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[quote author=Nuzo']A lot of people do care about what I think, cos they are not fooled like other Nigerians into believing your sudden love for the likes of Okorocha is non sentimental.

Simply give sunstantial reasons why you guys are afraid of listing Nigige? A staunch Acn member!

Good to know you are learning fast from Jarus on how to show love and defend your ethnic group but still know when to shove sentiments aside. [/quote]It is idiots like you I am talking about below given your penchant for falsely and shamelessly maligning the character of others with lies simply because this forum unites us. Check the archives to see I actively supported Okorocha during the Imo guber elections here on this forum. I always have.

Yet you dare to come here to talk about "sudden love" for Okorocha and insinuating I have ulterior motives simply because of the bigotry and hate you are borne with the makes you think every Yoruba is a hateful and biased person like you. People like you are disgusting because you don't care for fairness. You just malign the character of others blindly because of your bigotry. I have nothing to prove to a worthless and paranoid reprobate like you so keep up your lies the Nairaland archives ridicule. I am warning you to just avoid me instead of telling lies that suits your need to prove the hatred you insist others have for you. I am absolutely sick to the back teeth of characters like you.

I certainly won't remain on this forum taking insults from bigots, yobs, uncouth louts and clannish children who have no opinion of their own and can never suggest solutions. For me, It is one final push to see if Nigeria can be rescued. There is more to be enjoyed in life than reading nauseating garbage from those one would ordinarily have no inclination to associate with in real life merely because of the notion of "a better nation".

Jarus: Gbawe,

Could you put your last two posts together as an article and let's get published in newspapers. Too scientific to be limited to Nairaland.

Inbox me at jarusnairaland@yahoo.com

OK Jarus. I will summarise, edit and send you a finished version you can amend as appropriate.

I am totally with you regarding what you said in your first post here regarding how you are not as passionate about 2015 as you were 2011. I am the same. It is disappointing to note what is needed with clarity yet be frustrated by how the sentimental and biased nature of Nigerians now work to keep us in the conditions we want to escape.

If the APC get it wrong and the PDP succeed in delivering GEJ or another gradualist in 2015, then I am done with Nigerian politics. I certainly won't remain on this forum taking insults from bigots, yobs, uncouth louts and clannish children who have no opinion of their own and can never suggest solutions. For me, It is one final push to see if Nigeria can be rescued. There is more to be enjoyed in life than reading nauseating garbage from those one would ordinarily have no inclination to associate with in real life merely because of the notion of "a better nation".

[quote author=Nuzo']Classic case of conjuring propaganda from Nairaland to the Nigerian public. And who is in a better position to do this than our own Gbawe.

By the way, where is Ngige in all of this? All of a sudden, folks are preferring Okorocha over Ngige?

This is shocking to me.

How are you doing by the way?[/quote]Who cares about you and what you think? Call it propaganda or what you will. I am simply happy I am not afflicted with seeing everything through ethnic prism as you and others.

Afam4eva: No doubt, Soludo is the kind of president we should have but Nigeria has not gottent to that level where technocrats mount that exalted seat in Aso rock. The best he can get for now is being someone's VP. Politicians will most likely emerge for a long time to come and Soludo is not a politician.

Soludo is the wrong sort of technocrat because he is a capitalist with absolutely no moral fortitude or uprightness. He will create a billionaire class faster than you can say Coca-Cola. It is very important to fully appreciate the problem before one seeks solution. Nigeria, for now, simply needs a very brave, social-leaning and pro-people leader with unshakeable political will. The solutions to Nigeria's problem does not need Rocket science analysis as folks like you think. More important is uprightness, the readiness to eschew greed and materialism plus the bravery to do what is in the best interest of Nigeria regardless of whose Ox will be gored. Let us for once, and for the sake of our nation, given how badly we have fallen, stop this "my local champion" way of viewing things.

Soludo will be a terrible choice because, even for all his innate brilliance, his highly materialistic and grotesquely capitalist leaning means he is the sort, via chasing aggressive weath creation, who will cause far-reaching problems like the credit crunch where a few become hideously rich and majority are condemned to misery. Soludo, for example, will not handle the fuels subsidy scam different to the timid and compromised GEJ who preferred heaping misery on Nigerians than go after the crook who deserved life sentences for their treasonous scams.

Nigeria needs someone who will come in and predicate progress on the need to use our wealth to make all Nigerians the best they can be. When that is done, everything will take care of itself. It is brave, pro-talakawa leaders ,who have never showed interest in materialism, we should be looking for. It is only a leader like that who will shun the status quo that has seen Nigeria fail because the majority of our wealth remains concentrated in the hands of a few.

let me ask you a question. Why do you think GEJ cannot accede to Ribadu's suggestion we stop selling our oil through traders months after he got the instruction? Because doing that will instantly cut off the food of 'awon boys' !!! Can you tell me Soludo will act any different to GEJ? Yet we know Buhari certainly will and likely Ribadu also. Unshakeable political will and a commitment to doing what is best for Nigeria are the qualities most needed in the next Nigerian politician not economic or financial brilliance.

Aliyu, Lamido et al, over to you. Your bluff has been called and you now run the risk of being discredited as lying hacks if you do not act. Like the old saying goes "when you have to shoot shoot don't talk".

Why are you guys entertaining insincere9gerian and the bigots he has attracted to this thread? Insincere9gerian is no bigot in my opinion but he is a personality-focused mischief-maker who deliberately ignores the obvious to initiate deviousness that unthinking bigots and cretins will gobble up.

I would like to ask him to tell us what became of Ghana's former President Kufour after he left office. We may be too biased and sentimental in Nigeria to the extent we fight each other to a standstill but a rationale and balanced world still exists outside our nation appreciative and supportive of solutions providers. It will make ample space for Fashola even if he falls victim to the maxim "a prophet is not accepted in his home town". Fashola has never come across as a desperate or "do-or-die" politician. The man knows his own worth and would probably be just as happy assisting South Tome, Ghana, Burkina Faso or the UN , in advisory roles, amongst the many Nations and organisations that would be falling over themselves for his service.

I would advise the myopic OP to quit worrying about Fashola, whose future is secure whatever happens, and start thinking of how he can better himself and improve his own prospect beyond GEJ's 2015 departure.

Genius100: Guys, a northerner will be president in 2015. Since the military era, southerners would have been the president 14 out of the 16 years. So the powers that be will zone the presidency to the north.

Realistically, the credible northern candidates are Buhari, Ribadu, El Rufai, and Sanusi.

Of the 4, Ribadu is probably the most electable.

My brother, in my opinion, you are right except for the statement that Ribadu is the most electable. In the South yes but I believe the politicians would be looking at issues from a perspective of nationwide efficacy. I think many southerners make the mistake of seeing Ribadu's candidacy with southern preponderance. Buhari enjoys cult-like popularity in the North. The sort that means his name will be the only one Northerners will see if written on a paper with the names of Ribadu, EL Rufai and Sanusi.

The other names might as well be written in indelible ink for most ordinary Northerners who ultimately matter above the educated, well-fed and exposed class. The opinion may be that it is not worth sacrificing Buhari's sure banker vote-winning status in the North in an effort to tackle his unpopularity in the South when that problem could be addressed with a charismatic and liked Southern performer like Fashola or Okorocha.

The consideration, for political tacticians, would be the dilemma of gambling on trying to make Ribadu or any other 'young gun' popular enough in the North to sweep the region as Buhari can. Let us bear in mind that the analysts who are stakeholders will not be as emotional as we are here. They will pragmatically accept what the average Nigerian voter is and try to accommodate his rigidity and dedication to voting according to considerations that should not and does not matter elsewhere.

If I have learnt anything from 2011, as a passionate Ribadu supporter who wanted change anchored around a young technocrat, it is to accept that the ordinary Nigerian, as unpalatable as it is to take in, is a totally sentimental individual. Tacticians must account for that and not go gambling with 'sophisticated' choices the polity simply lacks the requisite sophistication to appreciate and support dogmatically.

Let us face the fact. For what the world is today, Ribadu was probably the best choice for the thinking man in 2011. In most Nations, where voters are sophisticated enough to eschew sentiment and biases, Ribadu would most likely have won comfortably given a combination of things that matters to politically sophisticated folks worldwide such as youth, vigour, efficacy in public office, patriotism, innate bravery, dedication to duty and to the people, undoubted record of inspired solutions provisions, etc.

Yet how well did Ribadu do against GEJ and Buhari? My brother, I thank God for my exposure, education and good fortune but I am no longer under any illusions as per what the average Nigerian is. My people? Yes they are and I would never deny them. Yet do I wish they could be different? Hell yeah !!! Until they are, I must account for their 'peculiarity' and work with their idiosyncrasies. That will be the conclusion of APC tacticians also.

Ufeolorun: Am not total sold on El rufai too but he is the only relatively credible Northerner i can really think of at the moment.Ribadu isnt a politician at all,he doesnt have the skills that was so glaring in the last election and remember Apc will be full of the usual Nigerian politician with past records so Buhari candidacy will make them squrmish like spongebob squarepant
Whatever they choose to do,they have a real chance if they show serious political maturity.

To be honest religion wasn't really a political issue,especially for most southerners but the emergence of Goodluck Jonathan has made it one and they are going to use CAN again for the same purpose unless true Christians stand up to save that body.
Fashola would be the most ideal candidate if APC can convince the Northerners to drop their sense of entitlement to the 2015 top tickets.Secondly, build a robust response to expected use of religion as a wedge issue by pdp

Dude, sorry to say but have you been on Mars for the last 2 years? EL Rufai is finished as a politician !!! "Credible" is the last thing associated with him these days !! Try "Insanity", "insincerity", "immaturity", "extremist", "liar", "highly strung", "unstable", "divisive", needlessly pugnacious" etc. As things stand, El Rufai has damaged himself beyond repair. He has made himself very 'scary' , unappealing and off-putting.

@topic.

Jarus, the order is going to be Northern Presidential candidate and Southern VP. These sort of threads, where everyone gets to speculate and produce 'wish lists', are enjoyable but when we come to the reality of things the Only realistic Presidential candidates are Buhari or Ribadu. Simple as that. Buhari, by far, remains the greatest vote winner in the North and I am betting the APC will calculate that, with good work, it will be easier to neutralise his 'unacceptability' in the South than risk losing the election all for the sake of the "fresh blood" those of us who are educated and informed are asking for.

The analysts and statisticians in the APC will know it is a majority of emotional, divided and clannish people who will be voting not Nigerians with two masters degrees rooting unrealistically for Utomi. If GEJ gets the PDP ticket, the North will vote even more passionately for Buhari because, beyond emotion, everyone knows things have worsened for the North under GEJ, especially security, and no sane person votes for the continuity of a very abject and bleak situation. If a Northerner gets the PDP ticket, I doubt he will still poll as many votes as Buhari but certainly votes will be split in the North and other regions will have more importance in this scenario.

Whatever scenario, I think APC will pragmatically settle on Buhari with the notion of addressing his 'shortcomings' outside the North because we all saw how poorly Ribadu performed in the North in the last election yet he is the next visibly obvious choice to Buhari as a Northerner who is now an "experienced" Presidential candidate . It may be too much hard work, just because some are hankering for change, to gamble on pushing Buhari aside for someone like Ribadu only for the APC to then completely rely on successfully selling Ribadu to the North. It is an experiment that may fail flatly and I doubt it will even be regarded as a safe bet to entertain.

Ultimately, opinion is likely to be that Buhari remains surest banker in the North and that there is plenty of time to make his overall candidacy appealing to the south with a VP like Okorocha. Sadly GEJ has 'primed' the religious antenna of most Nigerians and this may play against Fashola as VP choice. If GEJ loses the PDP ticket to a Northerner, as I expect will happen, said Northerner will likely run with a Christian southerner as Atiku planned to run with Soludo last time. The APC may therefore not wish to gamble with a moslem-moslem ticket because these are not the best of times to expect Nigerians to be politically sophisticated and rise above bias. It is a battle for hearts and mind and the current policy of the PDP is to divide Nigerians, stoke paranoia and highlight sectional/religious differences. The APC may have no choice but to play the game.

If Buhari is forced to stand down by the stakeholders within the new Party, then the APC will have resigned itself to the hard work of marketing 'junior Buhari' (Ribadu) in the North assured in the knowledge he would be relatively popular in the South paired with a visible Southern performer and 'good guy'.

It is really the VP slot I cannot predict accurately but I think, as much as we all rate Fashola, the APC may consider the currently toxic and rancorous pulse of the Nation and decide to play safe with a Christian Southern VP. Then again, if one man has the broad appeal to make folks look beyond religion then it is Fashola. Many in the APC may argue his case from the perspective that Fashola is trusted and respected by all. Their argument may carry the day to ensure Fashola is the VP cnadidate for the APC.

All in all I think it will be Buhari/Ribadu paired with Okorocha/Fashola or Oshiomhole. If we are talking APC, folks should forget all talks of Fashola/Okorocha or any other Southerner for President. The characters and considerations behind the merger remains the same as in 2011 when it was Northern President and Southern VP. The case is even far stronger for that combination today. Folks can be as emotional as they want but a pragmatically big part of things for politicians, that the average man on the street remains too emotional to appreciate, falls on 'appeasing' the system to gain peace. This is very important to the politicians and not many will want 4 more years uncertainty and hesitancy that holds an entire nation to ransom. GEJ was a gamble in 2011. Today all doubts are removed and the entire world knows he is unconcerned about dealing with the insecurity of Nigeria. Even the West, in self-interest, would covertly work against GEJ returning because it is another 4 years of harder work for everyone. Even in the PDP, a Northerner would likely fly the flag in the end, all Presidential 'gra gra' and spending accounted for.

Some of us cannot and will never think like politicians. The thing they all want, worldwide, is the peace to lead or loot. Let us face it. GEJ will always be resisted. Had it being he is one to be brave in tackling security passionately, then some , to include even the West, may fall behind him in the spirit of confronting "evil" head on. As it is, no one, on any side, will be a fan of GEJ's dithering inaction and preference for praying and pleading while the nation burns. At the end of the day, Nigeria is bigger than GEJ. Those above me and you who make things happen, before we head to the polling booth, will appreciate this. It won't be what some immature and clannish folks want to hear but I believe the system will settle on a Northern President and Southern VP in 2015. For the APC, there is no best 11. More like a choice probably restricted to around 6 individuals.

kingoflag: David Cameron is only saying this because he wants APC to field him as it's Presidential candidate so he can contest GEJ for the Presidency on the platform of the Ngabti and Aboki party.

Totally correct. Parasite Cameron wants to come and control the oil in the backyard of others!!!! No to Cameron for President !!! GEJ till 2050 and then Nigeria can separate.

[quote author=Nuzo']Why only Nigeria? I rather you say the world should bury their head in shame.

Same Kim is being paid huge amount of money to attend shows, bithdays and parties in USA, Europe and in the Arab world.
Same Kim millions of people around the world pay huge amount of money so they could watch her on TV?

Why is Nigeria's different?

Besides, why would a pregnant celebrity of her status make an over 26 hours flight to and from Nigeria for peanuts?

Do you know how much she was paid to be in Bahrain a few months ago?

The question is; did you attend the Darey show for the sake of Kim?[/quote]Superb points. It is a worldwide problem i.e the shallow worship and deification of celebrities. Noteworthy is the moral decline worldwide that means celebrity status can even be achieved through infamy, immorality and controversial behaviour. Kardashian , whatever she does today, essentially gained fame as a porn star originally. That is the bottom line.

It is the way social networking is shaping the mentality of the world and conferring a status of "special user of the universe" on some individuals. Once you get into this group, then you are vacuously adored, indulged and given the 'freedom of the city' everywhere. It is like David Beckham a 37 yeyears old washed-up footballer being paid £150,00.00 per week by PSG. Who does not know that Beckham was courted so expensively in France for his celebrity status? Yet brilliant scientist are struggling to gain funding for potentially life saving research worldwide whereas Arab Billionaires can pay $2 million for Beyonce to come to the middle east and perform privately for a spoilt brat Prince. The world has gone mad and anyone who wants to maintain a good sense of perspective must work at it with deliberate efforts centred around rejecting herd mentality and unthinking followership. We should all retain a sense of perspective and not be quick to savage ourselves alone for what is a general problem.

@Op.

Your situation is not unique at all and whatever you meet on the ground should not make you negatively revise the pride you have for your ethnic group and Nation. Granted you can feel very disappointment but you must channel this in the right way or disown Nigeria completely and fully embrace the UK as your nation.

We have all been in your shoes. You are an adult now. The first thing to do is to calm down and ask yourself why things are the way they are. If you really love Nigeria, are willing to stay the course and perceive yourself to be part of change, rather than a bystander making demands on others, then you will make the obvious connection to note what has led to the underdevelopment you see and the reason some of us ended up here on Nairaland and in the politics sections specifically.

If you want to have answers for the underdevelopment you saw, begin by looking into how people are led and what your own part is/should be in the overall equation. For example, you can ponder whether your role is to be the leader who may bring the change you desire or you may prefer to get enlightened and be part of the process to produce the leaders who will change things for the better. You may even simply want to get involved online engaging other Nigerians to see if you can better your own understanding of the problem and contribute towards efforts to make Nigerians understand that they must demand more from leaders.

Smugness, inaction and the disengagement of yourself from the search for solutions should not be an option.

@Op.

Bruv, as soon as APC registration forms become available, I will send you one. Very obvious you badly want to join up. You have talked of nothing else for the past week.

Deep Sight: Sorry, i'm a bit slow today. Can you please clarify this post and speak specifically.

can i suggest 4 cups of strong black coffee instead?

Pennywise: If Jonathan was an effective leader, no one will pay any attention to this Governor. Unfortunately he has disappointed everybody. Infact he has failed. His image makers and jobbers can scream all they want but that is what they are paid for. We expect no less. Come 2015 he must leave Aso rock.

This is the undiluted truth even as sycophants do their best to mop up the sordid mess on the floor caused by GEJ and GEJ alone. His dramatic loss of goodwill, even beyond Nigeria, comes because his performance , and the nauseating antics of his government, is way below even the minimum expected of Nigeria in this day and age.

He runs the Nation so ineptly, he must be the butt of joke among world leaders. For example many world leaders will wonder why GEJ has failed to act when a public document, being the submission of a solution-provision committee, suggests that Nigeria , as the only major oil exporter doing so, must immediately stop the odious and corruption-abetting practice of selling its endowment through traders.

How can you receive a directly suggested solution like that you have total discretion and power to adopt immediately yet you fail to act in the interest of what is best for the nation you lead? They will wonder why this man abets theft against his nation for even one second if not a thief himself !!!!!!!

It is glaring inaction like that, whatever his sycophants want to come out with, that makes many home and abroad to view GEJ as being a big part of the problem and a compromised, gradualist 'tool'.

ikwere militant: we re waitng mr politikal analyst

We will see Mr.Feudalist.

taharqa: Yea!! The way he 'outsmartd everyone' in d last Ondo Elections... What position did he 'carry' again?? Just asking...

Can you ever use your brain at all assuming you even have one ? What has a gubernatorial general elections relying on the voting public, that returned a performing incumbent, got to do with intra-Party political strategizing reliant on getting other politicians on board? It is not by force to talk. Olodo.

figment232: My friend that is the name of the game pursue them with EFCC.When some bigots that have enough skeletons in their cupboard dere to confront the C-in-C they should be dealt with accordingly.

They were not bigots when they went against the Northern consensus candidate to deliver the delegates GEJ wanted. Now, suddenly, they are bigots for reminding GEJ that "one good turn deserves another". These Northern PDP Governors are not called "Moderate" for nothing. You can certainly disagree with their stance but it is patently unfair to call them bigots.

eGuerrilla: Agreement or no agreement, what's stopping any Northern governor from putting his own popularity to the test?

I certainly "agree"( ) with this opinion. Can anyone imagine Tinubu running to the ref every second and begging for a freekick two yards away from the opponents goal? Tinubu will simply out-plan, out-dribble, outsmart and outscore everyone !!!

These Northern PDP governors should come to terms with GEJ's treachery and do what they have to do because we all already know Mr.President openly pledged to do one term. Is it not the reason why OBJ is no longer in his corner and now touting Lamido? There really is a need for some to stop belabouring the pledge GEJ made and 'cracking' on with real strategy that will deliver the Party ticket for anyone keen to fight for it.

Bringing out some document does not make their case legally enforcible. Anyone who wants to become President should get into the arena and show the belly for a fight. Like or hate Atiku, he has already shown his strategy by announcing that "zoning is dead and GEJ is free to contest in 2015".

figment232: GEJ should now realise that the battle line is drawn.He should damn any consequemces and send the EFCC after these good for nothing corrupt governors especially That BABA ALIYU with his overgrown stomach.Hediots mtcheeew!

Some of you with your blind hatred of certain folks and blind support of others. Is Aliyu more corrupt than GEJ? Next minute you will deceitfully say you want a better Nigeria yet you are here, when even our African neigbhours are becoming models of democracy, encouraging dictatorial conduct and abuse of power from the apex office in the land. Why not ask GEJ to fight corruption on its own merit rather than suggest he uses the EFCC to hound and victimise political opponents? Clearly many of us are as bad as our politicians and we probably deserve the leadership we have currently.

Demdem: I love this part of ur post. I hope Bigots will be able to make sense out of it. its a family affair inside the killer party itself.

They won't because most are too far gone in blind hatred to realise that actions have consequences in life and that every situation must be inspected on its own unique merit especially with attendant focus on what that portends for the politics of today.

Demdem: well, somehow u are right. But remember that it was a PDP arrangement. Let him secure the killer party ticket first with all these agreements here and there. The issue wont even get to Nigerians if he cant secure the ticket.

Thank you !!! I will never understand why Nigerians, often well-educated, choose to be sentimental and biased, to the extent of blinding themselves to what is obvious, when ethnicity is thrown into Politics. This is not the North bullying GEJ. Nothing of the sort. It is GEJ reneging on the pledge he made to Northern governors in his Party to secure the support that defeated the Northern consensus candidate i.e Atiku.

I don't know why some love revising history once the ethnic angle is worked by treacherous characters. Anyway, some will realise why the PDP is regarded as a "Northern Party". I will first urge some children here to go and look at the PDP voting delegates according to region. With GEJ's open treachery, let us see if even one Northern candidate will dare vote for GEJ. South West delegates Nko? Is it SS and SE PDP delegates alone that will win it for GEJ?

Why do people think team GEJ has thrown the idea of "automatic return" for it's Presidential and gubernatorial candidates in the public domain if not that some now realise that GEJ stands no chance of gaining the PDP ticket under the system of delegate voting?

[quote author=GARRI (x7)]What's Aniko Briggs Saying? That GEJ signed a document under duress? That's silly and ridiculous!!

GEJ needed the support of the Northern Governors and in return for their support, he signed a one-term pact with them. So where's the idea of duress coming from?

He can renege if he wishes to, but playing the victim card is‎​ downright silly.... [/quote]Absolutely correct. GEJ is totally free to disregard his pledge. That is not what really matters. Let us see him get the support to defeat the Northerners who will challenge him for his Party's seat this time around. Many Nigerians are simply too sentimental and feudal to see what matters.

[quote author=ekt_bear]An excellent question.

Mindboggling to me that they'd even consider fielding a PDP guy.[/quote]What makes you think they did? Do you just believe everything you read to include suggestions that sound entirely ludicrous and totally implausible? OK, America and the UK are going ahead with a leadership swap. Obama will be Prime Minister of the UK and David Cameron will be President of the USA.

@Topic.

OP, you always show no capacity for pragmatic politicking and continuously display a disconnection with past events that shape the future. When the merger was first mooted in 2010, by ACN,CPC and ANPP bigwigs, it was for Ribadu to step down for Buhari or Vice versa and the eventual Presidential candidate paired with a Southerner. What exactly do you think has changed since then to reverse that order?

I know this is 'silly season' where anyone suggests what/who they want, even when they have no right to given their past position, but we should try to bear the politics of things in mind and refrain from showing disrespect for the effort of others with vaingloriously unrealistic talk. This thread is no different to the one where Papabrowne crafted a ludicrous story out of some perceived "beautiful bride" status he insisted Oshiomhole has. You guys should get real and start showing respect for those who abided with the idea of the merger, sacrificed for it, showed belief in it and made it happen. They will, for reasons even more valid today than in 2010-2011, pick the candidates likely to original plan and template.

By the way, and even looking at those you mention from a perspective of individual political attractiveness, do you remember Ngige backed down in 2011 when called upon while Utomi backed out of the race totally to endorse Shekarau? Ribadu showed himself a leader and 'stayer' to forge ahead doggedly to the end. So Ribadu should now be relegated behind those two? Get real. You may be too sentimental to see what matters but stakeholders know qualities that screams "leader" and actions that shows weakness and lack of devotion that cannot 'rally the troops' in the heat of battle.

http://mobile.saharareporters.com/news-page/ribadu-says-running-mate-yet-be-chosen-former-governor-ngige-running-senate?page=2

Ribadu Says Running Mate Yet To Be Chosen; Former Governor Ngige Running For Senate
February 15, 2011 - 02:06 — siteadmin



Hours after announcing that the former governor of the Anambra state, Chris Ngige, has been selected to be Nuhu Ribadu's running mate in next April's presidential elections, the candidate of the Action Congress of Nigeria has reversed that decision, according to Mr. Ribadu's campaign office.
SaharaReporters learnt that Ngige became more interested in running for the Senate against former Minister of Information, Dora Akunyili, and therefore opted out of the vice-presidential slot this evening.

Earlier today, SaharaReporters reported the decision that Ngige will be the vice-presidential candidate to Mr. Ribadu, but by the close of the day, that situation seemed to have changed drastically.
The party has gone back to the drawing board to look for another choice to fill the position of Ribadu's running mate. Our source said they have up to February 21, 2011 to make up their mind on another running mate.
It was unclear why a final decision was not released to the press after Dr. Ngige, Ribadu's campaign director general, Chief Audu Ogbeh, Ribadu and another member of his campaign team met today at his campaign headquarters in Abuja to agree on Ngige's candidature.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201103310522.html

Nigeria: Utomi Quits Presidential Race, Endorses Shekarau
BY CHARLES AJUNWA, 31 MARCH 2011


The presidential candidate of the Social Democratic Mega Party (SDMP), Prof. Pat Utomi, has said he is withdrawing from the presidential election. He said he would on Thursday in Abuja submit his withdrawal letter to the leadership of the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC).

Utomi also declared support for the presidential candidate of the All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP) and Kano State Governor, Alhaji Ibrahim Shekarau, whom he openly asked his friends and supporters to vote for in the presidential election.

Walphem: you got it spot-on, I had to stop following the thread after reading your post.

We will get a lot more of these types of 'cheese' thrown in the public domain for unthinking Mice to consume as the PDP gets more desperate.

To put into perspective what the APC is, I will ask the entire forum to partake in a simple experiment. Before GEJ came to divide Nigeria along ethnic,religious and sectional lines, we all agreed PDP was a huge problem and touted many names as potential 'saviours'.

I now ask everyone, to look back and think of who they favoured back then as a transformational President. Which political Party does the individual you spoke so passionately in favour of yesterday, in regard to the Nigerian Presidency, belong to today?


We all know the 'roll call' of good guys we have always mentioned to death as transformational leaders. E.g Utomi, Ribadu, Buhari, El Rufai, Okorocha, Ngige, Fashola, Oshiomhole,Fayemi etc, etc. Tell me which Party they all now unite under today?

The answer shows what the APC is and why, even with many setbacks, it will defeat the PDP. Folks can craft all the excuses in the world they want to disguise their fear, bigotry, clannishness and myopic hatred of other ethnic groups but we still all have to deal with facts and reality in life. The fact that all the individuals many of us have touted as good guys we want to see lead Nigeria, at one time or the other, now call the APC their political home is enough to make the clear-minded Nigerian understand the desperation of the PDP and the real motivation of the many anti-Nigerian elements on this forum who supported some politicians passionately yesterday but consider them "persona non grata" today merely because they have now aligned with the APC.

Say what you will about Melaye but dude is cool, maverick and charismatic in ways far beyond the arrogant 'stiffs' who dominate Nigerian politics. That pose on the bicycle, in combat gear, is Sankara-esque. I have met many Nigerian politicians and they are mainly tedious bores and self-absorbed empty-barrels always judgemental of anything/anyone not consonant with their myopic 'jeun-jeun' thinking and limited outlook. Melaye is certainly not the typical Nigerian Politician.

CyberG: So in all there efforts, all you see is "ibo are...." whatever?? You people have a case beyond inferior complex! Look, this is not about ibo or APGA, that is the most junior partner with 0.5 leg in and 1.5 leg out. Let the real patriotic Nigerians try their best in APC and even if they lose, history will judge them well for putting in an honest effort! As for those who look at everything with their tribal/religious lenses, good morning! Una go all suffer, I will be here laughing in derision the RETARDEENEES who cut off their nose to spite their face!

This is the crux of the matter.

0lumide: All these one na spec... Wait and see..

The best chance for the party is Buhari/Fashola..

If the party is indeed putting personal interest aside, They will know if any big wig in PDP like Mark or Atiku come out to contest, Buhari/Fashola will defeat both in NW, NC, NE and SW. SS/SE can not impose any candidate on Nigeria. Jonathan can not win states like Akwa Ibom, Delta, Edo and as it turns out Ngige's state without rigging. Jonathan can only win Rivers and Bayelsa in a free and fair election maybe SE states too but apart from that, Edo is off the SS band wagon, so is Delta and Akwa Ibom. The entire SS shiit is an Ijaw manipulation to have a region they can control. Ever noticed the Ijaws are the ones collecting the Amnesty money? They the ones in charge of "Niger Delta" affairs even though their only enclave is Bayelsa? What about the Igbos in Rivers and Delta? The Edo, Bini, Yorubas(Itsekiri, Ilaje, Olukumi, Akoko Edo etc), Annang, Efik, Ogoni, Urhobo,etc.. All these groups are lumped into the fallacy of SS/ND and yet Ijaws run the affairs?

Ijaws like the SE, lack political sophistication. They don't know how to win the hearts of neighboring ethnics. That is why the cookie will crumble in 2015. ND/SS is no longer a political machine the Ijaws can use and they know this very very well. Edwin Clarke will just die if he continues to stress himself over Jonathan, Joe is a failed attempt.

If really Buhari is to step down, then Ribadu/Fashola is the next best thing we can have seeing as El Rufai has a tainted history but he is now speaking the truth but still, El Rufai can't be trusted with power. Buhari/Fashola or Ribadu/Fashola. The merger will have to put Fashola on any ticket they go with else they are really not ready to wrestle power from PDP.

Although I'll like to see younger than Buhari candidates but the truth is Buhari/Fashola is still very very very good. Even if all Buhari will do is just one term. We need a man of Buhari caliber to clean the system. I'm not saying it's only Buhari that can clean the system but Buhari is the only popular and proven one. Ngige might have what it takes to make Nigeria good but he is not as popular as Buhari or sellable as Buhari. The merger will need to be very strategic and not pushing Buhari to back down because it won't help if they lose. Buhari won the last election fair and square..

You are generally correct in my opinion. If Buhari does not run then it will almost automatically be Ribadu. The problem is that most Nigerians are simply too sentimental and biased to be visionary or adept at solutions-provision. They speak based on what they want to happen rather than what is feasibly likely to happen. Right on this forum, I defended Ribadu's brave choice of running in 2011 when many here came out with the usual "Ribadu too much of a newby to run" garbage.

I told folks it was strategically clever of Ribadu to contest because even if he does not win he will have done his future chances good since he gains the visibility and "experienced" Presidential candidate status that will mean he will have stolen a March on the likes of El Rufai, Sanusi et al for the future.

Now, in the minds of many, it is naturally Ribadu if not Buhari. This is a general lesson about planning and thinking long term. Ribadu has participated in a Presidential election as a candidate. That, in itself, means he is in a stratosphere that automatically makes stakeholders respect him and view his choice as viable and electorally 'superior'.

Moves: Ermmm... you guys believe the dude will leave PDP and join APC, and all the existing APC guys will just handover the presidential ticket to him. If Buhari is not running the only northerner that comes close is Ribadu...with any of Okorocha, Ngige, Soludo or Fashola as VP.

Correct more or less bar the inclusion of Soludo. Soludo is a PDP member. It is important for people to understand that APC choices, for the top two positions, will be limited to influential and visibly known members of the ACN, CPC, ANPP and of course Rochas. There is nothing, as far as top positions go, for any recently decamped PDP politician. Nada.

eggheaders: the tribal warlords are here again.I don't wanna start this back and forth with them anymore. to the topic, that ticket looks promising tambuwal/fashola.we really need a break from this putrid air.

Forget it. The most intelligent politicians, like Tinubu, fully understand the aspect of politics that is about perception and image . It would be mentally damaging for the APC , after many sagacious characters have put sterling efforts into the merger from day one, to then go and court a serving PDP Politician as Presidential candidate. That won't happen because it defies logic and goes against what needs to be done to achieve a defeat of the PDP.

Even a child knows it is a self-destructive and losing strategy let alone the ultra-intelligent analysts who will realise the APC stand no chance if it cannot establish an independent identity using its own sagacious, most influential and best known characters. No ex-PDP member will get President or VP slot in the APC.

blink182: Rubbish, who is tambuwal? Fair and square, there are by far better men in apc.

This is the bottom line.

princehb: With this only, it is safe to say, "Nigeria is a FAILED state".
Just like some peeps said, GEJ is not serious about fighting against corruption., how will he be serious when he is involved. his party is involved. the current dispensation is corrupt and he is the head.
saying Nigeria is improving is a mere figment of our overactive imaginations.

We are certainly getting there as many prominent Nigerians are now warning openly. For me, Nigeria is a very fragile State. we will certainly pass through other stages, if things continue unchanged, to become a failed State. For example, what is highlighted below in red , concerning a fragile State, clearly illustrates what all sane observers will agree this Maina situation clearly and unambiguously reveals about Nigeria.

http://www.e-ir.info/2012/03/06/towards-a-nuanced-understanding-of-failed-states/

Fragile State: significantly susceptible to crisis; institutional arrangements embody and preserve the conditions of the crisis
Crisis state: under acute stress; reigning institutions face serious contestation and are potentially unable to manage conflicts and shocks
Failed state: no longer able to perform its basic security and development functions; has no effective control over its territory and borders

Tolexander: Oh my God!
Naija movie dey very interesting. Since all this while the senate has taken the responsibility to track down the fraudulence act of Mr Maina. The senate even one time said they leave the fraudster to God to deal with him. When they realised that things are no more easy with the pensioners, the senate decided to shift the responsibility to the President to hand over Mr Maina to them.
The president kept mute for a while later ordered head of service to punish Maina just for going AWOL instead of the fraudulence allegation.
The latest news: Mr Maina has absconded.
Could all these episode of the fraud allegation and the trial be called a 'delay tactics' to aid Mr Maina perfect the work he started and abscond?

Go figure !!!! This is the most openly shameless Nigerian Presidency I can remember. Everything is turned into a Nollywood Drama, where the bad guy always wins, under this morally bankrupt and thick-skinned government. It is totally appropriate Nwabueze and other prominent Nigerians came out recently to say Nigeria is becoming a failed state. They are totally right this is another characteristic of a failed state on display right here. What a shame.