just one picture of a well completed road so we can appraise.
At least Aviation minister has stayed less than 2 years and she has more than enough pictures to prove her worth.

Unrepentant mischief-maker, good to see you are still 'turning tricks' with how you 'forget' to add that there are pictures of Ekiti, Ogun and Oyo. You are daft thinking anyone will bother with you. Which sensible adult would give a paedophile pictures of a naked child? Which sensible Yoruba person would waste their own time providing you with pictures? It is like I have told you many times before, mind your own business. No one likes a mischief-making 'amebo' with an agenda of negativity. Instructive that even Insincere9gerian admits ACN governors are doing well.

mekaboy: Your are ignorant of both GHANA and NIGERIA political history. You contradict urself. There is no future without the past. The challenges we are facing in Nigeria today are problems from the past. It is the past leaders that are pulling nigeria back.

That ghana moved forward at all is because rawlings visited the past leaders and killed them.

I thought you did not want to talk about Ghana? My brother, I am not ignorant of any history and I am certainly not contradicting myself. The point remains that Lateef4me and others do not sound logical when, every single time, they are always dragging up the names of those with no government office, as deflection against the correct indictment of those presently failing the nation with the current political offices they hold.

lateef4me: So you want to make us believe there is no covenant two those two looters because you are a card carrying member of ACN,,gbawe you are beyond redemption !

God have mercy on your soul !

My dear brother, your soul needs mercy before mine. I don't go around talking like an illiterate about "mammy water" or fetish covenants and things that are hearsay. If you like, believe that Tinubu and Fashola flew into the forest with magical wings to take their "blood covenant". That is your own worry.

lateef4me: So you think GEJ can do. Something about[b] the blood covenant btw Fashola and Tinubu ?[/b] The deceit,looting of Lagos's treasury by Tinubu cannot continue indefinitely. Their secret will be exposed when another part takes over Alausa.....

For now,Tinubu is innocent until proven guilty !

You are not worth it. How can you be taken seriously when you talk of things they cannot know conclusively? Do you have pictures from witnessing the "blood covenant" between Fashola and Tinubu. Arrant nonsense. While talking inanity, then let me also add that GEJ, Anenih, Tukur and Allison-Madueke also took blood oath at a shrine deep in a Nigerian forest.

lateef4me: Hold current leaders accountable when the former leaders still hold on to reins of power behind closed door ?

Reasoning according to gbawe is so classic !

Why don't you tell current leaders to dismantle the deleterious powers former leaders control "behind closed door"? Do you appreciate how silly you sound? If you speak about Nigeria to non-Nigeria as you do here, they would wonder what joke your nation is to the extent current leaders, with all the official powers of the state behind them, can do nothing about the looting of your nation by "former leaders". Which ever way you look at it, the onus of current political progress fall on the official political leaders of today.

lateef4me: Another long epistle from dishonourable Gbawe......

I know you don't have the attention span or comprehension skill to read beyond one line so why not simply ignore what I write? The only "dishonourable" person here is you. Plus a coward and unmanly sissy to boot.

mekaboy: PLS WE ARE DISCUSSING NIGERIA POLITICS HERE.DONT BRING GHANA INTO IT TO DERAIL THE THREAD. WHEN WE WANT TO DISCUSS GHANA WE OPEN A THREAD FOR IT.

I will say what I want. In case you are too hateful of Ghana to get it, I used the nation as a contextually relevant illustration of a political point. If you cannot comprehend that then that is your own problem. Simple point is that Nigerians, like others, should learn to hold their current leaders, charged with improving their lives, accountable instead of childishly and foolishly mention others, with no government position, every time today's office holders are mentioned.

Others are sophisticated enough not to do this because they know it makes a mockery of those currently empowered, through relevant government positions, to deliver progress yet are not doing so. By the way, stop the attention-seeking antics of writing with capital letters. It shows lack of e-decorum.

lateef4me: @Gbawe,

Pls,face front cos I don't have time for your long epistle today . It's funny how you mentioned the likes of Anenih,OBJ,IBB,Madueke without including the name of your pay master Tinubu who is also among the plunder of our nation ,Nigeria ......

Some of you are such effeminate crybabies and whining sissies. Of all the posters here you mention me slyly and I respond only for you to now say you don't have time for me. What snivelling and unmanly manner of conduct is that even for you? Next time don't quote or mention me and I will gladly ignore you because I hate cowards, dishonourable weaklings and over-sensitive drama queens who think they are free to mention others and then cower weakly when they receive a response. Below, reproduced, is what you wrote that I responded to. Next time don't mention me and I will be more than glad to ignore you because you are not a poster I gain anything from.

As for Tinubu, why not show the government office he is in charge of that he is looting with to warrant you jobless folks obsessing about and mentioning him every second when GEJ, the current President, and his current band of government-employed looters are mentioned? It is as if some of you need to be taught how to think so you can make cohesive point and stop embarrassing your nation. You guys are so unsophisticated it is not even funny. When Ghanaians, for example, are talking about NDC corruption then they will mention Dramani Mahama and other NDC current office holder and not Rawlings. Simple reasons being that they are sophisticated enough to realise that if Rawlings is indeed stealing then he has not put a gun to anybodies head or used a Government position to do. Ultimately, it is about those in current government office stealing themselves and allowing others to steal. Tony Blair is raking in his money today yet Britons don't mention him as per the woes of the nation today. They look at Cameron, Osborne, Clegg et al. Ditto for virtually every nation of the world except in the case of Nigeria where any talk to compel current office holders to shape up is met by deranged noise of Tinubu, Buhari, El Rufai et al. Some of you need to get out more to appreciate how much of a joke you are.

lateef4me: I just can't wait for 2015 to come cos that election is gonna be a deciding election that will determine the corporate continuation of this entity called Nigeria....

One thing I know for certain is that the Yoruba in the West will be reluctant to vote for any Northern candidate even if Tinubu ,Akande and Aregbesola point a gun to their heads except the very few educated folks like Gbawe and co....

lateef4me: I just can't wait for 2015 to come cos that election is gonna be a deciding election that will determine the corporate continuation of this entity called Nigeria....

One thing I know for certain is that the Yoruba in the West will be reluctant to vote for any Northern candidate even if Tinubu ,Akande and Aregbesola point a gun to their heads except the very few educated folks like Gbawe and co....

I'm Yoruba and I will definitely be voting for GEJ cos we are comfortable with a supposed thief than a supposed terrorist....

The Era of North lording over the rest of our nation is over and election of 2015 will prove that as GEJ will beat Buhari hands down as SW,NC,SS and SE will follow GEJ

Mark my words very careful !!!

Man mi, you can vote for anyone you want. That is not my concern. Also, you can continue labeling others as terrorists and peddling the offensive stereotypes looters want you to believe all in the name of demonizing others to make themselves look a better choice.

Keep fooling yourself if you think all your choice should be made irrationally out of the sole consideration of preventing the North "lording over" you. That is how an entire nation that should think and act better, ended up with a bunch of crooks who capitalized on your anti-Islam and anti-North sentiments. If you think GEJ, Allison-Madueke, Anenih, Adoke Bello et al are looting less than the Yar Adua crew then I have a 5 bedroom Westminster Mansion to sell you for £10. We should be looking for those who will move Nigeria forward regardless of where they originate. If most think like you then Nigeria is doomed and maybe deservedly so because it can be argued you (look in the mirror) are the direct cause of your own suffering.

deletrue: Seun or my dear moderator, kindly go through this thread, and place it side by side with your rules, am convinced that there are so much that has gone against your rules. Waiting for your quick action against this individual otherwise, am very prepared to give him what he will never forget. Do not allow his name feature in this forum unless you are in total support of acn/apc.

Are you not ashamed of yourself? Why don't you illustrate the rules my post breaks? You think sucking up to the mod and begging them to ban others permanently will get rid of those you intolerantly want gone merely because you cannot control your own hateful disposition towards what they write? Beg all you want but no one will ban me and I will remain here contributing as I see fit. Work yourself up towards illness for all I care. If you are not suffering from a comprehension deficit, then you will know you are the rule breaker you accuse others to be. If you want pedantism then I will show you 2 rules you have broken.

1. Please post on topic always. Don't derail or tribalize threads.

You could report my post privately if you really had a case rather you prefer egotistically trying to derail the thread via posting off topic. What does you rant against a fellow poster have to do with the topic under discussion?

Also, with your empty treat below, are you not breaking rule number 2:

otherwise, am very prepared to give him what he will never forget.

2. Don't abuse, bully, deliberately insult/provoke, fight, or wish harm to any Nairaland member.

Finally, if you had the intelligence of a 5 year old you will realise how wrong it is to instigate intolerance against others, on a political forum, merely because of the political Party they support. That is the sort of intolerance that leads to threatening others emptily and wishing you could ALUU them. The mods should ban you permanently instead because you are nothing but a hateful and intolerant nuisance here attacking others instead of the topic.

Do not allow his name feature in this forum unless you are in total support of acn/apc.

[quote author=$£yi]Listing it won't change the intended mindset of ignorant members, anyone who is interested in the projects in Osun should make a trial in visiting the state. No explanation can be better than seeing it.[/quote]Don't mind him. Is this not the same forum where another hater, Papabrowne, claimed Fayemi was a liar when I opened a thread that stated how the Ekiti Government was building roads everywhere. As usual, despite Ekiti folks testifying in favour of Fayemi, Papabrowne and his crew of haters continued saying it was lies and demanding pictures.

When I then supplied picture, Papabrowne changed tactics shamelessly to try another avenue of belittling Fayemi's effort. Who wants to be wasting their own time proving anything to those sort as you conclude? Some should see the thread below to see the antics of shameless people. Look at the heights of shamelessness below:

After this on the first page from Papabrowne:

https://www.nairaland.com/930524/fayemi-turning-ekiti-into-huge

Papabrowne wrote:

In this digital age of high resolution cameras on every smartphone, if there are no pictures to prove it, then its a big fat lie!
I didn't read it, I wont read it and I don't expect anybody to read it as simple pictures without a single word would have made more than a thousand times more impact!!
Let the pictures roll!!

To the pathetic and nauseating U-turn below on page 4, when he should be apologizing, upon being shown pictures. Pure shamelessness and undiluted hatred. I always say we can all have biases and affiliations but those who are hateful to the extent they cannot even give credit where due are a different kettle of fish.

https://www.nairaland.com/930524/fayemi-turning-ekiti-into-huge/4

Papabrowne wrote:

For once, I sooo agree with you. There is much more to development than just building roads.

agitator: more reason why you shouldn't bother about the unity of Nigeria. Let us go our separate ways na, so that he can be choosing the perfect leaders for your SW development.

Why bother your smart head about others? We want out simple, Don't you people understand? So you people can progress in piece.

You raise this argument always yet why can GEJ not pave the way to get you out right now? What are your political leaders, i.e those with influential government offices, doing to get you what you claim you all want as a people? You guys have always made this vacuous demand as if every single member of your ethnic group desires same - never mind that the state of affairs on the ground (eg migratory/nomadic pattern) flatly show you are only into self-deceit.

[size=14pt]Let us put aside emotion,sentiments and empty braggadocio. I want you to answer me as an honest adult capable of speaking the truth. Is there any proof , from the real situation on the ground to show you are inwardly focused and politically united enough to be the ones to capitalise optimally on separation of Nigeria you ask for non-stop? If I insist I want to be an athlete, does it not make sense that I should be naturally fast?

Have you ever calmly and rationally researched the many examples history provides to note what those who ask for separation had in place already that indicates it would work for them or are you you just emptily using "separation" as a misguided panacea for all your woes[/size]

Why will GEJ, Okonjo-Iweala, Anyim, Ekweremadu, Your senators, Reps et al not bravely 'go there' on your behalf? Are they not holding real power and in position to agitate for what you want if indeed it is wanted by everyone from your ethnic group as you claim? Why , as usual, blame Yorubas for everything and talk as if we are holding you in bondage?

Even though many Nigerians fail to admit the truth to themselves and prefer falsely blaming others for their woes, anybody who is a realist and not into self-deceit will know that, given the reality today, the Yorubas have nothing to fear if everyone went their way and are given full control of the economic activities within their domain.

We don't speak for peace and unity out of any fear. We do it because we are pragmatic and realistic. The centre controlled by Nigerians from all ethnic groups, to include your "virtuous brothers" you think back the separation ideology you tout hollowly, will never back the break up of Nigeria !!! If not, then there should be no one moving us towards separation more than GEJ !!!! Yet he flatly rules out SNC and ignores all attempts, called for by even the SW, to reconvene Nigeria along a genuinely federal structure that will devolve power away from the centre to make States and region more independent and able to develop optimally commensurate to the desire of their people. Yet you are not honest or self-critical enough to blame GEJ for keeping you united with your "enemies".

When the politically pragmatic folks of the SW note this 'prison' the centre, consisting of politicians from all ethnic groups, has locked us in, what is the point hollowly shouting "separation" when there is no chance of that happening unless the FG sanctions it or we go to war for it? Is it not obvious, with the PDP voted out and with the idea of regional integration, that the SW has decided to make the best of a bad situation instead of shouting "separation" when that will never happen as long as the greedy centre benefits from how things are?

If this forum hosted honest, pragmatic and genuinely analytical folks, from all regions, it would be clear the SW has absolutely nothing to fear if we separate. Use this awful forum as a template for example. Do SW posters lack ideas or lag behind anyone here in terms of the discussion of analytical politics or developmental issues? Get real dude and face your own leaders to give you what you want. Stop blaming an ethnic group, fair to all in their land as proof of their decency, for a situation all Nigerians have contributed to and continue to perpetuate. You are not "innocent victims" in anything ,as you continue to deceive yourselves, and the antics of your political leaders show this.

[size=14pt]Stop blaming the Yorubas for all your problem. In a very flawed Country, we cannot do more than we are doing currently by being a constant voice for peace and a sane part of Nigeria where all religion and all men co-exist peacefully and without persecution or discrimination.[/size]

ochukoccna: Like Gbawe said,is it that Nigeria now lacks men of vision and ideas that the likes of Dokubo will be saying such imbecilic utterances
While many are pointing the finger to the north and laying the blame on them,it points to a failure of the intelligence agencies
Why were Atiku and Ciroma not invited for a chat then?
How come it is a militant gunrunner who is speaking on behalf of Jonathan and the Ijaws?
Is this not a pointer to the class of people in that part of the nation
I've always stressed and repeat,THE SOONER WE CONVOKE AN SNG to deal with our ethnic faultlines,the better
For those e-fools beating the drums of war,Rwanda and Yugoslavia will be at best wars fought with toys compared to what will befall 9ja

Man mi, a dangerous trend is now emerging where many are failing to see the wood for the trees because of the division and bad blood GEJ is deliberately creating to fire up 'herded' elements who cannot think critically or allow reality , as we are all seeing it transpire, to shape their views.

When the worst happens and Nigeria is mired in chaos, some will begin revising history fraudulently to blame the SW when we are all witnessing , in living colour, those heating up the polity, pushing us close to total chaos and being supported clannishly by their kinsmen.

We should be inspecting the real actions and conducts of Politicians, if politically sophisticated, yet most many Nigerians are blindly indoctrinated in the hatred of others to the extent they make the wrong folks their enemies while supporting those , in their very own backyards, who are firmly part of the problems deepening their woes.

Let us look at issues with on-the-ground reality and fact since everything is now so sectionalised many Nigerians don't even bother to inspect issues correctly. They prefer to lie to themselves, make enemies of the wrong folks and just lash out and criticise according to sectional sentiments.


In the North, terrorists are becoming the masters to be feared and deified. In the ND , militant are the new owners of the Manor. The politicians Nigerians know and blindly support deliberately created that. Meanwhile in the SW, Tinubu, even if many not from the SW prefer to lie to themselves and hate the man vacuously, has embraced a policy of neutralising the damage OBJ did by relegating the Adedibus, Tokyos and criminal elements to the background so that men of ideas lead society and encourage other who are similar to come forward. A 100% guaranteed template for development. That alone makes him very fit to comment against the criminalisation of Nigeria the GEJ's, OBJ, Anenihs, Atiku et al favour.

let us Look honestly at the real actions of GEJ, OBJ, Odili, Tinubu, Atiku et al, influencing Nigerian lives now and for the future.

Is anyone forcing GEJ to reshape the ND under a "might is right" agenda? Following on from Odili arming unemployed and disillusioned young men, creating killers and kidnappers like Soboma George, GEJ is giving them business, political and societally influential power. Is it commendable Northern politicians have created a big problem for Nigeria with how violent element now have the clear signal they can kill and threaten Nigerians while government encourage all of us to be cowered and begging?

What are Atiku and OBJ doing when not seeking political relevance? Have they ever been known to invest their time, money and effort to support the political ascendance of the brightest brains to move society forward?

Meanwhile Tinubu is one of the few prominent politicians doing the right thing by his region and Nigeria to promote peace and order. Why should he then not comment when he sees others openly or tacitly endorsing the criminalisation of the Country? Has he not earned the right with his real actions, even some hate him, to comment?

It is a pity Tinubu is always rounded on emptily by a people who no longer know how to think critically and put issues in perspective. I pity Nigeria. Whatever Tinubu's fault, and for those who see clearly and never lie to themselves, it is crystal clear that his actions locally show Nigeria would be better off if many others had his type in their region. Even with all our problem, how can Nigeria fail if the meritoriously deserving are supported into office and then replaced by others like them? Is this not what is responsible for the progress the likes of Botswana and Ghana are credited with making?

How can some Nigerians, if mentally balanced, attack someone following that method while they support those empowering the Asari-Dokubos, Tompolos, OPC et al?

It is to be seen if the North can recover from the terrorism its politicians are sponsoring or if the ND will will not be mired in bondage for decades with criminal elements holding sway everywhere due to how GEJ is determined to follow OBJ's example of sabotaging one's own homeland.

The Tinubu these hateful loudmouths can all learn from, if they are critical thinkers, is the one they bone-headedly make enemy numero uno - not those bombing Nigeria to smithereen or those empowering militant warlords, worthless war-mongers and militia groups everywhere. What is clear is that, in the madness called Nigeria currently, Tinubu is contributing with his real actions - never mind the lies - to make the SW a region of comparative sanity. Same cannot be said of most of his peers across Nigeria who are destroying their own land and the future of their own children deliberately for selfish and short-lived gains.

[quote author=$£yi]That is why it is not advisable for viewers to reach a conclusion based on people's posts read on this forum. Most people comment on issues they have little or no idea of. I was amazed at the amount of projects going on in that state and thought that had it been previous governors of that state did half of what their present governor is doing, that state shouldn't have been in the condition it is presently. But it is never too late, I'm impressed with what I have seen in the state.

Ignoring comments and posts from ignorant members on this forum is essential, the only reason I'm posting is because of your reasonable post.[/quote]That is number one. Most importantly is that many here comment negatively and deliberately, with lies, because of the sectional hatred and bias that motivates virtually all their utterances here. Go and look at the previous comment of everyone who has commented negatively on this thread to note what they are i.e unmitigated haters (either along ethnic, religous or Political Party affiliation) who don't know where to draw the line.

Personally, I may not like the PDP at the centre but I draw the line at emptily delivering negativity against PDP administrator deemed to be delivering for their people like Chime, Lamido, Akpabio et al. It would be good if others, even if they dislike the Yorubas/ACN/Moslems, can do same but sadly creatures of hate have no reverse gear. Just check their previous post, as I give one example below, to note this. As long as end-users and stakeholders, in Nigerian States, are seeing progress then the lies of haters matter nought. You are totally correct about ignoring these hateful fools.

https://www.nairaland.com/1282456/yoruba-may-determine-wins-presidency/2#15620930

Omexonomy wrote:

yes she is married to yaruba monki

Tinubu is entirely correct. It is especially important for men of ideas and intelligent social observers from the ND to take GEJ to task severely and robustly for the sake of the future of the region because they, for many decades, will bear the brunt of GEJ's current agenda involving the empowerment and elevation of militants, oil bunkerers, scammers and criminals everywhere. This is why the likes of Asasri-Dokubo are now emboldened to insult the sensitivity of Nigerians.

In serious nations, the criminals, violent thugs and war mongers remain underground or have their head beat down when they raise it above the parapet of decency. It is another sign of failed nationhood that any common criminal can come out to openly threaten ordered society and the interest of the majority. It is in Somalia and Afghanistan you will see warlords, war-mongers and violent men lording it over what should be ordered society driven by minds with ideas.

Nigeria, under GEJ, is becoming like those nations with how men like Shekau (Boko Haram leader) and the likes of Asari-Dokubo are allowed to thrive and disturb the nation with their violent minds and divisive/incendiary thoughts. It is a direct measure of GEJ's Presidency that we are going through a 'criminalisation era' whereby those who are deviant, aberrant and a threat to what is best for society happen to be the ones now being empowered by commission or omission. It is the story of Somalia et al and all sensible Nigerians will do well to condemn this mad and ugly trend.

[quote author=naijaz_own]I don't sincerely believe in Soyinka's style of activism (siddon-look-talk-clean-mouth-yawa#happen-i-flee)...It speaks a lot of cowardice (Apologies).
Naija no dey war situation, we just have a government who's slow to react to various oppositions or simply can't stand d pressures from d opposition.
#Gbam![/quote]Reveal yourself and show us what you are doing for Nigeria that makes you fit to judge Soyinka. As simple as that.

This toxic hatred of Okorocha is pathetic. The man made a political choice yet some people are acting up like little kids. "He has joined terrorists and betrayers" and such garbage. Are some of you for real and do you live in the real world? Let the man be and grow up !!!

It is not every single damn thing some of you must make a "for us" or "against us" situation. His joining APC does not make him different to the Okorocha same hateful folks once passionately touted as future president here. Behind this vilification of Okorocha is the immature and extremely clannish thinking he has "joined enemies to fight his brother". No less has been said as automatic reason for why Amaechi should drop his VP ambition. I can only urge you people to stop being so clannish, one-dimensional and herd-like. It is nauseating to witness.

Okorocha has what many of you haters and losers will never have. The pragmatic intelligence to realise that you need others in life - especially those who are still legally your fellow countrymen and women. He knows that others are simply not there to hate, vilify and attack 24/7. Okorocha is not a bitter element like you losers who only know how to look backward in hate and the belief of fighting everyone to a standstill plus irrationally viewing them as " enemies" unless they have originated from same hamlet as you. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves because you are pathetic, ill-exposed and totally unsophisticated !!!!!

We don't expect Turai to say otherwise. Nonetheless, she must be careful revising history - recent history at that too. Yar Adua did not have "focus" as she claims. Yar Adua did not acquire aliases like "Baba go-slow" for no reason. His Presidency was typified precisely by a lack of focus, lack of direction, the open promotion of corruption and other unsavoury qualities. My own conclusion is that Nigeria would not have been different under Yar Adua in the way Turai indicates.

esperiense: Smh 4 nigerians! GEJ isn't halfway into his tenure and we are already fighting on the next tenure. Why will he not join in the fight and leave govt responsibilities. And u toothless biafrans u always fight everybody, that's anti-progress. I wouldn't be surprised if u bcom more marginalised and humiliated in the succeeding govt.

It is like the classic argument of whether the Chicken gave us the egg or vice versa? How can Nigerians not obsess over the next election when politicians themselves talk and plot about nothing else?

funnyx: Could you please desist from quoting me you deluded lost souls? you called me a bigot yet you have no proof, you claimed to choose your word carefully yet all your posts proves otherwise. I have told you before and let me remind you again, I DOT NOT ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO HAVE PROVED TIMES WITHOUT NUMBERS THAT THEY ARE INCABLE OF REASONING LIKE HUMANS SO PLEASE WAKA PASS.

My man, like Dayokanu advised, ignore him. Every one here knows what he is.

gerald09: I fink its time put into constitution a rotation for presidency dat way it reduces the ethnic rivalry. 1 part of the zone provides 5 candidates and the rest of the zones get to vote 1 out of the 5 for president, the VP are selected by the candidates from the other zones and the senate president would be selected from the zone that is next in line. After 6 years. For example if it time for the South west to rule they provide 5 candidates then each of the 5 candidates selects a VP from either the SS,SE,NC,NW and NE. After the SW have finished its 6 years single term its becomes the turn of the SE n also the senate president comes from the SE b4 the SW tenure is ova n it continues like dat, dat way every part of Nigeria gets to rule. This tribal hate will neva stop until Ѿε̲̣̣̣̥ learn how to share dis country, this same hate happen in the past and Ѿε̲̣̣̣̥ lost over 3 million Nigerian, I don't want to see the children suffer cos their parent are covered in greed.

I disagree. The real problem is herd mentality, underdeveloped minds and severe lack of sophistication. I.e the inability of Nigerians to think, reflect deeply and establish themselves as individuals. Those kind of people will always be susceptible to divisive, crude and unsophisticated characters like GEJ, Dokubo-Asari et al. Look at how Berem is being upbraided here for having her individual opinion contrary to the 'herd'. For those who don't have full independent control of their minds - and this would be a lot of Nigerians in my opinion - certain primordial instincts are heightened under certain conditions/characters.

Ethnic rancour is high now because it is subliminally and openly encouraged by the present government and its minions respectively with many Nigerians not aware they are being manipulated, exploited and goaded. How many people know that marketeers and lobbyist deliberately engage psychologist who help them use certain language in pertinent literature to get anticipated and automatic reaction from the unthinking public that favours what the 'code writers' are trying to achieve?

Trust me, most people respond to the examples of societal 'leader', whether they be entertainers or politicians, far more than they know. When Nigeria gains a truly classy President, who is deep in ideas and humanity, then there will be less focus on ethnicity . The right President, by his own ideas, sophistication and focus, will automatically raise the bar to force Nigerians to do ideas.

myola: And jesus as not passed on ? He lives in ajegunle abi ?

Abi OO. Were Jesus and Mohammed not "mortals" too and could Christianity and Islam not have been the creation of the imagination of men? This is one of the most classic signs of lack of critical intelligence and poor exposure. I.e frowning upon the religion of others, whatever it is, to claim one's own religion is superior.

This is the cause of many headaches of humanity from the past till today. That is why some of the brightest men in the world are atheist or apathetic towards religion. Look at African nations. Many are over-religious to a fault yet they are cesspits of corruption, evil, savagery and the sheer wickedness of man towards his fellow man.

AbdH: But she didn't write the article now.

In some people's book, quoting a Yoruba person without using insults and vituperations means you must be "closeted Yoruba". A bit like a white racist claiming other caucasians are black on the inside merely because they don't wish to join them in denigrating and hating all black folks blindly and unreasonably. Or vice versa as we see on this forum i.e racist black folks quick to label any Nairalander who has no problem with white folks as "Uncle Toms" and such garbage.

Nothing indicates those who are maladjusted and losing in life than the desperate desire of these types to insist others must dump their individual opinions, perhaps formed from positive experiences, to join their 'herd' cause that lends itself only to the crude stereotyping and hatred of others. Classic hallmark of the loser with no achievement or greatness linked to his individual name. Attaching himself completely and misguidedly to the pack or herd, while losing the ability to reason independently, is everything to these losers.

berem: Bros thank you o jare! you will live long.

Meanwhile, you contribution and the likes of other Yorubas will be highly appreciated by me.

I speak based on the assumption that GEJ will eventually emerge the PDP candidate - a situation I very much doubt will materialise. Personally, for the SW, I think it will boil down to the perception that GEJ has been a disappointment. The SW owe GEJ no automatic ethnic or sectional support and I expect many to view GEJ's 2015 ambition dispassionately in relation to how he has done up to 2015.

GEJ is no longer an unknown entity with plenty of goodwill behind him as was the case in 2011. Generally, and in free and fair election, the SW has a history of poor tolerance for woeful leadership. Unless drastic changes happen, GEJ will certainly get far, far less vote from the SW than he did in 2011. Any APC candidate will be the beneficiary of this lack of goodwill towards GEJ if the APC get their candidates and grass-root mobilisation correct.

Popup Blocker: So what was all that fresh air bullshid about if he was simply going to revert back to obj's treatment of the SW?

The "fresh air" ruse was to deceive the entire nation and not the SW alone. Believe me, I am no fan of GEJ and certainly not seeking to hold brief for him here. My point is that he has been no worse to the SW than OBJ and Yar Adua. GEJ is just a typical PDP President as even defined by the USA. Nonetheless the truth has to be told. GEJ, in my opinion is merely shallow and indifferent to the SW but I am yet to see proof, considering he is not doing much good for the ordinary folks of any region, that he is worse to to the SW than others like OBJ. OBJ was very vindictive and malevolent towards the region. Let us never forget that.

I certainly don't like GEJ as a leader and don't think I ever will but I won't revise history to put him ahead of OBJ in terms of wickedness towards the SW. At least, even if done in the spirit of self-preservation and self-ambition, we can say GEJ contributed to the SW gaining a better crop of leaders now moving the region forward. OBJ , in his supreme malevolence, will never have allowed that.

Popup Blocker: [size=18pt]Of course

If Yorubas hadnt divided their votes between GEJ/Buhari, giving Buhara 99% of their votes, you think GEJ would have won? LOL Comedy

I doubt SS would vote for a SE presidential campaign like the reciprocal in 2011

And I also doubt more than 20% Yorubas would vote for GEJ in 2015

GEJ has done much for the SS/SE, yet he ignored the SW........ my people need to watch this man and his "dusty air" antics come 2015

Yorubas, make no mistake in 2015. Yoruba ronu. [/size]

Can it really be stated authoritatively that GEJ has "done much for the SS/SE" if we are talking about ordinary folks and not militants, cronies and bootlickers, recipients of political office, fuel subsidy scammers, oil bunkerers and sycophants? As for the SW, and despite the hollow noise of "marginalization" by Yoruba disgruntled PDP element, GEJ has done no worse to the region than OBJ and Yar Adua and sensible Yorubas know not to expect anything of any PDP President wherever he hails from. It really is time we look beyond ethnicity to seek out the sort of President who can take brave and far reaching actions and decisions that will transform Nigeria drastically.