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andresia: To what purpose is this thread?OP is not a tribalistic poster and you need to cool it. Read without bias to note that the article is purely political in analysis. |
Glad Soyinka, a well-respected individual, has now added his protest officially to the increasingly dictatorial abuse of office and power GEJ is supervising merely for parochial political gains. If GEJ carries on like this, then he is surely on his way to becoming a much despised Abacha-like figure with an assured disgraceful ending. |
ojofu: Mr president, part of your job is to ensure that corrupt people are prosecuted and not to point accusing finger and walk away. For christ sake your government has all the power to prosecute anybody that is corrupt. saying that corrupt people are pointing accusing finger at you shows that you are either a weakling or corrupt, maybe you dont give a damn.Totally correct - and this is how any sane person and exposed adult, genuinely deserving of being called an adult, will see issues. |
[quote author=Frank-C]@Gbawe, we know where you stand. You 'strongly believe' that Tinubu and Fashola are not corrupt. No? That alone give you up for who you are...[/quote]No. You don't know where I stand because you and all GEJ fans are liars with a personal bent for mischief. You only see "for us" and "against us". Once you crudely identify those two markers, then everything, to include fact, logic and truth, fly out of the window. You will distractingly and foolishly talk about the opposition every single time, in relation to every issue, as a daming indictment of how you lack fundamentally sound reasoning. Whereas citizens of politically sophisticated climes will naturally wonder why your President simply prefers pointing fingers than ever bringing anyone to book or attempting to bravely confront wrongdoers. I think most of you are simply not exposed or even minimally sophisticated. This is why your ilk , with issues concerning only the President with the office ultimately empowered to make a difference, prefer inanely shouting Buhari, Tinubu, Fashola, El Rufai et al. This is not done elsewhere in Nations where directly empowered leaders are held directly responsible. You people have no shame. |
@OP. Totally correct talk. Furthermore, Nigeria too, for optimal national progress and desirable political evolution, must join nations that have developed with the universal template of leaders being elected to and remaining in office because the electorate, at all level, back them. At the end of the day, the likes of Asari-Dokubo are mercenaries and crude noise-makers not to be taken seriously at all. Like I said elsewhere before, and as a keen student of history and procedural evolution, GEJ is likely to be the last 'accidental' President Nigeria ever has. |
Tigerhead: Does what you wrote even make sense to you? GEJ is both indecisive, impotent then ay the end of the sentence he is in a haste and has urgency of purpose.Those with no comprehension deficit will not be confused as you obviously are. Learn to deal with your own deficiency first before coming here to make a fool of yourself by exposing that you don't have the mental capacity and educational nous to properly interpret what is written. |
Sincere 9gerian: Maybe the president was indirectly referring to Buhari, Tinubu, Dino Melaye, El Rufai and coCan you listen to yourself? Every time you talk, I discern the attitude of someone very much amenable to cowardice and a propensity for blaming others over his own deficiency. If you were not that way inclined you would find it impossible to say the above in defence of GEJ who is always talking like a powerless, impotent victim rather than the President of Nigeria given all the tools to deal with those who threaten the interest of the Nation. No teeth at all to bite the corrupt elements and sponsors of terrors he will always nebulously hint at knowing. All GEJ does is point fingers childishly and impotently from afar yet Nigeria never see him move decisively against anything/anyone worsening corruption, terrorism and crime. Hypocritically, he can hound Amaechi, Sylva or political opponents with alacrity or move with speed to deploy the Army against Nigerians. Never such haste or urgency of purpose against overtly corrupt elements (fuel subsidy scammers for example) and sponsors of terror. Shame on you and the immoral messiah you worship. |
Yorubaman40: So, it is mear concidence that immediately jonathan was declared the winner in 2011 every southerner/christian became easy target. It remains a pitiable fact that in this century a former president such as Buhari will still be giving a baboons- soaked -in- blood speech to the country.He was asked by BH to negotiate for them.He was fast to support amnesty for those comitting murder. His speeches from time to time is violence-inciting. His speeches were enough to deploy the hopeless and illiterate almarajis to blood letting. He is a notherner who knows how to exploit the weaknes of d almarajis.Before you responded to the man, did you not read this from him: (no rumours please, just facts)What exactly have you supplied above if not rumours and conjectures? Can you do facts at all? For example, can you show any money trail of Boko Haram sponsorship leading to Buhari? Any wanted Boko Haram terrorist found in his house? Is he in Government to be covered by the statement of GEJ, the Commander in chief of the Nigerian armed forces, that "Boko Haram has infiltrated every level of my government"? What happened to Zakari Biu? No less than Azazi, a whole NSA paid to know these things, said PDP is behind Boko Haram. Can you kindly tell us when Buhari joined the PDP? Those are the sort of facts asked of you. If such cannot be the cornerstone of your arguments, then you are simply another forumer overcome by personal bias, emotion and sentiments. Non of what you write can even pass for circumstantial evidence in a Court with jurors all aged 6. |
creserve: It is so unfortunate the level of degeneration in this our beloved country!A thug is defining our ways.You don't even know the half of things my brother. Go to other African nations we insult here daily and look down upon. The political sophistication of the general polity, taking in the leaders and those who are led, will make you want to cry for Nigeria because of the realisation of how far we still have to go. |
[quote author=Hon. Kontigi]JTF must prepare for an all-out war against Asari and other terrorists in the niger delta. Gej cannot retain power beyond 2015 by using surrogates to issue threats. The theatre of war will shift to niger delta from NE.[/quote]Precisely. It is only GEJ and his minion heating up the polity. GEJ should simply put his popularity to the democratic test as is desirable. No one is fooled by all these incendiary utterances. They are the rantings of very frightened characters who know electoral defeat is inevitable. Dokubo-Asari should ask his paymaster to simply go and test his popularity against others because, as far as I know, no one is stopping him doing that. Believe me, if these people had any confidence in GEJ returning in 2015 via genuinely winning at the electoral number game, right from Party level, we will not be hearing all this disgraceful garbage that only makes Nigeria appear a backward country hosting a desperate and paranoid President afraid of his own shadow. |
alaoeri: Is he afraid that GEJ 'll lose come 2015?He will not even be the PDP candidate, let alone contest in the 2015 election, if things are ultimately about the democratic test of popularity. This is what is troubling Asari-Dokubo, Kuku, Clarke et al. With 2015 approaching, it has suddenly dawned on them that democracy remains a game of number. Their paymaster, unfortunately, can never democratically muster the number because of his treacherous and divisive antics that has now gained him the resentment of many in his Party. This is what all these empty threats are about to include Kuku running foolishly to the USA with the not-so-subtle blackmail against the West that "only GEJ 2015 win can keep oil flowing". Let these rabble-rousers simply urge their man to test his popularity. No one is fighting them and they are the ones trying to provoke others into a fight, with incendiary utterances all over the place, because chaos is all these losers and divisive element have in their desperate arsenal after alienating everyone politically. Asari-Dokubo, Kuku et al are making desperate noise yet the democratic and perfectly legitimate resistance to GEJ is very calm and measured because real political minds know GEJ has absolutely no chance regarding the numbers game. This is why Amaechi is not cowered regardless of the bullying antics of the Presidency . Do folks not wonder why Atiku, another rabble rouser, has dumped the pugnacious style of 2011 to now insist mockingly "zoning is dead. GEJ is free to run. No favours for anyone. Let everyone get in the arena and battle". It is veiled talk like that now scaring GEJ and his minions sh1teless because Atiku and many others perfectly envisaged this state of things today whereby, faced with the prospect of 100% democratic defeat, GEJ and his thugs will begin shouting "SS must enjoy its 8 years" and the sort of garbage Asari-Dokubo, Kuku et al are now desperately peddling everywhere when they had been the same crew insisting zoning must not deny GEJ the Presidency in 2010. Dokubo-Asari is merely a rabble-rouser making noise a divisive, crude and absolutely desperate Presidency encourages him to make. His kind will not take Nigeria backward democratically while all around us continue to make massive progress. Let GEJ go and test his popularity. As Atiku stated, "no favours for anyone" [size=14pt]Team GEJ (thugs, militants, rabble-rousers, empty war-mongers, clannish elders , politicians, hired mouthpieces, online propagandists et al) should accept they cannot hold Nigeria to ransom and that bullying his way to a 2015 win is not an option for GEJ. They are more than welcomed to try that approach so they can appreciate , first hand, that Nigeria is changing too like others.[/size] |
What a crude joker this Asari-Dokubo is. |
dominique: What's all this yapping about by the auditor? Duh!!! Ofcourse he's qualified to run for second term according to the constitution, just that the masses don't want him to.Absolutely correct. All these noise are the insecure utterance of mercenaries who know that their meal ticket is about to disappear. GEJ can and should run. We merely ask, starting from Party level, he submits himself to a democratic test of his own popularity. Nigeria badly needs to develop along the path where leaders only get re-elected because the electorate, at all level, welcome their return. It is abominable for a nation of 160 million people to be held hostage to the unpopular ambition of one poor and under-performing leader and his army of mercenaries. We don't want a sit-tight President disgracing Nigeria in an age where even our smaller neigbhours are showing the universally desirable notion that adequate performance should be the only thing that keep leaders in power. This is a spectacularly unpopular Presidency that has lost a great deal of goodwill in a short time. This is the real worry for all these mercenaries who appreciate that GEJ is finished any time issues become about a genuinely democratic test of popularity. |
naptu2: I'm a little bit curious. Does Goodluck Jonathan = the people of the Niger-Delta? Isn't it possible for someone to disagree with the president and still be a Niger-Deltan?Ridiculous. Nonetheless, it is what GEJ himself, a crude "local champion", enjoys and encourages i.e ethnic jingoism and sabre-rattling against other Nigerians according to ethnicity. This is why the man is surrounded by many nauseatingly uncouth and openly bigoted elements who say divisive and incendiary things all the time. Let Asari-Dokubo continue to run his foul mouth. Power is transient and people like him do not have the sophistication to understand that they only burn their own bridges with displays they have put up over the years where the only thing that will be remembered about GEJ's Presidency is the unsophisticated and crude polarisation of Nigeria along ethnic line, concerning almost every issue, by team GEJ. |
Delafruita: is the bolded supposed to be an attempt at humour?No. Merely the submission of a highly sectional mentality that ensures some never see the boulder in their own eyes when they focus on the speck in the eyes of others. Is Fashola more corrupt than the many hideously corrupt PDP Governors, Allison-Madueke (the mastermind behind the subsidy scam), NPA boss Anenih, Adoke-Bello or even GEJ himself? Jokers. |
aurenflani: The guy is thinking about the future of this country and looser like you are busy talking like a clown. Tell me which part of the north or south that voted for pdp in the last election that didn't wake up with a rude shock and disappointment with bro jona?This is the thing. Many of the fans of GEJ don't do reality. This is a man who will be 100% disgraced and defeated at even intra-Party level if he ever puts his popularity to the electoral test. Yet sycophants , devoted clannishly to their corner than to what is best for Nigeria, are here talking up the chance of a man who has disappointed everyone everywhere and clearly taken Nigeria backwards seriously. The best scenario would be what some of us enviously see playing out in other African Countries whereby a clueless mediocrity like GEJ, with a history that 100% shows he stands for nothing at all and has been promoted far above his level in a crazy country, has no chance of ever making the cut of those vying to lead a nation. No Party, not even the smallest Party with the slimmest chance of victory, for example, will put forward a GEJ-type in Ghana or Botswana. Nigeria will come of age when we reach the level of sophistication whereby every Party hosts proven performers and undisputed good guys with antecedents that shows clearly that the nation will experience progress under every one of these guys - whoever wins. That is where we must get to. |
nameo: LOL..... Is he no longer 'weak' again?It is ridiculous to read this statement regularly but I have come to accept it is the standard utterance definitive of how bastardized the minds and mentality of Nigerians are. In saner climes , with a sophisticated citizenry, no leader will ever be tagged "strong" or "not weak" by even a single person for being a bully and despot myopically abusing and demeaning the institution of his own Country to fight opposition. If anything, you will be touted a coward and clueless bully to be severely resisted. Yet we can trust Nigerians, battered and bruised into insanity, to be praising 'throwback Dinosaurs' who display antics reminiscent of the worst excess of African leader under men like Abacha, Idi Amin et al. |
django1: There seems to be no hope for Nigeria, the youth are a wasted generation!Completely correct. What makes the Nigerian youth even more worthless is the total lack of humility or interest in self-development that means he is impervious to accepting correction like an incorrigible jungle animal. |
Eko Ile: I honestly think they stopped teaching reading and comprehension in our schools or many on nl took the class but failed woefully....The ignorant utterance of many here shows why Nigeria, top to bottom, is a lawless place where ALUU-style lynching still happens. In all these ignorant, misinformed and intellectually lazy outbursts, one thing stands out clearly to damn Nigeria as a place where people are not innately law-abiding despite their hollow and insincere utterance. I.e the total disregard for the fact that the judge acted within sentencing guideline. If anything, it is obvious the judge is a lenient judge. This is a dismissed Police Officer who is now a serial criminal. He jumps bail with impunity and commits offences while an absconded convict with others in a gang structure. He was previously jailed for 6 years in relation to charges of murder, theft and political thuggery. In short, this is likely the kind of character to shoot down the ignoramuses talking here. The guideline gave the judge the power to sentence this man to jail for 20 years without option of a fine for other offences related to the theft of the phone. Considering his previous conduct and menace to society, it is obvious the judge is a compassionate man sending this unrepentant crook to jail for 10 years. This is how these types become lawrence Aninis and Monday Osunbors to be wasting Nigerian lives everywhere. Of course thieving politicians deserve sterner sentences but so also committed, violent and re-offending criminals who want to make Nigeria hell for hardworking and law-abiding folks. |
RuuDie: Even if it is 10yrs. . .is that not too much for a case of phone theft!!?Is it a case of "phone theft" alone as you simplistically posit? |
mikeansy: Just in case you did not noticeEven if he has been "picked", is it by men from Mars or APC stakeholders who sat down and made the choice of Buhari as is allowed ? What many don't factor into things is that it is even the Fasholas, Ribadus, Oshiomhole, El Rufai et al actually backing Buhari because of political pragmatism. Not one of these men have the "me or Buhari" stance you guys are entertaining on behalf of Fashola, Oshiomhole et al. There is no dictatorial insistence from Buhari himself either. It is more about a unison of reasoning that Buhari is likely the best candidate to present - all things factored into the equation. I would think you should be aware that "picked" Buhari is no different to "elected" Buhari if stakeholders sit down to make a popular and perhaps even predictable choice unitedly, unanimously and without rancour as was the case when everyone, for the sake of ceremony, went through the motions to step down for Ribadu as the ACN candidate during the Party convention. Personally, I think this is too early and probably not correct but put to any test, Buhari will likely emerge the APC Presidential candidate for pragmatically ticking more boxes than others. In the end, I am behind whoever APC presents as long as it is a good person who will work to improve Nigeria. |
goldfish80: Wtf is this lunatic rambling about? If υ must be mad at someone it should be yo parents not me. Kapish?You are the lunatic not me. Very predictable because this is all illiterates like you have the capacity for. I have seen this from Nigerians everywhere. They talk ignorantly, attack others wrongly out of their own illiteracy and poor comprehension plus make a loud and uncouth nuisance of themselves. When corrected and shown up to be empty barrels insulting others wrongly, rather than become contrite as others would be, empty insult is the next line of action for these elements no better than gutter agberos. I repeat, you are the illiterate disgrace to Nigeria and the person who should hide his face in shame and not Aregbesola. |
talkmarkay: There are problems with some nigerians, infact you will see some educated peoples acting like illiterate.Thank you !!! I have personally corrected misconceptions about this case at least 4 times on this forum. Yet all I see is a proud and collective readiness to wallow in ignorance that shows why Nigeria is what it is is today. How many of those shouting here and insulting others (the judge, Aregbesola et al) know that the judge actually showed leniency? Sentencing guideline gives the judge the total discretion of choosing between a minimum of 7 years and a maximum of 20 years ,all without the option of a fine, for the crime committed yet the judge went for 10 years. The judge has done his job impeccably and this does not even concern Aregbesola yet all we get here is ALUU-like utterances. These people here, because of their own intellectual laziness, are the same ones who will partake in the wrongful lynching of the judge connected in this case same as those ignorant animals lynched those poor boys in ALUU. Taking 3 minutes to read an article is even too much for majority of posters here. They would rather operate with ignorance and lynch-mob insanity. Sometimes I think there is limited hope for Nigeria because the people of a nation are supposed to be it's asset and hope. http://premiumtimesng.com/regional/132500-osun-govt-explains-jail-term-for-man-who-stole-gov-aregbesolas-phone.html Mr. Afolabi said the accused were charged to court on a- six-count charge of conspiracy to obtain money under false pretence, obtaining money under false pretence, stealing and impersonation. |
mikeansy: my brother please take it easy . . . .please recognise the question mark (?) in my comment and what it means . . . Happy SundayI mean no disrespect either and have not attacked you but I really don't like you choice of word i.e "celebrating". It is not a case of that at all. All genuinely sophisticated political minds humbly defer to the democratic choice of any Party they support or, if unable to do so, go elsewhere. Those empowered to do so in a political Party , and not me and you, choose candidates. Genuine members and supporters then have the option of getting behind the victor or going elsewhere. It is as fundamentally simple as that. Buhari has said he will contest if he is the democratic choice of his Party. He has pledged to step down if the Party election process throws up a better candidate. What more can the man do? It would seem people like you want the man bullied out when he is fully entitled to democratically test his popularity. If stakeholder believe in him then you should too if your are a genuine supporter of APC and believe, all things taken into account, the Party is the better 'devil'. |
mikeansy: Gbawe are u really celebrating this?Have I given any opinion for you to conclude what I am thinking? Suffice to say my support of the APC is not an emotional, flimsy, conditional or egotistic one. If the APC stakeholders democratically choose Buhari then I am behind them completely. As simple as that. All I will say to you and others is that it is very arrogant, since you are not qualified stakeholder, to insist on who a Party present or does not present. Doing that is in itself a lack of respect for the free and legitimate choice of others. If you don't agree with the choice stakeholders make democratically, as they are fully entitled to, then simply support whoever you want to. No long thing, no insults and no fight. |
goldfish80: I hide My face in shame for AregesolaHide your face in shame for yourself and your totally disgusting education system that makes many of you leave university barely functional as per the concept of reading, comprehending what is written and making logical conclusions 6 year old are capable of elsewhere. All of you are fond of coming here to attack others wrongly and vacuously when you are only displaying your own ridiculous scant education. Go and read about this event and come and tell us whether the sentencing judge erred let alone Aregbesola who is not involved in this. |
Why do you people keep repeating this 45 years fallacy? When they joke thatb black people hate reading you will all be mad and blustering sanctimoniously yet you are all proving it here. Every single article about this event also states that the convicted man will only serve 10 years in prison as the 45 years jail term is an accumulation of the various sentences that will run concurrently. Obvious most only read the title and work themselves into a self-righteous frenzy yet I wonder how so many people can be so united by hideous intellectually laziness? It is a terrible prospect to consider in respect to the manpower that will 'develop' Nigeria. Obvious Nigerians love to wallow in ignorance that leads them to never seeing the complete picture. Probably why we have a crap nation. After all Nigerians are Nigeria. |
http://tribune.com.ng/news2013/index.php/en/news/item/11135-2015-merger-parties-pick-buhari-fresh-tension-as-cpc-crisis-lingers 2015: Merger parties pick Buhari •Fresh tension as CPC crisis lingers |
madone: People shiuld stop playing politics with serious financial crime my sh*t. I wish I can see you one on one and you repeat this same word and you would be surprised wat I ll do to you. how many political have stole billions and trillion and how many years did they go. Nigerians problem is not that Kelvin went to jail the issue is poor man can be so easily brought to justice in this country. All the million your governor made when he was a commissioner in lagos how many years has he gone for .nonsense the law is blind to the rich foolsFor the sake of your own efficacy at the game of life, you should learn to think more critically and less emotionally. You are busy bellicosely engaging the OP when issues, inspected critically, only shows you are ineffective at viewing issues dispassionately, noting facts and then making the obvious conclusions and clear distinctions. If thieving politicians are receiving fines for stealing billions, what does that have to do with this case when a Judge has done his job properly and without fault at all? He even sentenced the offender leniently within the legal guideline punishment available. Where the recommendation is 7 years minimum and 20 years maximum, without the option of fine, the Judge sentenced the offender to ten years. Some of you just come here to rant, rave and dumb down the forum with the misguided impression you are saying anything worthwhile to Nigeria. You will never show interest in reading and comprehending what is presented yet you are always ready to wade in blindly and start swinging blows ignorantly. Before you come here in fake indignation look in the mirror and see the problem of Nigeria. If you were more of a solution provider and a measured critical thinker, rather than a self-made ignorant person happy attacking others unfairly, then Nigeria may have a chance to tackle and overcome her oppressors. “He was later arraigned on the six-count charge and he pleaded guilty to all the six counts. The first three counts carry twenty years maximum term with no option of fine,” he noted. |
anonimi: When you provide how much Aregberascal has sunk into this project in his past three years, then we can have a wholesome discussion.This is all you do. Lie about everything to do with progressive endeavour from ACN administrators only to get soundly discredited and exposed for the shameless lies. Remember your lies about Surulere on the Eko Ile thread where he showed the commissioning of the Anyaoku Estate? You never learn and are totally incapable of refraining from making a fool of yourself because of the mindless hatred that drives you and makes you unable to accept limits. Now, boxed into a corner, you are inanely asking others to provide you with the amount Aregbesola has spent on this airport. First of all, who do you think we are here? Accountant Generals of Nigerian State or your fellow forumers? Is anyone here your 'teacher'? Why don't you find the information you need yourself, if such exist, and use it to support your lies masked as arguments? Secondly if you don't know anything about what has been spent, then that means you are only here speaking out of ignorance, bad-mouthing this project mischievously and calling Aregbesola a scammer for nothing. This, in my book and even as I know it already, makes you a very dishonourable and perverse individual happy to slander others without any facts whatsoever. Thirdly, and totally consistent with your lying nature, you claim to want the amount Aregbesola has spent on this airport in the "past three years" when this is a project that has been resurrected only of late specifically because of how it is deemed to be very complementary to the planned free trade zone. What next Ogbeni? Try another lie on another tread and you will meet facts again. You should simply stop running around lying hatefully and learn to work with facts. Simply learn to say nothing if you cannot say anything good. That is better than lying. http://www.osundefender.org/?p=23159 Airport Project On Track – Osun Govt |
anonimi: I can put your response to Aregberascal's aerodrome scam here into proper perspective.You have to be the most annoying member of this forum with the garish and pointless over-use of attention-seeking red fonts that only convey ridiculous, totally sentimental and vapidly hate-filled garbage and lies you assume you are fooling others with. You really need to stop going around lying against others because you are only invoking negativity and frustration upon yourself. It is Oyinlola's aerodrome scam that Aregbesola is trying to turn around. Knowledgeable posters will know this fact regardless of your lies here with which you now want to insinuate otherwise. The proven biggest scammers, who take everything and give zero in return, are the PDP now firmly bounced out. Deal with that. Yet, as Mapet held, your sort will continue to get away with lies because many here are ignorant and totally disinterested in reading/researching to learn and control their own minds and perception. You are even worse than a reptile that slithers around on its stomach all day. No one tells you not to hate the ACN but to go around lying against efforts, every single time, to fix the mess of the PDP just marks you out as something else. http://www.osundefender.org/?p=5305# Osun Airport House of Fraud |
Prince0500: Am presently in Delta state,u need to see the transformation that ibori brought to this place,if ibori conviction justified his acts while in office fine nd gud bt if dis is a case of victimisation then it is nt justice.And where there is no justice peace shld nt be expected.What "victimisation" ? Do you guys think the UK's judiciary, one of the most independent in the world, has nothing better to do than be used by Nigeria's drama queen politicians? For the umpteenth time, Ibori broke the frigging law of the UK !!!! He has to pay for that. Simple.It is a misconception that the UK did Nigeria's job for her by jailing Ibori. It is important, first and foremost, for fans of Ibori to understand that he broke UK laws and nothing he did for Delta State can mitigate for his criminal activities in the UK. Nigerians should learn to get over themselves. Ibori and his associates, to include a UK registered solicitor, were engaged in a conspiracy of fraud and serious money laundering. We may not care to punish criminals in Nigeria, hence the general criminalisation of Nigerian society that makes us think some can do as they please, but most nation realise that criminal impunity is most effectively deterred when the consistent message is sent out that offenders will be apprehended and prosecuted. Ibori fell victim to that concept. Nothing more, nothing less. |
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An opening for tribal bashing? You need to get a life @op