@newmi
first you have a grave misunderstanding of n. korea, it is a shame someone would know so little while information on the country is so easily available.

who said, N korea is an excuse for anything.

if God was real, he would be like Kim Jong-il, only several fold worse.

so for everything wrong in N korea, multiply it several times and you have Jesus.

a "gentleman" does not have a son with an underage girl
a gentleman cannot possible kill so many innocent children and animals en-mass
maybe we should redefine gentleman

@Image123
if you believe in witchcraft, then it is true for you, it does not make it true.

please keep that in mind.

come on, lets switch this debate one level higher, stop dragging us into just weak, meaningless quibbles, if you have something challenging, thought provoking, please use this are a forum to explore that. Otherwise, spamming us with cheap, poorly thought ideas is just a waste of everyones time, including yours.

engage us

you need to be aware there is no English word like squirmish

what does this cartoon mean? if it is an indication of how you reason then there lies the problem

@justcool
illogical conclusion that the universe created itself

and it continues to expand before our very eyes. what do you mean, .illogical.
what is logical to you?
Is it a god mating with a human to produce himself? I fail to see how you can make such an outlandish statement.
The back and forth, is not because we have not repeated told you and explained to you, what would otherwise being obvious, and is, for some many people who decide to commit their brains, but because you adamantly refuse to get it.
Yet, that very science clothes you now, feeds you and treats you, and is what has made this forum of discussion possible. It is not basic on irrational dogma, it is designed along the same principles you choose to discredit now.

No we dont ridicule god, we just say it as it is. animals cant fit in the ark, they cant fit. do you want us to collude with you in this very elementary departure from logic.

If you say that you don't believe in the big bang because there is no adequate evidence, how can you possible believe in Abrahams God how can you possible be so picky when it comes to science, yet with religion you just take everything as is.

You cannot force a reason. thats how witchcraft thrives. We cannot make claims without evidence.
Even without the big bang, then we have nothing. We cannot possible claim that there is a force. We have 0 evidence to back that. And it cannot just exist because we feel it is right. We are not talking about feelings here.

@OLAADEGBU
I suppose you mean "squeamish"
It is just that I appreciate the seriousness of this discussion

@plappville
perhaps you have assumed that you are making sensible, reasonable, rational response.
I would highly recommend you read your posts at least once before sending.
what you are saying is not only baseless, has no connection to the parable and you provide 0 evidence to support your extraordinary claims.
now as regards, the verse,
even if you obtuse interpretation, the last verse does not make sense at all,
the verse says, bring then before me and slaughter them, get it
Jesus or God is not doing the killing but the command is to Christians to do the killing,
please read your bible again before you waste everyone's time again

Dear Daiquiri,  some how you assumed I am male,

anyway,  it is confusing. you just have to see the multitudes of denominations each which their interpretation, some times on every integral issues. So it is very devious and contriving of you to claim that there is no confusion. even plappville thinks so are sorely and miserably wrong about the verse in question.

would a perfect god, take so much effort to say very basic ideas in very convoluted ways,  you seem to not only buy into this you actually want to lay your life for it.

when I look out of the window,  you see the trees, grass, and the goats mating in a distance.

when i look in the mirror, I see a product of evolution.

If it is a metaphor is crass, meaningless and idiotic. It a horrible message, told in a horrible way.

If you see someone who commits i.ncest when you look at yourself,  then you are in dire need of psychiatric help.

Matthew 18:9 is another silly verse that just goes to show my point further. How debased of morality jesus can be.

you cannot possibly pass this as true

@VincentVan
it may give you an instant hard on to call be a troll, either way, I speak the truth.
God was not married to Mary and they made a baby together.
It is really very simple

@folaski

Good question, It is a question every human being asks,

You must watch this video carefully, It not only answers your question, but also gives you a good understand of human nature.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT4EWCRfdUg[/flash]

The picture just shows God and mary, and the likely occurrences of that time.
fornication at its best and very much in line with the discussion in this thread
we all know that whatever god does it not a sin
if god does something, it is okay
so fornication should be no different

if the devil rests, god rests
if god does not rest, the devil does not rest
god needs the devil to be relevant to humans
the devil needs god to relevant to humans

if god r.apes it is not evil
if god m.urders it is not evil
if god l.ies it is not evil
if god f.ornicates it is not evil
if god commit mass genocide is not evil
nothing god does it evil

@Uyi Iredia , God is just a word too
Do not be scared by terms like panspermia, just take your time and your will understand. If not, you can ask here, we would be happy to hold your hand into the world of knowledge.

@Daiquiri why would a perfect God confuse us with something like this,
This is clear as can be, and it is not subject to any misinterpretation

I agree, Jesus said some nice things. The same way some poisons have a sweet taste.

Just because he made us smile once in a while, it does mean we ignore the racism, murder, rape, inc.est, genocides, immoral messages, bigotry, human sacrifice etc

@OLAADEGBU
you seem to be fascinated with shouting and trying to intimate people and force them to comply with you at all costs.
You should know that those 'Jesus" years are over.

@OLAADEGBU
Like I said, if this was a shouting game (using big bold red letters) you have already won

@italo
If you read the bible, you would not ask such obvious questions?
Christians please read the bible

@newmi
North Korea is a theocracy. So Kim is just like Jesus. It is a good idea to refresh yourself world affairs.

@Daiquiri
I am not sure if you read the bible
I can't see why you can argue about something so obvious

1. Jesus finished the parable before he said this. What make you think there is contextual fit there? I wonder
2. Let's assume in some weird way, there is slight relation of this verse and the parable, so? is it a good thing? did Jesus not say it? and what else could it possibly mean?

It will help a lot if Christian read their bible instead of wasting everyone's time.

like many christians you have a mastered the specialty of being abusive, clap clap clap I am sure Jesus is very proud.
I hope you have looked at the pic, it is very informative, a picture is like 1000 words, here is the link again
http://i.imgur.com/RUnuK.jpg

look at the pic
it is all there
http://i.imgur.com/RUnuK.jpg

god male, mud female
it is obvious

unless you are saying god is female hahahahahah

and then adam was added into the mix
god, adam, mud



but seriously guys god fornicated with mary,  this is so obvious
he took her

then in Luke 19:27 Jesus said
But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!
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then in Luke 19:27 Jesus said
But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!++

then in Luke 19:27 Jesus said
But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!

money is better because god is satan,

then in Luke 19:27 Jesus said
But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!

then in Luke 19:27 Jesus said
But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!

if it ever existed

if it is a competition of threatening each other, you have already won
if it is about trying to intimidate and spread fear then there is no way I can out do you
if it is about burning , fire, pain , suffering, gnashing of teeth, death, destruction, this is your speciality as a christian
we you do not agree with me, I do not expect you to suffer and feel pain forever to be miserable and cast away to rot forever
I am not like you, I dont glorify in such thoughts

creation is for people who believe in magic
of course it is easier to believe in witchcraft than understand diseases
it takes less faith just a lot more brain