₦airaland Forum

iSense247:
Agbado's lawyers are Lie Muhammeds. When did Fraudster Yakubu said the results would no longer be uploaded in real-time? Why must he promise something vital to the credibility of an election but later do the opposite of what he promised? Why did iRev worked for other election except presidential election?

Tinubu is a criminal. Yakubu is a thief.

She did not said this. U are definitely telling lies here. They interrogated her and she was not aware of the news. Always understand context b4 jumping on thread

Lp party, agba joker. No b the same party that hired someone to collate for them using results from polling units and later stopped the process when they noticed they were losing. Even if they should ask labor to bring results from each polling units to collate, they can't find all bcuz they don't have, they were not given , not represented. Serious party will have agents in all polling units. Authentic one is from inec, if u dey among and they rigged u out, changed the figures and signed, otilo niyen, inec fit claim say na mistake, and the polling officer corrected it. And that's what they will upload where they planned to rigged.

princekwi:
According to the electoral act, physical result must correspond with that of IREV, if it's not the case, then the exercise is faulty, that's simple truth, there's no winner as it stands, the rogue even went to Nation newspaper to write that there will be no electronic transmission of result in preparation for the electoral mayhem he wanted to unleash, well it has hooked him and he can't safe himself, he is in for a very big ride bro, from PH to Sambisa

What did u use to hook him? Results was transmitted bcuz i saw my polling units on the server.

IamV:
Are there people that might need further explanation about the content of this news INEC wanted to smuggle into evidence today ?
If great number of persons show interest,I will be creating a thread to such effect and drop the link in this thread.

In summary about the content of the news ;
INEC said they wouldn't transmit raw figures like Kenya did in 2015, but they would upload result images to a portal.
"RAW FIGURES" here means just the number of votes.
For instance,in a polling unit,LP got total of 23 votes,APC got total of 34 votes ,PDP got total of 75 votes etc.
INEC claimed the results won't be transmitted by those "raw figures ",like, transmitting only the number of votes each party got,but rather everything would be captured as an image and uploaded in real time.

I'm honestly still surprised how none of
the respondents legal teams couldn't figure that out.

Is still the same , forget emotions. Meaning picture of results from polling unit for people to view, not to make use of it to collate results or wait for it B4 collation. Real deal is the one polling officer take to the collation center and do addition and subtraction. And lemme know tell u, if u change a figure and sign beside the figure, u don talk say u change am niyen o. What if LP no get agents when doing that nko , or may b they didn't present party agents in most poling units of SW and majority of North. Pls from who did they wanna get the results from, from PDP or ApC that rigged them out? Lp just dey play sha

Kukutenla:
I like the fact you apc rats have come to agree that Obi won Benue which I said in March. Your claim then was that APC deceived Benue people that Father Alia's election was held in Feb 25 which I replied that it's a mighty ridiculous lie.
So, Tinubu actually won 10 states instead of 12 as was being bandied. If PDP are as meticulous as labour, they can actually prove he did not win some states in the North especially Jigawa.
But besides that, statistically, it's impossible for someone to win 10 out of 36 states and still be declared winner if some abracadabra is not involved. I'm beginning to believe the results were actually rigged based on this court session.

Olodo niyin sir! What if the margin in number of those 14 states won by party A is smaller compared to margin party B used to win in 12 states?.

princekwi:
Then it's left for INEC to prove that what's in the IREV is not a reflection of the physical result,if they can't prove it, then the judges has no option but to rule with the evidence provided by LP that the result is blurred and hence faulty

Bcuz the irev one is blurred, so the original one from polling units used to collate is also blurred? Dey deceived una self. Faulty ko, fortress ni

engineerboat:
What you failed to relaized is that He is working on Form EC8A

1. Form EC8A from PU agents available


And

2. Comparison to what is on IREV

Which he did, you can pushed on him what is not part of the task he is expected to carry out

Dey play, form EC8A for a party without agent in numerous polling units in SW,NE, NW on election. If they are rigged out in those locations. So pe otilo. Irev is rubbish, and u should forget on transmission or no transmission, too, forget Abt double nominations or not, also forget Abt drug case or no drug. All have been attended to in various court. The rulling will based their fact on existing court order and rullings..obi should focus on river and some states where they are clearly rigged out and where their agents have the copy of the real polling units result. Then lest see if the total will help them win and satisfy the needed requirements

pandax:
Olodo, if INEC bring manufactured unblurred copies, LP will bring police copies and party agent copies across the contending PUs

Which police and party copies. When LP no get party agents in most polling units. Dey play. Na wetin INEC give them Dem go collect. Dem not get representative to shout when cheating them on election day

Ofunaofu:
Tinubu should also be questioned as well for his Democracy Day broadcast where he said and I quote
“It has become imperative to state here that the unnecessary illegal orders used to truncate or abridge democracy will no longer be tolerated.”

This is an attempt to ambush the judiciary and cast them in a bad light and also pervert the course of Justice

So what is the meaning of illegal order and what is legal order? As been referred to by the president.

How can obi proof rigging in those numerous polling units without party agents. Obi failed to present party agents in more than 60% of total polling units in Nigeria on election. Now they don't have copy of original results given to party in those units. So if inec decided to change figures at ward and local govt collation, how can obi proof that? Also woteva figures given to them will b what u will see at inec server, and in so many units , u will passport of a person instead of results. Wahala. They can only proof rigging in river and SS OR SE, Lagos, not in ogun, ondo, ekiti, bornu, kano,kaduna etc where they don't have party agents in the majority of those units in those states

Menclothing:
So Lp agent didn’t snap original result from each polling unit and they are relying on inec documents lolz waste of time

I give up

Have forgotten that lp did not have party agents in most of the polling units in SW and North East and North West. Pls how can they proof rigging in those units , they will have to accept the figures allocated to them in those units. So painful, they are just wasting their time

IfnobeGod20:
Are you people aware of what the electoral Act says or you're just being mischievous for no reason.
Meanwhile, the two cases are not the same thing. Oyetola was claiming over voting in some polling units in Osun and he only relied on the BVAS but the supreme court said, to prove over voting the voters'register, BVAS and IREVs must be used. The judgement is on net and not the lie they peddle on your WhatsApp group.
Again, petition of Obi is on manipulation of votes, votes suppression and non-compliance to enabling laws and regulations and guidelines. Hear what the 2022 electoral Act says on non-compliance.

Section 65 Nigeria Electoral Act 2022
Decision of returning officer on ballot paper


(1) The decision of the returning officer shall be final on any question arising from or relating to –
(a) unmarked ballot paper;
(b) rejected ballot paper; and
(c) declaration of scores of candidates and the return of a candidate:

Provided that the Commission shall have the power within seven days to review the declaration and return where the Commission determines that the said declaration and return was not made voluntarily or was made contrary to the provisions of the law, regulations and guidelines, and manual for the election.

'footnote'
The last paragraph is even the cruise of everything. The commission even reserve the right to void an announced results within seven days wherein its detected that the declaration was done against the provisions of the law and guidelines and manual for the election.
'footnote'
Breached of:
1. Provisions of the law (both constitution and Electoral Act)
2. INEC guidelines
3. INEC manual so provided
The breached of any of these three can render the election null and void according to Electoral Act quoted above.

What stopped them from relying on form EC8A from polling units and BVAS too , whats the significance of irev that inec itself will not allow it to be used .

IfnobeGod20:
Please how did you know I don't have it? Are you in control of my phone to have known that I don't have it?
Let me school you what the electoral Act said about collation of results as I quote the law verbatim.

Section 64 Nigeria Electoral Act 2022

(4) A collation officer or returning officer at an election shall collate and announce the result of an election, subject to his or her verification and confirmation that the –
(a) number of accredited voters stated on the collated result are correct and consistent with the number of accredited voters recorded and transmitted directly from polling units under section 47 (2) of this Act;

'footnote'
Note the word recorded and transmitted. The word is not submitted but transmitted. These are two different words, meaning different thing.

(b) the votes stated on the collated result are correct and consistent with the votes or results recorded and transmitted directly from polling units under section 60 (4) of this Act.

'footnote'
Transmitted directly from the polling units.

(5) Subject to subsection (1), a collation officer or returning officer shall use the number of accredited voters recorded and transmitted directly from polling units under section 47 (2) of this Act and the votes or results recorded and transmitted directly from polling units under section 60 (4) of this Act to collate and announce the result of an election if a collated result at his or a lower level of collation is not correct.

'footnote'
It is even mandatory for a collation officer or returning officer to compare the recorded results with transmitted results for collation from the above section.

(6) Where during collation of results, there is a dispute regarding a collated result or the result of an election from any polling unit, the collation officer or returning officer shall use the following to determine the correctness of the disputed result –
(a) the original of the disputed collated result for each polling unit where the
election is disputed;
(b) the smart card reader or other technology device used for accreditation of voters in each polling unit where the election is disputed for the purpose of
obtaining accreditation data directly from the smart card reader or technology device;
(c) data of accreditation recorded and transmitted directly from each polling unit where the election is disputed as prescribed under section 47 (2) of this Act; and
'footnote'
In this section, it was made explicit that in case there is a dispute in the collation of results, it is expected for the collation officer or returning officer to rely on data of accreditation recorded and transmitted directly from each polling unit so disputed.

(d) the votes and result of the election recorded and transmitted directly from
each polling unit where the election is disputed, as prescribed under section 60 (4) of this Act.

(7) If the disputed result under subsection (6) were otherwise found not to be correct, the collation officer or returning officer shall re-collate and announce a new result
using the information in subsection (6) (a)-(d).


Section 65 Nigeria Electoral Act 2022
Decision of returning officer on ballot paper


(1) The decision of the returning officer shall be final on any question arising from or relating to –
(a) unmarked ballot paper;
(b) rejected ballot paper; and
(c) declaration of scores of candidates and the return of a candidate:

Provided that the Commission shall have the power within seven days to review the declaration and return where the Commission determines that the said declaration and return was not made voluntarily or was made contrary to the provisions of the law, regulations and guidelines, and manual for the election.

'footnote'
The last paragraph is even the cruise of everything. The commission even reserve the right to void an announced results within seven days wherein its detected that the declaration was done against the provisions of the law and guidelines and manual for the election.
'footnote'
Breached of:
1. Provisions of the law (both constitution and Electoral Act)
2. INEC guidelines
3. INEC manual so provided
The breached of any of these three can render the election null and void according to Electoral Act quoted above.

Pls I beg you don't reply me in vacuum, reply me on the point of law as I did above.

Just as I always say, please I need the excerpt from the judges/justices judgement between Adeleke vs Oyetola that says IREVs is a secondary data. Stop confusing people that are innocent.

Did they follow this your procedure was otti was declared winner of his state. So all the results of polling units are kn server b4 declaring him the governor, those elected under lp party as senator and reps, did the collation officer compared with inec server b4 declaring them winner. So how many months will I take to do that b4 we can conclude an election. Also u forgot that edited pic of EC8A form were submitted into the server that day after some values had been changed.

IfnobeGod20:
I can bet you, you're not following the trend at all. Are you aware that many of these results were uploaded weeks after the presidential election after the PO had submitted the copies of the unit results to the LG returning officer? Meaning the RO must have arranged for the results uploading to the IREVs. Owing up, INEC is caught pants down.

Wetin be obi total number of votes that declared him winner. Why una close the collation u guys opened when u guys discovered that apc was leading. The only case for lp is to hang on not following electoral law and they can't win inec on that, on fct 25%, no court will say 25% is compulsory for FCT. For me, I don't think obi had the highest votes from what they calculated themselves. They are just wasting their time in court

IfnobeGod20:
Please my brother let us be reasonable. Who launched the IREVs and who take control of it? If INEC can certified it to be true and you the outsider still claiming otherwise, I just pity your mindset.

Wait till court strike out the irev stuff. A whole Supreme Court failed to use irev submitted by apc against pdp of Adeleke in osun. Let Lp focus on BVAS to proof overvoting and valid votes through EC8a forms. Thats the two primary source of information as regards the election. Inec will never leave first source of info and choose irev which is the second source

Gentino:
They are attaching IREC results as exhibit to show the discrepancy between what is obtainable in the IREV portal and what INEC announced as results.

They don't need irev, what they need is the results from polling units in comparison with what inec announced. Then accredited number of each polling units from BVAS. Form EC8a for each polling unit to local govt and state is what they need . But there are many units they don't have polling units agents across Nigeria, how can they prove illegality in those units if inec just decided to write any results for them

If labour party are serious and sure they won majority votes, they should focus on areas they were robbed instead of this stupid claim on Electoral act and playing of videos.
They can't win inec on that and no judge will rule in favor of lp on that matter as Nigeria situation is concern. They should prove if they won or not. They want inec to cancel election they are claiming they won. Nonsense.

IfnobeGod20:
All this rigmaroling is not what I asked for. Youre trying to play smart. Who is talking about accredited data here? We are talking of polling units results as captured by law, you're playing smart of misleading people like you with accredited data . Please quote the portion of the judgement between Oyetola vs Adeleke that says, INEC guideline cannot be used to void an election, very simple word. I think the judgement is on the net and I want you to shame the devil and quote that portion where the supreme court justices say so.
Let me give you this quick correction. Any guideline that is not point of law by INEC cannot be used to void an election, that is sure but any guideline that is captured by law, it's a law on itself. I know you didn't read the content on the link I posted, I will repost it again but I do believe you will take time and seat down and read it with open mind.
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/opinion/589746-inec-electronic-transmission-of-results-electoral-act-and-matters-arising-by-wahab-shittu.html

"The 2022 Electoral Act EXPRESSLY provides for (to quote the Act verbatim) “the votes and results of the election recorded and TRANSMITTED DIRECTLY from polling units” See section 64 (4)-(. Thus, the Electoral Act 2022 MAKES IT MANDATORY that, upon conclusion of voting at the polling units and filling/recording and signing of Form EC8A by relevant persons, the election results (i). Must be electronically transmitted (ii). DIRECTLY from the polling units (iii). On election day (iv) before the Polling Unit Officer and his team would take the hardcopy of Form EC8A to the Collation centre? Dual collation procedure! Do you not agree?

9. Are you not aware that Section 64 (6)(a) refers to a hard copy of the results as collated while Section 64 (6)(d) talks about the electronically transmitted version of the results? Even sections 64 (4)&(5) direct that the manual version (original hard copy of the results) must be compared with the results transmitted DIRECTLY FROM THE POLLING UNITS. Hence the Act clearly envisages a DUAL collation mode but Alhaji Mahmoud Yakubu only did the manual own".

The above excerpt was taken from this link below:

https://lawpavilion.com/blog/fifteen-critical-questions-towards-determining-whether-results-e-transmitted-directly-from-polling-units-are-not-a-mandatory-part-of-the-collation-process-under-the-electoral-act-2022/#:~:text=Thus%2C%20the%20Electoral%20Act%202022,the%20polling%20units%20(iii).

Just I have said, say what you know and stop saying what you don't know because you're confusing the unsuspecting people that cannot read except they are spoon fed.

So if they should go by your analysis, it may take them months to announce winner in a any election. What was in d act is that results will b transmitted electronically, no law said they must wait for the online own to collate or declare results

garfield1:
Their testimony will go nowhere as only a handful of witness will be called and it will affect only those polling units they operated from.in any case,inec will bring adhoc staffs to counter them

Some are just very senseless, no issue with uploading of presidential in my polling unit. I was able to view it that evening, and I compared it with my result

Devil1Messenger:
🤣🤣
U just nailed urself
Kindly go through the conversation again

Seems u lack basic understanding of my point. I did not said no rigging but some of the results followed trends. No rigging in ekiti, osun, ondo. Not expecting apc to win in anambra and not expecting lp to have 97% dea. Bcuz even in your family, everybody will not vote u if u are on ballot. So I agree to b rigging in SE in favor of lp. Not necessarily mean they have govt dea or so. I observe d election in some places and I saw what people did which are against laid down rules just to favor their son. Not necessarily mean they changed figure, instead of changing figures, they can collect your ballot paper from u and vote for d party of dea son. Is that not rigging. SE where pdp and apc party agents are silent and agreed to worked against their own party bcuz of intimidation

Devil1Messenger:
U have deviated o
Osun is PDP and PDP won there because the governor is loved and they simply followed his directive.
Again can u point any state that was under LP before the election in the East or any part of the country that could have possible rigged for Obi as Wike rigged for APC in rivers?
I bet if Abuja is an eastern state, u people would have included it in ur rigging propaganda
Make una dey shame small.
Even in Lagos here, Obi won squarely
In my poliing unit in Lagos here, the distance was over 100 btw Obi and Tinubu. Obi won squarely
Yes there was no LP agent but we all waited and counted the votes and we took a screenshot of it.
Even when APC wanted to start making troubles and wanted to scatter the whole process, we stood against them because we were much.
Obi actually won the election, he was well rigged out in areas where people couldn't stand up and defend their votes

U see! Not issue of deviation, these are factors I am trying to analyze to u. In some places , bcuz of the fact that is my son, they voted for respective candidates, u claimed tinubu is from osun, don't u know that is an insult to osun people, did he claim to come from osun? And most people on the internet were abusing everybody from ekiti when the results was announced and u are all shoutin rigging, how? If there were rigging do u think pdp will get 80k in ekiti bcuz the govt is apc but the fact that apc candidate is Yoruba, and voting pattern is a case to study too. But in SE, dominated by pdp and apc govt, we know how u vote dea. Osun is pdp and pdp won. Bcuz they all voted for party despite rumor that tinubu is from osun. But what happened to SE states with 97% votes for a single Candidates, that did not happen in the northern side .

Devil1Messenger:
Yet the sons and daughters of Osun state couldn't help Tinubu their own son rigged in Osun
Make it make sense again.
The governors of those state with the exception of Imo (where HOPE uzodinma did the rigging he could do for APC) simply refused to interfere else what happened in rivers could have repeated over there
The East was the most peaceful during the election and people just voted their choice compared to what happened in Lagos and other parts of Nigeria

If u accused them of voting their brother, then no wahala but accusing them of rigging for Obi is very laughable bro
We all saw the places that the actual rigging took place and we can pretend from now till eternity, The truth will always be there.

Seems u forgotten that osun is PDP, but what gave obedient the moral and integrity that accuse apc of rigging in ekiti, bcuz I don't really understand, of what significant is to us in ekiti if we vote obi. No party agents , no structure and that's what determines who win an election in ekiti , and some states in sw excluding lagos bcuz of mixing of diff tribes and peculiarities of people staying dea,. Also if u analyse core north, u will understand structure in determining the results of an election

Devil1Messenger:
So APC, APGA Nd PDP helped another party LP to rigged?
Make it make sense man
Stop being a disgrace

Is a different case when son or daughter of a place is on ballot. Desperate individual can rigged for their son and daughter irrespective of your party. I witness one as an observer where u don't even votes, only the party agent help u to vote after collecting your ballot papers , they thumbprint a single party tru out either u are apc ,pdpd or lp agent, some old woman complained but if u see the way they are just throwing out, they collected thier ballot paper from them and sent them away, voting for people against their choices . Is that not rigging an harassment?

Devil1Messenger:
So APC, APGA Nd PDP helped another party LP to rigged?
Make it make sense man
Stop being a disgrace

So pdp and headless lp in ekiti helped apc to rig ekiti election too. Una brain no function well, lp no even get party agents at either pu or wards in ekiti, even up to local govt level. Just some individuals like some students gave lp 1 or 2 votes in wards. But u are all shouting lp was rigged in ekiti. Atiku thats pure fulani sef got 80k votes in ekiti, thats too much and very sad to me . Bcuz I was actually thinking that pdp is dead in ekiti but atiku still get 80k votes bcuz of the party agents, what can obi without party agents, no structure get in ekiti , ondo, oyo ,Ogun, osun and core north with party agents. Make una accept reality, ghost will not come down and vote lp in those state where una no get representatives.

obyno82:
Stop being a theatrical clown. There is no evidence in the testimony that LP rigged in Anambra. They are saying that INEC refused to upload the results, which was the same situation everywhere.

U missed other part, second point is that magic started happening from magician Master obi at ward collation center

BentizilL:
But you expect Obi to win Ondo, Ekiti??

Don't mind them, they are liars

ironheart:
After pegging the price so high to favour your paymasters. Its sad that subsidy had already been paid for until the end of june. Why are we so evil in this country?

Who paid, buhari still owed nnpc 2.2trillion naira on subsidy and u said they already paid. I promise to pay is different from i have paid u. Pls let's research well b4 talking here.

YouandiAllofus:
While it is illegal to increase pump prices across the nation pre-subsidy removal era, diplomacy application is also very important because they also have the capacity to sterve the nation of the product hording it for post subsidy era to sell at a higher profit margin. Which ever way, the gov created this predicament by carelessly announcing the removal way too early hence petroleum marketer are capitalizing on the ineptitude and turning it to gainful adventure. It's just business

Am surprised, u said too early, when ex president only make provisions till ending of June and is not that the ex president has paid the fees for March, April, may and the so called June to nnpc. So u expect the New president to add to the debt running to trillions naira while so called oil marketers are benefitting more than avg Nigerians on the main issue.

fineboynl:
, failures. But tinubu acknowledge that Subsidy was gone. So what was he expecting? They should find way to fix the country and bring down the price of petrol otherwise Nigeria will take to the street when things because worst off.

Let Nigerians take over the street, the govt will keep borrowing for subsidy to pay for us and abandoned salary and other project. I f I were him, I will not wait one hour to revome the subsidy, even the the ex president made provisions for it. Bcuz the ex president have not even paid for several months to cover the subsidy. As a president, I can't wait till another month to pay billions of dollar b4 taking actions. Remove it first and let's go to discussion table. Woteva my govt receive as revenue, I will use it to develop the masses. But I can't let the subsidy fees sink the country while still negotiating

Saifullah01:
What rubish! Government is the problem of itself. Instead of facing the problem head on and finding ways to ease the pains of the masses, they are looking for who to blame.

1. NNPCL was the first to increase price then everyone followed. So if anything Government is to be blamed.

2. If you own a filling station and you bought a 40,000 litres truck @ 195 per litre (I.e. 7,800,000 naira) and now replacement cost of your stock is now 488 per liter (same truck now cost 19,520,000 naira), if you sell at old price just because you bought at old price where do u get the balance of 11,720,000 naira to buy a new truck to continue running your business.

4. Or is government willing to continue paying subsidy in another form to the marketers?

3. Imagine these governors who have no idea how things work running their mouth finding who to blame. If they were not ready for this policy let them reverse it, otherwise let them take the bull by the horn and pilot things.

I pray they succeed for our own good

Oga. U will only sell what u buy o. So is the filling station going to pay back the extra money made after selling bcuz he got extra 11m from the masses to stock ? Na pure stealing. If they want to continue the business, they should look for extra money to stock, at least they will still get dea money back with gain

Eriokanmi:
What further proofs do we need that Apapa was being sponsored by tinubu to destabilise the party? . Now he's attacking Obi, saying he's a liar for challenging the outcome of the 2023 elections. Wonderful .

What a failed old man he is. He's saying he's challenging anyone if he's ever collected money from anyone. So, if someone wants to send me a bribe money worth 2m usd, they'd pay it I to my account right? Nonsense. Your days are numbered Apapa.

I don't blame u, some of u just jumped on threads to make silly comments. Those guys are in the party b4 obi joined them, why is obi guys trying to take over the party from those they met there! They re turning the party to igbo party and Mr integrity has nothing to say about it and wanna win presidential election in the party. Court already affirm Apapa as authentic chairman, why not allow him to act as the chairman. If Peter obi had won the election, that's how only Igbo will be the one to head the party

Firstorderwizard:
Nigerians don't understand the implications of all these.
The world is a global village right now.
No country can survive an isolationist govt. Cos that's the hope of the incoming govt.
To run an isolationist policy cos the mandate to enter into international relations and treaties will be absent in Tinubu's government.

Funnily enough, the myopic tribalists will still suffer it more than the elites

Continue to deceive yourself. Those country need Nigeria too