Ijoh:

Dont mistake me for lamidi cownu

the nurses will soon come. Be here playing.

Close this stale thread. It is old news. Have they burnt it ?

Good job. Make their pillows wet every morning with their nightly tears and gnashing of teeth.

I am obidiently IPOB

Independent people of bigGod

He won't win. Why are they bothered with how he intends to win. How can someone be poor and a witch at same time. Bikonu

giantstar:
[Igbos with their usual complain but U have your field days during Jonathan regime quote author=Gourdoinc post=115686627]Good. Teach the history of the Nigerian civil war. It will help those deluded yoruba and northerners to understand what happened in Nigerian history and how badly they have behaved ever since.

Would help to stop the unwarranted bias, hatred and marginalisation of ndi igbo and minorities.


The war of guns ended in 1970, yet they continue to wage civil wars of hate, marginalisation, humiliation, threats and wickedness against the igbos and minority tribes in Nigeria.

what do you mean by field day. You might need to explain that because I just started following politics when I became obidient.

Ndimkpurummiri:
we will rather burn down the Zoo than allow Peter Pandora Obituary to become president

when you are ready to burn down, inform us. We have fuel in large quantities. We will even play music for you so you can make a concert of it. 2023 fire festival loading. Good boy.

Abdul05:
What has he obi done in anambra as a record absolutely nothing..

And all what he is saying now that he will do when he gets to office ...

he should have done some of those things while he was in office if truly he is serious but he failed to do so..

So why now?


Nigerians are not fools..


And also He shouldn't have maltreated those hausana/Fulani while he was in office ..

In short .Obi has no good record .,sorry to say

he did nothing in government. The money he stole from government na him I use buy data now to reply you. Do you also need data money ?.

Ndimkpurummiri:

https://mobile.twitter.com/christ4moi/status/1558751977269612547

you are very correct. He is a liar. He will.be your president next year. How many buckets of tears have you cried today.

QuotaSystem:
A Peter Obi Presidency is an IPOB/ESN presidency in disguise. Period. If in doubt, check his support base and search if he has ever denounced the terrorist group. Even his Hero Beer bears the biafran insignia of a rising sun.

The man is clearly a separatist. We cannot add deadly ipob terrorists to our present security challenges nationwide or promote them from regional to national terrorists.

Same IPOB? In Aso Rock?

Same IPOB that floated the evil Radio Biafra after Jonathan’s loss…

Same IPOB that peddled hate speech and insulted other Nigerians calling them cows, slaves, cowards, almajiri, Afonja and so on…

Same IPOB that insulted and tormented VP Osibanjo calling him an errand boy and mere commissioner just because he was from the S/West…

Same IPOB that pretended to not know the satanic cannibalistic “unknown gunmen” esn terrorists and hailed them in the marketplace….

Same IPOB that parroted Nnamdi Kanu’s hate speech and called Nigeria a zoo and her leader a clone…

Same IPOB that hailed their ESN terrorists after the jailbreak at Owerri Prison, releasing hundreds of convicted criminals that are now terrorizing the entire SE region with murders, kidnappings, cannibalism etc…

Same IPOB that are behind the killings of Ahmed Gulak, Dr. Akunyili and & over 175 government and security agents & throwing their families into mourning and despair…

Same IPOB that introduced Monday Sit At Home that brought several pains and economic losses to ndigbo because their fendi rocking fraudster terrorist leader was captured while looking for kpekus in Kenya…

All for the past 7 years yet these are the same people that are suddenly “obidient” and patriotic Nigerians because they want their IPOB apologist leader PitObi in Power over the Zoo but Nigerians are wiser.

IPOB in Aso Rock? Tufia Kwa.

you are very correct. You give watch am IPOB will.preside over you. Nothing you will do about it.

You are very correct. Now go and take your drugs. It will.soon be time for the nurses to come and lock the chains and padlock around your hands and feet.

Nobody cares.

assholemods:

You are the most senseless person on earth.

so you mean nobody in your family is as senseless as I am ? Including your mum ?

blaise26abj:


I agree with you wholeheartedly regarding the issues . Resource control is the way out . I disagree on that power is localized.Buhari made it so . Politics is politics . We cannot wake up and say it is Igbo that has to be president . You have to fight for it politically at the party levels before Nigerians decide who is the best among them . I hate the Muslim Muslim ticket too as well as the old age of Tinubu . Presidency is not for the frail .
I haven’t decided who to vote for yet . I’m tilting towards Obi but so far so good I am not convinced by his interviews . I intend to vote based on the person who has the best grasp of the problems and the most practical solutions . Even if it comes from Kwankoso. I’m tired of voting based on emotions . Buhari was a result of emotional voting and see the state of the nation .

today it is the igbos agitating, we say go and compete. The ijaw are warming up, the north central are warming up, and many more will warm up. If you think we need to fight for it and not equitably zone for it. We'll it won't take long and someone with a weapon will take it over and insist you cannot leave unless via death.

To compete, the yoruba have sold out the entire South and made us look like slaves who have to beg the north for power. The earlier power is equitably zoned as is practiced in some states and resources are managed by homogenous regions, that will be the only way Nigeria will start it's ascent out of the doldrums.

With respect to obi. Behind him are youths who want their voices to be heard. We are ready to lose the election and will be comfortable with that so long as we aren't marginalised. We have gotten to the level that we don't need new converts. Many who are obidients didn't need convincing. We might all continue to play politics the way we support our football clubs or how we play the PlayStation game of football. We only pick the team who has a chance of winning, yet all our years of doing that has yielded zero dividends.

beyondPen:



Also it will help People know how the Yorubas where been marginalized by Igbos and Hausas before we acted up and formed alliance with the North.

And also to let those Yorubas supporting Obi to see why they show be for the interest of Yoruba land only

do you mean pre civil war ? Or post civil war. Do clarify.

MrBlock:



You didn't mention his name as Kaduna. I did. I stated Major Kaduna Nzeogwu as one of the original coup plotters but you said it was Chukwuma. I then corrected you stating that both Chukwuma and Kaduna Nzeogwu are the same person.

Why did you say you mentioned his name as Kaduna when you didn't?


If Ahmadu Bello was not the first victim, who was? You kept asking me to state the first victim which I did reluctantly only for you to argue against it without any fact to back your argument. Again, why are you so interested in who the first casualty of the coup was? State the name and give details to back your arguement.

Every other thing you mentioned are not part of the argument so I won't respond so as not to derail the conversation. Remember, the backbone of this arguement is that the Igbos are the plotters of the Jan 15, 1966 coup which you have been trying to refute. Kindly provide your closing remarks to this argument so that we can call it a day.

please check other previous comments I made to other people regarding the name. Its on the thread sir. Now the first victim was an igbo man by the definition of those days. He was from bendel state. A military officer. Do your research now and you will find out who he was.

Nevertheless a yoruba man was involved, the enablers of the coup, the men who were behind the whole brouhaha were not primarily igbo men. Mind you the coup was done after 1960, a time Nigeria just got independence, where nationalism was rife and people were behind the prime nationalist ( you know who that is). A couple of politicians at the time were leading their people against that. They wanted the north for the north and so forth ( you have alot of video evidences of the man who died stating this view publicly), the government at the time didn't do anything about that and thus within the army ranks feelings grew that a betrayal of the independence euphoria that gripped the nation was under threat. Bad blood developed for years and regions specifically tribes ( north) sought to establish dominance on the affairs of the government at that time, not for nationalist gains but regional gains, this angered some people, especially young people who felt the joy of nationhood just achieved was being eroded. Some other young men in the army feeling it was their right to fight for Nigeria, resolved that the only solution to it was to get the enemies of Nigeria out of the equation. They consulted widely ( this you can research for names, you will not see such publicly) and got alot of positive support in agreement with their views to fight for the nation.

They plotted, the conscripted, some left before the d day, many stayed, the people who did the leg work were mainly northern soldiers as they were mainly in the rank and file. They seized the amoury , broke into groups with rank and file soldiers and attacked as planned. Some went to lagos in search of some people, some stayed in kaduna to start the process. Some went to the east to do the needful.

Kaduna worked, western worked, east failed.

My question is. The coup was a massive attack plot comprising of junior officers at the time and plenty rank and file. Were all these igbos ? Every tribe was represented. Even though majority were igbos. Go and check the demography of government and the military at the time. Lots sere igbo officers and government officials. Post war we have seen how they have tried to reduce that anyway. Story for another day.

Now I ask. How does a coup started with a burning desire to reset Nigeria back to nationalist views become an igbo coup. What was the aim of the igbos at that time. They already dominated in many fields in Nigeria at that time ( do your research). When the coup was over, did chukwuma take over power or was there a power vacuum?

You see alot of the narratives you have known assumed alot and missed alot.

blaise26abj:


First of all , thanks for the civil conversation.
In your first statement you said you don’t want an Igbo presidency yet said you want an obi presidency without having to play the politics of acceptance . But that is democracy . People must accept you before they vote for you . Learn to play the politics and all will fall into place . You don’t insult other regions and expect them to accept you regardless .

About the equity of distribution , prior to this incompetent man called Buhari , there was semblance of equity . The tribal bigot did all these nonsense . The Yorubas suffered this same thing as well as other tribes .

Check the American civil war . The South had to rebuild their region for years and couldn’t get the presidency for a while . People were killed on both sides in the Nigerian civil war . The Nigerian state would of course find it hard to give the east full power just soon after . Now for me , it is not the fault of Nigerians that you have not developed your region after collecting federal allocations like every other states or learnt to play national politics well enough to take the presidency years after .

Lastly , Obasanjo had all senate presidents from the SE . That’s number 3 citizen . Then Jonathan who you claim to be Igbo was vice and the senate presidency was moved to the North central . Then Jonathan was president for 5-6 years . The east claimed him as their son . So the statement that Nigeria has not been fair to Igbos is false . Besides if you claim Jonathan was brought on because of MEND as Vice , then why can’t Obi be vice to atiku too. It would have been a better ticket especially in the North . My conclusion , the EAST should go and learn how to play politics at the national level !

do you know why Nigeria might never be a developed nation ? I say this with love with emphasis on the never, we have not learnt to understand our peculiarities and adopt existing systems to suit those peculiarities.

Learn to play politics you say, but you fail to realise one main fact. We are not supposed to be a nation by any metric or measurement. A referendum today would prove me right , not just from the igbos but even from the yoruba. That being said. We must understand that what is applicable to America will never work here if we adopt it verbatim. You must localise these solutions to meet the local needs of your people.

What is that solution. Zoning and resource control. That is the only solution to current Nigeria and anything less will always result in what you have seen since 1960.

Whether by a change of constitution or by whatever means everyone must be made to feel a sense of belonging and take note this goes beyond the igbo but to every other tribe or region to be geographically simplified.

Obi presidency is a youthful project and not an igbo one. It is coincidence he is igbo and of course serves that course, but his presidency is driven by youth needs at the moment. If obi wasn't on the ballot, the igbos , like every other election will drink and eat on election day while discussing where to make money on Monday. We don't care. More reasons our own leaders are perennial failures because they aren't help accountable.

Nothing works in Nigeria despite it works elsewhere, the reason is because we don't localise it. Democracy would not work in Nigeria till you localise it. Power must be zoned to all regions equitably. As long as we have to fight for it, then it will be justifiable that someone had to flag a Muslim muslim.ticket in this Nigeria, with promises of sharia to ensure he wins. You will never get good governance from such arrangement short or long term. The past years are testament.

Peter obi not riding on any negotiation, any collaboration except that the youths accept him , youths of all tribes and regions, might start a new consciousness relating to how government is seen in Nigeria. However as politics is , if he fails to achieve his goals, you can be rest assured of more of the same of the past years. Negotiated governance benefiting the negotiators and not the people.

aribisala0:

Tough Guy!!
There is no conversation. I am just setting the facts straight for every other person on the thread . Whether you are always civil or not is your business . I really do not give a shitt
Eboes have kings
Eboes did not support Obasanjo out of altruism but opportunism. They contested lost and fell in line

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aribisala0:
You thrive on lies and fiction

There are Kings many kings across Eboeland e.g Onitsha , Oguta,

Yoruba did not bring forward two people and you chose one.

The Military government decided to install Obasanjo as President

Eboes did not accept they contested in PDP and were defeated so do not say you "KNEW THEY HAD TO BE COMPENSATED" That is a big lie.. Eboes did not believe in that. Ekwueme contested against Obasanjo and lost. What if he had won in PDP would Eboes have voted for Falae

Putting obasanjo there was no compensation . A man that was not popular who could not get 25% in any Yoruba state? You people always think you have sense and others do not. It is amusing

wow. This is great. Using the term eboes for me has ended this conversation. I wanted to be civil here. I am not always civil. Check my posts sir. Cheers.

MrBlock:


I'm not sure why you want to debate this with you.

I already mentioned Chukwuma in my list. Chukwuma is the same person as Kaduna Nzeogwu. His full name is Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu. Clearly, you have a sketcky knowledge of the details.

The first leg of the coup was through a military training operation called Exercise Damisa. Nzeogwu led soldiers in training to Ahmadu Bello's house and shot him dead along side his wives. Ahmadu Bello was the Premier of the Northern Region at that time. Can you imagine how traumatizing this must have been for the northern people?

please read slowly and comprehend sir. I know what I meant when I mentioned his name is kaduna. Ahamdu bello wasn't the first victim, nevertheless he was a victim. How the northerners felt ? They showed it twice by killing hundreds of thousands of innocent men and women. Equitable ? Well depends on who you ask. All is fair in love and war. Now a war ensues isn't it. Millions are killed both sides. War is declared to end , with no victim no vanquished. The east lost the war. Their lands were made desolate , their People made poor. If there is no vanquished because you still want us all as Nigerians, what was done to rebuild the east. Both physically and otherwise.

Why is an igbo man still treated with contempt and anger by the political elite and electorate. Why isn't he trusted if truly there was no vanquished. Oh maybe we need to admit the truth that the igbos lost the war, maybe that explains why he is 5percent , maybe that explains why he is mocked as a roamer whose lands were made desolate.

Do you now wonder why some People feel unwelcomed and desire to leave ?

So I ask again. My initial question. Why is the war on the igbo still in progress

mu2sa2:
It will also inculcate in the children in SE never to start a war they know they can't win and never allow a delusional fellow ever to come to power and mislead them.

it is a lesson for everyone. I hope your tribe is taking cue as well. Ditto to Sunday igboho. A civil war in your land would not be fun for anyone there

blaise26abj:


Please tell me anywhere where a Yoruba leader insulted Igbos ? Please can you confirm that too ? Why would UGM kill fellow Igbos ? Why would an Anambra man look down on other Igbo states . Ebonyi Igbos are still looked upon as lesser Igbos .

The bloody coups in nigeria were mostly led by Igbos and they were tribalistic in who they killed . Please look it up . Also after the war , yorubas returned all your properties in the west . If we hated you we would have kept your properties for ourselves like in Rivers state .
No WAR is being waged on an Igbo man ! Obi is the only Igbo since the 1999 that has National appeal , yet some tribalistic Igbos are still attacking yorubas l instead of trying to get as much people to vote for him . I find very distasteful that Igbos are trying divide Yoruba Christians and Yoruba Muslims . We are Yorubas , we don’t do religious segregation.

IPOB was as a result of a fake, foul-mouthed man like MNK . You have governors in the east , they get federal resources like every other state , why have there not been stellar infrastructural development of the region ? We have the same opportunities as Nigerians . Igbos are doing exceedingly well in business across nigeria . But the truth that you are avoiding is that Igbos are DIVIDED and has so much distrust and hate within .

If it is the Presidency issue that makes you think Igbos are victims of a fictitious war , then you have no understanding of politics at all especially in a d multicultural country like nigeria . Get you politics right and Igbos will get the presidency

wrong. That's where people get it wrong. Igbo enye eze means igbos have no king. We don't desire an igbo presidency. We don't care really about such politics. What we care about is equity in distribution and that's why we want igbo presidency. Asides Peter obi, who rightly had national appeal, we don't give a hoot about any other politician , but what is equitable is that all regions even if they are made up of goats should be given a chance.

Let's assume there is a war today between the south west and Nigeria. Lagos, ibadan , oshogbo. Akure and ilorin are laid desolate, it's war, its bound to happen, people a driven to loss both financially and otherwise, its war and its bound to happen. When the war ends I should believe that rebuilding must be done isn't it . So I ask, was that done? Should that not have been done? If the people.have to build their desolate lands themselves through the brows of their sweat , how do you think they would view the nation that desolated their land.

When it was 1999, nobody asked the yoruba is they had good politicians, we all knew they had to be compensated for abiola and 1993 and they Brough forth two people. We picked one. When MEND was making our lives a living day of hell and it was thought that possibly a neutral man from their end become president, we all.agreed and supported him, even though he was a poor politician.

It is equitable that developments are shared equally and not fought for across of regions, it is equitable that a national merit list for federal employment is spread to include everyone irrespective of tribe and religion ( take note that even yoruba are now victims of this marginalization).

The igbos seeks equity in Nigeria, that's it. If it should be an igbo man, then it should be him, he must not have to negotiate it according to atiku or play the politics of acceptance. That's not how to run an all inclusive nation.

As for the property thing, yes the yoruba did that. That explains why we settled there and continued life when though they occupied and took over things we owned in many cases as well. We have lived without much issues up till now together.

realestate99:

Lol, delusion of grandeur, a prime trait of Ipobic dwarfs, do you know me? Do you know my age? Ignorance is brought about by assumption.

ok. But I am a millennial. E don do. This dialogue shouldn't have taken place.

EponOjuku:


You are only deceiving yourself, talking ignorantly with confidence as if you were the organising secretary of the coup plotters.

Simple question I asked, you've not been able to answer. Maybe they were not written in your coup plotter's book and you have nowhere to read the answers.

well when you start attending the history classes, I will be invited to teach you about the events as they happened. So let's leave that matter till we meet In class. Okay. Now for you it is bye bye.

ola9ja:
You equally need to understand the history of who plotted the first coup d'etat and the reason why it was plotted and to know who the betrayals really are.

everyone needs the education. Maybe after that my post will still ring true. Why are you still fighting civil war against the igbo man over issues of 50 years ago.

We have both spilled lots of blood for it. So what else is needed to end the war against the igbo man.

EponOjuku:


The age of Methuselah has nothing to do with the wisdom of Solomon. Fools also grow old

true. The bolded explains why you suddenly suffered mental dissonance. Not my fault. Read it again. But very slowly. I understand

gbemishile:

Ooh.
Someone born of igbo parents isnt igbo,because he was born in the north abi?
You killed the northerners and even said it to their face.
Why do u think when they came into government,they tried to occupy all major government arms innthe country-millitary,airforce,police etc.

that's it. When a nigerian is born in America and he does a mass shooting. When the news says "a Nigerian involved in mass shooting" you get annoyed and say he should be called American.

Now it is igbo, you remember the village of his mother. You see what I am saying

Now with respect to the northerners, do I blame them? Nope. The coup made them lose someone of importance to them. One man named ahmadu bello ( their anger till today). They butchered hundreds of thousands of igbos in retaliation and were principal in a three year long fought war.

Now isn't that enough ? When a war is ended with no victim , no vanquished. Should that not end the war ?.

Why the continuous systematic attack on the igbo person. Why are issues of over 50 years ago still at play in today' s Nigeria.

Does it surprise anyone that some igbos are reverting back to the feelings that created biafra in the first instance? Why has the war not ended.

A genocide against a people , wanton destruction, no repair efforts, yet they survive. Why is the war still raging today against the igbo.

ransomed:



Another fable from hearsay, that Yorubas hate Ijebus. Where are you getting all these women gossips from?
The OSU mythology in ibo land should be your basis and your responses so far portray that you belong to same school of thought.
Deluge your mind with peaceful living by making peace with all. Let ndigbos be serious and have a voice instead of discriminating Anambra people, ebonyi, Enugu etc .
Let it ndigbos selling themselves to political money bags,

hmmm. Women gossips. Lol.

Well since you are on OSU. Its been abolished. Don't indulge in women gossip sir.

We are peaceful with all, we live everywhere, it is people like you who say ( igbo man should leave lagos to his poto poto region when election time draws near, yet his taxes to the state are good enough). Who will need help with changing the narrative of hate.

The history lessons will help alot in that domain at least for your children.

sofiscatedmoron:

Nobody hates u , self hate hurts

it would soon be your turn. Don't cry then. It's coming .

realestate99:

You see, I have made you changed your stance twice, shows you are a shallow soul, the civil war has ended but igbos are still looking for vengeance consciously or unconsciously, that is why millennials like you are fed with hate and anguish everyday.

The only good thing you can do for your kids is to raise them with an open mind but I doubt that since your mind has been polluted beyond redemption.

only God knows what you are now on about. Maybe you didn't comprehend what you said. Well that's no fault of mine sir. If I take ten years from.my age, I was still your senior in school.

gbemishile:

The history should also include the beginning when a young deluded kaduna nzeogu killed most of the nigerian leaders in the country,with tge ugbos becoming the first tribe to spill the blood staining the nigerian flag

true. Facts at deluded. But who made him deluded, its a well kept secret of the Nigerian state. Plus chukwuma nzeogwu isn't igbo , wasn't born in igbo land, doesn't even speak igbo fluently in relation to his fluency in the languagse of his state of birth and nurture. His name is kaduna. He was a fine soldier. History would have been different if he had handled the killing of nwafor orizu and not that of ahmadu bello. Fools botched it and today we suffer for a nationalistic coup termed the igbo coup.

Or maybe they should not have had the coup. All in all, why has the war continued after 1970

EponOjuku:


It is a book written by a coup plotter that tells you your history. No wonder if I gather your father, your mother and 6 of your type and ask you all where you originated from, you will give 6 different answers. You lot have a natural disability of understanding history.

I asked very simple and direct questions but you are referring to a book.

Why did the coup plotters not kill a single Igbo man in their coup?
Why did Ironsi protect the coup plotters by moving them to Owerri?
Why did Ironsi introduce the Unification decree which favoured the Igbos?

The coup plotters soared Azikiwe and hid Nwafor Orizu but you are here defending rubbish. Thank God history studies have been restored.

I will not explain that publicly. As for the bolded, it shows you are a neonate on this matter. Maybe on a dead thread will I discuss this with names and timelines.

The civil war is a dead issue, however the lessons from it haven't been learned , that's why it still rages on today. Soon it will consume us all.