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A40:
I would agree that the league was weak if all their representatives in Europe weren't still in their respective competitions

Performance in Europe does not reflect your league ability.

A40:
What do you mean they are not discrediting Liverpool? They have and are still doing so

I'm saying whatever strength the top clubs might have no other team would have been able to cope with this form Liverpool is on. I want you to show me any other time in League history a team has lost 1 match in 64 attempts

If the league was not weak when Pep got 100 pts then it is not weak now that English teams are getting to the Finals of major European competitions.

Liverpool will top any league in Europe as we speak

Why do you keep referencing 64matches? Last season is done and dusted their point tally for last season didn't win them the title so it's seems you are using it to clutch at straws in a bid to hype them.

A40:
All 4 EPL teams came out of their groups in the CL, All 3 EPL Europa League teams also got out of their groups.

7 of the remaining 48 teams in Europe are English. So I disagree with una argument in Large Fonts

If the other leagues had their teams thriving in Europe as well then no one of sound mind will ridicule their achievements.

Liverpool's point tally reflects their quality. They would lead any other league in Europe as we speak

Na Liverpool point tally does not reflect their quality rather it reflects how weak the league has been. Liverpool will not be leading the other leagues with 20+ point difference.

A40:
If PSG had teams like Newcastle in their league that can cough out £40m on a striker or Arsenal and Tottenham that can squander £60-70m on a player then I'm sure the league would not be regarded as a farmer's league

Focusing on the gap is erroneous. What you should be focusing on is that they are 25-1-0. We are seeing form that has never been replicated in league history.

A team that has been to back to back CL Finals and has lost 1 game in 64 attempts is surely doing something right.

Like Diddy said. Don't worry if I write rhymes, I write checks.

So don't worry about their brand of football. They are getting results and dominating with it

They are getting results because of how weak the rest teams are not because of how good they are. Liverpool point tally does not reflect their actually quality as a team. A good team taking advantage of a weak league to stamp their dominance. Their European record shows exactly that. How many games have they lost in Europe? Like melvyn11 said if it was to be any other league their achievement will be downplayed and ridiculed by the epl fans.

Greatihex:
the bold is very true.


The competition have been weak for some time now. Chelsea, man u and Arsenal no know where them dey.

That's why when I see comparism with this Liverpool team and past teams I just shake my head. Only someone who don't watch them on a regular basis will be in awe of them but kudos to them they are very effective.

Melvyn11:
Well said. If it was in any other league the epl fanboys would have ridiculed the league and downgrade the club achievement.

Spot on.

A40:
Was it weak as well when they lost only one game last year? All I'm seeing is a team that is converting it's draws to wins and now have that Champions mentality.

Same thing. If Psg did exactly what Liverpool are doing at the moment they will be ridiculed and the league be called a farmers league. Everyone knows the league is at the weakest it has ever been in while this season. Watch Liverpool play and you will see nothing special/spectacular in their brand of football that warrants them having 20+ point gap.

A40:
Lol how are they benefitting? They lead the league by almost 30 points.

Even if the league was supposedly stronger how does that diminish their advantage? At worst the race will be tighter. Don't water down the efforts of a team that has lost just once in their past 64 games in the league

The league is basically at the weakest it has been in ages. If PSG did the same thing In France nobody will care because of the league same with what Liverpool is doing at the moment. They are just a good side taking advantage of the weakness of the league.

Cc A40. This is why I told you Liverpool are benefitting from the weakest epl league season in a long time. Chelsea have lost 7 matches since the back end of November yet they have never dropped from the top 4 during that time Frame. Chelsea have no business being in the top 4.

Swissh:
We need more tissue papers. No tears is as sweet as those of the Shekpites. More donation needed.

I donate 5 cartons of Jonny walker, 10 bottles of alomo bitters and a bottle of Baileys Irish Cream.

kendrick93:
where did I say such?
Anyway Iniesta shouldn't be judged on stats.....he's more than that

Perfectly said. The thing about Iniesta is the fact that we never have to use statistics to demonstrate how good he was through out his playing career.

With Iniesta same with zidane to an extent nobody is bothered by the fact that he or zidane got relatively few goals/assists/whatever as his quality was always obvious. We instead tend to speak about them in terms of moments and performances except when someone wants to push an agenda because of a vendetta.

Ibime:
The greatest lie ever told about attacking players is that that attacking stats apply to some but not to others. Especially when your stats are as abysmal as Iniestas.

Iniesta had no goal or assist in Euro2012.
He was the first poster boy of what we now call polling booth.

What a Fuc*King lie.

Melvyn11:
You see the kind of effect Ronaldo has had on Real Madrid over the last 8 years that would have been United. More league titles and Champions league trophies. He would have achieved the same if not more individual and collective titles with the way the English press will hype up the rivalry with Messi. United would have built a start studded team if Ronaldo didn't leave.

Do United fans even consider Ronaldo a club legend? He gave his prime years to Madrid.

Thank God Pirlo and Alonso didn't have go through all this rubbish busquets is going through.

A40:
Why not? Jerry's silhouette has done it's time

Won't it be unfair to Michael Jordan?

It has passed 2 million signatures already. From Jerry West to kobe

Cc A40.

A40:
Where is Simeone's CL?

How many times did Benitez compete for the league title in England? This man won a grand total of 2 titles at Liverpool in the most fortuitous of circumstances. I repeat Benitez has not won a league title in almost 2 decades

La Liga in the Early 2000s had Madrid as the sole dominant team especially outside La Liga.

Woah of course I know you will downplay and ridicule Benitez and Simeone achievement. That's the only card you can play. Suddenly you are asking for Simeone champions league title lol. This argument is has silly has spillo1 saying maradonna achievement at Napoli Trump's Messi achievement at Barca on our thread.

A40:
Why do I need to convince anyone that is not being interested in being convinced?

We are calling coaches and you're calling a coach that has not won a league title in 16 years. What do you want me to convince again?

You have mentioned Benitez, Simeone, you will still mention Amuneke and Eguavoen at last.

Klopp in 4 seasons has transformed a moribund Liverpool and led them to 3 European Finals, a CL title and their first league title in 30 years. With a lower net spend than his title rivals.[m

What did Simeone do at Athletico Madrid and Benitez at Valencia and Liverpool?

A40:
Benitez has not won a league title in almost 17 years.

As for Pep. Let's see him lead City to a CL semis first and we can take it from there. Even though he's a good coach, I won't join you guys to hype him more than what he is .

You haven't said anything convincing my guy. If you can't convince someone klopp is better or more successful than Benitez then Ancelotti or Simeone how do one take you serious when you say he is better than Pep?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I'd prefer you use MORE SUCCESSFUL instead of BETTER,
since we are using trophies to rate them

Barcelona second choice goalkeeper may have more trophies than Alisson, but that doesn't make him better

Emery has more trophies than Klopp, but I'm sure a lot of people will pick Klopp over him.

I don't know if you understand my point sha [/color]

Yes I get your point. The problem is how do you make a clear distinction between who is a better coach?Is it trophies, achievement,Records, Champions league won etc. Anything that puts klopp above Pep also puts Benitez above Pep which you will agree is laughable.

donstan18:
Mehn! It's fvcking annoying.

Liverpool is currently doing well and I applaud them for that because it's not easy.

Klop is also doing well, no doubt.

But how can a supposed reasonable person compare Klopp to Pep? Is the person mad??

No amount of context that could be applied would put Klopp ahead of even Benitez talkless of Pep and Mourinho.

airmark:
I asked you a question, you replied by asking me a question.
Ancelotti and Mourinho, won ucl titles with two different sets of players. When will this overrated Pep Fraudiola reach Ucl final, without Messi? Not even asking him to win it, just reach final.

You still haven't said anything. Is klopp better than Mourinho, Ancelotti or Benitez? Its a simple question. Your answer will determine how we proceed.

donstan18:
You even went far calling Benitez.

Emery is even more successful than Klopp.


He's good, but e still get level wey em dey operate.

Emery is younger and more successful than him.

That's what I was telling A40.
If you can't make a convincing argument that places klopp above a coach like Benitez then how would you expect people to take you seriously when you now place him above coaches like Pep and Mourinho who are serial winners all through their careers.

airmark:
When will this Pep Fraudiola reach Ucl final without Messi? The same Fraudiola getting knocked out by Bakayoko's Monaco and Pochettino's Spurs, is who you are hyping.

Klopp is exposing Fraudiola as a local coach, without Messi. Raumdeuter and A40 concur, as he destroyed Bayern Munich.

Is klopp better than Benitez, Mourinho and anceloti? Don't start a debate if you not ready to write a convincing point rather than repeating the same cliche.

A40:
What level can be higher than leading a team to their first league title in 30 years amassing 67 points from a possible 69 so far. When in the history of European football has a team won 22 out of its first 23 league games in a top 3 European league?

One has to make a convincing argument first that Klopp is better than Benitez, and after that that he is better than Ancelotti, Mourinho and some other coaches before even trying to compare him against Pep.

Jodera:
[b][/b] I think this is what people are missing when comparing this Liverpool team with Man u squad of 2007/2008 or Chelsea 2004/2005. Klopp is the key here not the squad, and if he's to coach this present squad, then I put my money on Liverpool to hypothetically win too( tho with a slim margin)

2004/2005 Chelsea is prime Mourinho. There is no premier league team I am betting against that team . 15goals conceded in 38matches with a back line of Bridge-Terry-Gallas-Ferreira.

spillo1:
LMFAO.......Calm down bro. 2 good finishes and a tap in a glorified Dutch League should not get you wetting your pants.

The league is wild. Even the useless and shitt teams bomb forward like mad men.

Elnino4ladies:
Oops!!! 35 career league goals Ivanovic, John Terry has more

ok.

Elnino4ladies:
Wait Iniesta has 26 career league goals?
Azzin 2 and 6??
Lampard scored 27 in 2009/10 season.

How did he escape banter all these years?

Twitter copy and paste merchant weh done. Iniesta does not have 26 career league goals.

LegoxMetahuman:
who is watching McGregor vs cowboy early tomorrow?

Its a boring match up In the sense we already know the winner. This fight has been picked very carefully by Conor and his men. He needs a win against credible opposition and Cerrone fits the bill perfectly! A man with records and good standing, but also a fighter who loses big fights. Cowboy is a choker so easy W for McGregor.

herzernIsHere:
Abeg. . .Make fear of God dey guide us before we carry phone type on NL ooh.

This is just soo wrong. This Liverpool team will comfortably and confidently win any league in Europe.

Have you seen Liverpool away record in the champions league?

A40:
What's the earliest time a team has been crowned Champions in EPL history? because Liverpool is about to break it

Maybe it's just me but there is nothing really special about this Liverpool side. They are just capitalising on a weak Premier league at the moment.