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It's a very good development. However, the technology is somehow risky in that if there is a car in front, and another is trying to hit you from rear, knowing that accelerating will cause another collision, the AEBS and the RCWES will be at a loggerheads as to which to be activated which can even be more damaging. So, it's an unnecessary invention. I'm looking out for inventions in which solar energy powered AI will be added to automobiles. |
ollah2:It's obvious you only wanted to argue and impose your understanding on others. Firstly, you requested for bible passages that shows no one can be saved except through Christ and it was given to you. You went further to quote another verse to make the bible look contradictory but the verse end up proving that the bible is indeed perfect. Then, you resort to self aggrandisement. Why not have an open mind to discuss what you know not. Our wisdom is foolishness before God almighty. As regard your picture, no man can die for another's sin. But Jesus was not a man. He is the son of the living God. His only begotten. He is God and not a man because he wasn't born by a man but by God. |
konoplyanka:So because you have Jewish names makes you a Jew? Don't we have Moseses and Muhammeds in Yoruba land? Does that make them Jews or Arabians? Or because we Henry makes them English? Don't worry, we will gradually drop the Yoruba names with time and stick to our local names. These things take time. |
OlaoChi:You are very correct. There is Yoruba influence. My argument is that a lot of people generally refer to the Akoko-Edo people as being Yorubas. But we are Edos and not Yorubas. Historically, culturally and behaviourally, we are 90% Edos. But some people don't even know that the Edo nation exist. They will rather refer to us by our dialectical identity. This had done so many harms to the Edo nation. So much so that our siblings in Delta state have been permanently balkanized from us after they left to Delta state. Now, some of us in the northern part of Edo, from Auchi down to Ososo are gradually been tore off the Edo nation. People like Urhobos were supposedly another dialect of Edos. I'm not talking about being under the Benin empire's colony, I'm saying they are Edos, but they've been permanently separated that they now identify as Urhobos rather than being Edos. This same style is gradually being used to separate the northern part of Edo state from the greater Edo nation. If we don't start working hard on it now, Edo nation will become an historical reference of once upon a time. So, we have to preserve the identity of the Edo nation. Some people already started going for the Esans in order to separate them from the rest of the Edo nation leaving only the binis. Imagine if there was no Yoruba, only ekitis, ondos, aworis and so on, the relevance the Yorubas enjoy today wouldn't have been possible. That's how the constant misrepresentation of the Akoko-Edos being Yorubas rather than Edos will gradually wash away the significant of the Edo nation and turn us to minority for the gain of others. Imagine if the Urhobos regard themselves as Edos, the itsekhiris being part of the Edo nation and we speak under the same umbrella, no one would have take us for granted the way they currently do. Please overlook the grammatical error as I typed this in haste. Have a great week ahead. |
vonxe:Thanks for your time. It's great discussing with you. As for your last statement, I hope this opinion of yours does not generalise the akoko edos as Yoruba? We have some Yorubas in the lga but majority are of edo origin with heavy edo influence. As for the bold, I am an Ososo and I'm telling you about my people. I have renewed the historical research of the origin of Ibillo people because of this topic. I will drop my findings when we (I and an history graduate from Ibillo) are through. Happy Sunday |
By and large, we've been exposed to a world where material possessions seems to be the single most important index of success. It's common to see how relationships that started with great potentials and great dreams crash due to delay or possible inevitability of achieving these future dreams. A lot of girls want to live in the now, not in the possibilities in tomorrow. I won't type my story here. I just want to ask those who have now made it if they ever found love while they were still struggling to buy themselves a decent shoe. Was that one love supportive? How much did the relationship change after God answered your prayers and the future you see becomes your today's reality? I know it's common for people to say forget women and search for money first. While it's a great advice, sometimes we become so uninspired due to the stress of the hustle, at that point where it all seems the delay in getting the hustle to pay is weighing heavily, we need someone who believed in us, who will never give up on us to urge us on. That support can serve as a catalyst to hasting the rate of achieving our goals. Finally, is it really possible to find true and enduring love while struggling to make a lift from the financially 'incapacitive' zone to a financially buoyant one? |
Unity bank has gotten one more customer. I will go and open my account tomorrow. |
luckygirl02:You can say that again ma |
Lucky Dube Lyrics "Life In The Movies" Warning, this is the chief of police speaking, Do not steal Police hate competition. Where we gonna run Where we gonna hide You've got the right to remain silent, But forever they were brought here to protect us They were brought here not to hurt But now they hurt us everyday You see, police have joined forces With criminals Don't steal, police hate competition. We can't sit down - something must be done Catching the bad guys in real life Is not as easy as it is in the movies. We see James Bond (007) Eddie Murphy (Beverly Hills Cop) Chasing bad guys all the time But police in real life Have joined forces with criminals Don't steal, police hate competition We can't sit down - something must be done. Our life has got to be like Life in the movies Where the good guys always Win in the end [Chorus] Life in the movies How can we expect them To serve and protect The community, if they themselves Are the bad guys Police have joined forces with criminals Stand up and fight, no one is safe |
Isahalbash:You understand what's happening in the north. Are you a northerner? |
Isahalbash:You are right. For a riot to have a successful campaign in the north, it will be tied to religion. And some of the people who wreak havoc are usually imported from another state. Like in the case of kd and jos crisis. This is why it became convenient for media reportage to easily add the religion tag to some bunch of thugs who causes problem in the north. You can't blame us (southerners) for believing that these things are caused by religion fanatics since they always justify their action with religion. Let me ask you some questions if you will be sincere enough to answer them. How many occasions have you heard Christian youths killing an Imam that's preaching in the south? Have you heard of Muslim youth killing a preacher in the north? I'm not saying there is no killing in the south, I'm saying it is usually not attached to religion in the south. So you can't blame the press for adding the Muslim tag. I'm sorry. |
Isahalbash:Lol @ bold. See en, if we argue along this line, we will end up making it seem a normal thing. Truth is, when there is riot in the south, friends don't snitch on their friends. In facts, some people who don't know you will hide you to save you from lynching. This is not very common in the north though. I stand to be corrected, a northern easily snitch up on his friend than a southerner will do in time of crisis. |
Isahalbash:You may be right. But you know, we talk because of what we've seen. It's not my fault. After the experience in Kano, even though I was still young then, I dread going to the North |
Wfaluse:Hey Bro, I know you feel this way because you know it's wrong. However, it's not a lie that similar things like these happens up north during crisis. Now, as for religion, watch this, any riot and killings in the south or by Christian is never justified by religion. But in the North, and other Muslim populated area, they justify their action with religion. A christian thug who killed don't say they do so for Christ or Christianity. But when boko guys bomb, they try to justify it with religion, when thugs up north riot during the sharia era, they support their action with their region believe. So, you can't blame others for saying they kill because of their religion. It's not our fault. It's what they make us believe. Maybe you moslems should do more of denying those thugs so they won't stain your religion with there atrocities. |
Wfaluse:Bros forget this. It's not about demonising Islam. It's the plain fact. In the North, hausas easily snitch on their friends. I was discussing with a highly devoted muslim friend some days ago at shasha, suddenly a yoruba man and and hausa man were fighting, any hausa that gets there don't ask for what happened, they just started beating the yoruba man. The yoruba people there (especially the women) were doing everything possible to separate them first but the hausas will just come and join with their brother. So I asked him if that was what Islam teaches and he started narrating an interesting story to me on how quran condemns such act. He then went further to say the hausas generally harbour hatred towards southerner especially in time of crisis and even in the mosque. That in their mosque, no matter how well versed the yoruba man is, he is not allowed to lead their prayers. I have witnessed first hand betrayal by an hausa man during a crisis in Kano. The woman who was killed was a friend to the hausa man (as in they shag one another). God saved me and mum that day en, I was still young then and I went with mum to sell kola nut. Well, this is not about demonising any religion, hausas moslems easily sell out their friends in time of crisis. Take it or leave it. |
I don't know why people repeat mistakes that have been made over and over again but expect different result. We've seen, heard and witness issues like these in the past. Whenever there is riot in the north, hausas always snitch on the people that trust them. During the Kaduna riot, the Bauchi killings of coppers, it was evident. A lot of reports like this even by some hausas who are Christians were in the news for us to read and learn. A particular hausa guy was killed in the Bauchi crisis because he looked like a southerner and was defending a southerner. These things happened. It is better to face the rioters than go hide with an hausa friend in time of crisis. |
vonxe:I'm sorry this has turned to unintended tribal war. I made a post on this thread, maybe you've read it. I and Redoil are from the same village. You can see that his argument with mine tallied. Scholes and ezanafe who are from Ibillo have had their history told to them by foreigners. However, I must state that the yoruba influence in Ibillo's history is very high. Their streets have yoruba names. However, their language, culture, and style of worships is so Edo. In Ibillo, almost all streets have a shrine house and they will be the first to wake you with their bells every morning (uloku agbe), this is similar to the Benin way of worship which I've never come across in any Yoruba land. Their dialect is heavily derived from the Benin. When they speak, nobody will tell you before you know this language is edo, even though we don't really understand each other deeply, the way they speak is understandable to the rest of the edos. Let me give you this expo, if someone is speaking Esan beside me, I will immediately know it's Esan and if I listen attentively, I will be able to pick one or two things and arrive at a possible conclusion on what he is saying. Same with the okpameri language, same with the umas. Ososo and Okpella, jatuu and auchi can pick one or two things that each is saying. Truth is, edo language is real, but our fathers have deprived us of opportunity to have a universal edo language by allowing the Yorubas to enforce their language on us during the regional government era. The history Ezanafe and Scholes are depending on is a recent not well articulated history, a percentage of Ibillo people agreed that they originate from Benin, why another said they are from Ife (these other groups also think Benins are from Ife anyway). Now, in Akoko Edo, Ibillo language is highly similar to about 22 other villages known as the Okpameris and a lot of these other villages don't agree to the fact that they are Yorubas. |
neoapocalypse:Well, we all like what we like. Dube for me is the unsung hero of reggae and my African best ever. When I listen to songs like 'Teach the world", "Micky mouse", "money money money", "house of exile", "reap what you sow", "Not easy", "Affirmative action", etc. I feel so excited he was born into this world a musician. |
zoraro:It should be "use" bro. |
neoapocalypse:Then you have not listen to Lucky. Dube is my greatest African musician. |
ezanafe:I've been trying to see if I know you. Where in Ibillo do you live? If you live in Ibillo, I'm sure you will know me or at least one of my younger brother. |
Someone just brought my attention to this thread. Redoil, I salute your courage. The people of Ibillo are a bit confused about their origin. Yes, a part of them may be from Yoruba land cos even some of their street have Yoruba name. I've worked with a student of history on a project to establish the history. One time they say the name was derived when their ancestors came from Ife and decided to take a rest after hunting and farming around. So it was named "Ibi la lo" (this is where we use), another time they say they came alongside the akoko people of ondo state and the name Ibillo is the name of their ancestor (Ilo) so they decided to call the place Ibi Ilo (The place of Ilo). Truthfully, this area are late comers to education and so their history was handed to them by the Yorubas whom they've been so used to. I see a lot of lies here that the lingua franca of Akoko-Edo is Yoruba. This is so untrue. Maybe before I was born (early 80s), since I begin to know myself, an average Akoko-Edo person speaks pidgin as lingua franca. In facts, a lot don't even understand yoruba language (the younger generation) except those of us who have lived in Yoruba land. If you noticed, the Yorubas tried to rewrite our history (Ososo) but it failed because we already have our history handed to us by our fore fathers. PS: I'm from the Okogbe family in Udurhevbo. Cc ezanafe. |
ThatKING:I thought I said we have a small percentage of Yorubas. Funny thing is, even those in Ayeigunle claimed they are not Yoruba. My best friend is from Ayeigunle, we went to the same unis and he couldn't even speak yoruba. I have to defend him always when they start "yabbing' him cos his surname is Yoruba and yet he couldn't speak or even understand the language. Mind you he grew up in his village where they speak Okpameri and he can speak fluently his dialect. |
oluwaahmed:You are still misunderstanding this Bro. Diamond isn't a basic necessity. Meat is. The masses don't wear diamond. But everybody eats. Diamond has other alternative both in class and kind. Beef don't have other alternative in price and availability. It's not a competition sir. I'm stating what I observed. |
vonxe:You are the one using emotion here now sir. I just asked a neighbour who is from Ekiti (igbara-odo) and she confirmed they don't speak the same language even though they have some similarities. She even said there are slight variations in the way Ekiti people speak I.e, Ikole and Ikere have slight variation in language. Anyway, I don't understand either language. I'm from Akoko-Edo, I speak fluent yoruba. In facts, I speak and write yoruba. I was already reading yoruba since I was in primary 3. But when people from Ekiti speaks, or Ilara or Akure, I usually don't understand them. Still they are same Yorubas. Secondly, I have sincerely not met a person from Akoko-Edo claiming to be yoruba. My family (nuclear) speaks yoruba. When we are at home and we don't want people to hear us, we speak yoruba. Even in Ibillo where we used to stay, some that don't know us well will cal us ibo yoruba (yoruba people). |
whirlwind7:Don't think that way my brother. Before taking any action as a man, ask your self the effect of your action on the people around you. Instead of boycotting cow because we want to punish Fulanis, how about we hold our leaders responsible. We all pay tax. We then put them there to use our money to provide security for us. The logic that because some Fulanis are killing our brothers, then we should boycott their meat is similar to arguing that Ijaws have been blowing up pipes, so let's stop using their motor spirit (petrol). It might be convenient to you. (Just maybe your business doest involve transportation). But it may not be possible for others. Just as Petrol is a basic necessity, meat is a basic need and the cheapest source still remain beef. I'm not making excuses, I telling how not feasible it is to actually boycott beef. By the way, it's also not a solution to the problem. |
vonxe:Akure and ekiti have different language please. I currently live in Akure and that's where I schooled. I grew up in Kwara (Jebba) and so I speak and understand the general Yoruba perfectly. But I can't pick a thing when ekiti people speak. Same about Akure. You said the construction is the difference? Then Ondo shouldn't be yorubas cos they speak something very different. Same as the rest (ekiti) inclusive. Let me cite some example with a few Ondo I could manage. Giyan= so fun Oforfi= Owipe, Onipe. Kawa=Maabo Egin=Egbon Shoon/sun= Yagbe Mu ko= fun (give him/her) Etc Please be sincere when you want to lay out your point. We aren't in competition for who wins or not As for your last question, no person from Akoko Edo claims to be Yoruba. I have never met such person before. |
I've been waiting for this. This is actually lit. Beautiful video and beautiful song. Liking Peter does not mean you should hate Paul. Vice versa. |
vonxe:When I was in school, I stayed at Ilara mokin. My course mate who lives in the same compound with me does not understand a word from the dialect of the people there. You will be lying if you say as a yoruba man, you understand the language of Isua, Ondo, Akure, Ekiti, Ijesha, Ikare to mention but a few. What you don't know is that the Akoko as used is simply to name the local government. It's not used in the same context as the Yoruba's Akokos which describes their entity. There is a proposition to divide the local government into 3 as I speak with you and none will carry the Akoko tag again. These proposed lga (okhunugbe, okpameri and Etuno) defined the people in this area. When the local government was to be created, the option for the name Akoko-Edo came as a result of searching for a unified name for these 3 groups. The proximity to the Akoko people prompted the use. Akoko you see was born out of a need to represent a local government area. Modified: what I'm saying is this, a person from oka, Ikare, arigidi will tell you I'm an Akoko man. It's not the same here. We only use the Akoko when we need to describe the local government we stem from in edo state. No Edo person will tell you I'm an Akoko man. I will say I'm an Ososo, the person from Ibillo, Ojah, Imoga, Epkesa will tell you they are okpameri, the person from Ekpedo, uneme-nekhua, uneme-osu etc will tell you they are uneme. We have the Etunos, we have the umas. But we don't have the akokos. This is not the same with the akokos from ondo state. I don't know if you understand my point. Modified: lingua franca for now is largely pidgin. Majority of the people in Akoko edo don't even understand yoruba. Although our fathers do as they were taught in schools in their days. When Yorubas come to our area to write waec those days, the way they speak amazes the people. You know the feelings when you hear a group of people speak a language you do not understand. You will see boys mimicking them (trying to make jest of the language). |
The question is, what other kind of meat does the common man depends on. Cow meat is still the cheapest and the easiest meat to get around. Boycotting it will have economic effect on the fulani bourgeois and their entire clan. But it will also cause meat scarcity. Other available options will be in high demand such that it will be out of reach for the common man. More so, it will create a kind of "us against them" mentality up north and if they decide to boycott our own products, the country will be in avoidable economic crisis which we won't all like. |

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