₦airaland Forum

Billyonaire: If Lagos State is serious, they should rather invest in GENCOs and not DISCOs, who will generate Power for them to Distribute. This is Greediness, Federal Government should not sell any DISCOs to Lagos. When other States were building IPPs, Lagos was busy building Toll-Gates.

Is there no limit to the lies your sort will tell here just to support/oppose a Party/State/administrator? When I call you all losers you get angry and throw childish tantrums but you forget all the times your fraudulent submissions and blatant lies here mark you out as nothing but losers because you are overly sentimental and never work with facts and on-the-ground reality. How can you being that way then ever predispose you to winning in life? You can hate people but don't lie about them or their effort because you cross over into wickedness doing that.

Lagos State, with its proactive leadership seeing it now nominated as one of the most innovative cities of the world, has always exemplarily led the way everywhere. Whether it is PPP, security, efficient tax collection or the methodical approach to securing the greatest IGR increment seen in Nigeria, Lagos has always led the way. Same holds for IPP and people like you only display ignorance and a penchant for wickedness and bad belle mischief with your lies.

Some of us, always effective at critical thinking even if we have traditional bias and affiliations, know precisely what we are talking about when we say the FG has always deliberately attempted to undermine the progress of Lagos State. People like you should be ashamed of yourself and how you find it expedient to speak in support of the condemnable practice where an indolent FG acts as if a Nigerian State is its enemy merely because said State is controlled by the opposition. I am ashamed to be called a Nigerian with people like you because, through the grace of God, I am privileged to see first hand how effort is complementary and genuinely National in most countries of the world whereas Nigeria, as usual, must remain aberrant. Stop coming here with lies you are not bright enough to get away with while those who deal with facts are still members of this forum. You will only get discredited and shown up for the liar and ignorant hack that you are. Only God can forgive hateful, wicked and totally amoral liars like you.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/06/power-again-lagos-sets-the-pace-in-ipp/

Power: Again, Lagos sets the pace in IPP
on JUNE 15, 2011 · in FEATURES
12:00 am

By Yemie Adeoye and Charles Kumolu

Before 1999, the National Electric Power Authority,NEPA, had the sole monopoly of power generation and distribution in Nigeria. While there were suggestions on how to break that grip, Lagos State became the first state to do so with the initiation of Enron Power Project on August 1, 2009.

Consequently, the Bola Ahmed Tinubu administration, Yinka Folawiyo Power Limited and Enron Corporation of the United States signed an agreement for an Independent Power Plant, IPP, with the Federal Government as the guarantor.

The barge-mounted electricity generating plant was to be located adjacent NEPA’s Egbin Power Station, Nigeria’s biggest power plant.

This idea later became contentious following claims that the power generated was being transmitted to the National Grid for the use of the entire country, instead of only Lagos and this bordered on alleged failure by the parties to honour contractual and business obligations.

Despite the controversy surrounding the Enron power project, the Federal Government accepted the wisdom in breaking the monopoly of NEPA, which has since rechristined itself the Power Holding Company of Nigeria, PHCN. Hence the massive construction of power plants across the country and the planned privatisation of the ailing utility giant.

The impetus for this must have been the sustained calls for uninterrupted power supply in the country. Indeed not a few Nigerians have become impatient with the government over this highly embarrassing subject matter and this anger can only be felt with a short walk through the streets of major cities and towns across the country.

Angry mobs have attacked PHCN (the nation’s power utility company) stations in the past; some have waylaid and attacked official vehicles and personnel of PHCN, some have even killed staff of the utility company over electric power interruption during football matches. The list is endless.s

Faced with a situation that has seemingly defied every proposed solution, even as they keep paying for non-existent electricity supply they can only vent their anger on these innocent government workers who apparently are also experiencing incessant power outages in their various homes.

Assurances by the Federal Government at different times of planned improvement in the nation’s power generating capacity have all ended on a note of disappointment. Lanre Babalola, a doctorate degree holder was saddled with the responsibility of overseeing the Ministry of Power under the late President Umaru Yar’Adua administration. The very articulate, soft-spoken minister told the nation that there would be available to Nigerians before the end of December 2009, 6000 megawatts of electricity. That was never achieved before he got the boot after the demise of the President. Now the Goodluck Jonathan-led Federal Government has assured Nigerians of 13,000 Mw by 2013. But if the prevailing feeling is anything to go by, only few Nigerians have any confidence that the promise in this respect will ever come to fruition.

But the Lagos State government under the leadership of Governor Babatunde Fashola has decided to join the fray by embarking on an ambitious independent power project, with a targeted delivery time of about 18 months. According to the Governor, the target time frame “makes it the fastest ever executed Independent Power Project in Nigeria”.

The project which was done in conjunction with the Negris group immediately puts out of use a minimum of 30 diesel generating sets of between 100–1,000 KVA each, eliminating the inevitable pollution, noise and carbon monoxide caused by generators.

Speaking during the commissioning, Governor Fashola noted that the regulatory framework in the country had earlier made it difficult for state participation in such projects. “As you may be aware, the regulatory and statutory framework until recently restricted the involvement and participation of state governments in the provision of electric power. This constraint extended to both generation and distribution of electricity. Happily, as from the enactment of Electric Power Sector Reform Act, ESPRA, state governments and private investors alike may now partake in the business of provision and supply of electricity.

“With the change in the legal order we are able to use our innovative abilities to discharge our responsibility as a government to provide an enabling environment for the advancement of quality life style, trade and commerce, law and order, essential social services and the growth of small scale businesses, a crucial limb to the continuous development of any economy.

“In Lagos State today, industrialisation and general improvement in income and living conditions have resulted in increased demand for electricity. Recent date reveals that the power requirements of Lagos today is estimated at about 10,000-12,000 MW. This is in sharp contrast to the less than 1,000MW available to Lagos State from the national grid.

“The death of electricity has propelled our citizens to self-help, compelling them to be generators of their own electricity, resulting in emergence of all manners of domestic power generating sets. This has resulted in very high cost of electricity which unfortunately accounts for 30 per cent of operating costs of any business.

“This has many adverse social costs that are almost limitless in their dimension, erosion of disposable income for fuel to provide power, frustrations, health hazards, security failures, unemployment and so much more. Unfortunately, the provision of electricity and the management of power remains regrettably a matter of responsibility for the Federal Government which it is yet to discharge satisfactorily.

“As a Government that cares, we have refused to fold our arms. We have constantly kept to our promise to deliver; to continue to provide for the needs of the people of Lagos State. It is in keeping to this promise and the necessity to provide a platform for the promotion of the socio-economic well-being of the people that we commissioned the construction and development of this power plant,” he said.

[size=18pt]An elated Governor Fashola further informed that this was the third Independent power plant following the 270MW at Egbin, and the 12.5MW at Iju that the Lagos State Government is undertaking.[/size]

“As the bedrock of any development agenda, this administration has always considered the provision of stable power supply as being of the utmost priority. The provision of potable water, functional telecommunication services, security operations, traffic management, healthcare and education are all dependant on the availability of constant and stable electricity.

“Without recourse to any scientific analysis, it is without doubt that the demands for all of these services have tremendously increased in Lagos State, although we have had to improvise to provide power for their services. We have therefore by necessity become the laboratory for evolving home-grown solutions, through thinking and planning for our domestic challenges.

“We thought through the problem of powering critical public facilities like court houses and hospitals. We searched diligently for practical solutions. We subsequently found and collaborated with a reputable independent power producer. The result of that partnership is this 10MW electricity generating facility, the Island Power Project.

“The initiative of this project was induced by the necessity to consolidate the Justice Sector Reform agenda of the Lagos State Government. It was originally designed as a scheme which we tagged, “Powering Justice” proposed to supply electricity only to the Lagos State Government Court facilities in the Lagos Island axis, that is: High Court (Igbosere and Annex at TBS) and JIC Taylor Court House at Igbosere. The project was subsequently expanded to accommodate government health facilities and street lights on 20 streets along that corridor.

“This facility, built to highest global thermal operating plant standards will now provide 24 hours constant power supply to public facilities within the Lagos Island axis. The project, which includes an 18km dedicated underground distribution network, will supply power to the General Hospital (Lagos Island), the High Court, High Court Annex (TBS); JIC Taylor Court House, Igbosere; Maternity Hospital and the State House (Marina).

“The power plant will also provide electricity for the street lights on Broad Street, Tinubu Square, Bamgbose Street, Igbosere Road, Lawson Street, Moloney Street, Strachan Street, Okesuna Street, Hawley Street, Catholic Mission Street, Ganiyu Smith Street, Glover Street, Mobolaji Bank-Anthony Street, Brook Street, Joseph Street, Campos Street, Campbell Street, Ajele Street, Odunlami Street and Kakawa Street. In order to achieve this, the street lighting furniture on all of these 20 streets has been refurbished. The plant is powered by gas engines with diesel engines as backup.

“The commissioning of this plant immediately puts out of use a minimum of 30 diesel generating sets of between 100 – 1,000 KVA each, eliminating the inevitable pollution, noise and carbon monoxide caused by generators. This plant also has a vast cost-saving component to the state government of 46 per cent over project whole life cycle.

“An obvious benefit of the Island Power Project is its ability to drastically improve the reliability of power supply to the above mentioned government facilities from 35 to 100 per cent with the corresponding reduction in the operating costs and increased efficiency in this government facilities. It will also significantly improve the delivery of essential social services to the people of Lagos State.

“In a study recently carried out in the United Kingdom, it was demonstrated that street lighting is a more effective strategy of crime prevention as compared to CCTV. We expect therefore that since street lighting is an essential ingredient for improving security of any society, those streets covered by this project will only become more secure. The underlying advantage, however, is the improvement of law and order and the rejuvenation of night life economy in the axis.

“Cumulatively, the Island Power Project will be powering over 230 street light installations, 40 court rooms, eight operating theatres, a 153 chamber mortuary, 16 clinics/centres which include two HIV/AIDS clinics, two emergency centers that harbour three fully-equipped Lagos State emergency ambulances and a special babies unit.

“This project from conception to its commissioning today was undertaken in less than 18 months. This makes it the fastest ever executed Independent Power Project in Nigeria. It is also a further demonstration of the appreciation and commitment of the Government of Lagos State to the procurement and provision of infrastructure using the Public Private Partnership model.

“An interesting innovation of this project is that it comes with a 24 hour dedicated call centre for street light queries. This will ensure the immediate attention of relevant officials to issues relating to the street lights leading to the optimum utilization of the infrastructure.

“The people of Lagos State have been deprived of one of the essentials of decent living: constant, uninterrupted, affordable and clean electricity power supply for too long. This problem has its roots, amongst other things, in the lack of accurate data as to the actual power/energy requirements of the people of Lagos State. It is in view of this that the present administration in Lagos State has now embarked on a comprehensive state-wide power audit programme.

ddeola: Please let's ignore this man, they are using him to distract the attention of Nigerians from the mess in this govt

Have you noticed the insanity and rabid rants of Okupe has gone into overdrive since the ACN convention, a few days ago, where the Party formally merged with the APC? The reality of things is really beginning to frighten some people and that is unducing a psychosis now resulting in them backing madly like rabid dogs. It is Okupe and his paymasters who have committed political suicide. The charlatan should simply learn to control his anger and frustration better.

onatisi: you must have wasted ur youthful years to end up like this,when ppl of ur age are in positions of power u sit down with ur grey hair on the internet chatting and exchanging insults with people u are old enough to be their father,abi u don craze before?definitely u wasted ur early years smoking ganja.amukun meko.better find a way of achieving something tangible before u enter 70.
today i get ur time .oponu agbaya ayirada oniranu

Omo ole and 419ner, what is your age? Why all this Azonto dance? You are asked a simple question after making the fraudulent assumption crooks like you deploy for a living. Tell us your age instead of ranting like a petty, illiterate market gossip. Why not simply tell the forum your age, once and for all, since you assume you are young and others are old. You simply cannot do so because you are a liar and failure hustling in Accra at the age of 50 while pretending to be "young".Loser.

Sad and very desperate Presidency. They have tried everything and now deep frustration is setting in. The new tactics is to whip up ethnic sentiments after all efforts to prevent the formation of the mergers has failed. Let GEJ and all his mercenary simply accept that we are under the last undeserving and accidental President to lead Nigeria. It is time we joined other Nation who have enshrined a culture of having only proven performers in positions of ultimate power and not a recluse like Yar Adua or abject career mediocrities and dishonest individuals like GEJ, David Mark et al.

onatisi: adagba ma danu,listen it is an open secret here on nl how dumb an old fool u are .so just behave according to ur age and grey hairs,instead of allowing young men to insult u.try to behave like an agbalagba at least for once

Illiterate Mumu, tell us your age now. Is age no longer a simple number? Bobo, simply tell us your age and stop dancing around shamelessly and fraudulently. You don't even realise how senseless you sound. How can anyone's age be an open secret here when most Nairalanders have never met any other Nairalander?

What shows you are a fraudulent-minded gossip more than this? Ogbeni, tell us your age and stop dancing Azonto up and down. This is what you disgraceful Nigerian fraudsters do up and down. I.e automatically and falsely put yourself in a position that you think gains you an advantage.

We see it on this forum daily. You are always "younger than others". Here many of you are "studying for masters/PHD" never mind that your language indicate you are probably hustlers in a motor Park. Many of you have been in "leadership position" when your poor reasoning only reveals minds fit for only the most mundane of jobs. Some of you are even "Billionaires" when it is clear you have probably never had 2,000 Naira in your pocket .You are the real agbaya if you can simply not say your age and prefer assuming you are younger than others here. Yahoo-yahoo. They will soon bring you to book in Ghana. They are not smiling with your sort there.

onatisi: old man shut up and listen,if u have missed any of ur anti rabies then go and take it.i didnt insults but if that consitute an insult to ur grey hair then take it.i never run away from a duel.agbaya oshi

Mumu? Why don't you start by telling us your age instead of insinuating you are younger than others? Silly 419ner. Is that not standard behavior of 'wayo' people and yahoo-yahoo fraudsters like you?

Is it not what your sort do even at the national level to the disgrace of Nigeria and to the extent we have 36-year old parading as under 17 and pretending to be younger than Lionel Messi? Meanwhile 25 year old Messi is having a stonking career while "22 year old" Macauley Chrisantus and others who bullied genuine 17 year old in 2007 to win the under 17 world trophy have faded into obscurity and are nowhere to be seen today.

A nation of 419 at every level aptly typified by crooks like you with the mind-reading ability to predict the age of others, on an anonymous forum, when they have not been told such. I bet you are 19 and studying for a masters as most Nairalanders claim here rather than an old drifter moving from Country to Country hustling. Keep deceiving yourself. Oponu.

thelastPope: Anytime you are found out, you repond with 22 paragraphs of insults and meaningless google search results. Is this how your brain works?

What are the election figures of 2011 from oyo, ogun, ondo, ekiti and osun and how does it support your lies that the PDP has been rejected and is dead in the south west? Don't evade the question. Man up! Why did LASG have to rig the last LGA elections? You are loosing ground here. Do something fast!

Mumu, the entire forum can see you are the only one who has been "found out". Instead of begging others to help your mischief, why not simply present whatever figures you have for inspection here, as I have done, and let others judge for themselves?

It seems you are too unintelligently obdurate to understand the simplicity of the notion that the PDP politicians were voted out of the top/most influential political offices in the SW in 2011. I.e the sort of offices capable of affecting the policy direction of the region. That is why you are running around making no sense as usual. Overcome the cowardice you confessed to and focus on Delta State politics. Stop talking about things you know nothing about.

Also, try and learn to spell properly. It is losing not "loosing". Kapish?

ZUBY77: Dear Lagos state,
The federal govt is trying to privatize these things for effective management. Why would it sell it to another govt establishment?
Govt regimes are bound to change every four or eight years in every state. How do you plan to transit from the current govt to the future one especially when it comes to these structures. No, we want it in the hands of individual companies .

I will not be surprised when the bigots turn this into ACN vs PDP

By selling DISCO to Abdulsalami and co with no previous capacity or expertise to operate in the sector? What caused the fuel subsidy scam again? Look, the privatisation of the power sector is a good thing but there should always be the flexibility to give deserving States the chance to craft unique solutions to match their own specific needs. State privatisation should be an option if we are in a purist federal arrangement. This will not be the first time the FG has played politics to impede the progress of Lagos. OBJ even made it virtually FG policy to say an outright No, even before he has considered the argument, to anything Lagos suggested.

Not too long ago on this forum we all praised the coming of legislation to allow States generate and distribute power. Is that not virtually State privatised power solution? Is it then not inane that States cannot submit bids to run Distribution Companies? What is the problem, when legislation is already in place giving States distribution autonomy in the sector, with letting Lagos acquire distribution Companies within it's border?

When has privatisation meant excluding States from bidding meritoriously for considerations that should be open to all? Is it not obvious that this is then no longer "privatisation" in the strict sense of the word? Look deeper and , like the fuel subsidy scam, you will see the same desire for a few to keep their hands in the cookie jar through favoured/selected cronies. Tell me where this rejection puts the thread below where virtually all Nairalanders, including myself, praised the positive effort of the FG. Logically inspected, without sentiments and in view of latest developments backed by legislation, does the refusal of the FG not appear like sabotage of Lagos to you?

https://www.nairaland.com/818599/states-begin-power-distribution-january

onatisi: i wont trade insults with u ,i have elders in my family,but honestly gbawe i think u are too old for all this forum insults ,always try to make ur points without insulting ppl,that will protray maturity but if this is the only way u know then i wish u well.
just dont forget 2015 we are winning back the south west.and it is certain ur apc will lose the presidency.that is already settled

Shut up silly hypocrite. Nothing I do is by accident. I am a polite person by nature but many of you here are slimy b.astarrds who want to insult other freely and then play victim next minute when you gain the same sort of response you dish out.

Anyone I insult here deserves it because they would have thrown insults first. Even here I will prove it. What have you written below if not character assassination and an insult against my person? Guy, stop being an open and cowardly pretender and slimeball. You will only get exposed for it.

If you do not want to be insulted then don't throw it around because what I know of this forum is that cowards like you get emboldened when you think your unsolicited insults are cowering others. What "pudding" have you set aside for me and what is "my type" you have worked out in you dishonest mind? Or do you think everyone is a jobless and hungry mercenary for hire like you and Okupe? Respect yourself and get respect in return. Simple.

the likes of him wil always decamp after elections just to have a piece of the pudding,we know their type

onatisi: it is pointless arguing with that guy ,let him keep living his apc paradise,the likes of him wil always decamp after elections just to have a piece of the pudding,we know their type

Mumu. Ode igboro. I have answered your master with fact above. Like I keep saying to olodos like you, we can all be partisan in our affiliation but few, in a forum where cretins like you soil everything with sentiments, can defend there bias/position here with facts as some of us do consistently on virtually every topic.

Nothing can be as straightforward as I have put it to you and your co-travellers. Are we talking about the same PDP so decimated in the SW to the extent a whole Speaker of the lower house, i.e Bankole, and Iyabo Obasanjo-Bello could not even win in their hamlet?

What manner of 419ners are you guys to now come with this unbelievable revisionism? Is it not the same PDP that was reduced to begging the centre for token appointment it did not deserve courtesy of its awful electoral showing in the region? You guys are merely only sentimental and feudal. There is no redeeming quality to your sort of partisan outlook. You cheapen and dumb down the politics section here because you never do fact, logic or reality and I can only wonder how this must blight your efficacy and progress in real life.

By the way, as you claim to know "my type" is how I know your type also. Are you not among those worthless, jobless and disgraceful Nigerian thugs hanging around outside Nigerian restaurants in Accra begging and harassing every diner with the words "chairman wetin una get for us". Steeeewpid loser.

thelastPope: How did the 2011 election show that the SW rejected PDP and that the PDP is dead? Can you support your claim with the votes figures please? What was the figures in Ogun, Oyo, Ondo, ekiti and Osun? You guys never stop indulging in lies!

Mumu. This is why unintelligent charlatans like you should have the sense to mind your own business. Do you know how many legislative seats the PDP lost in the SW? Olodo. You think everything is about gubernatorial elections? Only slow posters here would not have worked out who you are. Shameless wannabe. Try , for once in your wretched busybody life, to focus on Delta State politics and stop your malevolent obsession over SW politics you know nothing about.

Look at the situation in 2007:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Congress_of_Nigeria_(ACN)

In the 21 April 2007 Nigerian National Assembly election, the party won 32 out of 360 seats in the House of Representatives and 6 out of 109 seats in the Senate.[s][/s]

and 2011, with most gains in the SW :

Seats in the Senate 18 / 109
Seats in the House 74 / 360
Governorships 6 / 36

Stop chatting crap ogbeni. The only liars are folks like you who never mind their business and fraudulently want to misinterpret the clear choices others have made to suit your own parochial agenda. I am sure people like you deeply envy the cohesiveness with which the SW take political decisions but you can go and jump because that is not about to change. The political sophistication in the region is such that performers, whether they are ACN or Labour, are retained and non-performers, whether they are ACN also, are booted out in free and fair elections. Progress is all that matters.

The SW spoke decisively. You should mind your own business, focus on your own leaders because they are terrible enough to keep you occupied. Respect the choices of others and stop your wannabe obsession with them that leads you to lie openly and deny reality. I repeat that the PDP was soundly rejected in the SW in 2011. Deal with that fact loser and mind your own business.

donroxy: Mr Man, how do u read please, do u comprehend the OP at all.........na comment like urs dey create Tribal brouhaha on Nairaland ......


U wanna Tribalise this thread abi ........guy abeg read the Op again.....


Let me help you with some of the Key words in the OP :


ACN,YORUBA,Okupe,Southwest,Abraham Adesanya ..... Etc


So this is ACN/APC in Yorubaland not other region.....
What is Tribal in here again.......Okupe limited his trash on ACN/APC to Yorubaland .......thats what we re dealing with NOT other regions.....!!!

Thank you. As Okupe and GEJ are treacherous, so also those who hold brief for them. Okupe, by his own past utterance, has shown he believes crudely in the PDP concept of individuals coming together to share Nigeria's commonwealth exactly as the Charge d’ affaires of the US embassy in Nigeria, Lisa Piascik, stated in the past when she opined that the PDP is not a political Party in the real sense of the word but merely a congregation of individuals united by the desire to share the 'national cake' amongst themselves alone.

It is the tragedy of Nigeria that it is GEJ, Okupe and other misfits who control offices they would have no business occupying in nation where meritorious appointment is the mainstay of governance success. This is why Okupe is yapping in overdrive lately. It is the rants of a a man scared of losing it all because he know there is no place for him when the system is fully opened up to the concept of merit and ability carrying the day as the ACN demonstrates it is fully committed to .


http://stephendieseruvwe./2012/03/11/pdp-is-not-a-political-party-but-a-fractious-and-opportunistic-coalition-of-interests-lisa-piascik/

PDP IS NOT A POLITICAL PARTY, BUT A FRACTIOUS AND OPPORTUNISTIC COALITION OF INTERESTS – LISA PIASCIK
MARCH 11, 2012
tags: Corruption, PDP, People's Democratic Party
The United States does not consider the ruling Peoples’ Democratic Party a political party, a US diplomatic cable leaked to the whistle blowing site, Wikileaks, and made exclusively available to NEXT has shown.

Charge d’ affaires of the US embassy in Nigeria, Lisa Piascik, in a dispatch dated October 19, 2007, informed Washington that despite its labelling as a political party, the PDP did not meet “the common western understanding” of a political party.

According to Ms. Piascik, the PDP “lacks key ingredients most political parties share”.

After taking a swipe at the party’s mission statement, the American diplomat proceeded to deliver what is probably the most scathing analysis yet of the PDP.

[size=14pt]“The PDP remains an agglomeration of interest groups formed around persons of prominence and power which are loosely tied together by a desire to remain in office and maintain access to the “national cake” or resources of the state”, Ms. Piascik declared.[/size]

“The PDP remains a highly fractious and opportunistic coalition of interests. True opposition, in the form of a powerful group with access to the pillars of power, comes from within the PDP – not from without as would be expected in a democratic party structure.”

She added that the party, which claims to be the biggest political platform in Africa, has no “ideological consensus” whatsoever and had remained divided from the start.

In a comment attached to the cable, the American diplomat said, “The PDP remains a highly fractious and opportunistic coalition of interests. True opposition, in the form of a powerful group with access to the pillars of power, comes from within the PDP – not from without as would be expected in a democratic party structure.”

onatisi: i beg help me ask am oooo.i dont know where they all seem to get the idea from that every single yoruba man loves nd like their so called apc

Look, stop jumping around in idiocy. The 2011 election showed, beyond any shadow of doubt, that the SW has rejected the PDP. You can therefore keep dreaming of a PDP comeback in the SW or deal with reality. The PDP is dead in the SW for very good reasons and even as your sort do not want to admit it, the much better performance of the ACN, after the PDP days of chaos, will keep the PDP firmly six feet under in the SW.

ewet: Bros we already died in 2011 by allowing GEJ bcom prez,we are not afraid of dying again,we will do evrythng to vote the PDP out 2015.GEJ and his cohorts are just wasting thir time.Our minds are already madeup.

My brother, Okupe is only scared it is "game over" for undeserving elements like him and his paymasters in a new order under the APC. Why will he not squirm like a Pig about to be dragged out of a mud pit? The entire world agrees this is good for Nigeria's democracy yet who are the immature folks having a problem with ACN correctly sacrificing for the evolutionary good of Nigeria? You guessed it. Mercenaries and small-minded charlatans who, for one reason or the other, want a continuation of the wretched status quo no sane person will agree is acceptable.

Which well-adjusted person will have a problem with a very corrupt and ultra-indolent Party being challenged to move away from it's 14 years comfort zone of impunity predicated on the knowledge that it can misrule Nigeria as badly as it wants only to always be returned to the centre at the polls? This is why it is difficult to pity Nigerians sometimes when they show they do not pity/respect themselves and are actually the ones speaking in favour of the continuation of the terrible status quo.

micklplus: Okupe and the presidency forget that, the presidency and the occupier belong to Nigerians irrespective of political affiliation.

Whenever APC, CPC, A.CN or any other parties have anything to say, I think its not the duties of Okupe and or the presidency to be firing shots at parties. Parties to parties and presidency should deal with issues facing Nigeria and Nigerians.


We can't keep bringing remaining honour that's left of the president down.

A.CN and any other parties can rant, firing shots and jump up and down, Okupe's party should respond if there's any need and not the presidency.

Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

You are totally correct but can you expect a successful surgery when you deploy a carpenter to replace a qualified surgeon? This is the sad story of Nigeria i.e 'apprentices' everywhere and square pegs in round holes. The only result of that is what we are seeing now whereby a mediocre and unfit President gather a mercenary and worthless team who debase the Presidency daily and humiliate us Nigerians via portraying our ruling Party as one with nothing to do aside gossiping and b1tching effeminately against everyone and everything.

Achebe refused award, they insulted the old man. Ezekwesili ask for accountability and they ridicule her as a woman. Ribadu agreed to work for them and they turn him into the bad guy with the same Okupe rising up publicly to assassinate Ribadu's character merely because he delivered a report damning of the complicity of Okupe's paymasters in the looting of Nigeria's wealth. Now we have the formation of a strong alliance praised worldwide for its evolutionary progressiveness because of how it will make Nigerian politics stronger since the PDP will gain genuine competition knocking it off its comfort zone. Yet who has a problem with this aside the likes of 'chop and clean mouth' empty barrels like Okupe and their misguided co-travellers disturbing us here on this forum?

Boyoorisha: What do you know about politics?

He knows nothing at all because he is the typical embodiment of Nigerian youths. Vacuous, materialistic and crassly myopic.

Which of us will live forever? Is it not worth making sacrifices and fighting for some causes at certain stages in life even if the outcome/future is unknown? The only thing constant in life is change.

We saw young Egyptians, Tunisians and Libyans lay their lives down for what they believed in recently. ACN is merely merging with others and Okupe is showing himself to be a mercenary who will never understand the concept of moving out of a comfort zone in trying to achieve something worthwhile.

Okupe is then joined in this idiotic display by the Nigerian youths in cyberspace who validates Rotimi Amaechi's recent utterance that Nigerians are too weak and docile to ever do anything radical about their current awful predicament.

Let us not forget it is this same Okupe who showed exactly what he believed in recently with the utterance that "when people unite to share what is scarce and you have no one to fight for you, then there is a problem". He said this in regard to the SW not having weighty offices at the centre, enabling charlatans like him to 'eat', when men of ideas appreciate it is about the quality of life of ordinary Nigerians.

Did even Jesus not sacrifice for the salvation of humanity? Okupe and his backers on Nairaland are the disgraceful elements testifying to the ugly aspects of what some Nigerians are. I.e materialistic opportunist and fraudsters who rationalise everything via the perspective of never losing control of the money and 'juicy' positions. When the merger did not work last time it was the charlatan you respond to here and the Okupes in our polity who mocked that the opposition Parties were "too selfish to put their difference aside". Now they talk of "suicide". Hypocritical double-speak.

Yet, I only smell the fear of those who know Nigeria is about to change for good.

Zechy09: Can you see the reason many people don't take politics section serious and assume it is a place to defend your political affiliation instead of defending the truth.
You always criticize GEJ all the time and i thought you were an "Objective Nigerian" standing up for the truth, i didn't know you are just an ACN apologist.
This is a blatant lie and there is no way to justify the lie. Even if it is for a period of 70yrs, it will still be a BIG lie!
I expect people irrespective of their political affiliation to say the truth at all times and NOT speak the truth when it is GEJ and lie when it is opposition.

My two cents.

Clearly you are another one who has a problem with the messenger regardless of your pretence to the contrary. To any objective person, can it be said I am defending the ACN here? All I have done is try and use facts and the right translation of what is stated to correct the ignorance and misconception that produces the sort of partisan and inane submission here which is the real reason intelligent folks will not take the political section seriously.

What is wrong with telling all of you factually that the manager of the LFTZ is talking of the sum that may accrue to LASG ,as internally generated revenue, from the direct and indirect activities linked to the Port over the length of the concession? Do you want to remain ignorant or is it everything you want us to fight over and turn into an ACN/PDP war?

Frankly, it is people like you that have driven many intelligent posters , who deal with facts and statistics, away from this forum with your feudal mindset you deploy negatively any time you cannot understand the depth of what others are talking about.

So far, many contribution here, with all due respect, has been garbage driven by partisanship. You should simply show I lie anywhere with your own set of facts. Show I have added to or subtracted from what is provided rather than simply made reasonable and factual conclusion based upon what is written. It is as simple as that. You inanely call this a "blatant lie" yet , as one example, how much do you think 160,000 new jobs may bring Lagos in the form of taxation?

There are many, many, many activities that could be indirect money-spinners due to the operation of the port. If you don't have the knowledge to appreciate what others know then concentrate on defeating ignorance and bettering yourself instead of saying others are lying because they are miles ahead of you at appreciating the economics of things.

At the end of my submission I concluded the figures seem optimistic but , unlike ignorant folks who don't work with fact, conceded it was not impossible because there are tonnes of information I do not have such as the business tax/levy Companies operating at the port may pay that would swell Lagos coffers. The functional illiteracy here, seeing folks shun facts and logic, is the real reason intelligent posters will come and leave in the end.

Venchy: Typical of Nigerian leaders, very very Opinionated, always in denial. .. corruption that has been in the system before you (GEJ) was born.

Jonathan you are a comedian.

Bruv, what else do you want him to say? We all forget this is the same man who pardoned a looter of the commonwealth of the people. He has no choice but to defend the corrupt empire he is building with his kleptomaniac cronies and affiliates.

mrlizo: On Twitter, reacting to accusation that he was once a blind defender of President Olusegun Obasanjo , a former Senior Special Assistant, SSA, to Obasanjo on Public Communications, Chief Femi Fani-Kayode in a bid to justify himself referred to Presidents Jonathan and Yar’Adua as dogs. You can see it for yourself below:

IF IT WAS NOT PRESIDENTS JONATHAN AND YAR’ADUA HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHO IS FANI-KAYODE REFERRING TO AS DOGS? WELL, IT SEEMS HE WENT TOO FAR ON THIS ONE.

See Pictures (Snapshots below):
http://www.newsinnigeria.org/2013/04/incaseyoumissedit-femi-fani-kayode-refer-to-presidents-jonathan-and-yaradua-as-dogs-with-snapshots.html

@OP

Not a fan of fani-Kayode but he has not "gone too far". It is merely that you don't understand what he is saying.

Fani-Kayode, in the link you provided, said :

@Omojuwa I never described OBJ as "our messiah" but I defended his record which is second to none. Since he left Nig has gone to the dogs".

I suggest you go and learn what the idiom "gone to the dogs" mean

turawafett: only one question i have to ask, how many years will it take the generate the over $200 billion. i did not read anyway that it will be generated within a year.

Correct. You ask precisely the right question. How long is the concession period over which the $200 billion target is based upon? Why can posters here, on either side of the debate i.e feasible or otherwise, not simply establish this critical fact before they begin attempting to speak conclusively?

Secondly, the utterance of the Managing Director of the Lagos Free Trade Zone, Mr. Haresh Aswani, may have been misunderstood by many. He stated and I quote:

http://www.theheraldng.com/200-billion-internal-revenue-expected-from-lekki-port-by-2016/

"on completion by 2016, the project would contribute to the internally generated revenue of Lagos state some $200 billion and will create about 163, 000 new jobs."

Obvious that any estimate is not exclusive to the direct earning of Port operations alone but also to so many other linked State income generation consideration such as the taxes to be paid to Lagos by thousands of newly created jobs, business levies, tourism, etc, etc.

The Lekki deep sea port is conceded for 45 years which means the $200 billion estimated accrual to Lagos state government is expected over that period from direct and indirect activities connected to the operation of the Port. I.e over $4 billion a year, over 45 years, will accrue to Lagos through the direct and many connected considerations arising from the operation of the Lekki deep sea port. Optimistic in my opinion but not unrealistic or fraudulent.

Of course the PDP must pack and go. But for the lack of political sophistication of Nigerians, PDP would have gone ages ago because they have delivered nothing but backwardness to Nigeria over a 14 year period. We are certainly 'very different' in Nigeria but I would think even our legendary fame for "suffering and smiling" will not keep PDP in power a day beyond 2015.

They will even lose more States and be seriously decimated in the legislative houses. The ACN obliteration of the PDP in the SW, in 2011, will happen across Nigeria because of the same reason it did in the SW. Total dissatisfaction with a worthless ruling Party failing to give people even the basics. Beyond all the feudalism played out here daily, the cold reality is that Nigeria will not continue to exist in a vacuum when all around her are busy making progress via booting out ineffective/mediocre leaders. Folks can make my word about this.

[quote author=X-factoria].

ACN is looking to outsource its candidate from PDP again. They have been talking to Tambuwal and some other folks in PDP as options. Preempting this, Okupe has come out to cast a moral burden on them. With this attack, APC's image would be dealth a serious blow and people would not take them seriously if they source their candidate from PDP. Okupe has tactically limited their options.

If they are truly and really different, why can't they produce their own "Fresh Air"? Why must they always look to PDP for presidential candidate? Doesn't that suggest that they - APC are opportunists with no ideals?[/quote]What votes can Tambuwal get that Buhari cannot deliver multiplied by 50? Tambuwal will fare no better than Ribadu in the North and strategically, the APC can never do anything so obviously self-destructive as ceding their top position to a candidate from a Party they want to depose.

In politics, politicians meet secretly all the time and no mature person, not present at these meetings, can/will speak conclusively about what the meeting was about. Balanced folks, understanding of the nature of politics, will accept they could have met for any number of reason but feudal minds would rather conclude it is to crown Tambuwal APC Presidential candidate even when the idea is obviously inane for many reasons.

Perhaps Jonathan wanted to recruit Tinubu to be PDP VP candidates all the times he secretly met the former Lagos governor in the past.

Here we go again with another ludicrous official denial that sounds as sincere as saying Boko Haram exist to help old ladies across the road. Pure garbage.

@OP

Have you advised Abdullahi to think outside the box and consider self-employment? Unemployment is a problem many Nations of the world are currently grappling with. Humanity has to be creative at this point in time and there may be vast rewards for those able to resist following the herd unthinkingly.

8 years is a long time to spend searching for work when Abdullahi could have now perfected and began the operation of one business plan effectively. You will probably tell me about capital and start-up fund but ask Abdullahi how much he estimates he has spent in the last 8 years seeking work and you may find that the same financial,physical and mental effort invested in that search for work, futile to date, may have been sufficient enough to have a thriving SME (small to medium enterprise) going by now.

eggheaders: @Op they're both in the same class of failed leaders.when we get it right in this nation maybe both of them will be cellmates in kirikiri.but obj gat balls than that otueke drunkard.

Correct. Both men testify to the lack of political sophistication of Nigeria whereby we can have an Adedibu lording it over established technocrats and men of ideas. The main thing Nigeria need is the urgent growth in political sophistication of the polity that will see the average Nigerian able to make sensible, pragmatic and critically effective decisions.

When we get to that stage, as others have, we will all forget we were ever ever led by mediocre failures like OBJ, GEJ, Yar Adua, Shagari et al. I think globalisation and increasing exposure , leading Nigerians to see what obtains else where, will take us there. It will not continue to be the case for Nigeria that mediocrities continue to make it to the apex of Nigerian administration.

Dee60: That makes him a political liability!

.... and a mercenary.

Goddex: Keep shut Gbawe!!!
You give a blind eye when your Liar Muhammed and Tinubu spew rubbish about Fed Govt. Why can't they behave gentlemanly like Oshiomole or even Fashola? So you support the gutter language and tissues of lies and wolf crying from the most deceptive image-maker in the whole wide world, Liar Muha . . . ?

Look, the opposition can be a pain. It is same everywhere in the world to include the most advanced democracies we copy fastidiously like the USA. Watch UK Prime Minister question time to gain some perspective.

You should acquire some maturity and ability to think critically as this will show you that the onus always lies on those who occupy the seat of power to do what is right and capable of shutting up criticism. Tinubu and Lai Mohammed can be a pain to GEJ but they as so and will continue to be so as an exponent of GEJ's own gross incompetence and compromised leadership.

You cannot, anywhere in the world, justify the notion of a Presidency engaging in mud-slinging when the voice of opposition only get stronger because of valid criticism that remain, day in day out, ignored. Get that into your feudalistic and clannish head.

Even if you claim I hate you, because I am the neighbour who tells you to clean your front garden so as to stop disgracing the community boasting well-kept houses around yours, why not shut me up first by doing what I correctly ask for? Doing that means you have the right, the next I talk, to show me up to be hollow.

Jonathan is not minimally interested in that approach at all yet politically unsophisticated folks like you defend him blindly. Instead, GEJ is criticised about monumental corruption and next minute he is pardoning corruption while unleashing Okupe et al on those correctly highlighting his duplicity, deceit and corrupt streak. Grow up dude and learn to accept that a man grows when he accepts rather than avoid or deflect truthful and factually correct criticism. The aberrant creature would be one who expensively deploys 'attack dogs' rather than face the truth.

[quote author=tosh_acer]Really? Oh, I understand, another ACN bigot. Of course, no one expects ACN bigots to take Okupe serious.[/quote]Look, say what you want but first show us the Performing leaders worldwide who gathers an array of expensively maintained spin doctors and attack dogs, like your dear President, with the duty of insulting everyone saying the truth about poor and grossly inadequate leadership.

It is all so easy, because most Nigerians have been brought up on a staple diet of "them against us" feudalism , for many to always miss the most important point to be attacking "enemies". Nigerians, in my opinion, do this more than others I know.

When Obama lambasted GEJ for corruption, some forgot the main correct message to suddenly remember that America is our enemy and "the most corrupt nation in the world". When Cameron asked GEJ to account for the trillions Nigeria has received in income, many damned the meritorious request and limited their input to shouting that "those imperialists should shut up". Can't some of you even try to think critically for the benefit of your own life success? How is it good for a President to have so many attack dogs with the exclusive duty of responding to everything negative said about the government with pugnacious insults? There is virtually no one/group that has not been insulted by the crew of Okupe, Abati, Omokri et al be it Ezekwesili, Tinubu, El Rufai, Buhari, Achebe, the Nigeria youths, Nigerians, SNG, Tunde Bakare, Femi Falana, Soyinka, Aregbesola, Fashola et al.

Surely you must realise that this is disgraceful and the antics of clueless leaders who, instead of getting to work, embrace insult and the paranoid alienation of everyone to mask gross incompetence and inadequacies? These things reflect the character of GEJ i.e always willing to pettily get into the gutter with anyone instead of simply delivering results that will shut critics up.

Sincere 9gerian: The above post is better than your previous very lenghty effluents. It will be unfair not to recognise the improvement, however little. Nonetheless, the above post could still have been articulated in 3 to 4 sentences. You may benefit from a brain plastic surgery, to trim your brain and streamline your thoughts.

Mumu, when you have a decent job then you can rise up from being the equivalent of dirt beneath my shoes. As things stand, you are simply worthless garbage with weak and senseless retorts. You would be better off in the cosmetic section discussing lipstick and mascara. Your histrionics here fools no one. It is obvious why your sort are scared of Tinubu.

Rather than confess to the truth, your sort channel fear and outright envy into the non-stop tiring gossip about the man we see here daily similar to petty, ugly and envious women bitching about Jennifer Lopez because she is a millions times what they can never be. Crybaby 'Airhead'. Continue to weep as Tinubu consolidates his reputation as one of the most influential and most sane Politician in Nigeria. Meanwhile your messiah is only good for receiving knocks these days from the international community so I can understand your desperation.

This will not surprise those who know Jonathan. He was brought in to defend the interest of the most corrupt in the land. This is why corruption is having a field day under GEJ. Sooner or later, one of the clueless and accidental leaders Nigeria is always lumbered with will loot the Nation into bankruptcy.

Sincere 9gerian: @Gbawe..,learn to articulate your thoughts in very few words. These your lenghty epistles that litter the whole thread are boring.

You repeatedly asked why Tinubu? You forgot that Tinubu is the leader of ACN/APC, which has promised to turn Nigeria to a paradise on earth if elected in 2015. I hope that answers your question.

Sharrap slowpoke. No wonder you are a herbalist masquerading as a medical doctor on "sabatical". This is the politics section. If you have a problem reading what others write then bounce and go to where you can cuz, wuz, and gossip in one line about Tonto Dike's tattoos.

In any case, you are the biggest, slimiest hypocrite here. A totally shameless and amoral character. When you write an entire book here eulogizing the mediocre GEJ , to include blatant lies, you did not deem it fit to adhere to the insincere advise you now deliver. As for your talk about Tinubu being the Leader of the ACN/APC, simply another lie that exposes your duplicity. It could be said that Okorocha, EL Rufai, Ribadu, Ngige, Utomi and many others are all faces and leader of the ACN/APC. Why not talk about them? Ulimately you, like many of your kind, are a small-minded cretin who can never discuss ideas and will always revert to default mode of obsessing over individuals. Besides, is it post APC that your ilk have been obsessed with Tinubu 24/7? Silly drifter.

[quote author=Neo-XVI]Story, story. I have been saying the truth since I could speak, and there is no truer truth than that Tinubu is a corrupt politician. He may have kept ACN alive single-handedly, good for him, but that doesn't change the facts. I noticed that all the people you mentioned are PDP guys . You are a very good party man. No wonder you supported Ribadu before and now it has to be Buhari even though Buhari was there last time. And for the PDP guys you mentioned, any proof? Hard evidence? Forget newspaper publication. That will not convict anyone in court.

Do you now see what we've been saying all along? We make our judgements from the stories we hear, what we read, and what we can see for ourselves. I lived in Lag up until 2010, and I have been back there a couple of times since. I stay in touch also, so I ain't a stranger to Lagos politics.

My allegiance is to the Nigerian people, and when I see young men willfully following corrupt politicians without thought and then claim they want the best for Naija, I can't help pointing out the hypocrisy. You guys should get your heads off Tinubu's a$$. If you have to follow someone, go with Fashola. He's a much better man. Lagos would have been much more developed today if Tinubu's greed isn't so insatiable. His lust for power is only second to Atiku's. That was why he couldn't decide where to stick his head in 2011, dilly-dallying from Buhari to Ribadu to Jonathan, all to no avail [/quote]Frankly, I should have expected this incoherent write-up because this is all you 'fence-sitters' and "neutrals" can produce. I.e a lot of populist rhetoric yet very little substance. The tired lines are the same of how everyone is corrupt and you don't represent anyone and are against all politicians. Go and import leaders from Mars then in your hollow idealism that has no practical use on the ground.

I have not joined to proclaim anyone clean. Get your fact straight. My point is that Tinubu is no worse than anyone else to deserve the constant attention, often coming at the expense of the neglect of their own leaders, of those who have nothing to do with the SW or even Lagos like the OP. In fact, given what all Nigerian political leaders are, Tinubu can correctly be said to be the better devil, by far, than most - especially by those his political conducts affect directly.

See my signature to note what I believe in. For efficacy and polity-secured progress, leaders should first be judged most passionately nd held to account by those they lead and those directly affected by the actions of these leaders. That is not the case on this forum and it is one of the reason Nigeria is failing i.e citizens unable to hold their direct leaders responsible yet have the energy to obsess about what/who should not concern them.

We then have People like you just want to be liked and that is why you are only concerned with hollow, cheap, populist, childish yet ultimately worthless and impractical utterances that cannot serve Nigeria in any capacity whatsoever given the reality on the ground sensible Nigerians must work with.

I bet you are the sort who sees no good in anything or anyone and never maturely looks at the reality of things yet vapidly sees himself a saint who can "make the difference". Yet where are you and what is your involvement? Is it too much for your sort to get involved and form a Party that will promote the ideology you tout? Or do you think Nigeria will see progress with 'saints' like you proclaiming everyone to be bad from afar?