ifyalways: Gudit,teachers getting "trained" does not equal them having "good moral standard"

A teacher can still be a ra.pist , paedophile or a teen mom and if as such, do you think its right for such a person to be in position of teaching a child seex education?

Sisi_Kill:
I agree that information is necessary, however you laid out a plan that seems somewhat far reaching. . .where the teachers and the government control what the media should broadcast. Considering how long these kinds of tasks take come into being, don't you think it would be easier if the parents just stepped in and took control of what their children are watching right now?

Sisi_Kill:

Gudit, don't you think it would be much easier for a parent to just pull the plugs. . .I mean the plugs to the TV, the computer, the phone etc?

Mavia1: Well, Gudit, you've raised lots of points and lots of questions that time could not permit me to answer all. I'm sorry about this. However, no matter what a teacher does or does not do, the parent is at the central part of a child and is therefore responsible for anything that pertains to the child, especially Sex Education. This goes for media and government as well. Thank you.

which many teachers are not even passionate enough to listen or understand these children

Moreover, a father does not need Formal training before he can raise his own son? He has enough experience

Mavia1:
If only parents cared enough about their children...This is why a child should be free to report cases of suspected sexual activities by teachers to their parents. I don't understand why parents would trust a teacher. You are the parent. He/she is your child. Your blood. Your pride. Your future. Your investment. Your product. Your baby. Your joy. Your heart. Your everything. Why should you trust a teacher with this precious gift? Teachers should be monitored by parents. It is not the teacher's fault, it is because you (parent) have decided to close your eyes.

Mavia1:
Note, i said "primary responsibility". Do i neglect my child because i want to provide her with food or education? No. The life of a child is nothing compared with the wealth or fame i could gather in a lifetime. Of course, the parents should work, but never place your work above your children. There should be checks and balances. Limits should be defined. I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth but the values instilled in me by my parents is the driving force behind my success and moral sanity. Have you heard of Home School? If a parent cannot train a child in school and the government does not make provisions, keep your child in your home and train him/her well. You don't need lots of money to do that.

Mavia1:
Who pays the teachers? Parents. Who pays the government (taxes)? Parents. I wish i could insert a mind map here. If you remove parents from this link, do you think teachers or the government can stand well? Parents are the pillars that hold these two together. Their roles cannot be neglected as regards Sex Education

Parents (the sane ones), cannot violate their children

take for instance, if I had a cute little girl- my daughter, I would give anything to make her happy and live a good life. I would be passionate about her. I wouldn’t want her to be misled or molested. She would be mine. I would have great interest in her. However, if she had a teacher she loved as well- a wonderful teacher. The teacher wouldn’t be as passionate about her future and intimate activities as I would, because she is my daughter and I would know, love and understand her better.

Teachers are NOT magicians. They are not omnipresent or omniscient. They have about 25 students they deal with. Some schools even have about 40 pupils or more in a class. Do you really expect a single teacher to monitor the intimate activities of 40 children? Common, let’s be realistic. Will the teacher be efficient? No. As a parent, you have less than 25 children to deal with and you still want to pass the bulk of the blame on the teachers? Doesn’t it sound ridiculous to you?

Teachers have also been caught to violate children

Who can control the media, the teachers? No!

Where are the parents? They have left their primary responsibility in search of money, pleasure, fame, etc. Who are they working for? They usually claim it is for the sake of their children.

Mavia1:
Does this mean you agree that parents have failed in their responsibilities as regards Sex Education?

St Joan1:

In some countries, the age of consent is 13, some have 14, some, like my country, have 16 years of age.
If you are old enough to have sex, and you go and have sex, the chances are big that you know about the risks, including getting pregnant.
And if you do NOT know and don`t take responsibility ( using protection ), you know what the outcome CAN be; kids, STD`s.
And if you do not know..well, sorry, the parents failed.

the government passed a bill on the age of consent to be 16 years because by their curriculum given to teachers, the children should have been taught about sex and the dangers as early as Primary 6. (this obtains in Nigeria) i was supposed to have been taught this in primary 6 but sadly the teacher wrote "sex education" on the board but told us plainly that he could not discuss it

Mavia1:
Oh yes. I agree with you. In cases where everybody could not comply with the mandate, who educates the child that could not get into school on sexual activities and the harms associated with it?
This is my final question. Thank you

Mavia1:
According to Merriam-Webster dictionary, a parent is one who brings up and cares for another. In respect of this definition, if the 16-year-old could comfortable bring up and care for a child, i believe she is well-equipped to educate her child about sex. The only factor that could disqualify her is the inability to bring the child up reasonably. Don't you think her age does not really matter in this case? Don't you think she could be matured and strong enough to teach her child not to make the same mistakes she made?

Mavia1:

Why do you think they feel uncomfortable?

Mavia1:
Pray tell me, is there a country in the world that has all her children in schools? Is that attainable? What is the fate on those that could not get into school? Are they excused form learning the basics of Sex Education? Do we blame the teachers for those that couldn't get into school too? Or are there exceptions?

Mavia1: There was a young girl of 9 who confided in me on how she was abused by her uncle who was living with them. I encouraged her to tell her parents about it. After much persuasion, she agreed.

Don't you think she as afraid of that same reaction from her parents that's why she came to you? Don't you think her parents would have listened more to her teachers than her? Due to the fact that she is a small girl and may have an over imaginative mind? If she was close to her teachers won't she have confided in them? Instead the teachers of today make themselves unapproachable and distant.

The parents signed her up for deliverance in the church, thinking she was possessed.
If the church had a counsellor won't they have listened to the young girl and counselled the parents?
If the government had provided a help line for sexually abused children as seen in some countries wouldn't she have been helped?

Where are the parents? They have left their primary responsibility in search of money, pleasure, fame, etc. Who are they working for? They usually claim it is for the sake of their children.
If the parents don't go out to search for money, how do you expect them to provide the basic needs of a child such as food, education? Of what use is sexual education to a hungry, malnourished and uneducated child?
Who can control the media, the teachers? No!
The teachers are employed by the government and the government has control over the media. There is a link between these three. Teachers have meetings with the government over educational issues. Parents DON'T!
Teachers have also been caught to violate children.
We have more incidences of parents violating children than teachers.
What about that?
Teachers are NOT magicians. They are not omnipresent or omniscient. They have about 25 students they deal with. Some schools even have about 40 pupils or more in a class. Do you really expect a single teacher to monitor the sexual activities of 40 children? Common, let’s be realistic. Will the teacher be efficient? No. As a parent, you have less than 25 children to deal with and you still want to pass the bulk of the blame on the teachers? Doesn’t it sound ridiculous to you?
Why do you think that in most schools, teachers are 2 to 3 in a class? Teachers are trained to deal with this issues. What do you expect of a father in a polygamous setting? If you cannot expect a trained and paid teacher to monitor 25 kids how do you expect a single father who is untrained to monitor his kids?

Take for instance, if I had a cute little girl- my daughter, I would give anything to make her happy and live a good life. I would be passionate about her. I wouldn’t want her to be misled or molested. She would be mine. I would have great interest in her. However, if she had a teacher she loved as well- a wonderful teacher. The teacher wouldn’t be as passionate about her future and sexual activities as I would, because she is my daughter and I would know, love and understand her better.
If you would teach and understand her better, why send her to school to learn biology and anatomy when you are quite familiar with the female anatomy?

Parents (the sane ones), cannot violate their children.
Don't categorise. They are all parents I Th The major responsibility lies on the parents, while they share a minor percentage with the teacher(s). The child leaves home for school and still comes back home to watch TV and read magazines.
If the teachers had given adequate assignments or home works to the children, which time do they have to watch tv?
You only get educational materials in school from teachers, not movies, porn magazines, social forum, etc. So why blame the teachers?
I used to exchange mills and booms with my english teacher. Erotic novels are distributed more in schools during classes and the teachers see this books but do not seize them. Speaking from a personal experience
3. The child spends more leisure time at home, or away from school, especially on weekends. Free access to the internet, TV, magazines, etc. the teacher will not come from school to control the media access at home. We have Parental Controls on satellite TV networks, but have you ever heard of Teacher Controls? Even the media acknowledges the fact that the onus of the control lies with the parents.
Who uses parental controls for teenagers? They are smarter than that. Most times they are the ones who teach the parents how to operate the TV

I’ve had opportunities to work with children for years, and I’ve come to realize that at ages 1-3, they tend to dance to interesting tunes that catch their attention. You can manipulate them easily. They are very vulnerable. “This is when we need you parents, not when we’ve started growing baby beards.”
Most teenagers that have had sex one point or the other in their lives would have chosen differently if they had answers to the questions they couldn’t ask. Most girls will not even discuss their Menstrual Cycle with their mothers; neither will most of the boys discuss Wet Dreams or their crush with girls, with their fathers.
Because it is embarrassing for both sides. We are also referring to teenagers who feel their parents are the enemy which is a normal feeling at this age
Teri Hatcher, a celebrity, was raped by a family member when she was just a child. Her uncle raped her for several years starting when she was just five years old. Pray tell me, do we blame her school teacher for this or the media? Where was her mother or father?
Where was her teacher? She attends class everyday. She has spent a minimum of 2 months under her teacher. 2 months is enough to know your student's behaviour and know when he or she is not acting herself or himself
I say that parents are responsible for their children’s welfare and Sex Education, not the teachers or the media.
If we say that parents alone are solely responsible for their children and not the media or government, then government should stop scholarships given to children afterall, they are not responsible for them
Thank you.

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