frankyychiji:
Which kain rubbish question be this? Even a new born knows that janja.weeds invented and perpetrate that fraud.

When I saw that word "janjaw..." For the first time, I laughed out hard, I think that was one of the things that attracted me to nairaland, the rate of homor the forum attracted. Do you really know how that word emerged? I would like to know

Ephemmm:
Before election, I thought the likes on post of APC supporters were fraudulent, until the time when the election was shifted. As at then, it was evident that APC has won on land, in the air, in the sea, and on nairaland even before the final defeat recorded by GEJ .

Very funny @land, sea and air

ELTON123:

Oga you book space but you no come talk again

It has become a practise on social media to open various accounts for the same or various purposes and personality displays, but it looks like on nairaland, the active participants in the politics section are the most guilty of this trend.

Have you wondered why a topic with only 50 page views would have a single comment with over 200 likes?

The answer is simple, the people posting those comments and giving those likes are just few persons using multiple accounts. But while you can fool people by using multiple accounts to post different comments in order to create an impression that other people share your opinion, you cannot fool the computer, at least not so easily.

Modern websites use a combination of tools like cookies and ip address to track unique page visits on every page of the website, therefore no matter how many accounts you login to using the same computer or browser, it records only your first visit. So while you can post 100 comments on the same topic, the computer sees you are the same person and it will give you only one page view on the same browser.

However, there are ways you can increase the number of page views using the same computer but that is beyond the scope of this discussion

So when next you see a topic with only 50 page views but 200 likes on a comment on the same topic, you already know why it is so.

So tell me, which political party supporters are most guilty of this?

Nice! Maybe I'll beat nairaland and proceed further to take that first spot soon.

Well written. Mr President seems to have forgotten the tempo with with he was elected. Slowing things down is one of the earliest mistakes he made. Nigerians are already adjusting to the former notion that "they will all do the same thing no matter what they say during elections"

There is no change in the legislature, none has been seen yet in the executive, and none is yet to be seen in the judiciary, where is the change then?

I expected Mr President to have hired his experts to draw a Plan A, Plan B and Plan C for his governance in Nigeria

Meeting an empty treasury, which he already said was going to happen, would have spurred Plan A into action since it eventually happened.

Businesses need to be created in order for jobs to be available. Mr President needs to make this happen. If the National Identity Mnagaement Agency cannot make this happen, they should all be fired and another set of professionals reinstituted, after all, the banks didn't achieve BVN through a miracle.

I am really not satisfied yet at all by the slowness of action of this government, words cannot express it..

Time will tell if the APC will be able to retain its mandate into the next dispensation. God bless us all

Every year new contract for satellite imaging, wasn't this for the same purpose they signed a contract with china twice to launch satellites within the past 10 years or so?

More like their culture, didn't know people are still this primitive in some parts of Nigeria. What city is this?

ADIBEFRANK:
my dear i somuch like ur ideas on this issus hw i wish that we 9jar go be like this.

Thanks bro!

themodernman:


Please explain your 3rd paragraph in detail about Banks being able to trace you with d card even if you run away.

First of all there's something called audit trail in database administration. With this, a bank can trace whatever is done by any of its staff or clients on any of its systems, either accessing their account, checking a client's account, accessing your account using any of its mediums like atm, internet banking etc.

A bank can put a trail on any particular client, to know for instance, what you do at any point in time on your account, en and where you made your last withdrawal etc, and with the BVN, a bank will now be able to know what you're doing elsewhere.

For instance, if you run away with a bank's money, they have your BVN, all they need do is request from the other banks, a trail of your activities within a specified period of time. The fact is that you don't perpetually use cash everywhere you go, so you use ATM, withdraw cash etc.

Now, remember that with the new National Identity, the Banks will also request you to update your national ID, the next time you go get a drivers license, they'll also request the ID, same with the next time you go to apply or renew your International passport etc. With your national Id card tied to everything you do, its very easy to know where you are at any point in time as long as technology picks you up anywhere, let me explain further on this.

In the US or advanced countries for instance, the police database is connected to every other public database, like schools, banks, hospitals, even credit card processing companies like Mastercard and VISA, so whenever they're looking for you, all they need to do is request a live audit trail on you, so once you go to a restaurant and pay with your ATM card, the bank picks up your most recent location and it is fed LIVE into the police network, same with when you go to a clinic to get checked up, infact in these countries, your car is registered to you so it might even be a traffic camera picking you up somewhere, you might even get stopped on the road for a traffic violation and that's it, they just punch in your drivers license and the chase is over.

In Nigeria, however, we are yet to interconnect our systems to work that way, but be rest assured that as long as we are setting up the database now using all these BVN, National ID etc, it will happen soon or whenever, but they can strill trace you, but it will take longer, how? Because as long as your hospital has your records, the bank has your records, Immigration has your records, road safety has your records, your atm says your last known location etc, its easier. If you stop banking or using your atm and you decide to travel abroad, all the bank needs to do is tell the police to ask the road safety, immigration etc to check if your activity was picked up anywhere, and yipeee, the immigration picked you up travelling to the UK, and what's next? The police writes to the UK government to tell that a so so individual came into their country with so so passport number, and the UK will simply tell them, okay we picked up his location somewhere using a debit card he now uses which he applied for using that passport number. Better still, if you're banking in Nigeria with any bank and using your atm abroad, the bank already knows where you are. That's why when you request your account history, it tells where you used your ATM at anytime anywhere in the world, it may not be detailed on your account statement but it is detailed on their system because that information comes from Mastercard or VISA who issued that card, so once you're doing your shopping happily at McDonalds, your bank already knows the moment you paid for those stuff using your ATM, it records in their system, and if they decided to put an audit trail on you, then something else might happen, like your name popping up on someone's computer to say "go go go, he's at McDonalds".

You see, we're in a global community like they say. Gradually we'll get there, its happening slowly but its gonna happen eventually

These people are really learning from us, I wrote about this in my frontpage article!

The process is slow and it seems the management is incompetent as compared with the implementation of the BVN, but it should be implemented by law so that we have a unique ID system in Nigeria.

With your National ID, you should qualify for certain incentives like loans, overdraft etc, it would be mandatorily needed by banks as soon as it is implemented, so that they will tie every person to their accounts nationwide. Banks will even stop asking for collateral for certain amounts of money because you can no longer run with their money and if you do, they already know where you went to because the system is also tied to your international passport, drivers license etc and once you leave the country, they know where you are and they will easily write to the host country that you're a fugitive

Also, once you're arrested by the police, the first thing they do is take your thumbprint and your details come up immediately, that offense is recorded and your crime history is easily available to law enforcement to track you and invite you for questioning when you are spotted within a location where a crime is committed, that's the system used abroad to draw up a list of suspects when a crime has no face on it

Also, before you rent a house, your landlord gives you a form and requests your Identity which he uses to run a background check with the authorities to know if you have outstanding criminal cases like child abuse (in case he has kids that could be vulnerable).
Before you get a job, get admission into school, run for a political appointment, get a loan from the bank or lending company etc, a bankground check is done with your identity

It has been long overdue in a country like Nigeria having serious security issues and abuse of office and power issues.

This makes sense but Nigerians have to start from somewhere, we cannot say that because we haven't seen all the places Nigeria's money leaks out from, then we can't perform our role as watchers and preservers of democracy. Maybe when legislators get hurt by this act from citizens, they will then sit up and find other ways to assist us wipe out all other leaks in the executive too

Its a shame! Public money is used recklessly without regard or consideration for suffering Nigerians who can hardly afford basic needs

The only time politicians remember that there is no money is when it is to be used for public good and invested in development, like when it is to be used to provide social welfare, create jobs and empower businesses with loans

naijainfogalery:
Giving youths 500k wont only make them lazy but will kill our country, you dont just dash out free money to people. I would advice that they do 6 months service and 4 to 6 months trainning on any field of their choice. Giving people that money even though its small will just kill some peoples life for life
Give the youths an enabling environment to succeed and dont give them money, how do you give money to someone that have no idea of business to do business.

It could be made available as a loan or overdraft (optional), if you like eat it, it will be deducted on your account gradually using your BVN, unless you stop banking in Nigeria. If you like run away, One day you'll need something from government, like renewing your drivers license, getting or renewing international passport etc.

Velocitron:


Dude, you're freaking awesome, you're one of my favorite people on Nairaland.

Thanks Ma'am!

FTC Article! Straight to the point and informative...

shadowgwalker:


even if e happen for your front koro koro you won't still believe cos boys like you believe we are really in a freeworld.

your list;
-1 even if the high tension was pictured, it's of no use cos you will also request for picture of the current.
-2 you are not a scientist, birds get electrocuted if they have open wounds or infections on their feet. yes! I know because my compound is directly under one and when it happens the light goes off for Somme minutes.
-3 it's possible she could be alive, every human is unique in strength and moreover she's a witch, plus the force of gravity brought her down, electric field is different from magnetic field which is for only Robocop and ironman.
4-you just have to dash me so many 'like ' right now.

Hello, I am a scientist, however you concluded I'm not is kinda laughable. I don't even know where to start to correct your impression (ignorance) about birds getting electrocuted, please read up this link, it used a lay man's language to explain why birds don't get electrocuted and what they would do and get electrocuted:

http://www.pa.msu.edu/sciencet/ask_st/040793.html

Based on the link I gave you, when you get to that part he said "its strictly for birds" what he actually meant was, "don't try that as a human" because you're not as small as a bird to be able to perch on ONLY one of the wires without touching anything else like the bird. As a human, that's almost impossible.

Also please read this up, my reply to someone, Ignorance is killing Africans:

https://www.nairaland.com/2390968/bird-turns-woman-after-electric/6#34937337


You can just google it yourself and find out more

nwadiuko1:
your number 2 is so so wrong (I don't know about birds) I have seen an EEDC guy thrown more than 20 yards to his death when just one of the high tensions cables he was working on was made live ( either intentionally or mistakenly) by their ppl in their office......the guy died

I explained this earlier to one of those who replied to my threads, actually electrical engineers will understand me better, the reason he died was probably because he was standing on a ladder, which was connected to the ground obviously, what the cables want is someone to complete the circuit so the voltage can pass through, birds perch on only one of the cables without touching anything else, if a human being can do same, he won't be electrocuted, but its almost impossible cos the wires are close to each other and you can hardly suspend yourself to hang in the air and hold only one of the cables without touching anything else, but birds do that

If you hear that a bird got electrocuted on a high tension, just know that something unseen or unspoken happened, maybe a tree branch was touching that high tension an the bird touched it, the bird was big enough to stand on the cable and flap its wings to touch another of the cables at the same time etc

Ezyp:

Bros you are on ur own oooo

Those cables you see each carries a volt of about 330,000volts.... They are not like your wall socket at home that has + or -

Lol, I know it sounds crazy but that's engineering for you. The knowledge is good for those who climb high tension wires so that when they find themselves in precarious situations, they should at least try to do something to prevent a tragedy

donvicky2007:


I hope u have not see the power of high tension with current passing through it.it has d power to divide human being at d same time roast its victim.
According to ur number observation, bird can't be electrocuted if they stand on their feet on a high tension wire with flowing current cox their feet is been coated with a non-conductor of electricity but not including their body.

In the case of one high tension wire don't have d ability to electrocute a person as u claimed,Let's go practical go to ur house if their is Light go and touch just d red wire and feel the effect then u can imagine what a high tension wire with current passing through it can do to a person.

You didn't quite understand me. Its not the coating on their feet that prevents them from getting electrocuted, this will be better understood by a student of engineering.

When a bird stands on both feet or even rests on a high tension wire without touching anything that has connection to the ground, they won't be electrocuted, when you hear that a bird got electrocuted on a high tension wire, something else happened that wasn't explained or wasn't understood by a lay man

Similarly, if a man can successfully hold only one of the high tension wires without touching anything else like lar or anything else, just hang in the air (which is impossible in Nigeria because of the way the high tension wires are fixed close to each other), he won't get electrocuted by the high tension.

In order to get electrocuted, the high tension needs that man or bird to complete the circuit, that is, either touch another one of the wires, or something else like a ladder, tree or anything that is connected to the ground.

So as long as the bird doesn't touch another object or wire apart from the one it is standing on, it won't get electrocuted

Do you remember "cross ventilation"? It is when you have an inlet and outlet for air to pass through. When you open one window and close the other facing it in the opposite direction, it feels like air refused to come in, but once you open the other window, you feel this sudden rush of air coming in

Science has gone deep in explaining a lot of things that are mysterious to people, but many don't read and these things will continue to remain mysteries and superstitions will rule as long as we refuse to question, study and learn

gudluckgreat:


Does that really look like a painting to you?
I thought you would av answered the person who quoted you of where the fire came from.
If indeed there was fire or some sort of visible accident will even the lastma be looking and allowing it without helping?
If indeed it happened as the story went,I bet you no matter how much the voltage,she will live a little to observe her case before she dies

After I looked closer, I realized it doesn't look like painting, but I cannot justify electrocution for this. Do you know what electrocution does? It destroys all the organs in the body, just like when high voltage burns a cable, that cable or equipment can't function anymore.

Watch the photo, her clothes were burnt too, does electricity also char clothes except there is fire?

Brianino:
guy oh please shut up already...you see science cant explain everything nt even the origin of life never mind darwinism,as a medical doctor, i guarantee u that there are spiritual things that defy logic and science..how can u explain a man diagnose of cancer coming back and he is diagnose free of the cancerous cells..somethings r beyond human comprehension....so quit your childish argument and face facts..witches do exist..infact they even hv an associatn..DOUBTING THOMAS..at times am shocked at the laziness of human facultative thinking...

Have you heard of the "Killer Lake" in cameroun? If you say or do something "bad" against the lake, it kills, at least that was the myth, though real in a way. It happened that people of the community "angered" the lake and it killed all of them, which was true, within minutes, that lake killed everyone in the community because of the "sacrilage" they commited, till...

Some researchers went into that community to investigate the deaths. They found that there was no "witch" in that lake killing people whenever they sinned against it, rather...

There was a volcanic eruption that occurred in that lake many years ago but part of it was still active though not erupting, so this caused the lake to compress a very high volume of CO2 (carbon IV oxide) inside it. Once in a long time, most of this gas escapes in high volume and it kills everyone within the community instantly depending on how much of it escaped. Carbon IV oxide is colourless and odourless so you won't see or smell it. Carbon IV is the air you breathe out when you breathe in oxygen, but much of it released into the atmosphere kills within seconds or minutes. Carbon IV is the reason why people sufforcate when they are locked up in a room without air coming in from outide, when they breathe in the gas and breathe it out, with time everywhere is filled with the gas and they die due to suffocation, its also plenty in smoke with carbon II oxide so people trapped in fire in a room die of the gas before even the fire reaches them, so when a fire fighter dies, its not necessarily the fire that killed but the smoke, especially when their oxygen is exhausted

So if you really don't have more evidence suggesting that this story is true, accept that your belief is a guess at best. However, I do believe that evil exists thought we might have differences in our understanding of its nature

gmus:


Athough i dont believe this story,but if a part of a bird touches the neutral line of a 4-wire(star connectn) system and another part touch either the red, yellow or blue line, the p.d. across d two body parts will be about 220kv.Electric current will flow. This scenario is however not pissible in a 3-wire (delta connectn) system.

Yeah, even if the bird touches 2 live wires only, the PD would be about 315V so the bird would still be electrocuted. Its very possible the bird was a big one and somehow that happened, tha narrators didn't describe the size of bird or anything like that so the story will be in contention till a more plausible description is given

caprini1:
Well av seen a bird get blown to pieces at the high tension cables at the National theartre,in Lagos

Just like lightening could strike at someone using a cellphone and electrocute that person (a hypothesis), would you say that cellphone kills in this regard?

Lanretoye:

I am not sorry for you atall, e be like you don try hold high tension life wire before. even birds self no be all the part of their body fit resist electricity.

I don't really mean to argue but this is electrical engineering which I don't expect everyone to understand, if a bird gets electrocuted on a high tension then there's an unseen reason why it happened.

Lanretoye:

I am not sorry for you atall, e be like you don try hold high tension life wire before. even birds self no be all the part of their body fit resist electricity.

I don't really mean to argue but this is electrical engineering which I don't expect everyone to understand, if a bird gets electrocuted on a high tension then there's an unseen reason that it happened.

Icon4s:


I dnt so. Look closely

Well, not interested in the story any further.

arsenalqueen:
Do you think I am one of them, please look closely at my photo and tell me

Fixed

Don't you watch nollywood movies?

Icon4s:


But this doesn't look like a Nollywood movie.

I mentioned nollywood because when people in a certain kind of cult are meeting, they paint themselves black. Looks like she painted herself black all over her body and she was never burnt

Icon4s:


I don't really believe in things like this but this story has kept me thinking.
If she was nt electrocuted then how did she get burnt?
Was there a fuel tanker explosion around that viscinity?
Was there a car crash around?
Did any house get burnt around?
Did her husband set her ablaze?

So where is the fire that consumed her from? Maybe Holy Ghost fire.

If someone gets electrocuted by thousands of volts to be burnt like that, believe me, that person has zero chance of being alive. Most electrocutions that kill do not char the individual. I think perhaps she already had a black paint coloring on her, typical of what is seen on Nollywood movies when people are fraternizing (they paint themselves black)

I have some Observations:

1. The high tension was not pictured above the woman as convincing evidence
2. Electrically (scientifically), birds do not get electrocuted because perching on only one of the high tension wires will not electrocute them or anyone who stays on only one of the 3 or 4 high tension cables
3. I don't believe one will get burned by electricity like she was and still stay alive, my guess is that fire or something else did that, Maybe she painted herself black to resemble an occultic person (as they do in Nollywood movies)

4. I am not an expert, my argument is open to contest