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vonxe:If you are still referring to the name, I've told you there is no argument here. We have to a large extent, the Yoruba influence when we were under the same region. Now, the people from Igarra where this man originate from speak etuno, a language closely related to ebira. Unless you want to tell me the ebira people are Yorubas. Culturally and in terms of language, etunos are related to the Ebira people of Kogi state. |
vonxe:The time the word was coined doesn't matter. A lot of other tribes coined the name that represent their identities one day. Example: at a certain time in the world, there were no entity named English, Isrealis, Asante, etc. The fact is that, for a man from ekiti, Ijebu, Egun, ondo, oyo, Ijesha and host of others. There is one determinant despite the very strong language disparity known as "Yoruba" and it remain valid in as much as they agree to be under that umbrella. vonxe:They are edos because more than 80% of the villages there traced their history to the great Benin empire where Edo has it's origin from. They are culturally similar to the rest of the Edo nation. They have unification of language and name. (Example is, anywhere you get to in Edo state, the word Ame=water is the same for all irrespective of the language. And there are lots of these kinds of words that I won't mention now. vonxe:Now you know. It's certain that the word Edo represent all of us as the Yoruba represent everyone in Yoruba land. And even if it's created yesterday, it still doesn't nullify it's importance and existence. vonxe:Good with this. vonxe:I'm sorry, I will use Yoruba to elucidate a bit here. Yoruba is a language Ekiti has a distinct dialect Ijebu has a distinct dialect When an Ijebu man speaks his language in Ilesha, he sure will be totally unintelligible to his host. When an Egun speaks his dialect, an oyo man won't understand come. Despite this, they are under one tribe, Yoruba. So the fact that the person from Ibillo does not understand Ososo doesn't mean they can no longer be regarded as Edos. vonxe:Akoko Edos understands one another. There is a defining dialect known as the Okpameri, more than 60% of people from Akoko edo can speak and understand this. Maybe slight differences in the way they pronounce certain words. vonxe:To answer this. If you believe okuns from kogi are Yorubas even with a perfectly different language and culture, then, you should know that for this same reason, Akoko-edo are purely Edos. vonxe:What are your questions? |
vonxe:What you know: Edo people have yoruba names. Reason: Yoruba people have an overwhelming political influence in the old western region. What you know: yoruba used to be a subject for edo state students: Reason: we belong to the same region then. Western region. What you know: Ogbemudia stopped Yoruba teaching in Bendel state Reason: Because we were not Yorubas from the onset. Just that the Yorubas used their superior political power to enforce the teaching of their language and made us look like an homogeneous entity. Question you should ask: Are akoko-edo Yorubas? Answer: No Question: what tribe are akoko edo? Answer: Edo Question: Is there a tribe known as Edo Answer: Yes Question: do they have an homogeneous edo language Answer: yes and it's gradually being taught in schools Do the Edos have disparity in dialect? Answer: yes Does this disparity affect the homogeneity of the Edo people? Answer: sparingly so. Even though Edo is the most homogeneous tribe in Nigeria culturally. Remember that all other major tribes have different dialect. So, the Edos have their differences and people should not capitalise on those differences to balkanize the Edo nation. |
safarigirl:Your football analysis is inspiring. I can't believe a woman knows this much about football. I dare not debate football with you. |
I got the news from the FUTA students Facebook group Inside FUTA. The boy was said to have been stopped, harassed and his tuition taken from him. https://m.facebook.com/InsideFUTA/photos/a.487169478156736.1073741828.484925768381107/722584427948572/?type=3&source=57
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omololu2020:In your initial post, you said Akoko edo. Well, you are right that edo state hosted it twice. First one was in Benin(NIFOR) and the second one was in my village. |
omololu2020:The bold part is a big lie. That's my place and we are from Benin. My ancestors were Benin warriors Modified: just in case you doubt it, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ososo That's a link to enlighten you. I'm from the Okogbe family and up till my grandfather, my family is a warrior family. My grandfather told me that their forefathers used to fight as a Benin warrior. We migrated from Benin to idah and settled at Ajaokuta before we relocated to our present settlement due to war. Till recently, before you are consider a man, there is a festivity you must observe called the Itakpo. It involve going to Ajaokuta. |
omololu2020:https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/198255-benin-kingdom-edo-yoruba-territory-ooni-ife-adeyeye-ogunwusi.html/amp https://www.nigerianbulletin.com/threads-amp/nigeria-ranking-of-obas-in-yorubaland-by-alake-of-egbaland.237708/ https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/02/royal-ranking-the-ooni-of-ife-is-supreme-the-oluwo-oba-akanbi/amp/ |
omololu2020:Nope, not very few Yorubas. Majority of the Yorubas love laying claim to Edo people generally. Even your kings. I understand that this is due to the long time relationship we share. But then, it will be good if we accept our differences and appreciate one another's different but beautiful cultures. We might be minority today. But I can tell you from historical background that we once were regarded as powerhouse and powerful nation that could have stand alone. |
aremuforlife:If you look critically at the Benin and Yoruba history, you will have your answers starring straight at you. Since 12 century, Benin and Yorubas have got good relationship. But despite that, the two nations have their distinctive characteristics. The influence of that relationship is what you see in their ways of worship. |
verydark:In facts, a typical Akoko edo man relate with and understands an urhobo man than a Yoruba. Because we are culturally closer. Our language is even closer to urhobos than the Yorubas. |
omololu2020:Yoruba land? I won't give a total no for that. But majority of us aren't Yoruba in any way. Yorubas do give a lot of bleeps. That's why they easily categorise all of us (including the Binis) as Yorubas. Although this is a political gimmick to claim population. I remember that since the days of regional government, we distinguished ourselves as mid-western. We've been distinct ever since. You lots just don't see it |
verydark:Same way I and majority of my Akoko edo people feel. We are neither Yoruba nor Igbo. |
verydark:Lol. |
verydark:It will not matter when we keep mum and allow them to continue with the categorisation. But now, some of them know we are so not Yorubas (neither culturally nor language wise).
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verydark:Exactly my brother. You can't find a trace of yoruba in my language yet they categorise us as Yorubas. |
Countless of times I've read on here how those who have never stepped a foot in Edo state easily refer to us as Yorubas. That is very risky as it takes our identities away from us. More than 80% of the villages there traced their origin back to the Bini Empire. Yoruba is a big nation, if people keep referring to us as Yorubas, with time, we will be prone to a total extinction. I remember when I first got admission, I was to do online registration and unfortunately, I couldn't find my local government in the list of lgas of Edo, I and a group of guys have to go fight for it inclusion in the list. On Facebook, Ibillo ( a popular akoko Edo town) is regarded as being in Ondo state. These are misrepresentation. |
verydark:***laughs***. But it does matters. Because any decision we make as a people is read with the "they are yorubas" view. It's true we are close to the Yorubas(geographically), but we are also close to the Ebiras, and even closer to the rest of our Edo brothers. |
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ososo That's the history of ososo. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igarra That of the Igarra. http://www.afemaipeople.com/ojah-a-scenic-town-in-akoko-edo/ Ojah Ekpedo and the rest of Unemes have similar history. http://www.afemaipeople.com/ekpedo-community-of-akoko-edo/
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The Etunos (Igarra) are more closely related to the Ebiras than the Yorubas. The Ososos and Okpameris are more closely related to the rest of the Afemai who are more closely related with the Binis culturally than the Yorubas. |
verydark:Yes. I understand that, that's why I'm trying to correct that wrong categorization. Below is a celebration of carnival in one of the towns in Akoko-Edo. You can deduce that our language and culture differ greatly from Yorubas.
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pcgist:Thanks my brother. In akoko edo, our culture, way of life, and traditions differ greatly from the Yorubas. But people just refer to us as Yorubas anyhow here. Any little arguments that has to do with the edos, you hear people ignorantly refer to us as Yorubas. Afe-home, ame-water and other common typical edo language shows we are far more edos than Yorubas. |
A mother beats her daughter because she was drunk. Who was drunk according to the sentence above. Answer is 'she'. |
ArcFresky:I understand your point though. It's like saying Fasola did well in Lagos. But most of the projects were overpriced. As regard owing state workers, he has it very bad in that wise. As a labour man (that's where in stayed for the most part of his governorship.), he is supposed to put workers dividends first. However, he tried as regard capital expenditures. |
ArcFresky:The ultra modern markets actually make the state look neat. You don't use them so you won't know the value. Ask those who sell in the market and they will tell you they enjoy using them. The dome is another project that you might not like, but if you find such edifice in other states or even nation you will hail it as development. Okay let's talk about the heath sector. The mother and Child alone is a very good initiative as it brought good health closer to poor people at a really subsidised price. A lot of children birthed during his regime had modern treatments (including their mothers) even in the rural areas at zero cost to the parents. Transportation policy of ondo state is one of the best in the country. It's only in Akure that you will see people waiting to sit at the back even when the front seat is vacant because of the comfort. Do you realise that the school free shuttle made life easier for students in his era? What about the mega schools? The medical university? A significant amount of roads that led to rural areas were rehabilitated. This osun state you are talking about now, a lot of residence of owena( ilesha) will rather send their children to schools in igbara (a smaller rural setting than owena) or private schools than attend schools in their place because of the development in ondo schools compare to osun. Mind you, I'm not from ondo state. I only came to school here. I also relate with the poor masses than you do because of the kind of business I do. Some of the best schools in ondo state ( in terms of performance) are government owned ( I was private home tutor for variety of students). Osun can not catch up with ondo yet in terms of development. Talking about agriculture, his agricultural policies made a lot of persons millionaire (some of who I know). Mimiko is still the best Ondo state governor I know. Although, I think Ondo state have been lucky with leadership since 1999. Unlike my state (until oshiomole came in). |
policy12:Lol. I missed it o. Don't tell me that's real. |
policy12:Was this picture photoshoped? |
ArcFresky:Mimiko did wonderfully well across all sector. Health Education Agriculture Works Infrastructures. It's just painful that some of his legacies are gradually dying in this current government. |
iblawi:Lol. I didn't make the statement. My point is that whatever source the information comes from didn't give us accurate record. The picture I attached was this year's record which shows Japan who are the top ten produces less than 12 million metric tonnes (less than 11000000 metric tons). So Nigeria wouldn't have produce 15 million metric tonnes and not be among top ten producers. |
iblawi:This means Japan produces less than 8 million metric tonnes. No? BTW, below is 2018 statistic. Which still shows our government must have exaggerated their figure.
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