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EducationRe: ABU Zaria Student ConstructsLeemah Mobil Barrier Sensitive As Final Year Project by GuidoVanRossum: 8:02pm On Jan 28, 2018
It's a very good development. However, the technology is somehow risky in that if there is a car in front, and another is trying to hit you from rear, knowing that accelerating will cause another collision, the AEBS and the RCWES will be at a loggerheads as to which to be activated which can even be more damaging. So, it's an unnecessary invention. I'm looking out for inventions in which solar energy powered AI will be added to automobiles.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Is Our Comforter by GuidoVanRossum: 5:53pm On Jan 28, 2018
ollah2:
Find a young brainless boy and feed him this tales. He will be glad listening to them. Jesus died yo save the world yet the world is worst now than it used to be. That's means his death meant absolutely nothing, what made what you said facts? You read it from the story book? Lol, only a foool says "only Jesus saves. Billions of people came before him and after him while not believing in him. By your logic, they are hell bound. My grand father who didn't believe in him but took humanity first must also be in hell. Dunce statement.
It's obvious you only wanted to argue and impose your understanding on others. Firstly, you requested for bible passages that shows no one can be saved except through Christ and it was given to you. You went further to quote another verse to make the bible look contradictory but the verse end up proving that the bible is indeed perfect. Then, you resort to self aggrandisement.

Why not have an open mind to discuss what you know not. Our wisdom is foolishness before God almighty.

As regard your picture, no man can die for another's sin. But Jesus was not a man. He is the son of the living God. His only begotten. He is God and not a man because he wasn't born by a man but by God.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nairalanders Refers To The Akoko-edos As Yoruba? by GuidoVanRossum(op): 6:44pm On Jan 22, 2018
konoplyanka:
You are still on this issue. Tell your people to stop bearing yoruba names and nobody will call them Yoruba.
So because you have Jewish names makes you a Jew? Don't we have Moseses and Muhammeds in Yoruba land? Does that make them Jews or Arabians? Or because we Henry makes them English? Don't worry, we will gradually drop the Yoruba names with time and stick to our local names. These things take time.
CultureRe: A Brief Historical Origin Of Ibillo Community In Edo State by GuidoVanRossum: 6:36am On Jan 22, 2018
OlaoChi:
But it is not wrong to say Yoruba factors exist among the Akoko-Edos

This is what some have tried to deny when it is so clear
You are very correct. There is Yoruba influence. My argument is that a lot of people generally refer to the Akoko-Edo people as being Yorubas. But we are Edos and not Yorubas. Historically, culturally and behaviourally, we are 90% Edos. But some people don't even know that the Edo nation exist. They will rather refer to us by our dialectical identity. This had done so many harms to the Edo nation. So much so that our siblings in Delta state have been permanently balkanized from us after they left to Delta state. Now, some of us in the northern part of Edo, from Auchi down to Ososo are gradually been tore off the Edo nation. People like Urhobos were supposedly another dialect of Edos. I'm not talking about being under the Benin empire's colony, I'm saying they are Edos, but they've been permanently separated that they now identify as Urhobos rather than being Edos. This same style is gradually being used to separate the northern part of Edo state from the greater Edo nation. If we don't start working hard on it now, Edo nation will become an historical reference of once upon a time. So, we have to preserve the identity of the Edo nation. Some people already started going for the Esans in order to separate them from the rest of the Edo nation leaving only the binis. Imagine if there was no Yoruba, only ekitis, ondos, aworis and so on, the relevance the Yorubas enjoy today wouldn't have been possible. That's how the constant misrepresentation of the Akoko-Edos being Yorubas rather than Edos will gradually wash away the significant of the Edo nation and turn us to minority for the gain of others. Imagine if the Urhobos regard themselves as Edos, the itsekhiris being part of the Edo nation and we speak under the same umbrella, no one would have take us for granted the way they currently do.


Please overlook the grammatical error as I typed this in haste.

Have a great week ahead.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nairalanders Refers To The Akoko-edos As Yoruba? by GuidoVanRossum(op): 5:51pm On Jan 21, 2018
vonxe:
scholes0 :

Are you saying you know the people of Ibillo, Ikpeshi, Isua, Ogori ,Imeri, Lamkpeshe, Ososo, Etc more than the people themselves?
If you have been through the area, you will know that these people of Northern Edo/North-East Ondo (AKOKO/AKOKO-EDO) are Yoruba, with some Edo influences.
Each group in Akoko and surrounding areas have their own language, one town can have one language/local dialect, but the general language and predominant culture in the area is Yoruba.


ezanafe :

You are some how right that Aiyegunle which is part of Akoko Edo speaks Yoruba dialect. In other words they still have their own self developed and spoken dialect which is different from Yoruba


Ibillo is part of the greater Akokoland, although politically they are Akoko-Edos. Yoruba culture is predominant in this area and a dialect of Yoruba language is officially spoken in this area. So, it is logical to categorise them as part of the Yoruba commonwealth.


Sir, Ibillo's official spoken language is Ibillo. But truly Yoruba culture is predominant in the area. Thanks

scholes0:
True, The local dialect spoken in Ibilo town is Ibilo (Okpameri) - but It is gradually fading away to Yoruba influences. Many of the Younger generation cant speak it anymore.
How can we preserve the local dialects of the area?

redoil:


one thing i am very sure of is that the people of akoko edo speaks more than 20 languages and which Yoruba is not part off. The fact that the people of akoko edo have decided to assimilate and associate with Yoruba people, culture, and language for easy access to trade with them does not make akoko edo people more or less originated from Yoruba land.

scholes0:


The people of Akoko Edo are very fragmented, just like the peoples of Akoko proper. Almost every town have different languages and dialects, but speak Yoruba as a general language. And it is not for trading with Yoruba people but rather, trading and relating with themselves..
Between Isua Akoko (Ondo state) and Ogori Magongo (Kogi state) for example, you might come across up to 20 languages and dialects, how else are they supposed to communicate with one another.
Culturallly speaking the area is at the boundry where yoruba-Edo and Ebira meet, and the people theselves are a mixture of all three, with Yoruba ancestry being dominant.

I asked a friend ( who always claim to be a yoruba) who asked his father, the response was:

Akoko-Edo is a nodal area with different languages but edo culture (not language) is dominant. there is also the presence of some ebiras. The presence of Yoruba language and culture is due to proximity to akokos and influx of Yoruba businessmen. Although some areas( which was not stated) claim to have their ancestral origin from Ife.

Thanks GuidoVanRossum
I have my own opinion of Akoko-Edos
Bye
Thanks for your time. It's great discussing with you. As for your last statement, I hope this opinion of yours does not generalise the akoko edos as Yoruba? We have some Yorubas in the lga but majority are of edo origin with heavy edo influence.

As for the bold, I am an Ososo and I'm telling you about my people. I have renewed the historical research of the origin of Ibillo people because of this topic. I will drop my findings when we (I and an history graduate from Ibillo) are through. Happy Sunday
RomanceThe Possibility Of Finding Love As A Hustler. by GuidoVanRossum(op): 11:23pm On Jan 17, 2018
By and large, we've been exposed to a world where material possessions seems to be the single most important index of success. It's common to see how relationships that started with great potentials and great dreams crash due to delay or possible inevitability of achieving these future dreams. A lot of girls want to live in the now, not in the possibilities in tomorrow.

I won't type my story here. I just want to ask those who have now made it if they ever found love while they were still struggling to buy themselves a decent shoe. Was that one love supportive? How much did the relationship change after God answered your prayers and the future you see becomes your today's reality?

I know it's common for people to say forget women and search for money first. While it's a great advice, sometimes we become so uninspired due to the stress of the hustle, at that point where it all seems the delay in getting the hustle to pay is weighing heavily, we need someone who believed in us, who will never give up on us to urge us on. That support can serve as a catalyst to hasting the rate of achieving our goals.

Finally, is it really possible to find true and enduring love while struggling to make a lift from the financially 'incapacitive' zone to a financially buoyant one?
CelebritiesRe: Adekunle Gold Signs Deal With Unity Bank (Photos) by GuidoVanRossum: 9:05pm On Jan 15, 2018
Unity bank has gotten one more customer. I will go and open my account tomorrow.
CareerRe: Top 20 Nigerian CEOs And The Courses They Studied In School by GuidoVanRossum: 4:05pm On Jan 15, 2018
luckygirl02:
Even though most of us are jobless now and born without silver spoon, we will still get there someday. The motto is "never give up"
You can say that again ma
PoliticsRe: Benue Youths And Police In A Shootout In Makurdi by GuidoVanRossum: 3:36pm On Jan 15, 2018
Lucky Dube Lyrics
"Life In The Movies"

Warning, this is the chief of police speaking,
Do not steal Police hate competition.

Where we gonna run
Where we gonna hide
You've got the right to remain silent,
But forever they were brought here to protect us
They were brought here not to hurt
But now they hurt us everyday
You see, police have joined forces
With criminals
Don't steal, police hate competition.
We can't sit down - something must be done

Catching the bad guys in real life
Is not as easy as it is in the movies.

We see James Bond (007)
Eddie Murphy (Beverly Hills Cop)
Chasing bad guys all the time

But police in real life
Have joined forces with criminals
Don't steal, police hate competition
We can't sit down - something must be done.

Our life has got to be like
Life in the movies
Where the good guys always
Win in the end

[Chorus]

Life in the movies

How can we expect them
To serve and protect
The community, if they themselves
Are the bad guys
Police have joined forces with criminals
Stand up and fight, no one is safe
CrimeRe: Makurdi Riots: Man Who Was Betrayed By His Muslim Friend. See Photos by GuidoVanRossum: 8:39pm On Jan 14, 2018
Isahalbash:
In terms of religion; the north is something else, it's hard to find a crises related to religion in d south especially southwest...it wud either be tribal or cultist.

I don't tink all muslims support most of those unnecessary killings of people from other faith.. just like d one that happened in Kano some years ago, though they are people who support it openly nd justified without any evidence from d Quran. most of dis tins are based on sectarian ideology cos they are some muslims who tink they are d genuine ones others are fake. Check d shiites and soldiers clashed, you wud found out that many Muslims from a particular sect justified their killings.. I, myself have been called a manage muslim before. He said; "kai musulunci ka dama- dama ne, dan kafi yan shi'a." meaning- your Islam is manageable, because you're better than the shiites.



Islam in d north is exclusive to a particular sect d odas are fake according to themgrin

Boko haram is also killing us.

herdsmen is not religion inclined, it's based on purely business.. it happened recently in my state.
You understand what's happening in the north. Are you a northerner?
CrimeRe: Makurdi Riots: Man Who Was Betrayed By His Muslim Friend. See Photos by GuidoVanRossum: 7:17pm On Jan 14, 2018
Isahalbash:
The north is volatile, any riot or crises is mostly based on religion nd ethnicity. Like in kd now, those from d northern nd southern part don't like themselves and they are also people who are not from that place that always blow d fire so that they will continue killing and hating themselves.. when d heat don consume most of the people, dem go just carry their loads and flee to where they come from in fact, some even they Nairaland.




They are just like the herdsmen, when they wrecked a community, they would just flee to anoda destination.
You are right. For a riot to have a successful campaign in the north, it will be tied to religion. And some of the people who wreak havoc are usually imported from another state. Like in the case of kd and jos crisis. This is why it became convenient for media reportage to easily add the religion tag to some bunch of thugs who causes problem in the north. You can't blame us (southerners) for believing that these things are caused by religion fanatics since they always justify their action with religion.



Let me ask you some questions if you will be sincere enough to answer them.


How many occasions have you heard Christian youths killing an Imam that's preaching in the south?

Have you heard of Muslim youth killing a preacher in the north?

I'm not saying there is no killing in the south, I'm saying it is usually not attached to religion in the south. So you can't blame the press for adding the Muslim tag. I'm sorry.
CrimeRe: Makurdi Riots: Man Who Was Betrayed By His Muslim Friend. See Photos by GuidoVanRossum: 6:46pm On Jan 14, 2018
Isahalbash:
Meaning boko haram and herdsmen too dey do riotgrin



Nothing concern tribal crises and religion. So d yoruba nd hausa crises for lag nah btw yoruba Christians and hausa muslims?



When there's crises in d south, whether you are a north muslim or christian, you wud be killed even if you are from Nijar, Chad, cameroun, malí even Ghana as far as u be Aboki they wud kill you.. They are good people who hide their friends in order not to be killed both in d south nd north.
Lol @ bold.

See en, if we argue along this line, we will end up making it seem a normal thing. Truth is, when there is riot in the south, friends don't snitch on their friends. In facts, some people who don't know you will hide you to save you from lynching. This is not very common in the north though. I stand to be corrected, a northern easily snitch up on his friend than a southerner will do in time of crisis.
CrimeRe: Makurdi Riots: Man Who Was Betrayed By His Muslim Friend. See Photos by GuidoVanRossum: 6:26pm On Jan 14, 2018
Isahalbash:
Then it's vice versa if what you typed is even true.. Same thing happened at idi Araba during d Hausa/ Yoruba 1999 crises. The Sarki of idi araba brother was killed by his best friend( a Yoruba) at d outskirt of idi araba.


The same time one betrays his friend at the same time another is helping his friend. You are making it seems as if southerners don't kill their friends in time of crises.



I'm from the core north( Jigawa state precisely), they was no time any southerner has ever been killed from my L.G.A during any tribal crises.
You may be right. But you know, we talk because of what we've seen. It's not my fault. After the experience in Kano, even though I was still young then, I dread going to the North
CrimeRe: Makurdi Riots: Man Who Was Betrayed By His Muslim Friend. See Photos by GuidoVanRossum: 6:13pm On Jan 14, 2018
Wfaluse:
So if I follow your line of thought above, it implies the hausas in those cases are Muslims? When riots or crisis breaks out in the south, it is not Christians but if it happens in the north, it is the faithfuls of Islam? You don't have thugs in the north like you have in the south right?it is only in the south that miscreants are responsible for crisis but Islamic fundamentalists (like Punch would put it) are the agents in the North. Hypocrisy. Sheer hypocrisy osi
Hey Bro, I know you feel this way because you know it's wrong. However, it's not a lie that similar things like these happens up north during crisis. Now, as for religion, watch this, any riot and killings in the south or by Christian is never justified by religion. But in the North, and other Muslim populated area, they justify their action with religion. A christian thug who killed don't say they do so for Christ or Christianity. But when boko guys bomb, they try to justify it with religion, when thugs up north riot during the sharia era, they support their action with their region believe. So, you can't blame others for saying they kill because of their religion. It's not our fault. It's what they make us believe.
Maybe you moslems should do more of denying those thugs so they won't stain your religion with there atrocities.
CrimeRe: Makurdi Riots: Man Who Was Betrayed By His Muslim Friend. See Photos by GuidoVanRossum: 5:43pm On Jan 14, 2018
Wfaluse:
What can be more myopic! So you once lived in the north and you were nearly killed? Or your loved one was killed ? And that is their game plan. Once it is death, atrocities,evil, tie it to Islam. There is hardly any Muslim that doesn't know this game plan in this age
Bros forget this. It's not about demonising Islam. It's the plain fact. In the North, hausas easily snitch on their friends.

I was discussing with a highly devoted muslim friend some days ago at shasha, suddenly a yoruba man and and hausa man were fighting, any hausa that gets there don't ask for what happened, they just started beating the yoruba man. The yoruba people there (especially the women) were doing everything possible to separate them first but the hausas will just come and join with their brother. So I asked him if that was what Islam teaches and he started narrating an interesting story to me on how quran condemns such act. He then went further to say the hausas generally harbour hatred towards southerner especially in time of crisis and even in the mosque. That in their mosque, no matter how well versed the yoruba man is, he is not allowed to lead their prayers.

I have witnessed first hand betrayal by an hausa man during a crisis in Kano. The woman who was killed was a friend to the hausa man (as in they shag one another). God saved me and mum that day en, I was still young then and I went with mum to sell kola nut. Well, this is not about demonising any religion, hausas moslems easily sell out their friends in time of crisis. Take it or leave it.
CrimeRe: Makurdi Riots: Man Who Was Betrayed By His Muslim Friend. See Photos by GuidoVanRossum: 5:26pm On Jan 14, 2018
I don't know why people repeat mistakes that have been made over and over again but expect different result. We've seen, heard and witness issues like these in the past. Whenever there is riot in the north, hausas always snitch on the people that trust them. During the Kaduna riot, the Bauchi killings of coppers, it was evident. A lot of reports like this even by some hausas who are Christians were in the news for us to read and learn. A particular hausa guy was killed in the Bauchi crisis because he looked like a southerner and was defending a southerner. These things happened. It is better to face the rioters than go hide with an hausa friend in time of crisis.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nairalanders Refers To The Akoko-edos As Yoruba? by GuidoVanRossum(op): 2:50pm On Jan 13, 2018
vonxe:
I don't know how these turned to yoruba-edo war, a never ending war cos they are neighbours and brothers.

anyway

the Akoko-Edos in the house do you agree with ezanfe and scholes0 in this https://www.nairaland.com/2097102/brief-historical-origin-ibillo-community/1
I'm sorry this has turned to unintended tribal war. I made a post on this thread, maybe you've read it. I and Redoil are from the same village. You can see that his argument with mine tallied. Scholes and ezanafe who are from Ibillo have had their history told to them by foreigners. However, I must state that the yoruba influence in Ibillo's history is very high. Their streets have yoruba names. However, their language, culture, and style of worships is so Edo. In Ibillo, almost all streets have a shrine house and they will be the first to wake you with their bells every morning (uloku agbe), this is similar to the Benin way of worship which I've never come across in any Yoruba land. Their dialect is heavily derived from the Benin. When they speak, nobody will tell you before you know this language is edo, even though we don't really understand each other deeply, the way they speak is understandable to the rest of the edos. Let me give you this expo, if someone is speaking Esan beside me, I will immediately know it's Esan and if I listen attentively, I will be able to pick one or two things and arrive at a possible conclusion on what he is saying. Same with the okpameri language, same with the umas. Ososo and Okpella, jatuu and auchi can pick one or two things that each is saying. Truth is, edo language is real, but our fathers have deprived us of opportunity to have a universal edo language by allowing the Yorubas to enforce their language on us during the regional government era. The history Ezanafe and Scholes are depending on is a recent not well articulated history, a percentage of Ibillo people agreed that they originate from Benin, why another said they are from Ife (these other groups also think Benins are from Ife anyway). Now, in Akoko Edo, Ibillo language is highly similar to about 22 other villages known as the Okpameris and a lot of these other villages don't agree to the fact that they are Yorubas.
CelebritiesRe: 6 African Music Legends You Should Know by GuidoVanRossum: 12:12pm On Jan 13, 2018
neoapocalypse:
I've been listening to Lucky Dube , Peter Tosh , Jimmy Cliff and other reggae musicians since the 80's and I still stand by my opinion , Lucky Dude wouldn't be in my top 6 ( even 10 ) legends of Africa. There are others who I'd consider ahead of him , the likes of Hugh Masekela , Mariam Makeba , Mory Kante , Fela , Salif Keita and Youssou N'Dour

Modified : And of course Manu Dibango
Well, we all like what we like. Dube for me is the unsung hero of reggae and my African best ever.
When I listen to songs like 'Teach the world", "Micky mouse", "money money money", "house of exile", "reap what you sow", "Not easy", "Affirmative action", etc. I feel so excited he was born into this world a musician.
CelebritiesRe: Throwback Photo Of Nabila Fash, Oritsefemi's Wife by GuidoVanRossum: 5:38pm On Jan 12, 2018
zoraro:
Are you serious. You don't know what uses mean angry.
It should be "use" bro.
CelebritiesRe: 6 African Music Legends You Should Know by GuidoVanRossum: 4:09pm On Jan 12, 2018
neoapocalypse:
That is your opinion , if I were to pick 6 legends in Africa , Lucky Dube wouldn't be on the list
Then you have not listen to Lucky.
Dube is my greatest African musician.
CultureRe: A Brief Historical Origin Of Ibillo Community In Edo State by GuidoVanRossum: 3:42pm On Jan 12, 2018
ezanafe:
No need for argument my people. I am from Ibillo and in fact i live there currently so i know my ORIGIN, those who don't know theirs should please find out and stop misconceptions on this thread. #I KNOW MY ORIGIN.
I've been trying to see if I know you. Where in Ibillo do you live? If you live in Ibillo, I'm sure you will know me or at least one of my younger brother.
CultureRe: A Brief Historical Origin Of Ibillo Community In Edo State by GuidoVanRossum: 3:35pm On Jan 12, 2018
Someone just brought my attention to this thread. Redoil, I salute your courage. The people of Ibillo are a bit confused about their origin. Yes, a part of them may be from Yoruba land cos even some of their street have Yoruba name. I've worked with a student of history on a project to establish the history. One time they say the name was derived when their ancestors came from Ife and decided to take a rest after hunting and farming around. So it was named "Ibi la lo"
(this is where we use), another time they say they came alongside the akoko people of ondo state and the name Ibillo is the name of their ancestor (Ilo) so they decided to call the place Ibi Ilo (The place of Ilo). Truthfully, this area are late comers to education and so their history was handed to them by the Yorubas whom they've been so used to.

I see a lot of lies here that the lingua franca of Akoko-Edo is Yoruba. This is so untrue. Maybe before I was born (early 80s), since I begin to know myself, an average Akoko-Edo person speaks pidgin as lingua franca. In facts, a lot don't even understand yoruba language (the younger generation) except those of us who have lived in Yoruba land.

If you noticed, the Yorubas tried to rewrite our history (Ososo) but it failed because we already have our history handed to us by our fore fathers.




PS: I'm from the Okogbe family in Udurhevbo.



Cc ezanafe.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nairalanders Refers To The Akoko-edos As Yoruba? by GuidoVanRossum(op): 11:08pm On Jan 11, 2018
ThatKING:
why is the aiyegunle there ?? What's the meaning of aiyegunle ?
I thought I said we have a small percentage of Yorubas. Funny thing is, even those in Ayeigunle claimed they are not Yoruba. My best friend is from Ayeigunle, we went to the same unis and he couldn't even speak yoruba. I have to defend him always when they start "yabbing' him cos his surname is Yoruba and yet he couldn't speak or even understand the language. Mind you he grew up in his village where they speak Okpameri and he can speak fluently his dialect.
PoliticsRe: Dr Aroms Aigbehi Calls For Boycott Of Cow Meat. by GuidoVanRossum: 8:47pm On Jan 11, 2018
oluwaahmed:
Ur explanation of boycotting oil bcoz of Ijaw blowing up pipelines is totally dft. Do u know what happend when a journalist discovered dat hands & feet were being chopped off diamond miners in seirria Leone? Der was a huge out cry to the extent pple stopped wearing diamond jewelry bcoz dey were labelled "blood diamonds". Musicians sang about it, intact it was such a huge deal dat investigations were carried out and companies found culpable were sanctioned. If there were protests on the streets of Abuja Dis issue would be solved in no time. Do ur part #boycott beef, it won't kill u like others it has killed in benue
You are still misunderstanding this Bro. Diamond isn't a basic necessity. Meat is. The masses don't wear diamond. But everybody eats. Diamond has other alternative both in class and kind. Beef don't have other alternative in price and availability. It's not a competition sir. I'm stating what I observed.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nairalanders Refers To The Akoko-edos As Yoruba? by GuidoVanRossum(op): 8:05pm On Jan 11, 2018
vonxe:
some thing about these topics is that sometimes emotions are involved. for your information am not a yoruba.

Ekiti dialect and Akure is the same.
why would I lie about a language that is not mine?
I spent the first part of yrs in idanre
I spent few yrs in Akure where I have a lot of ondo friends
I spent several years in Ekiti
I stayed few yrs shuttling akungba to ikare
I can speak idanre and Ekiti
ondo words are 70% or more of Yoruba words
if you had said owo it is still arguable

Anyway I believe these should be left to the academia who studied Yoruba language in school


your points about akoko edos are noted.

there is a nairalander from akoko edo who always claim to be Yoruba markfemi2
when I was in school I have several classmates who said same. it is left to you to believe me

ka WA -- WA means come
MU ko- Mu fun
You are the one using emotion here now sir. I just asked a neighbour who is from Ekiti (igbara-odo) and she confirmed they don't speak the same language even though they have some similarities. She even said there are slight variations in the way Ekiti people speak I.e, Ikole and Ikere have slight variation in language. Anyway, I don't understand either language.

I'm from Akoko-Edo, I speak fluent yoruba. In facts, I speak and write yoruba. I was already reading yoruba since I was in primary 3. But when people from Ekiti speaks, or Ilara or Akure, I usually don't understand them. Still they are same Yorubas.

Secondly, I have sincerely not met a person from Akoko-Edo claiming to be yoruba. My family (nuclear) speaks yoruba. When we are at home and we don't want people to hear us, we speak yoruba. Even in Ibillo where we used to stay, some that don't know us well will cal us ibo yoruba (yoruba people).
PoliticsRe: Dr Aroms Aigbehi Calls For Boycott Of Cow Meat. by GuidoVanRossum: 7:01pm On Jan 11, 2018
whirlwind7:
We can see those who will always give reasons why something worthwhile won't work. Will rather complain and moan, and can't even come up with a half assed idea of his own.
Are these lame excuses you made worth the life of any human being?
Don't think that way my brother. Before taking any action as a man, ask your self the effect of your action on the people around you. Instead of boycotting cow because we want to punish Fulanis, how about we hold our leaders responsible. We all pay tax. We then put them there to use our money to provide security for us. The logic that because some Fulanis are killing our brothers, then we should boycott their meat is similar to arguing that Ijaws have been blowing up pipes, so let's stop using their motor spirit (petrol). It might be convenient to you. (Just maybe your business doest involve transportation). But it may not be possible for others. Just as Petrol is a basic necessity, meat is a basic need and the cheapest source still remain beef. I'm not making excuses, I telling how not feasible it is to actually boycott beef. By the way, it's also not a solution to the problem.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nairalanders Refers To The Akoko-edos As Yoruba? by GuidoVanRossum(op): 6:46pm On Jan 11, 2018
vonxe:
1. Ekiti and Akure dialect is same
2. apart from isua I have not been to, I can hear ikare, idanre, Ekiti (almost same with ijesas), okun, egba, ijebu, ondo, owo because I have stayed with them. The funny about dialect is that it is only the construction of the sentences and twisting of tongues that differs. the words are 70% similar. e.g sit down may translated to down sit
3.Why do some akoko edos now claim yoruba? although I know of some ilajes that claim itsekiri due to economic reasons but the akoko edos own is different
Akure and ekiti have different language please. I currently live in Akure and that's where I schooled. I grew up in Kwara (Jebba) and so I speak and understand the general Yoruba perfectly. But I can't pick a thing when ekiti people speak. Same about Akure.

You said the construction is the difference? Then Ondo shouldn't be yorubas cos they speak something very different. Same as the rest (ekiti) inclusive. Let me cite some example with a few Ondo I could manage.

Giyan= so fun
Oforfi= Owipe, Onipe.
Kawa=Maabo
Egin=Egbon
Shoon/sun= Yagbe
Mu ko= fun (give him/her)
Etc

Please be sincere when you want to lay out your point. We aren't in competition for who wins or not


As for your last question, no person from Akoko Edo claims to be Yoruba. I have never met such person before.
Music/RadioRe: Paul Okoye Rudeboy - "Nkenji Keke" (Video) by GuidoVanRossum: 5:08pm On Jan 11, 2018
I've been waiting for this. This is actually lit. Beautiful video and beautiful song.

Liking Peter does not mean you should hate Paul. Vice versa.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Nairalanders Refers To The Akoko-edos As Yoruba? by GuidoVanRossum(op): 4:35pm On Jan 11, 2018
vonxe:
To pple reading these let me make some clarifications to prevent distortion
1. Eguns are not Yorubas
2. okuns ( to an extent oworos) does not have any different culture or language it is still a dialect of Yoruba language . I stayed there for 2 yrs
3.if an ijebu man speaks in ilesha, ilesha pple will definitely pick 40% of his words fact! I stayed, for several years, in Ekiti that has similar dialect with ijesas. ijebu language is intelligible to an extent.
4. I am not saying akoko edos are Yorubas but a lot of pple I met who are from there claim they are Yorubas.

without digressing

1. why are they referred to as akokos? when the akokos in ondo are saying they Yorubas, so what is the difference?
2. are there parts of akoko edos that claim they are Yorubas or are there Yorubas in akoko edo?
3. according to you, the remaining 40% who doesn't understand okpameri do they have different languages?
4. how do they communicate to other akoko edos during economic activities? is it true that the lingual franca is Yoruba?
When I was in school, I stayed at Ilara mokin. My course mate who lives in the same compound with me does not understand a word from the dialect of the people there.

You will be lying if you say as a yoruba man, you understand the language of Isua, Ondo, Akure, Ekiti, Ijesha, Ikare to mention but a few.

What you don't know is that the Akoko as used is simply to name the local government. It's not used in the same context as the Yoruba's Akokos which describes their entity. There is a proposition to divide the local government into 3 as I speak with you and none will carry the Akoko tag again. These proposed lga (okhunugbe, okpameri and Etuno) defined the people in this area. When the local government was to be created, the option for the name Akoko-Edo came as a result of searching for a unified name for these 3 groups. The proximity to the Akoko people prompted the use. Akoko you see was born out of a need to represent a local government area.



Modified: what I'm saying is this, a person from oka, Ikare, arigidi will tell you I'm an Akoko man. It's not the same here. We only use the Akoko when we need to describe the local government we stem from in edo state. No Edo person will tell you I'm an Akoko man. I will say I'm an Ososo, the person from Ibillo, Ojah, Imoga, Epkesa will tell you they are okpameri, the person from Ekpedo, uneme-nekhua, uneme-osu etc will tell you they are uneme. We have the Etunos, we have the umas. But we don't have the akokos.


This is not the same with the akokos from ondo state.

I don't know if you understand my point.


Modified: lingua franca for now is largely pidgin. Majority of the people in Akoko edo don't even understand yoruba. Although our fathers do as they were taught in schools in their days. When Yorubas come to our area to write waec those days, the way they speak amazes the people. You know the feelings when you hear a group of people speak a language you do not understand. You will see boys mimicking them (trying to make jest of the language).
PoliticsRe: Dr Aroms Aigbehi Calls For Boycott Of Cow Meat. by GuidoVanRossum: 4:06pm On Jan 11, 2018
The question is, what other kind of meat does the common man depends on. Cow meat is still the cheapest and the easiest meat to get around. Boycotting it will have economic effect on the fulani bourgeois and their entire clan. But it will also cause meat scarcity. Other available options will be in high demand such that it will be out of reach for the common man.

More so, it will create a kind of "us against them" mentality up north and if they decide to boycott our own products, the country will be in avoidable economic crisis which we won't all like.

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