₦airaland Forum

And they said we should not wail


...well, We're watching!

Seeing With Your Spiritual Eyes - Thursday, November 12th .

Pastor Chris

For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day (2 Corinthians 4:16).

The words of the Spirit by the Apostle Paul in 2 Corinthians 4:17-18 lets us know that we’re not to faint or give up when we face adversities. It says, “For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.”

Whatever you might be going through today, if you’d maintain your confidence in the Word, that particular experience will produce for you a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory. How will this happen? It’s by you refusing to look at “the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen.” That means you shouldn’t consider the things that are obvious to the optical eyes or the senses. This doesn’t mean you don’t “see” or feel that they’re present, but you’re unruffled and unperturbed by them; your gaze is fixed on the Word.

This was what Abraham did—he refused to consider the obvious adverse circumstances or what he could see and feel in the natural realm. Rather, he was strong in faith giving glory to God (Romans 4:20). This is how God expects you to live: looking at the unseen; that’s when the miracle happens. Now, how can you look at things that aren’t seen? If they can’t be seen, how then can you look at them?

That lets you know He’s talking about seeing with your spirit. The things that aren’t seen are those things God has said concerning you in His Word; they may not be obvious to the optical eyes, but they’re real nonetheless. Likewise, whatever you’ve asked the Lord for, and received with your spirit, is real, even though you may not be able to relate with it through your natural senses. So, you take possession with your spirit and refuse to consider the circumstances that may try to convince you otherwise. That’s how it works.

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for your Word, and its ability to put me over in life, and cause me to fulfil my destiny in you! By my confessions of faith, I cause situations to be in harmony with your perfect will for me, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Hebrews 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Mark 11:23-24
For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. 24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

Daily Scripture Reading
1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Hebrews 10:19-39, Ezekiel 3-4

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: John 11:35-46, 1 Chronicles 12

Do It His Way! - Wednesday, November 11th .

Pastor Chris

And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice…And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them (Numbers 20:11-12).

It pays to always do things God’s way. The scripture above tells us of Moses’ action when the children of Israel were thirsty for water in the wilderness. They cried to Moses, and when Moses spoke to the Lord about it, He told Moses, “Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and SPEAK YE UNTO THE ROCK before their eyes…” (Numbers 20:8 ).

The instruction was for Moses to speak to the rock to give them water; he wasn’t to strike it. Interestingly, much earlier in their journey, when they were thirsty and cried to God for water, God said to the same Moses, “…smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel” (Exodus 17:6). However, this time, He said, “Talk to the rock.” This was a different instruction.

Sadly, Moses did it his own way, striking the rock, instead of talking to it as expressly instructed, because he was offended at the people. God was trying to teach Moses that there was a higher way; a better way. Moses was used to performing miracles with the rod; he could do anything with his rod, but God wanted to change things. He was trying to tell Moses, “You really don’t need this rod; you can rule by words; just talk to the rock and it’ll get you water.” Moses was too angry to think with God.

Refuse to be ruled by anger or negative emotions. Some people are so self-conscious and earthly-ruled that all they think about is how to do things their own way. They’re so carried away in the flesh that God’s voice is faint to them. All they hear is the voice of the flesh, but to be carnally minded is death (Romans 8:6). Don’t be that way. Go the Word-way all the time; follow the Spirit.

Even when His instructions don’t seem “convenient,” do His will, because with Him, you can’t miss your way in life. Don’t do what’s convenient for you; do what He wants, and your life will be full of peace and glory.

Prayer...
I delight to do your will, O Lord! Your Word is in my heart, causing me to walk in righteousness and fulfil my destiny in you! My desire is to please you in all things, as I live by your Word, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Proverbs 16:25
There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

Luke 22:41-42
And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed, 42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Hebrews 10:1-18, Ezekiel 1-2

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: John 11:24-34, 1 Chronicles 11

Eternal Success - Tuesday, November 10th .

Pastor Chris

While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal (2 Corinthians 4:18).

True success is by God’s Spirit. The “success” that comes from the world, through human efforts or abilities is temporal. However, the one that comes through the Word of God is eternal; it never fades away!

For instance, when you stand your ground in faith and proclaim God’s Word for a job, business, project, etc., and you get results, those results that come from your faith in the Word of God have life in them.

This is different from another fellow who gets his’ through human charisma or physical abilities. The latter’s success is temporal, while yours is eternal, because it has an eternal testimony of the Word of God that takes you from one level of glory to another.

When God brought the children of Israel out of Egypt and took them into the Promised Land—the land of their inheritance—He said to them, “If you start thinking to yourselves, ‘I did all this. And all by myself. I’m rich. It’s all mine!’--well, think again.

Remember that GOD, your God, gave you the strength to produce all this wealth so as to confirm the covenant that he promised to your ancestors--as it is today” (Deuteronomy 8:17-18 MSG). In other words, they were to give God the glory, knowing it wasn’t by their abilities, but through the power of His Word that they were delivered. They were to remember it as a testimony.

Your testimony of His grace and success continues in your life as you testify to the power of His Word at work in you, and on your behalf. Your success story won’t cease as long as you keep acting on the Word and testifying accordingly. Don’t depend on your natural wisdom or abilities; trust in the Lord! Act on His Word; build with the Word and you’ll always win, for in Him resides eternal success.

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for the privilege to enjoy a life of unending victory, prosperity, health, success, and righteousness, as I put your infallible Word to work. I testify of your goodness, increased grace, wisdom, excellence, and supernatural abilities at work in me today, and always, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Joshua 1:8
This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

2 Corinthians 3:5
Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

1 Timothy 4:15
Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Hebrews 9:11-28,
Lamentations 3-5

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: John 11:14-23,
1 Chronicles 10

They Can’t Hear Without A Preacher! - Sunday, November 8th .

Pastor Chris

…And how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? (Romans 10:14).

One of the reasons for the preaching and teaching of God’s Word is to impart faith. Until you hear the Word of God, you can’t have faith in Him. You can’t love someone you’ve never heard about.

Imagine that you have a neighbour you’ve never met. Then, one day, while you were out, fire broke out in your apartment. But thankfully, no damage was done before the inferno was put out. You only came home to see the signs that indeed, there’d been a fire. However, as you stood wondering who the brave person was that put out the fire, someone walked up to you and said, “It was such a huge blaze, but that man over there (pointing to this neighbour of yours whom, you had never met) put out the fire. He even got burnt in the process.”

Now, for the first time, you’re going to feel something towards that neighbour. You’re going to go to him to express appreciation, because you heard what he did. If you weren’t told what he did, and you never knew about it, you wouldn’t have gone to him. But because of what he did, which you’re aware of, you now see him in a new light, and think of him in a new way.

In the same way, if we don’t preach and teach about Jesus, what He came to do, His love, His vicarious death on the cross, and the life of unending victory that He’s ushered us into, the one who hasn’t heard of Him can’t love Him. That’s why you should fuel aflame your passion for the Gospel. Tell of His wondrous works and preach His undying love to others. Our opening verse says, “…how shall they hear without a preacher?”

You’re the preacher in your world: in your home, office, school, and in your neighbourhood. The Lord has anointed you to deliver men from bondage into the glorious liberty of the sons of God, turning them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God (Acts 26:18). Become fervent in soul winning. Talk to somebody about Jesus today!

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for the passion you’ve put in my heart to take the Gospel to the ends of the earth. I fulfil my role as a minister of reconciliation, manifesting the savour of your knowledge always, and in everyplace, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Mark 6:5-6
And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. 6 And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.

Mark 16:15
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Hebrews 8,
Jeremiah 52

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: John 10:33-42,
1 Chronicles 8

EXTRACT FROM: Rhapsody of Realities Daily Devotional

One Direction Only - Saturday, November 7th .

Pastor Chris

And the man waxed great, and went forward, and grew until he became very great (Genesis 26:13).

There’re those who believe life should be full of ups and downs, but that shouldn’t be your experience. As a child of God, you’ve been ordained to journey only in one direction—upward and forward. That’s the life to which you’ve been called; it’s a life of progress and advancement. You have the nature to be absolutely successful, because you’re the seed of Abraham. You’re an heir of God, and a joint heir with Christ.

Therefore, develop a mentality that’s consistent with who you are in Christ. Refuse to allow thoughts of defeat download into your system. See in one direction only—“northward.” In the Kingdom of God, there’s no south, east or west; only north. In the earth, you have south, west, east, and north, but in the spirit realm, there’s only one direction—north.

Now, this may not mean much to you if you try to figure it out with your earthly mentality. But if you understand your calling and spiritual nativity, you’ll know why God wants you to journey in one direction only. He said in Proverbs 4:27, “Turn not to the right hand nor to the left….” What’s He saying? He wants you to go in the direction of His Word. Refuse to turn to the right or to the left, because there’re distractions and detractors that’ll try to get your attention; don’t look at them. Set yourself on course, on the victory lane.

There shouldn’t be ups and downs in your life; don’t allow it. Look upwards, and go forward! Your life is the story of unending progress. Proverbs 4:18 says, “But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.” Keep making progress from glory to glory.

Confession...
I don’t see as ordinary men see! I see and think only through the Word of God! Therefore, my life is upward and forward only, from glory to glory! Halleluiah!

Further Study:
Proverbs 4:18
But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.

Exodus 14:15
And the Lord said unto Moses, Wherefore criest thou unto me? speak unto the children of Israel, that they go forward:

Genesis 26:13-14
And the man waxed great, and went forward, and grew until he became very great: 14 For he had possession of flocks, and possession of herds, and great store of servants: and the Philistines envied him.

Daily Scripture Reading
1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Hebrews 7, Jeremiah 50-51

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: John 10:22-32, 1 Chronicles 7

He's a gooner.


A clear case of rat follow lizard enter water... Lizard go dry O, but the rat nko?

If he's not fried, then the APC is a huge joke.... Amaechi the saint... Sylva.... Now Saraki?


I dey look.

Ok na... Let's watch


Saints= APC
Criminals =PDP

Kwarapshun fight = following PDP folks.


Ladies and gentlemen, "change" is here.

Power Through Our Hands - Thursday, November 5th .

Pastor Chris

And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon’s porch (Acts 5:12).

There’s an enormous release of divine power when we stretch or lift our hands in prayer. The Apostle Paul said, “I would that men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting” (1 Timothy 2:8 ). When you lift your hands up to the Lord in prayer, you activate the heavenly powers and make them available on your behalf. So much happens in the realm of the spirit when God’s people stretch or lift their hands in prayer, and some have wondered, “Why is this so?”
You see, your body extremities, such as your fingers, are spiritual points or openings; they’re spiritual vents for either entrance or exit for the Spirit. When we stretch our hands, the anointing is released through our hands. The anointing isn’t the Spirit; it’s the Spirit that gives the anointing, and the Spirit lives in you. He transfers or imparts the anointing through your hands.

The anointing is a special power. It’s the power of God that heals, delivers, removes burdens, and causes people to prosper! The anointing destroys the yoke of bondage, and opens doors! You have something to give; you have something to transfer to others, or to cause a change in your environment and in the regions beyond.

The Bible tells us that by the stretching forth of the hands of the Apostles, many signs and wonders were wrought amongst the people. This means as they stretched forth their hands, hopes were restored; burdens were lifted; sicknesses and diseases were healed; destinies were mended, by the power of the Holy Spirit! The same Spirit is in you today. The blessings of God for others can be released through your hands. Perhaps you’re in a Church service or in your cell group or fellowship meeting, and a call is made to stretch your hands in prayer, towards someone, a group of people or a particular direction; do so with knowledge and the understanding that there’s power released through your hands.

Confession...
I’m full of the Spirit, and the anointing is at work in me! Every time I stretch my hands, the anointing is released and yokes are destroyed, burdens are lifted, hopes are restored, sicknesses and diseases are healed! Thank you Father, for this awesome privilege to release power through my hands and also offer sacrifices of worship, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Exodus 17:11-13
And it came to pass, when Moses held up his hand, that Israel prevailed: and when he let down his hand, Amalek prevailed. 12 But Moses hands were heavy; and they took a stone, and put it under him, and he sat thereon; and Aaron and Hur stayed up his hands, the one on the one side, and the other on the other side; and his hands were steady until the going down of the sun. 13 And Joshua discomfited Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword.

Exodus 14:16
But lift thou up thy rod, and stretch out thine hand over the sea, and divide it: and the children of Israel shall go on dry ground through the midst of the sea.

Exodus 14:21
And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided.

Daily Scripture Reading
1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Hebrews 4:14-5:1-10, Jeremiah 44-47

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: John 10:1-10, 1 Chronicles 5

Suswam?


I'm pro PDP ...


But, yeah... Crucify him. If y'all have been to Benue state, y'all will understand better.

But, when will they go after Amaechi, Fashola, etc?


Meanwhile... Save a life, Hug a chelsea fan today

Suswam... ? I'm pro PDP.. But...


Crucify him

Hmmmmm


Jokes section Please! These are stale

Mama be like

"they promised us Change, have you seen any till now? I heard you said the economy will crash in few months time?

Do you think those boys upstairs knows? "

Fayose be like

"mama, don't worry, I'm here"

The governor

He should be out next Vice President ...or SGF

Owambe president.

Fly round the world
Take pics
Visit the cows
Gist with El rufai
Throw parties
Etc



Like he's competing with "Keeping up with the Kardashians"

Let those who wanna go away go....


That's sure reconciliation to me

I smell Lai Mohammed




See the source abi sauce sef!

Who does?

Who normally prepares for defeat?



We'd be back!


You guys should jejely merge with APGA,LP and accord, and change your name. Make sure you don't admit all those who left.

Keep the opposition real!


Yes, I'm wailing.

It's kwarapshun, and I fromise to inbestigate and frobe Za fifful who are in charge.

I will not pace saybing za ekwanomi, I must keep pacing za fidifi insha Allah.


...ladies and gentlemen, I hope you're feeling the CHANGE y'all voted for?

Cheers

Preserved In Him - Wednesday, November 4th .

Pastor Chris

By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith (Hebrews 11:7).

In Genesis, the Lord directed Noah to build an ark because judgment was coming on the world. While he was building, the people scoffed at him because there was no sign of rain. “Will God actually destroy the world with water?” they asked, jeering at him. Noah wasn’t dissuaded however; he carried on till he completed the ark. The Lord had instructed him saying, “Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth” (Genesis 7:2-3).

Noah did accordingly, and soon as he got into the ark with his family, and all the animals, God shut the door after them. Shortly, it got cloudy, and windy; and the rains began to fall until the whole world was submerged in the ensuing deluge. The people thought it would stop, but it didn’t, until it destroyed all men and animals on earth. However, not so for the ark and those in it: the higher the water rose, the higher it lifted the ark and made it easy for it to glide along. The same water that destroyed others preserved Noah and his family, because they were in the ark.

That ark is symbolic of Christ. To be in Christ is to be in God’s secret place of rest and protection. Psalm 91:1-2 says, “He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.”

Christ is your refuge! If you’re in Him, you have nothing to fear, because you’re in safety. There may be a social or economic flood destroying men’s lives today, but the same “waters” will bear you up and preserve you.

Confession...
I dwell in Christ, in the secret place of the Most High, where I’m protected under the shadow of the Almighty; my Refuge and my Fortress, in whom I confidently trust! I have no fears, because He’s my safe haven!

Further Study:
Psalm 91:1-13
He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. 2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust. 3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence. 4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler. 5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; 6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday. 7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee. 8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. 9 Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation; 10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling. 11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. 12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. 13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

Daily Scripture Reading
1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Hebrews 4:1-13, Jeremiah 41-43

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: John 9:28-41, 1 Chronicles 4

A Life Of The Word - Tuesday, November 3rd .

Pastor Chris

For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace (Romans 8:6).

Some people make their lives difficult by living according to their natural, fleshly instincts. Those fleshly instincts are what we call “fallen instincts.” In other words, they’re based on the fallen nature of man. Fleshly instincts can’t help you. They may take you a long way, but they’ll never take you all the way.

It’s easy for some people to pray through their natural instincts when they need help. They cry, “Oh God, please help me! I need some help.” You need to recognize that we’re in a spiritual kingdom that operates with definite principles. To be ignorant of these principles will lead to frustration and despondency. God said, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge...” (Hosea 4:6).

Understand this: when you were born again, you were translated from the domain of darkness—the kingdom of this world—into the Kingdom of God’s dear Son. You live in that supernatural kingdom, and you’ve got to operate from there. Though you’re in the world, you’re not of this world. Philippians 3:20 (MSG) tells us that “…there’s far more to life for us. We’re citizens of high heaven...” therefore, be conscious of your origin and identity, and operate by supernatural principles.

Jesus said the one who’s born again is a mystery to the world (John 3:. The principles by which we operate aren’t available to this world. We see and think differently. We don’t talk according to our experiences, what we see or feel. We pray, talk and act according to what the Word says. Glory to God!

Confession...
I’m not moved by what I feel, see or perceive through the senses! I live in, and by the Word! I’m triumphant by the Word, making progress with giant strides. Halleluiah!

Further Study:
1 Corinthians 2:14 CEV
That’s why only someone who has God’s Spirit can understand spiritual blessings. Anyone who doesn’t have God’s Spirit thinks these blessings are foolish.

Romans 8:6-8
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Daily Scripture Reading
1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Hebrews 3, Jeremiah 38-40

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: John 9:18-27, 1 Chronicles 3

Lol...


I was there in 2012. This is the overflow section, it was not designated as living quarters. The OP should have snapped the hostels and stop misleading people.

vooks:
Gombs,



What difference?
Verses please!

I've already explained this... Quit holding on to straws.


So, if one can't yet interpret his tongues, they shouldn't even bother speaking it?

You lot were asking where asking if Paul wrote about speaking in tongues in private prayers... A yes of course.

He however spoke about speaking in tongues to the public, as there is no need for it, if one can't interpret it.

I wonder why you keep getting jittery at what I write, only to misunderstand them, to suit your stance. Remember, we're sharing beliefs, I'm not in the view of forcing you to believe, so should you.

vooks:
You found this thread civil. Try and leave it that way.


I would say a single manifestation of a gift don't mean you are in that 'office'. Hagin long observed this. If you want to be understood, be coherent and more importantly back up your post with scriptures.


A tongue of men or angel remains a tongue and there is no such artificial distinction imagined here;
It’s important to understand that there is a difference between the gift of tongues that accompanies the baptism in the Holy Spirit, which every believer can receive, and the gift of tongues that is a ministry gift.

Remain civil. 'Son' is demeaning but am least offended. Take your time, if you want a week to go get backup, get Joagbaje,Google, Hagin and all. Winsomex does not mind waiting
Here, am only interested in the Word of Life and so far, you are very far from it

I don't need back up... I've always left a discussion with you when you go haywire and start throwing tantrums.

So now, "son" is demeaning? Noted Bro!

Continued...

Notice that in writing to the Church at Corinth, Paul very definitely encouraged the Corinthian Christians to follow the practice of speaking with tongues in their own private prayer lives. And he gave a number of reasons for it.

1. Devotional Use—Speaking Divine Secrets

There is the devotional use of tongues. Sounds strange, but it's true, and totally biblical.

1 Corinthians 14:2 says, “For he who speaks in a ‘tongue’ addresses God, not man; no one understands him; he is talking of divine secrets in the Spirit” (Moffatt). Here, Paul is talking about the individual Spirit-filled believer employing the use of tongues in his prayer life. notice, it was talking about an individual praying in tongues.

Through speaking in tongues, you can pray out the plan of God for your life by the power of the Holy Spirit. Why? How? Because he speaks to God, By then help of the Holy Spirit, who helps us pray as we ought to, making intercessions with groans that cannot be uttered. When I speak in tongues...My Spirit prays.

2. Spiritual Edification

Tongues are also used as a means of spiritual edi­fication. The Bible says, “He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifteth himself . . .” (1 Cor. 14:4). The word “edifieth” means to build up.
You could see same in the book of Jude 20....it talks about building oneself... Praying in the Holy Ghost.

Reading on in the same chapter, The Amplified Bible reads, “My spirit [by the Holy Spirit within me] prays, but my mind is unpro­ductive . . .” (1 Cor. 14:14).

So praying in tongues is not for mental edification, but for spiritual edification. Simple and clear.

3.Worshipping God

The Bible says in Acts 10:46 concerning Cor­nelius and his household when they began to speak with tongues, “For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. . . .” . Speaking with tongues is a supernatural way to magnify God. Oh! I know that experience!

4. Doorway to the Supernatural

Speaking with tongues is the doorway into all the other spiritual gifts. I've not seen any who manifests the gifts of the Spirit, and doesn't speak in other tongues.... I'm yet to see any.

Some people want to experience all the gifts of the Spirit at once, but you have to go through the door to get into the supernatural. This is why we have many failed churches. Churches who want to manifest the gifts they've read about,yet they still say tongues are done away with.

If you do not speak in other tongues, there are depths in God and Christianity you'd never experience.


Also, it is as the Spirit of God wills, not as we will (1 Cor. 12:11). In other words, you can’t force or “put on” a manifestation of the gifts of the Spirit.

The Bible teaches us to desire spiritual gifts (1 Cor. 14:1), a point I tried getting vooks to understand...he rather said;

Paul exhorts us to pursue higher gift of prophecy one he had just indicated to be a gift

A ploy to water down the gifts of tongues. However, the Bible also teaches us to earnestly covet the best gifts (1 Cor. 12:31).

Let's remember that those words were written to people who already spoke in tongues. They weren’t written to people who did not speak with tongues.


Conclusion:

God has given each of us a supernatural means of edifying ourselves, or building ourselves up, spiritually. God has given to us a supernatural means of communicating with and worshipping Him. As a Spirit-filled believer take full advantage of the gift of tongues.

Cc: WinsomeX

6. Lastly, you claim Paul taught that tongues might be used in private prayers. Can you refer me to that scripture, please?

Scripture,? It's dotted all over 1Corinthians 14... Try verse 4. Paul encouraged the practice of speaking in tongues in their own private prayer life.

Too proud to admit goofing.

Whatever sails yout boat, son, is fine with me!

So a spiritual gift exercised by anyone called to 'those offices' become a 'ministry gift' different from the average Joe, the 'uncalled'?

If I prophesy now, does it mean I'm called into the office of a prophet? Don't try to twist my point... I can see you're doing a shoddy job at it.

Meanwhile, you didn't answer my question...

So, the tongues of men is same as that of angels?

Since you said the gifts of tongues are One and the same.

Question is HOW are those utterances by the Spirit 'those called utter' different from the utterance by the Spirit manifesting vide an uncalled dude like you?

Wait for my continuation son!

[quote author=vooks post=39609262]

There are no scripture on Knowledge or Wisdom. But there is plenty of presumption and speculation

There are... Study the Greek words of the two, in regards the context it's taken from.

Because there is nothing such as office of tongues and tongues, there is just tongues.

Office of tongues? Did I say there was?

By unlearned I mean a language you have never learned before so you can't communicate in it of your own. For instance, if you have never learnt Mandarin and suddenly you prayed in Mandarin. Unlearned is not in a derogatory sense as in illiterate and ignorant.

But mandarin is tongues of men... It contradicts the very thing you're trying to cook up.

I mean the gift of tongues is ONE and the same, you don't have office of tongues, ministry of tongues and then the gift of tongues; all you have are tongues

Ok... So, the tongues of men is same as that of angels?

Is this verse EXHAUSTIVE of ministries/ callings?

Yup

It is IMPORTANT to understand that you just imagine this. But it is not exactly imagining but regurgitating Hagin WITHOUT a shred of evidence from the scriptures

I was not done... Stop being edgy.

Why is this 'gift of tongues as ministry gift conspicuously missing from the Ephesians list?

Slow it down Old sport! By Gift of tongues as a ministry Gift, as I saw it, is the utterances those called to those offices utter, by the Spirit. I wasn't trying to say there's an office of tongues. Jeeez

You just cooked another vocabulary. All gifts are from Holy Spirit. Simple biblical truth free of men craftiness. Paul exhorts us to pursue higher gift of prophecy one he had just indicated to be a gift. Seems like you need to teach him a thing or two about impartation vs calling.

Some are by impartation...others are by calling... Ask for proof.

Is tongues a MINISTRY/OFFICE?

It's a gift.

Paul is clear that NOT ALL speak in tongues at Corinth

That's why he took time to teach them.

Wait for my continuation. Cheers

vooks:
You make some points which should be examined in their own like,
1. all believers ought to speak in tongues
2. There is a difference between 'gift of tongues accompanying baptism of Holy Spirit and the gift of tongues as a ministry gift.

One thing about spiritual gifts is hat they are not fully defined , and this leaves room for all sorts of creativity and guesswork. For instance, what is Knowledge? What is Wisdom?

Well, they can be understood fully, if they're looked into with scriptures.

Hagin made an excellent observation that while possessing a spiritual gift necessarily entails manifesting it, manifesting one does not mean you possess it.

Very correct.

He went on and gave examples of prophecy. Holy Spirit may impress onto your spirit a prophetic word for a particular moment but you don't become a prophet. Or healing. Praying for a sick person and God healing them does not mean you have the gift. And so forth

You're getting it right. Hagin was so on point there. Did you read the book?

Where he erred greatly is arbitrary inventing 'offices' of a particular gift. It is good for the mind but has zero scriptural basis. This is a shining example of the creativity I have just mentioned.

Really!? How exactly?

To the best of my understanding and I stand corrected, tongues are supernatural ability to speak an unlearned language.

By, "Unlearned", you mean? Keep this verse in perspective..

Acts 2:4

4 And they were all filled with the[b] Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.[/b]

And there are no types of tongues

Wrong buddy! There are

1 Corinthians 13

1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels,

or offices or ministry.

Wrong again. There are...

Ephesians 4:10
And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

Those are ministry gifts. Paul said Jesus gave them as gifts to the church.

And the gift is not is not for all believers.

Spiritual gifts are given by impartation (ask for proof), and yeah.. It is for all believers, Paul asked us to desire spiritual gifts. Ministry gifts on the other hand is a calling, not imparted.

All spiritual gifts are beneficial for all but not all walk in all and most certainly not all walk in ANY. And this is not any mistake on their side.

Paul was quite particular that the unintelligible has no place in public worship whether it be prayer,song,exhortation. It is discourteous plain and simple. Many Pentecostals have grown into a culture of impunity where this is routinely flouted, and they find censuring it too much seeing they are equally guilty.

Ummm... I lost you a while ago. Mind rephrasing.

They resort to theological gymnastics and aberrations such as inventing types of tongues.

Quit flipping buddy!

Cessationists observing this flagrant breach of these clear regulations rightly accuse Pentecostals of anarchy.

I'd have to let this humor me.

The half baked dishonest retorts of 'types' of tongues among others don't help at all.

But there are.

So we have the epic clash of Cessationists baseless claims and Pentecostals impunity and thousands of books and arguments in between

Having read this much, I must say I'm intrigued at this thread. I love the way each one presented matters, devoid of personal tantrums. This is some good start.

I'd like to say a thing or two, and I Hope we get some flavor from it. I've always being in the WoF, I've followed Kenyon, Hagin, Idahosa, and now Oyakhilome. I've studied these folks, and what they taught, and I believe them wholly. There are times I rejected what they taught, for example, there are times Hagin contradicted Oyakhilome, at a point, I had to contact joagbaje for counsel. However... This is about tongues, and clearly, they all agree on same, so, I'd write on my thoughts, after some study and experiences.

The issue of tongues in the church is a really interesting one, because all Christians ought to speak in tongues. However, due to certain teachings, and religious battery of scriptures,we are where we are today, and God will surely fix His Church.

In the Church world today, many people say, “Tongues have been done away with, because the Bible says that tongues will cease.” The Bible does say that one day, tongues will cease (1 Corinthians 13:8–12), but that is not referring to this present Church Age. In Heaven, there will be no necessity for tongues, because that which is perfect will have come (1 Cor. 13:10).

There are those who purport to believe in speak­ing in tongues but do not feel that tongues are neces­sary for all believers. It’s important to understand that there is a difference between the gift of tongues that accompanies the baptism in the Holy Spirit, which every believer can receive, and the gift of tongues that is a ministry gift.

I hope this is understood... It's important.

(For a more detailed teaching on this subject, please read, The Holy Spirit and His Gifts Study Guide - Kenneth Hagin)

I will be talking about the gift of tongues given for every believer. The baptism in the Holy Spirit is for all those who believe (Acts 2:38–39); therefore, speaking in tongues as an evidence of the Spirit’s infilling is also for all those who believe. This cannot be swept under the carpet. If you're born again, you're qualified for the baptism of the Holy Ghost, and speaking in tongues is an evidence of the infilling of the Spirit. No wonder Jesus said "they shall speak with new tongues" Mark 16:17b

Many have been robbed of the blessings God intended them to have by believing that speaking in tongues isn’t for everyone. But the Word shows us that every believer needs to be filled with the Holy Ghost. And the Word says that when we get filled with the Holy Ghost, we will speak with tongues (Acts 2:4).

However, speaking with tongues does not occur as just one initial experience of being filled with the Holy Ghost, and then it ceases. Speaking with tongues is a continual experience for the rest of one’s life.

Notice that in writing to the Church at Corinth, Paul very definitely encouraged the Corinthian Christians to follow the practice of speaking with tongues in their own private prayer lives. And he gave a number of reasons for it.


...to be continued

vooks:
[b]
Am dying to see ANY commentary that thinks 1 Cor 14:4 has nothing to do with edification [/b]or one that thinks personal edification here is a false doctrine because they can't find ANOTHER scripture on tongues edifying privately.

Me too...

vooks:
Winsomex,
Unfortunately this is your own rule. And am surprised you would invoke it seeing you have derived unknown tongue vs tongues distinction WITHOUT a single verse to support your Eisegesis. This broda can't keep his own rules,and he expects us to observe them failure to which we are labeled as peddlers of false doctrine

A simple question I leave you with is, what is 1 Corinthians 14:4 saying?
Once you gain enough courage to answer that, please tell me what scripture 14:4 contradicts or appears to contradict.


Cc Gombs

Ah... I'm back. I have an off day today.

You see the rules my friend create? They give me some laugh.

Let me read on. I've missed much

Our Training In Righteousness - Monday, 2nd November

Pastor Chris

That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord
(Romans 5:21).

Our opening verse talks about the life of righteousness that’s been given to us; the nature of God that’s been imparted into our spirits that makes us like Him. This nature makes you think like Him, talk like Him, and walk like Him; it causes you to reign in life as a king.

Through the Word of God, you’re trained to reign; trained to see and think differently! 2 Timothy 3:16 says, “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.” The Word of God is God’s instruction manual to train you in the way and life of righteousness, and equip you for greatness.

Through the ministry of the Word of God, and the Holy Spirit, you’re taught how to be a success in life, irrespective of your chosen career. With this training, if you’re a lawyer, you’ll be one with a difference. If you’re in the army, you’ll be a soldier with a difference. It makes no difference what your profession is; you’ll be exceptional, because you function with the anointing and grace to reign.

Romans 5:17 says those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life. Refuse sickness, failure, defeat, and death. Reign in life as a king. Reject everything that’s not of God, and endorse only that which is consistent with His perfect will for you. Talk differently; see differently. You’ve been graced to reign, through righteousness.

Confession...
I reign in life unstoppably, walking in God's abundant grace in Christ! I'm like a tree planted by the waterside, with evergreen leaves! I'm lifted always, over and above circumstances! Glory to God!

FURTHER STUDY:
Romans 5:17
For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

John 10:10 (AMP)
The thief comes only in order to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have and enjoy life, and have it in abundance (to the full, till it overflows).

Romans 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

1YEAR BIBLE READING PLAN:
Hebrews 2 Jeremiah 36-37

2 YEAR BIBLE READING PLAN:
John 9:8-17 1 Chronicles 2