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mikeansy: Why was Odein Ajumogobia removed as Foreign minister anyway? He is one of the best Foreign Minister I seen since my adult life


This is another political party formed on nothing.

Honestly if this is true does anyone know what could politically bring Ribadu and Kalu together? Ignore the noise about who is corrupt and who is anti-corruption. But just consider that Orji being a man who made his money in Business and a bit elitist you will expect to be on the Right of politics while Ribadu who though is the son of the establishment seems to proclaim values that are leftist in nature.

So what brings them together?

Absolutely nothing ...... but Nigerian politicians do this all the time. I.e throw ridiculous and inane ideas in the public place to 'test the water' knowing that they can always count on Nigerians to be emotional rather than rational, pragmatic and circumspect. When Ribadu is well established in the APC, the only Party capable of knocking the PDP off its perch, is this the time to be joining Kalu ,who is now treated like a leper by all sensible politicians, on a ludicrous adventure that is dead on arrival?

Anyway, the sentimental nature of Nigerians and their gullibility will be exposed once again when the likes of Ribadu come out to say they have absolutely nothing to do with this. Say that the Pope resigned to join the PDP and there would still be Nigerians who will take that announcement seriously. Kalu is well known for 'bouncing' wild dreams and delusions of grandeur off the gullible Nigerian public, to gain feedback, so I am really not surprised he is phantom chairman of a "new" political group uniting Ribadu, Obanikoro, Bode George et al. This is Kalu's huge ego playing the public again. He is accepted nowhere currently and has to craft a bogus tale of political support just as he claimed the USA backed him above all else to be President of Nigeria.

drnoel: Orji uzor is obviously too desperate even to use his watch dog the sunnewspaper to spread Propaganda. After this rubbish in print, how does one ever read sunnewspaper again. I mean knowing they print jargon....

The only person who gets it here 100%. Well done to you sir. Kalu is well known for these sort of unbelievable antics to the extent I am even shocked anyone can discuss this senseless garbage. The man is an outcast rejected by virtually all Parties everywhere and now , by force, wishes to align himself with credible names.

Is this not how Kalu, when he wanted to run for the Presidency several years ago, put an article in the public domain that ridiculously claimed Kalu was the candidate supported for the Job by the USA because he "had structures on the ground already" ? Logic-defying propaganda from a sidelined and irrelevant politician.

mens dept: Well Nigeria is an island, and island of bad roads, no light, and complacent idiots like you that would rather talk about Gays. WHat roads are Gays going to drive on in Nigeria that isn't going to kill them, or see them paying N50 to Oga for "Well Done".

How are the Gays going to be able to watch their favorite Gay shows without having to go and buy fuel to on gen with? How will a Gay treat a common pneumonia in Nigeria when the health indutry has been outsourced to Germany?

SO yes, We are an island

I totally agree with you that priorities are misplaced but that is not the fault of ordinary Nigerians. We have no influence over a Senate that fails to pass crucial bills yet obsessively make the hounding of gays and lesbians number one priority.

[quote author=Yeske!]Like it or not, gays are here to stay and there's nothing we all can do about it. Any proponent of gay rights would be tagged a gay but fact remains that they are what they are not by choice but by inclination.[/quote]Totally agree. We have to deal with issues instead of throwing tantrums like children. Unless Nigerians unrealistically think we can be an Island of homophobia, then we better appreciate that gays are here to stay and to be accommodated.

Below is the manifesto of the ACN. I just hope we will now move away from discussing issues from a patronising perspective that seeks to show our leaders as unintelligent buffoons when the fact is that many, while immoral and gluttonous, are far more intelligent than the average user of this site.

They may not do the right thing as they pledge to, but it is entirely insulting to our Nation for Nigerians to talk as if our Parties do not even bother catering to the basics that grants legitimacy and purpose to Political Parties. I can knock out a manifesto for a brand new Party that will impress the hell out of those who don't understand what really matters in relation to Nigeria i.e political will and leadership sincerity.

For now, and given the dearth of political will in most of our leaders, we should quit with this vacuous obsession with ideologies and manifestos. The most brilliant manifesto mean nothing if the political will is absent to make it do what it says on the tin. In conclusion, all Parties have political ideology and manifestos even if we prefer to be flippantly dismissive than look for information extremely easy to find in this day and age. What Nigerians Parties lack are leaders with political will to deliver holistically on manifesto pledges and policy documents.

http://actioncongressnigeria.org/manifesto/

With all due respect to the OP, Nigerian Parties all have core ideologies that indicate their political inclination. We must eschew the sort of intellectual laziness, in this information age, that makes us very flippant and dismissive towards our own. In so far as Political Parties are not full of the uneducated, then they will have ideologies because choosing core ideology outlining what a Party stands for is not exactly rocket science given that political Parties have existed for so long and that political science is a very well-researched and documented field of fundamental human interaction.

Nigerian Parties will not come to give us leaflets about their core ideology and manifesto but we can search for ourselves to find the information we need rather than dismissively assume that Nigerian political Parties, often hosting very intelligent men and women, operate without ideology and manifesto. That is ludicrous because too many templates exist that will ensure even a schoolboy of 16 can have an impressive manifesto if he starts a political Party tomorrow. What is valid is that Nigerian political Parties do not adhere to their core ideology or comply with their manifesto. I really don't understand why it is easier for us to cast aspersion on our own unfairly than simply do a bit of research. All Nigerian Parties have core ideologies and manifestos as obtains elsewhere. They are not deficient in this respect. Where they lag behind is the failure to pursue laudable plans laid out in their respective manifestos once in office.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Congress_of_Nigeria_(ACN)

Action Congress Of Nigeria
Chairman Chief Bisi Akande
Secretary-General Lawal Shuaibu
Founded 2006
Headquarters 16 Bissau Street, Wuse, Zone 6, Abuja
Ideology Classical liberalism
Colours Green, black, white
Position in national political spectrum Progressivism
Seats in the Senate
18 / 109
Seats in the House
74 / 360
Governorships
6 / 36

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_for_Progressive_Change

Congress for Progressive Change

Chairman Tony Momoh
Secretary-General Buba Galadima
Founded 2009[1]
Headquarters Plot 1132 Utako District, Abuja[2]
Ideology Social change, Federalism
Colours Pale blue
Politics of Nigeria
Political parties
Elections

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Nigeria_Peoples_Party

All Nigeria Peoples Party
Chairman Chief Okey Nwosu [1]
Secretary-General Hon.Lawan Shettima Ali
Founded 1998
Headquarters Bassan Plaza Plot 759, Central Business Area, Abuja
Ideology Conservatism, Anti-communism, Capitalism and Unionism
Colours Green, white, blue

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Progressives_Grand_Alliance

All Progressives Grand Alliance (APGA)
Chairman Chief (Sir) Victor Umeh
Secretary-General Alhaji Shinkafi
Founded {2003 )
Headquarters 41b Libreville Crescent, Opp. Tulip Press, Aminu Kano Crescent, Wuse 11, Abuja
Ideology Progressive
Colours Green, white

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Democratic_Party_(Nigeria)

People's Democratic Party

Chairman Bamanga Tukur
Secretary-General Alhaji Abubakar Kawu Baraje
Founded 1998
Headquarters Wadata Plaza, Michael Okpara Way, Wuse Zone 5, Abuja
Ideology Economic liberalism,
Social conservatism
Colours Green, white, red

jmaine: Gbawe, enough of your nonsense please . . .i can comfortably ignore Seanet usual and unreasonable foolishness but not you . . . .

Let's start by you showing everyone my post on this thread holding brief for whatever reasons

I personally don't give a shyte about Sahara reporters . . . .

Did I mention your name? Why are many of you so hypersensitive? If you did not contribute to the defence of the lies of the GEJ spin machine, what is your problem? Believe it or not, I knew it would be the same gang of hardcore suspects who automatically defend everything the GEJ government does. If that does not include you here, then no need to be alarmed.

@OP.

Well done. Good effort and good to note we still have Nairalanders here who proffer solutions. I am sure the APC manifesto, when released, will be a brilliant document that will be comprehensive in scope and thorough in offering solutions to our major problems. It cannot be anything else considering that the ideas long touted by some of its prominent members have been brilliant provisions not many paid attention to. The PDP is conservative and it will not exactly be difficult to highlight what the Party is doing wrong and how to reverse this situation for the betterment of Nigeria.

Oga Musiwa, I am glad to be of service but I don't really know what I have done.

My view is that homophobes are fighting a losing battle. Whether the racists and supremacists like it or not, black folks cannot go back to being slaves. In the same way, we will not succeed trying to prevent human beings of the same gender having sexual relationship with each other and living together. Why expend so much energy trying to prevent the inevitable?

I won't lie. Personally I would not want my son to be gay or my daughter lesbian. Nonetheless, "gays" and "lesbians" are not imaginary tags. They apply to real people with real lives and real needs that we will all have to deal with. I don't think the solution is saying an absolute "NO" and hoping that would deter what is here to stay.

segxyrema: Don't be myopic in making any statement here,mentioning of tinubu's achievement in west is nothing to compare with OBJ's own in the country.S/W is just a small fragment in nigeria.
So compare him with peter obi,oshomiole,amechi etc

Just listen to yourself. Why do you people come with such a gene of unfairness you display with such pride when even other Africans will laugh at your rudimentary reasoning? Tinubu was never President and never had ultimate power to shape the destiny of an entire nation. Why, if you guys are equitable in outlook, persist in summarily judging that a 21 year old you know is "stronger" than a 9 year old when you know damn well that what you are doing amounts to a very unfair comparison most balanced folks would never make? Why not compare two 9 years old against each other and two 21 year old like for like? If at all you will compare two individuals of different ages, why not look at what they were doing when the same age?

Even the way you speak is unfairly arrogant and flippantly dismissive. Is OBJ, for you, now on an unmatched level because he was President while Tinubu was not? Some of you are ridiculous with the things you say here. We all know merit is not promoted accordingly in Nigeria. The same way you talk flippantly is how insincere9gerian would seek to tell us we must not compare GEJ with Fashola merely because GEJ has been President yet me and you know that if our nation is about merit and ability then GEJ would only be considered if all the Fasholas, Dukes, Ribadus, Oshiomholes, Akpabios et al in Nigeria have dropped and died.

Our aberrant nation now even affects how we think and talk. I have no problem with anyone nominating OBJ but try and validate your choice from an intellectually defensible perspective. It demeans us all when our argument is limited to "Tinubu has never been to prison", "he never cleared national debt" or "he never rubbed shoulder with world leaders" type of postulations. I am sorry but I really don't discern much critically effective reasoning on this forum.

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ba7man: With the way some people are busy advocating for "the poor", you would think they really care about them but inside their dark hearts, they just want to justify their hatred for the progress the project stands for. If they really cared about the poor, they would know how this project will favor them.

Correct. Let me add that these dark elements, mainly domiciled abroad and exemplary of the frustrated diasporan who add no value to Africa, would be better served coming to lead by example if they are indeed sincere, brave and morally upright.

Why not come and put your money where your mouth is? Why not leave the comfort of the diaspora, created by everything you hate, and come back to fight and dominate those you claim are ruining Africa?

What are you doing abroad in the first place if a valiant and brave African? Did Nkrumah, Awolowo, Azikiwe, Lumumba and many others not come back, from their foreign sojourn, to get involved instead of remaining abroad ranting frustratedly? This is the proof that many of those spewing vitriol from the diaspora are just failed elements and paranoid losers.

Ask these loud-mouth charlatans what their real and physical investment is in Africa and you will get the answer "nada". Zero. Nothing. Zilch. All these losers contribute are words of hatred and cowardice goading others to act while they remain in Western Nations enjoying the comforts created by people they cannot stand.

debosky: Slow your roll bro - while Clinton might have done some 'good', the valid point being made here is that Clinton's financial relationship with the Chagoury family is partly why he is a prominent face on this project. It's basically a scratch my back I scratch yours arrangement.

We can only hope Clinton, to avoid damaging his reputation, will only put his stamp of 'approval' as it were on a quality project.

Sir, I was responding positively to the directions of Ekt-bear in favour of Clinton - especially regarding the nauseating things some cretins had said earlier about the man. I am certainly not naive to think we are not all guided, at some level, by personal interests. That does not, in any way, change the basic consideration of how the core nature of man leads him to side with good or evil.

Yoola2007: You seems to be partial in this your submission .....what about 1) Banking Reforms 2) Payment of outstanding World bank Loan 3) Use of square peg in a square hole for the first time in Nigeria History at the federal executive council level ....it will highly be unfair to compare both leaders even in south west OBASANJO is still more respected and appreciated than TINUBU that has been trying hard to undermine Awolowo dynasty in Yorubaland.

With all due respect, are you talking about the "Yorubaland" geographically located in the South-Western part of Nigeria or the one on Planet Mars? Because only the latter can accommodate the incredibly unbelievable and ludicrously false statement you make below. In your view, a people "appreciate" a leader by booting his daughter out of office and rejecting his 'anointed' everywhere? Na wa sha for the sentimentality of Nigerians.

OBASANJO is still more respected and appreciated than TINUBU that has been trying hard to undermine Awolowo dynasty in Yorubaland.

[quote author=ekt_bear]Bill Clinton! God bless that man.[/quote]Amen. A force for good who has remained consistent in his pursuit of a better Earth. Don't expect some racists losers here to agree though.

naptu2: That's why I love what's happening in Lagos. The BRT system, the ban on okada, the Lekki-Ikoyi suspension bridge, the Awolowo Road water pipe system. I argued with many people who said that they were "impossible", "would not work in Nigeria", etc. Today we are all alive to see that these things are a reality.

https://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/644155_10151315064537790_651908097_n.jpg

Indeed.

ba7man: When the project was announced, they said it wasn't possible. Now its being realized they pray for its downfall. Classic case of the black man's "Pull him down" syndrome.

My guy, you need to appreciate that the internet now provides a 'feel good' arena for bitter,twisted, jobless and worthless losers to rant and gain instant gratification for their own failed lives. What aspect of this project is not commendable for those who truly key into and identify with what matters?

Similar is going on across the coastlines of other West-African Cities and any progressive person who understands that life is to be lived, plus has the financial means, will be trying to own these iconic addresses and engineering 'tour de force'.

The open prayers for the downfall of this project and the desire to see other human-being die, for doing something commendable, just show that some people are evil and mentally unhealthy. Sadly, the internet now give those folks a platform to disturb others with their twisted views.

Are they not in the PDP already?

obadiah777: HEY YOU CANT BEAT NATURE AT ITS GAME. IN DUE TIME ALL THE LAND WILL BE RECLAIMED BY THE SEAS. THESE DIMWITS CAN BET ON THAT. SOME ARCHAIC DELUSIONAL STONE AGE PREHISTORIC NEGROS LIVING OUT THEIR DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR ON THE MONEY OF THE MASSES. CRAZY OL FOO-LS. THEY WILL SURELY BE CAST ASUNDER IN DUE TIME

They are "dimwits"? I take it that you who talk about "money of the masses" , when that is a display of either dishonesty or ignorance, should be adjudged a genius ala Einstein?

otokx: Misplaced priority

So, if ,as a hard-working man, you decide to buy a Mercedes today with your own money you will be happy if I come to rain on your happiness talking about "misplaced priority"? Who am I to judge how you spend your own money? It is important to 'live and let live'. Doing so allows the soul to 'breathe'.

Seanet01, take it easy on these names you are mentioning. Don't you know your fellow Nigerians have no shame? Many are ill-exposed, personality-obsessed and politically gauche creatures who defend what is rejected elsewhere passionately. Their conduct is one of the reasons Nigeria is not developing. We can always have our political differences but we must always have minimum standards if a people dedicated to issues and ideas.

In most nations of the world, GEJ's position would be untenable and he would have been forced to step down for deceiving the electorate he has a duty to always be openly accountable to. This is open debasement of the Presidency.

The people you mentioned who foolishly held brief for what is openly wrong, in the process insulting others who have now turned out to be right, just amplify the message that some Nigerians are warped individuals who will follow the devil anywhere and defend all his actions once they have a reason for siding with him. Pointless wasting time with unrepentant reprobates. They will be on the next thread doing the same thing.

justmythought: Oh! thanks for the lucid contribution. I am indeed encouraged knowing critical minds like yours do exist. Now, back to the debate. If I can attempt to reason your point, you are saying as a political office holder, you manage what you've signed up to and yes this is true. But bear in mind we are talking here of Micro vs Macro management. while the state is responsible for managing a segment of a country(Tinubu here), of what use would this be if at the strategic level (FGN..OBJ) the macro economic indices are weak?

As a manager and leader, Obj through the office of NOI rebased the economy, ending fluctuations in our macroeconomic variables which in turn make it viable for a Tinubu to access developmental funds from international institutions like the IMF etc (Before the IGR drives kicked off).

I would also point to national unity and security. Absent the leadership experience of an OBJ, although with reservations in select decisions, I strongly doubt any person would have achieved same,in this regard he did well and I will like to believe he meant well(personal opinion!).

Going to your statement regarding Obj being responsible for a set of legislators(upper and lower), as a matter of fact they are representatives of their constituents, albeit in Nigeria at the moment they represent governors interests and maybe king makers(SAD). What this simply means is, managing a more diverse set of interests from a wide array of geographies. I doubt Tinubu's leadership skills can pull that off, even as we speak, otherwise the much anticipated merger might not have been necessary.

About state projects vs national projects, please ask yourself, how easy is it to pass a national budget compared to a state budget? these answers might explain the expedient nature of state projects in Nigeria.

The footprint laid by Tinubu is what Fashola(Governor extraordinaire) is implementing to our amazement and joy. they share a common goal with a common "heritage". An Obj had a choice to leave for an IBB to recalibrate or a yaradua to follow through.

So please my brother, If you live in Nigeria's gated community, you would know better that its a bigger task to lead a landlords association than a compound.

Holding forth with my views, OBJ Anyday!!!

The critical flaw in your argument is that you dock scores for Tinubu relating to a non-existent scorecard. Tinubu has never been President of Nigeria and there is no way, if equitable in outlook, you will ever say with certainty that he would not have performed as well as or even far better than OBJ. It is therefore patently unfair to grant OBJ a win because of his leadership using tools of office Tinubu never had.

Likewise, OBJ has not been a Governor so it is pointless maligning him negatively in comparison to Tinubu in that regard.

Vitali Klitscho may have been in a position where he knocked out very big opponents but does that make him a better pugilist, in the purist sense, than Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao?

For the sake of argument using empirically effective judging parameters, why not simply compare their leadership using an area they can both be judged directly alongside each other?

Why not look at them as Party leaders with the duty of positioning their Party as efficiently as possible in the same region? Look at their activities over time in perhaps the only role they can be compared like for like and it will be crystal clear OBJ is not close to Tinubu in terms of leadership skills and natural ability.

TouchDown: Brother, perhaps its ignorance or something more sinister. The military with non-indigenes outperformed the pdp in the south-west generally. And for hob-nobbing with them and traditional stomach politicians in the south-west, HID has lost the respect of many. I wonder why we have to be euphemistic about that. Its the simple truth. Most would have loved it to be otherwise but it is what it is.

Thank you. Which person in the world wanted Winnie Mandela to be anything other than a paragon of virtue and nobility? Yet by her own actions of freewill, after the great man was imprisoned, she fell from grace. Respect is earned and retained so HID has no monopoly of enduring respect to the extent she can do or say what she wants and expect others to back her blindly.

She can continue to obsess about "second fiddle" while her PDP sidekicks shout "Yoruba marginalisation". I will take, for the SW, all-round development any time any day above ephemeral, hollow and insincere 'stomach' agitations.

[quote author=jas_o]We've served the husband gainfully, we can’t serve the wife. He has elderly advice but idea of conveying meeting in her house should be abolished. Tinubu is the only one trying, others that rally around HID for recognition and selfishness should desist, Yoruba has a wealth of educated and intellectual people, and that greed is utmost aim of some is known to us.
PDP and negotiation by Ijaw people are out rightly condemn, Jonathan and his cohort are trickily corrupt, hence the need of Yoruba to beware and adopt a strategy that will place us to our right place in the country.
Tinubu is a living hero, to be supported by those with genuine intention to move the SW forward, contrary to this is illegal and capable of ruin down the region. We want Tinubu, is a true Yoruba son. People say he uses Lagos money to deliver other state; leave him alone, is a fallacy by those with dormant brain looking for sphere to be recognized. Enough of their mess, this region must work again.[/quote]Correct. It is another indication of the lack of integrity afflicting the PDP that its SW chapter can shamelessly say "Yoruba is marginalised" when they should be saying "PDP South West is marginalised". I really feel for the SW PDP. Nothing to loot at home and nothing to loot at the centre. This is why the crook Okupe stated "when people gather to share what is not enough and you have no one to fight for you, there is a problem".

Some of these "marginalisation" proponents are not even intelligent enough to appreciate how crude they sound. PDP SW should fight to reassert itself instead of going everywhere with begging bowls. When you failed your Party woefully in the States and region, how will others who did well feel if the PDP SW is rewarded for the sake of tokenism? Abeg, let them clear off with their talk of marginalisation and "second fiddle". I am yet to meet any Nigerian who lives in a State called "federal Government". If these people appreciate what matters, they would have attempted to lead well at state and regional level when they had the chance.

FreeGlobe: This Gbawe is unbelievable. Please kindly tell us where and how Sir Wole Soyinka withrew his reservation for Tinubu.

"Till today, I don't see actions from her
or any other, whether vocal or
physical, that trumps what Tinubu
has done to liberate the SW from
the outright criminalisation OBJ
foisted on the region."


Jesus Christ!!!!!!!! This Gbawe will kill anyone around him for money. How can a human being utter this crap? What has Tinubu done apart from looting and putting you on his payroll?:You want to despise 'Mama' because she refused to align herself with fraud. This is unbelievable. You are a shame Gbawe. Even your fellow paid colleagues have not gone this far. You are a beast! smh

Shout all you want and remain here seeking attention all day contributing garbage you think hides how repellent you are. All of a sudden your ilk respect Awolowo, his name and all associated with him? Have the honesty to stop being such a devious, shameless and two-faced creature. What are you even contributing here but a display of enduring hatred for Tinubu? As if folks don't know why your ilk hate the man. Folks here know what you are. Your opinion only matters to other hateful bigots such as yourself.

berem: Thanks for the nomination. but you know i won't win..you already know the reason. moreover, its the Ezeship contest and not for women.

but why does the old woman despise Tinubu so much?

Like most people associated with greatness, she has fallen into the trap of thinking that preserving Awolowo's legacy as one of the greatest heroes of the Yoruba means she must detest any "pretender" to his crown. Like most, she will side with the devil first than pragmatically understand what Tinubu is. Till today, I don't see actions from her or any other, whether vocal or physical, that trumps what Tinubu has done to liberate the SW from the outright criminalisation OBJ foisted on the region.

Tinubu himself was almost consumed by the malevolence of OBJ and his belief in the power of thuggery. Even those who were eternal critics of Tinubu, like Soyinka, have taken a somewhat more pragmatic view of the man because he has turned out to be the opposite of what they insisted he was. Soyinka, for example, would have been surprised and taken aback with how Tinubu supported merit to produce the current crop of very decent, amiable and approachable leaders throughout the SW. These leaders have been engaging Soyinka, plus others who have positives to add, and everyone is complying for the greater good. "My way or no way" ego of the OBJ /OGD/Alao-Akala/Oyinlola/Agagu/Adedibu/Omisore era is dying fast.

If HID genuinely has the interest of the Yoruba at heart, as her husband did, she will put ego and an overestimated sense of self-importance aside to see what matters and support what amounts to the best template the entire Nigeria will soon wake up to. We get nowhere selfishly advocating ethnic relevance at the centre in lieu of merit. I travel around West Africa a lot and envy how others don't have this problem because I appreciate that this is why they are having an easier and quicker path to progress. Minus ethnic bickering, they eventually face what matter to gain progress. We continue to neutralise ourselves because some will never stop shouting Yoruba this, Igbo that, Hausa here, Ijaw there.

[quote author=Akanbi_edu]and who are you that people will have to explain themselves to you?[/quote] Ndu Chucks is a comical character. His closing statement, concerning Tinubu, is funny. I find it extremely amusing that it is always those not from the SW who insist, most vehemently, the people in the region must hate and reject Tinubu.

Who sat in their house all day receiving visitors, based on the famous name they are associated with by marriage, while the SW was taken over by criminal PDP elements?

Who used his time, money and effort to reverse the PDP criminalisation of the SW? We both know the names involved with the two scenarios mentioned. Yorubas are not fools beholden blindly to individuals, ethnicity and reputation. We look at actions and intentions. To the end we know how to accommodate HID's honorary role and pragmatically place it behind Tinubu's real role that is very much needed for the SW to keep on the path of progress she has embarked on.

HAH: I will advice Mama to please not to get involved in politics and put her family in a mud.

You have aged gracefully please I want you to die with your respect intact.

Leave agbero politic to useless old men like Edwin Clark that don't know their age is gone

Correct. She must refrain from losing the respect folks have for her in the twilight of her years speaking rashly on things she does not understand or has not taken time to inspect properly. With this current utterance, what exactly is she suggesting that can be accommodated within the reality of the direction Nigeria needs to head in?

lakhadimar: being the late sage's wife doesnt make her immune from criticism and rebuke. Yorubas dont nurse the 'NA OUR SON' mentality

Please ignore that fool. He quoted me yet I ignored him because I know the wretched bigot does not come here in any sincerity he is the sort, on another thread, who will deride and taunt the name of Awolowo yet he pretends here. Abeg learn to recognise these sort and pay them no mind lest they are encouraged to remain where they should not be because of the hatred for others they cannot run away from.

take dat: Those who have lost out at home are trying to whip up sentiments in other to win concessions at the center.

Correct. Check all other African nations making progress. Issues are national. Here we continue to squabble over ethnic spoils. Those who should know better prefer incendiary talk that only heats up the polity.

skyfall: This party hasn't been registered and it has already generated so much discussion. I think it shows that Nigerians are really yearning for a change. I'm not surprised by the constant bashing by the PDP goons on here though. If they truly think APC will be such a failure, i'd expect them to have written it off already. This constant bashing can only mean one thing - they're scared. And that's good. If you think that the men in APC are not good enough, simply should go and form your own party. Or are you not Nigerians? I don't think the APC is being imposed on anyone and I'm sure INEC will still register as many parties that meet the requirements. The final say will come from Nigerian voters.

Correct in every sense. Anyone able to put two and two together can discern their fear. They deliberately and senselessly make it about the Ikimis and the Ogbehs to damn APC while pretending to be unaware of literally the thousands of good guys who will be the actual occupants of the transformational offices that will move Nigeria forward and are simply not open to the Ikimis and Ogbehs of the APC. It is Nigerians, sentimental beyond redemption, always keen to speak in ways that shows the world we lack political sophistication. A real shame.

It is a bit like obdurately making ACN about Lai Mohammed when Presidential slot and VP were reserved for Ribadu and Adeola while guber positions are for the Fasholas, Fayemis, Ajimobis of the world. The pessimist or enemy of progress will always find something, however petty and senseless, to use in vilifying the commendable efforts of others.

People can continue to talk about characters who will never go beyond their current glorified and deliberately assigned honorary role of scribe within the APC. Those of us who are realistic and steadfast in what we have always wanted for our nation know that come what may, and when APC wins, Nigeria is gaining independent-minded and proven achievers in positions that matter. No settling for a President who is weak, insincere, lacking in political will and a gradualist tool of "business as usual" or a VP who is a lightweight lackey selected to serve tea obediently rather than a competent individual who can step up and lead well should the President be incapacitated or unavailable.

No anti-people pro-establishment Senate President who acts in ways contrary to requirement. No crook and jeun jeun lawyer, with shabby career, as AGF while brilliant, outstanding, dedicated and celebrated disciples of the law abound. Patently dishonest Nairalanders can continue to show they don't do reality via lying to themselves the APC is about Ikimi and Ogbeh alone but the reality makes that reasoning pathetic and perverse. The Party is simply bursting at the seams with the best Nigerians leaders available. It will be about them, as per political office that matter, and not about Ikimi or Ogbeh.